Yes, this news is a couple days old, but no one has commented on it yet, so I'm posting about it.

For anyone who doesn't know, Peter Cullen was the original voice of Optimus way back in the Generation 1 era. He will be returning to the role in the new movie due out next summer. This has actually sparked a minute bit of hope in me that the movie may not suck completely. I realize that hope will likely be crushed though.

I began to lose interest in the Transformers series after the original all those years ago. So I must say, this is pretty cool news.

If you guys want I can post all the news about this here. I follow it pretty closely.

It's good news indeed. Hopefully it'll be enough to keep a few more people from bitching about the inevitable...the inevitable being that not every single detail will be the same as the old cartoon.

This is the best thing to happen since the original movie. Everything else that followed sucked.

Apperently Welker has auditioned for Megs too. That's just a rumour however.

yey

This is the best thing to happen since the original movie. Everything else that followed sucked.

Uh, I don't think you've followed things very closely if you really think that. I don't like what they've done with the shows since Energon, but the toys themselves have gotten a million times better, and the Beast Wars TV series probably had the best writing in a kids show ever. Overall things have improved greatly since the movie.

And I guess I'm the only one who doesn't care very much if Peter Cullen voices Optimus. It's neat, I suppose, but I wouldn't give a shit if he had a different voice. What I give a shit about is if the movie sucks, which unfortunately this has no bearing on. I just have no faith in anything directed by Michael Bay, and the whole Mars thing is a turnoff as well. I'll still probably go see it though.

Uh, I don't think you've followed things very closely if you really think that. I don't like what they've done with the shows since Energon, but the toys themselves have gotten a million times better, and the Beast Wars TV series probably had the best writing in a kids show ever. Overall things have improved greatly since the movie.

YHO - I respect that.


And I guess I'm the only one who doesn't care very much if Peter Cullen voices Optimus. It's neat, I suppose, but I wouldn't give a shit if he had a different voice.

That's like saying, (and I'm not a star wars fan, but would still care), it wouldn't matter if someone else did the voice of Darth Vader in Episode III. Oh yes, It does matter who does the voice of Prime.

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That's like saying, (and I'm not a star wars fan, but would still care), it wouldn't matter if someone else did the voice of Darth Vader in Episode III. Oh yes, It does matter who does the voice of Prime.

I honestly don't think it matters. It's nice that they have Cullen for it, but Gary Chalk has done a great job as the voice of Prime/Primal in BW, Energon etc. I wouldn't be fussed about who did the voice, providing they did a good job.

I REFUSE TO GO SEE THIS MOVIE SINCE HE'S NOT GOING TO BE A RED AND BLUE SEMI!

You mean this:

Optimus Prime, more like Pimp my Prime. ()

Although it is lovely to hear that he will be Optimus Prime i can`t say the film sounds like it`ll be too good.

Bernie Mac anyone?, Michael Bay?. :(

And I guess I'm the only one who doesn't care very much if Peter Cullen voices Optimus.

Not at all, there's a whole legion of people complaining about him being cast already.

Although it is lovely to hear that he will be Optimus Prime i can`t say the film sounds like it`ll be too good.

Bernie Mac anyone?, Michael Bay?. :(

What do you have against Bernie Mac? Hollywood always ruined some of the best flicks with out of place humor, but Bernie should know what he's doing. Isn't his character actualy a human? Spike somehow would seem lame as an actual live actor. Any live actor would seem kinda lame to me for some reason. The Transformers world was their own. Humans would get stomped on by accident even by the good guys. I always liked Jazz as he was a good character and him having a black voice actor (scatman) in gen. 1 gave him mass appeal. I bet jazz will sound like a Californian surfer in this one though.




I don't like what they've done with the shows since Energon, but the toys themselves have gotten a million times better, and the Beast Wars TV series probably had the best writing in a kids show ever. Overall things have improved greatly since the movie.

I can't believe what your saying. Sure they have better and tried techniques of making plastic toys "transform" these days but you can't beat the toys of the 80's. They were a foot tall and made mostly of metal, + they had more serious paint jobs without pastels n' neon pink guns n' crap. Things went down a long ditch after the movie. Beast machines? What the hell..

That's like saying, (and I'm not a star wars fan, but would still care), it wouldn't matter if someone else did the voice of Darth Vader in Episode III. Oh yes, It does matter who does the voice of Prime.

No, it isn't like saying that at all, actually, since Episode III is supposed to be a part of a larger continuity. If someone else did Darth Vader's voice, then Vader would inexplicably have a different voice in movies where he's supposed to be the same character. Since the Transformers movie isn't going to be part of the original continuity, it doesn't matter... just like how it doesn't matter that they got other voice actors for Optimus in other TF series.


