Madoka
08-13-2006, 02:23 AM
Have you ever thought that the intro, where it showed how Rinoa turned a petal into a feather and was waiting for Squall and how she hugged him at the end with black feathers all around, was just showing all the things that had happened in the past before Rinoa turned into Ultimecia in the future??

Black Paladin
08-13-2006, 02:24 AM
What?

Madoka
08-13-2006, 02:27 AM
If you have heard about the Rinoa=Ultimecia theory, then you should know.

Black Paladin
08-13-2006, 02:32 AM
Send me a link and I'll read up on it. Or was this based on the Ultimecia thing in the game b/c i dont think that rinoa IS Ultimecia. Ultimecia is a receptor of Rinoas pwers mayhap.

jewess crabcake
08-13-2006, 02:37 AM
This theory has been discussed to death why is it being brought back go look in the past files of the FFVIII forum.

Yui
08-13-2006, 05:04 PM
I don't believe the Rinoa=Ultimecia theory at all. :(

Swedish Fish
08-13-2006, 05:12 PM
Rinoa=Ultimecia = Shit theory.

Black Paladin
08-13-2006, 07:42 PM
I thought it amounted to as much.

Silfurabbit
08-14-2006, 12:31 AM
What?

RD
08-26-2006, 02:27 PM
oh yeah, I remember that theory. mabe sqaure could tell us the truth.

Ultimadream
08-27-2006, 12:27 PM
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Psycho_Cyan
08-27-2006, 05:10 PM
It's been proven conclusively several times on FFS that R=U is pure garbage. When I say garbage, I'm talking a rancid pile of filth that should be forgotten as soon as possible.

IDX
08-27-2006, 10:01 PM
Even still, it's interesting to think about since they have so many things in common. Like their atires for example.

Calgar
08-27-2006, 10:07 PM
Rinoa=Ultimecia = Shit theory.

jewess crabcake
08-27-2006, 10:45 PM
I like to think the Rinoa=Ultimecia is true i think it maks the ending more stronger

*******************************SPOLIER (possibly)


Beucase the theory Rinoa is ultimecia and you see at the end ultimecia passed the sorccerress thing to edea,who passes it to rinoa,ultimecia has gone insane,i like to thing because its rinoa in the future and has been left alone for ages seem as shes the ultimecia,she outlives everything,so she outlives squall and her friends so i think after they've gone she has a breakdown from being alone,might mnot have explained that to welll but thats what i think

If that were true the world would be in an eternal cycle, because no matter what you did R would still become U and R would kill U for infinite. That theory destroys itself.

Black Paladin
08-27-2006, 10:47 PM
Nice way to destroy that theory, GJ LR

Psycho_Cyan
08-27-2006, 11:11 PM
Even still, it's interesting to think about since they have so many things in common. Like their atires for example.

I personally have a hard time being interesting in a crap theory that's been thoroughly debunked.

RD
08-28-2006, 10:46 AM
I think the main reasoning for the Rinoa = Ultimecia theory is that he gf was named arfter Squalls ring... what's that about?

jewess crabcake
08-28-2006, 05:47 PM
Yes that is where most of the confusion comes from, but my guess was the ring was made to look like Griever.

RD
08-28-2006, 05:57 PM
yeah, you're probably right. It would be nice if Square could tell us if they were trying to make us think it's Rinoa... it hurts my head thinking about it... so why not a word?

Psycho_Cyan
08-28-2006, 06:09 PM
yeah, you're probably right. It would be nice if Square could tell us if they were trying to make us think it's Rinoa... it hurts my head thinking about it... so why not a word?

Um. It's been pretty well proven that Rinoa doesn't become Ultimecia. If that concept gives you a headache, then I fear for you.

RD
08-28-2006, 06:33 PM
proven by who?

you?

LadyHinata
08-28-2006, 06:37 PM
am i worng is the only time she gos like that is because shes looking for someone in the end the same thing happened she grabed her rings and a fether appered infront of squall and he toke and the went into the flower place thingy...

Psycho_Cyan
08-28-2006, 06:44 PM
proven by who?

you?

Search the forums, Einstein. :rolleyes: I know Odin, for one, has. I'm sure there's been a couple others before him, as well.

IDX
08-28-2006, 07:40 PM
I'd prefer it to be from an official source of whether or not Rinoa does turn into Ultimecia because rumors are started by people. Then there are ppl who have strong points that prove Rinoa isn't Ultimecia and vice versa.

RD
08-28-2006, 07:43 PM
I'd prefer it to be from an official source of whether or not Rinoa does turn into Ultimecia because rumors are started by people. Then there are ppl who have strong points that prove Rinoa isn't Ultimecia and vice versa.

QFT

Psycho_Cyan
08-28-2006, 08:25 PM
You do realize that you'll never get what you're asking for, right? It took Squeenix about a decade and a movie sequel to FFVII to get an Ultimania guide released. If logic based in fact doesn't satisfy you over rumor, then go revive Aeris.

IDX
08-28-2006, 10:36 PM
I did as a matter of fact.

And I'm not saying that she is or isn't Ultimecia, I'm just agreeing that there are lots of similarities between them that might make it possible, but there are so many other things that make it impossible. I'm just saying that I would prefer to hear from an official source that she is or isn't. People are sticking to their opinions of whether she is or isn't, I'm just neutral about it.

Psycho_Cyan
08-28-2006, 11:48 PM
I did as a matter of fact.

Gameshark ftw, eh?


And I'm not saying that she is or isn't Ultimecia, I'm just agreeing that there are lots of similarities between them that might make it possible, but there are so many other things that make it impossible.

If there are so many other things that make it impossible, then saying it might be possible is disingenuous at best.

IDX
08-29-2006, 12:22 AM
I guess it is possible, but I don't know if it is true or not like some people think. I honestly don't know, that's why I think it's and intersting theory. We don't really know all of Ultimecia's intentions and if they have something to do with Rinoa. But we make guesses as to why she hates SeeDs and why she's stationed at the orphanage. Some people think it means something, others say it means nothing. And Griever, no one knows if he was a real GF that Ultimecia has or if it was a monster created by Ultimecia because that was the name of the lion on Squall's ring. I don't know honestly, but all we can do is guess.

Oh, and I did use gameshark :D.

Psycho_Cyan
08-29-2006, 12:45 AM
I don't know honestly, but all we can do is guess.

While the theory is rather interesting at first, the fact that in-game facts and logic are against it make it implausable.

RD
08-29-2006, 09:30 AM
but did Square want us to think Rinoa is Ultemecia,... mabe for something to get us thinking and figure it out for ourselves?

Psycho_Cyan
08-29-2006, 04:39 PM
I can't know Square's intentions, but why would we be suppoed to think R=U if in-game facts tel us otherwise?