I can't believe what your saying. Sure they have better and tried techniques of making plastic toys "transform" these days but you can't beat the toys of the 80's. They were a foot tall and made mostly of metal, + they had more serious paint jobs without pastels n' neon pink guns n' crap. Things went down a long ditch after the movie. Beast machines? What the hell..

Why do you put transform in quotes like that? I think it's pretty funny, since the toys they make now have much more complex and involved transformations.

They were not "a foot tall," except one or two. Most of them were more like half a foot. Many of the largest sized TFs made today dwarf the largest G1 figures. There were plenty of pastels and neon type crap in the paint jobs of G1 characters, you just don't remember them because you're remembering your favorite ones; and the figures today have a very wide variety of paint jobs, many of which are "serious" as you put it. I agree Beast Machines was shit, but that was one short-lived line out of many excellent ones that have come out since, and the Beast Wars line was fantastic—its figures were extremely detailed and articulated. They had way more play value and longevity than the originals, which usually had something like four or five points of articulation if you were lucky.

Don't get me wrong, I like G1 a lot for the nostalgia involved, and of course I still love the TV show, but every aspect of that generation has been far surpassed by the newer lines.

No, it isn't like saying that at all, actually, since Episode III is supposed to be a part of a larger continuity. If someone else did Darth Vader's voice, then Vader would inexplicably have a different voice in movies where he's supposed to be the same character. Since the Transformers movie isn't going to be part of the original continuity, it doesn't matter... just like how it doesn't matter that they got other voice actors for Optimus in other TF series.

Yes, it is like saying that. The point of this movie is to be based on and inspired by the original transformers. It's hardly a "spin-off" of any kind.

I pretty much agree with you on all counts, TK.

To be perfectly honest, the only reason I find the idea of having the original voice actors back appealing is because I'm regarding this movie as a potential rape of my childhood along the lines of those awful Scooby Doo movies, possibly even worse since I only marginally liked Scooby Doo back then, but loved Transformers.

Dear lord, I hope you are wrong Prak. Defiling nostalgia is a horrendous crime. :(

Exactly.

Hey, as much as I have often disagreed with Prak, He's a man of principal. you gotta respect that. My only problem with this film is it'll be directed by Michael Bay. That's why I'm not as optimistic.

Yes, it is like saying that. The point of this movie is to be based on and inspired by the original transformers. It's hardly a "spin-off" of any kind.

Uh... yes, you are correct. It is based on and inspired by the original Transformers. I fail to see any reason why that means they have to have the same voice actors. It can quite easily be based on and inspired by the original and have all different voice actors.

All of the modern TF series from Armada onwards have all been "based on and inspired by" the original series and none of them have had Peter Cullen voicing Optimus.

I'd have been just as happy with Gary Chalk doing the voice of Prime tbh, I think he's done a very good job in BW, Armada etc. Ditto David Kaye as Megs. Like I said, I wouldn't really care who did the voices, if they did a good job with them.

Here's the ultra corny way they announced this. IT'S STILL AWESOME THOUGH.

http://www.blackfilm.com/20060721/features/transformers_cc.shtml

I disagree about Gary Chalk. Cullen's interpretation has much more character and presence, but whatever. I'm not gonna be a cunt about it, it's just opinon and that's fine by me.

I agree with TK about the newer toys being better than the old in various ways, but it isn't that big of a deal considering for their time, the old toys were actually pretty good. Remember a lot of the waves in the first two years (84-85) had toys that were actually from years prior, and the lack of articulation was a standard in almost all action figure lines bar a select few. The garrish colors of some of the later toys is not unique to G1 either, as G2 and current lines like TF Universe and Armada have also had their share of awful color schemes.

I choose to look at it this way - every incarnation of TF toys have had their highs and lows, and none of them are necessarily that heavily above and beyond the rest when weighing all of the pros and cons.

I disagree about Gary Chalk. Cullen's interpretation has much more character and presence, but whatever. I'm not gonna be a cunt about it, it's just opinon and that's fine by me.


No doubt Cullen is better then Chalk, I was just saying Chalk has done a good job as Prime/Primal too, and would have done a good job if called upon.

What do you have against Bernie Mac? Hollywood always ruined some of the best flicks with out of place humor, but Bernie should know what he's doing. Isn't his character actualy a human? Spike somehow would seem lame as an actual live actor. Any live actor would seem kinda lame to me for some reason. The Transformers world was their own. Humans would get stomped on by accident even by the good guys. I always liked Jazz as he was a good character and him having a black voice actor (scatman) in gen. 1 gave him mass appeal. I bet jazz will sound like a Californian surfer in this one though.

Bernie Mac fucking sucks as an actor. To Clarify: Name one role he has played where he acted any different than he does all the time in interviews and everywhere else. He's not acting, that's just him.

Bumped with pics of Ironhide. How authentic is anyone's guess(not very authentic at all i'm saying).

http://



"Very high probability that this is Ironhide in the transformers film. Sadly no shots of the front, but i did get a good look at it. It appeared to be a heavily modified Sierra 3500 GMC. The front was more altered than the back. Vents on each side of a very angular hood and large, square headlamps made up the front of the vehicle. The rear has large fender and smoke stacks. After researching the transformers movie site, this could be ironhide. He use to be a red, nissan van back in the day. Still pretty cool. The autobot logo only appeared on the tailgate and was embossed into the metal."

The bottom half of the pic looks cgi and seeing that this is supposedly a secret picture on location it makes it even more less believable. :(

Still, pretty interesting.

I should've saved those pictures of robot mode Bumblebee for you guys eh?

I seen them. Chevy Camaro.

Not sure if this shit is real yet, but just in case, I'll share.

Those of you hoping for an exact G1 re-creation get ready to cringe:

Optimus vehicle mode


Supposed Ratchet vehicle mode


Possible Optimus feets part, or possibly just a stand in.

Oh god. :(

Anal rapage of my childhood is well under way.

I'm not sure about the Ratchet, but the flamed Optimus is pretty much confirmed already. There's already been other pictures and I believe Michael Bay already said it was the real deal.

There was a video where some show interviewed Bay and it showed some robot animatics really quickly but it's not enough really to see anything so I won't bother posting that.

The flaming Optimus is pretty awful. The others look fine, but since there are no robot modes yet who knows I guess.

Ratchet I can deal with, but Optimus looks awful. It's like G2 Optimus has been spliced with Rodimus.

I don't mind the long nosed cab for Optimus one bit, but the flames are definitely too much.

Oh well though. Michael Bay has been given total control over the designs chosen, so no one should really expect any better. It's frigging Michael Bay :(

Edit-

More Flamin' Optimus love for the kiddies. Picture is a month or so old.

If he were smart, he'd try and push it a bit. Make some semi-horrible designs, but not to the point where people won't see the movie. Then treat us all to the classic designs in the actual theaters as a surprise.

But it's Michael Bay and Optimus has flames. :(

RM I'm wondering myself if these will really make the movie because Bay has been super anal about not wanting shit to leak early. Given that things are coming out easily (inevitably) it makes me wonder about the chance of any changes just for the sake of maintaining surprise, but I doubt if that chance is there that it's a very good one.

Owzars! this is The MANTIS!!
I honestly neva new there was any transformers movies...

Owzars! this is The MANTIS!!
I honestly neva new there was any transformers movies...

What?

What?
what do you mean what?
if you're asking about the strange words I used then they're just sum really stupid words that i made up in primary school in which i thought the words were really cool.

More Flamin' Optimus love for the kiddies. Picture is a month or so old.




Hahaha, that's so excellent.

Oh ktulu <3

I quite like that actually, except for the flames.

You Transformers fans are really anal about Transformers.

You Transformers fans are really anal about Transformers.

Fanboys in general are very anal and close minded, no matter what the property is. Also, for most that have problems when shit gets changed, it's the whole "oh teh noes they are fucking with what I love." Some people don't want to accept any changes when they like things how they already were...not too different from when music fans bitch when their favorite bands/artists try something different, screaming about "selling out" and such.

You Transformers fans are really anal about Transformers.

x 2 lol

Fanboys in general are very anal and close minded, no matter what the property is. Also, for most that have problems when shit gets changed, it's the whole "oh teh noes they are fucking with what I love." Some people don't want to accept any changes when they like things how they already were...not too different from when music fans bitch when their favorite bands/artists try something different, screaming about "selling out" and such.

I don't mind when an artist changes his/her sound. If they change it for the better, then hey cool. If it sucks, I don't discredit the artist, just the work.

um, who's michael bay? i know he's directing Tranformers, but what else has he directed?

um, who's michael bay? i know he's directing Tranformers, but what else has he directed?

Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys, Bad Boys II, The Rock, Armageddon, The Island

The Island was good. Michael Bay did an old story some good. It was based off of the movie "logan's run." ()

Most people say that The Island was pretty bad. Hell, the only good movie Bay ever directed was The Rock.

I'm a big fan of the blustery action flicks, so I must admit Bay's films are half decent to someone such as myself.

Though Pearl Harbour was fucking terrible.

Peal Harbor was pretty bad. I did like The Island though.

Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys, Bad Boys II, The Rock, Armageddon, The Island

The Rock is the only decent film there.

Doesn't bode well.

Also,

From : <[email protected]>
Sent : Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:02 PM
To : xyz
Subject : Transformers Announcement - Giant Freakin' Robots Are Coming


"Giant Freakin' Robots are coming.

It's here. Finally -- the word we've been waiting for. The announcement of ALL
the TRANSFORMERS appearing in the film.

On Friday, 8/18, at 11am, the screenwriters&#194; - Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman - will
announce the character names via a live webchat on Yahoo.

For fans, this is our chance to interact with the screenwriters, ask them
questions via text and hear their answers live!

A live chat. With the writers. Of TRANSFORMERS. 'Nuff said.

On Friday morning, go to www.TransformersMovie.com for the link to Webcast!

See you online, everyone. Roll out."

Should be intresting.

fixed.

cast...

Shia LaBeouf - Spike Witwicky
Travis Van Winkle - Trent
Josh Duhamel - Lennox
Jon Voight - Keller
Megan Fox - Mikaela
Bernie Mac - Bobby Bolivia
John Turturro - Simmons
John Robinson - Mlles
Rachael Taylor - Maggie Marconi
Amaury Nolasco
Tyrese Gibson
Kevin Dunn
Ronnie Sperling
Charlie Bodin

Access Hollywood has posted a video (http://video.accesshollywood.com/v/?linkId=25436) of a couple scenes being filmed. Kind of interesting, but it doesn't show much.

Michael Bay, lol. ^_-

Update: The Autobots and Decepticons who will be in the Movie have been announced! here they are:

Autobots
Optimus Prime--The Valiant Leader
Bumblebee--Underdog/Scout First Transformer on Earth
Jazz--Stylish guy, takes pieces of foreign cultures he likes the best and adapts to them
Ratchet--Medic/Science Officer
Ironhide--Autobot Muscle/Warrior, Optimus' oldest friend, Roughneck

Decepticons
Megatron--His evil will be more in depth, very arrogant, hates humans
Starscream--Backstabber, still questions what would happen if he were to lead
Brawl--New Character Mad all the time. Like Ironhide First non flying Decepticon
Bonecrusher--New Character Closest thing to a Constructicon--Hates all other Decepticons other than Megatron
Barricade (Cop Car)--New Character The Decepticon Hunter/Tracker
Frenzy--Originally going to be Soundwave, but changed (Small spy)
Blackout--Takes out Earth Defense Systems with an EMP. Also in charge of transporting Decepticons, has a large alt. mode.
Scorponok-- References were made to Beast Wars Dinobot, his alt mode will appear totally logical one you see the movie.


Contest!!!!!! There will be a contest for fans to submit a line that you feel that Peter Cullen must say as Optimus Prime!

Discuss.

HE SHOULD SAY:::::

I AM DA MAN

The writers also did a Q&A session after announcing the movie roster:

Were you fans of the franchise way back when?

Yes, grew up with G1, what did we remember. Remember the cartoon.

What’s the transformer to human screen time ratio?

Reading a script can be misleading. Dialogue can vary in length.

Why is the Camaro being used for Bumblebee?

Clothes don’t make the man, the characters are still the same. Bumblebee is still the same character, just up dated Alt. mode.

No cheating, no mass shifting. Sitting and staring at real vehicles. Amazing opportunity to do something on par with Jurassic Park.

Story is designed to be understandable to the new movie goers. References will be made that fans will understand though.

The Movie is massive,

Will Megatron insult Starscream at least once in the movie?

Definitely yes.

Why so few Autobots compared to Decepticons?

Put Autobots at a disadvantage to make it harder for them. More firepower on the cons vs. the autobots. Use friendship to win.

How close has Hasbro been involved?

Very close. They went to the Hasbro HQ to look through the design catalog. What did the world mean to them and which characters that they loved the most?

Who would win in a street fight?
Watch the movie

Why not Shockwave?

Had to chose the right characters that each have a designated purpose.

I have mixed feelings. Bumble Bee not being a VW kinda bothers me. That looks like a whole new camero that chevy may be coming out with - great way to promo it. Prime being that type of truck with flames kind of bothers me.

Yes, this news is a couple days old, but no one has commented on it yet, so I'm posting about it.

For anyone who doesn't know, Peter Cullen was the original voice of Optimus way back in the Generation 1 era. He will be returning to the role in the new movie due out next summer. This has actually sparked a minute bit of hope in me that the movie may not suck completely. I realize that hope will likely be crushed though.
Cool...ya ..peter deserves it.

What the FUCK is that.

What the FUCK is that.

HAHA T.K. ....I was wondering the same thing :)

Bumblebee

What?!

What the FUCK is that.

Sorry for not putting Spoiler warnings up, or just pasting the urls of the pictures, I guess I should've. I'll do that from now on.

Anyway, spoliers:


Optimus CGI render


Blackout CGI render


Blackout toy proto robot mode


Starscream toy proto robot mode


Scorponok CG render beast mode

HE SHOULD SAY:::::

I AM DA MANCome one Garamond...everyone knows you are the man.....well the baseball man for sure.

You really don't need to answer EVERY single post you know. It gets tiresome very quickly.

Shia LeBouf??? he still has a career?

Ok I guess I'll start the opinions here.

About the designs, I expected them to be different and I don't mind that they aren't conventional Transformer designs. Of what we've seen, Optimus is definitely the best, though I don't like his feet design. That's where it really has the problems of the other guys. In the attempt to get the designs as alien as possible, they went too tech-crazy and detailed so instead of sleek, stylish robots you get these generic henchmen looking bots you might find in any random anime or video game. The Decepticons seem to suffer from this the worst so far, particularly Starscream. That's where they went wrong imo. The designs aren't bad, but they aren't iconic and memorable enough to represent these particular characters well. I don't mind that they're different, but I do dislike how generic they seem.

question!

why do the transformers have like, "vehical modes" i never say the original show (just beast wars) so i don't really know.

Because they are transformers. :rolleyes:

They don't all have vehicle modes, in the orignal series:

Megatron-Gun
Starscream-F14
Soundwave-Tape Recorder
Springer-Helicopter

Amongst others.

They transform for disguise. That was the original basic premise: "Robots in disguise."

Hi-res Blackout picture:

i know they transform for disguise. but i'm asking why they chose the cars. was it liek beast wars where they did a scan and just picked the things they scanned?

Optimus Prime looks like a giant robot drag queen :-(

Beast Wars > All.

And also:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xLkYCs27ZgY

Beast Wars > All
x2!!!!!

question!

why do the transformers have like, "vehical modes" i never say the original show (just beast wars) so i don't really know.



i know they transform for disguise. but i'm asking why they chose the cars. was it liek beast wars where they did a scan and just picked the things they scanned?


When the autobots crash landed on Earth it was the time of the dinosaurs. Their ship was imbeded in a Volcano. There the receiver bots would lay for 1,000's of years. By the time they came to from the lack of energon and severe damage from battling their mortal enemies, the ships computer had gone out and scanned the near-by area. What the computer found was massive road ways with moving vehicles and helicopters in the sky, stuff like that. It was the time of men, though the computer perhaps didn't see any. It went back to the craft and reconfigured the battered machines until they could fit in as "robots in disguise."

The same thing prdy much happened to the deceiver bots (Decepticons) except where they had landed there was a military air port where there were tanks and jets.

Yep, they basically scanned whatever was around them. Eventually the writing and such ruined the need for the "robots in disguise" thing unfortunately, but at first the series adhered to it a bit.

I always figured their not needing to be in disguise didn't really matter. Their vehicle modes also provide them with transportation.

BW had an interesting plot point with it where when they first crash-landed they had to stay in beast mode to avoid energon buildup, but I think the writers realized they were crippling themselves with that a little bit so they removed it eventually. I think throughout that series, they were trying to find ways to make the beast modes more advantageous. They also began the series by implying that having a "beast mode" was a novelty to them, but sort of shot themselves in the foot by making it conflict with the "Maximals" existing as a separate group from the Autobots. I think they sort of chose to ignore that aspect of the plot later on, writing in statements that implied Autobots still existed, making newly created characters unsurprised at having a beast mode, showing the Tripredacus council looking like they had beast mode-ready designs.

Ultimately, though, the best answer is, "it's part of what they are." They just happen to be living things with metal bodies, and those metal bodies happen to be able to change shape. They make use of it in any way it can be used.


And as for the character designs in these screenshots, I hate them. Not because they look different, but because I think they really look like ass. I don't like that sort of design—it's too busy. Too many little nooks and crannies on them, and they look too "alien." The designs of TF robot modes are supposed to be sleek and badass and mecha-looking. These just look like something out of an American sci-fi movie... which I guess is exactly what this is going to be. =/

That's pretty much exactly what I meant TK, they're really generic, and like I said, in focusing on getting them ultra detailed and alienlike, they lost any possibility for a sleek/stylish look, only further adding to the genericism.

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I didn't think it was worth a new topic, but it's pretty ridiculous. Did you Transformer people know about this?

And as for the character designs in these screenshots, I hate them. Not because they look different, but because I think they really look like ass. I don't like that sort of design�it's too busy. Too many little nooks and crannies on them, and they look too "alien." The designs of TF robot modes are supposed to be sleek and badass and mecha-looking. These just look like something out of an American sci-fi movie... which I guess is exactly what this is going to be. =/

And as for the character designs in these screenshots, I hate them. Not because they look different, but because I think they really look like ass. I don't like that sort of design�it's too busy. Too many little nooks and crannies on them, and they look too "alien." The designs of TF robot modes are supposed to be sleek and badass and mecha-looking.
I agree.

And as for the character designs in these screenshots, I hate them. Not because they look different, but because I think they really look like ass. I don't like that sort of design�it's too busy. Too many little nooks and crannies on them, and they look too "alien." The designs of TF robot modes are supposed to be sleek and badass and mecha-looking. These just look like something out of an American sci-fi movie... which I guess is exactly what this is going to be. =/

I'll have a ride on this bandwagon.

I'll have a ride on this bandwagon.

I call shot-gun.

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I didn't think it was worth a new topic, but it's pretty ridiculous. Did you Transformer people know about this?

Yep. It's pretty creepy. Lots of sexual overtones. You should see this:

Oh dear me......:(

WTF?

O.O

Didn't see that one coming;;;

HAHAHA. That is incredible.

Rezo, you should see if they are hiring artists.

Do they have a bot that transforms into a tentacle I wonder?

I was quite pleased when I saw the first trailer. At first, my response was "oh noes! another mars movie!" and then i was all: "yes! robots in disguise!" i was also a little disappointed when the rover didn't transform into a heineken booth.

i was also a little disappointed when the rover didn't transform into a heineken booth.

You and me both. :(

Megatron...

Decent design I guess, but if you showed it to me without that label on it, I would've never once though in a million years that it belonged to any franchise other than The Guyver or something. Absolutely 0 of Megatron's defining features are present.

Euhhh, that is truly horrible. They are meant to robots, not fucking aliens.

Bryan: they *are* aliens. Not a good argument.

Only thing wrong with the designs to me is that they are too generic to represent the characters.

'Robots in Disguise'

:(

Robot aliens.

To be perfectly honest, I think I can live with that design if they manage to nail the character in every other sense. Also, I think the alien jet alt mode is probably a decent idea in the long run since Megatron obviously wouldn't care about blending in. He'd be all about overwhelming power and making a big impression on the inferior humans. I'm not saying I prefer it over a classical look. Just that I'm not exactly opposed to it.

You make a good point Prak, but my initial reaction was like 'WHOA, WTF!!!!'. It'll take a bit(a lot more life) of getting used to.

Some detail photos of the design

I don't think i'll ever get used to the excessive detail, tbh. :(

Some of the fans have already fucking gone nuts over their hatred of the design. It's gone as far as bashing every person that's bought a post-80s Transformer toy and asking how we all like sucking Michael Bay's cock and all that.

I accepted from the start that this was going to be a different take on Transformers, not G1 exactly as everyone remembers it, and I simply don't see how anyone can be shocked when a different take is exactly what we're getting. Sure, I have my issues with the designs so far, but at least I'm not going into a fucking frenzy over it.

I'm with you, I don't like it, but i'll get used to it, and as Prak says, if they can capture the persona of Megs in every other sense, I can't see myself having a problem with how he looks.

I think the shock is because the differences are SO radical, I mean, look at that Megs and the other designs, they are NOTHING at like what we've seen in any carnation of TF, but lambasting post G1 fans is totally ridicolous, tbh. As much as I love G1, change is not always a bad thing.

Does Megatron really have all that much personality to capture? His personality is essentially take energy, conquer things, sneer about it when Starscream messes up. He's not all that unique among villains.

As I said before, I have no problem with things being different from G1. I don't think I'd even be particularly fond of G1 at all if not for the movie and the episodes that came after it. I simply find these designs to be aesthetically boring. Like Ktulu says, they are lacking in personality, and the personality of the individual characters is what is so fun about TFs. Or at least a large part of it, I think.

The other thing that bothers me about these designs is they don't look like they have anything to do with the vehicles they transform into. They look like they're going to do that horribly lame Beast Machines thing where to "transform" they just kind of light up and blurr into another form like a T1000. Fuck that. Watching them transform from vehicle to robot and seeing the similarities in both forms is a huge part of the experience.

To be honest, I wasn't expecting the robots to be given this kind of look at all, so this really is a disappointment to me. I wasn't expecting to be disappointed by this movie because I was already expecting it to be lackluster, but now not only am I inevitably going to think the story is bad, I'm going to be in pain every time I look at it, too. I don't know if I even want to bother watching it at all if this is what it looks like.

Supposedly the designs *have* to somehow actually transform. Hasbro has stated they had no intention of having designs they couldn't create completely accurate toys from. Looking at the designs though...damn. What kind of ungodly engineering skills do they have up their fucking sleeves? Your worry about morphing transformations is quite justified TK. Lots of other people are wondering the same thing. I don't see how it's gonna work without morphing either.

Oh well, maybe if the toy designs do have to change to compensate, perhaps it'll actually make them a bit sleeker in losing the crazy tech armor look.

Not that it really matters to anyone but I have now lost all interest in this "movie project". Megatron reminds me too much of "techno-tribal". I'm glad they want to give them an "alien/modern" look, but when I heard about this movie and how they want to base it on the original '80 version I was excited. I was hoping they would make a modern Transformers movie like they did Spider-man and X-men where "less is more". I'm gonna look at these robots while watching this movie, if I do watch it, thinking they tried to hard and now i'm distracted from paying any attention to what might be a cheesy story and may crack a small grin only when I hear Optimus say "Let's transform and roll out". I might also be distracted from having that Michael Bay song from Team America stuck in my head. Now I'm pissed off and need a Heineken.

Ok. So they are coming from Mars instead of Cybertron. I dealt with that. Optimus has flames. Alright, I can deal with that too after a while.


But the robot designs ruined it. If THAT is what Optimus is going to look like, I no longer want Peter Cullen to play the part. I don't want to hear the voice of the Prime I grew up on when I look at that...thing. It's starting to seem more and more that getting Cullen to do the voice was just to try and give all of the past fans some shred of hope that the movie would be credible.

I do not see how this movie will turn out well. Think I’ll just wait till this one comes out on video, so I can just press stop if I’m right.

To be perfectly honest, I think I can live with that design if they manage to nail the character in every other sense.
Me too. Although this is far from what I would of expected as a new Transformer design, I could live with it if they perfect pretty much everything else about the characters.

I don't see much reason to expect, or even hope that they will get much right about the characters, seeing as how so far they have gotten virtually nothing right whatsoever.

They would've been better off if they had gone with that fake Optimus I posted a few months back.

Ok. So they are coming from Mars instead of Cybertron.

As far as I know they're still from Cybertron. That teaser has nothing to do with the actual movie, says Bay himself.

Is there anything to suggest there will be a Galvatron in the film? I mean Megs becomes Galvatron in every incarnation of TF, stands to reason this film will be no different.

No. There'll be no Galvatron.


To be perfectly honest, I think I can live with that design if they manage to nail the character in every other sense. Also, I think the alien jet alt mode is probably a decent idea in the long run since Megatron obviously wouldn't care about blending in. He'd be all about overwhelming power and making a big impression on the inferior humans. I'm not saying I prefer it over a classical look. Just that I'm not exactly opposed to it.

You're probably right. They'll try to make Transformers seem like a sort of realistic scenario. They wanted to strip it down to the bare skeleton () of modern robot design. They do seem alien but lack in some constant familiar design that makes them even remotely distinguishable or even memorable. But when you think about the actual story of Transformers, they were created by a weird alien race named the Quintisons. So they would naturaly look alien-ish. The Autobots were originaly service and mining bots. They were chaperoned by police bots who were originaly made for conquest and off planet war games (decepticons).The evil police bots were much like their creators and were the prototypes of all other bots afterward.

9 million years B.C.

The Quintisons create Vector Sigma and the planet (about the size of Mars, but
much heavier as it is entirely metal and air) Cyberton. They start selling
military and personal robots to the dominant life-forms in the Milky Way
Galaxy. The biggest buyers happen to be humanoid in shape, so the robots are
made in bilateral humanoid form.

[the Decepticon on the planet with the merpeople's transformation pool is
obviously an early Quintison model.]

Vector Sigma, the ultimate computer, is the only way to control the Plasma
Energy Chamber and other parts of Cybertron. The Quintisons, mistrustful of
even their own creations, make the Plasma Energy Chamber give off too much
energy, so that all robots trying to use it will overload. The Quints, being
organic, have no such problem with the Plasma.

The robots develop true sentient 'souls' and rebel against their Quint masters,
who have gotten fat and lazy off selling robots and acting like kings. Thus
begins the First Cybertronian War. A scientist robot named A3 is one of the
leaders. A depository for the greatest scientists' and leaders minds' is
made, and called the Autobot Matrix of Leadership. As time progresses, this
Matrix is found to have strange powers of remote energy-matter transferrence.
Only certain Autobots who have both the proper mind and body shape can use the
Matrix. All Autobot leaders are renamed "Prime".

Vector Sigma is the only computer that can program new robot bodies. As asked
by the Cybertronians, each robot is given a personality at "birth".

Having outsted the Quints, the robots enjoy a brief time of peace and pure
research, known as the Golden Age of Cybertron.

The military robots name themselves Decepticons and try to rule Cyberton as
their own planetary kingdom. This is the Second Cybertronian War.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The robots learn how to reconstruct their bodies to transform, allowing them
to become vehicles, equipment, or weapons. They are powered by energon,
a condensing energy-matrix that is used to convert matter to energy and then
tapped for power. Thus any matter can be used for life, but the best
results come from electricity.

Over the next 5 million years different Decepticon and Autobots will rule
Cybertron, their home, with the losers fleeing the planet or "jailed" (their
AIs held in stasis), or outright killed. A3, now known as Alpha Trion, is a
scientist Autobot. When the current Decepticon leader Megatron damages
Autobots Orion Pax and two others, Alpha Trion recreates them into Optimus Prime,
Aleeta One, and Ironhide. He gives Optimus Prime the Autobot Matrix of
Leadership, giving new life to the Autobot cause against the Decepticons.
Thus the Fourth Cybertonian War begins.

Cont..

Is there anything to suggest there will be a Galvatron in the film? I mean Megs becomes Galvatron in every incarnation of TF, stands to reason this film will be no different.

Dear God, I hope not!

Well seeing as how the movie is doing nothing the way any of the previous TF series have done it, I don't think there's much reason to expect a Galvatron.

I doubt that Galvatron would fit into the movie unless they tacked him on as some kind of "final boss battle" scenario or something.

Agreeing with that, thankfully. However, they may throw on it us, as a sort of nasty surprise. :(

Agreeing with that, thankfully. However, they may throw on it us, as a sort of nasty surprise. :(

How could that be? Galvatron was merely Megatron's spark in a new body created from Unicron. It would be impossible for him to make an appearance, since that happened well after the Decepticons beat the Autobots in the race back to Cybertron from Earth. This movie concentrates on their first comming to it.

How could that be? Galvatron was merely Megatron's spark in a new body created from Unicron. It would be impossible for him to make an appearance, since that happened well after the Decepticons beat the Autobots in the race back to Cybertron from Earth. This movie concentrates on their first comming to it.

Remember, who is making this film. NOTHING would surprise me tbh. Also, Galvatron has been formatted loads of diff ways:

RID: He wasn't even a Decepticon, LOL
Armada: Powered up when fighting Nemesis Prime, iirc
Energon: Powered up in a pool of super-Energon
Cyberton: Don't remember, it was after Megs got pwned by Metroplex anyway.

Remember, who is making this film. NOTHING would surprise me tbh. Also, Galvatron has been formatted loads of diff ways:

Nah. The movie is said to be based off of Gen 1. Besides, it would ruin the whole movie EVEN MORE.

They have a strange way of showing it's based on G1!

They have a strange way of showing it's based on G1!
Qft

Cyberton: Don't remember, it was after Megs got pwned by Metroplex anyway.
How did Galvatron come about again? I just remember him returning in that like ghost form thing.

How did Galvatron come about again? I just remember him returning in that like ghost form thing.

That was Starscream who became a Ghost-like conciousness (a real stretch).

After the great Earth battle and being beaten to shame by Optimus prime the treacherous star scream picked up Megatron's busted frame and jetted out to deep space by use of Astrotrain (who must've been super high on energon to accomplish the feat). After casting lots with the surviving Decepticons Starscream perhaps saw his last chance at leadership and jettisoned his former master's still functional systems out of astro train, to float in oblivion until his spark went out. Luckily, Unicron can detect complex signal patterns from far away in deep space where he rests. Deep space is absent of much planetary matter because of him so no planets magnetic waves interfered with the strong signals being echoed through the abyss by the battered decepticons. Megatron made a deal in exchange for services to the planet eaters and obtained a new body and troops to command.

Qft

How did Galvatron come about again? I just remember him returning in that like ghost form thing.


Are you talking about Cybertron?



Upon arrival, Megatron fought planet leader Metroplex, but, even combined with Nemesis Breaker Megatron remained unable to defeat his opponent, and was uncermoniously crushed into the ground. Following this defeat, Megatron entered a state of intense anger towards himself for losing so easily, refusing to believe that his own power was so inadequate. Sensing the Giant Planet Key and coming into direct contact with it, Megatron managed to acquire some of its power and took on a shadowed black form, proceeding to decimate most of the Autobot army with great ease. Once confronted by Optimus Prime, Megatron then declared that he was no more, and that he now had been reborn as Galvatron

um, who's unicron?

wow, i like marvel's version of unicron's origins better.

also, unicron seems very cheap and unfair.

and did they ever release beast wars on DVD? i'd so by that if they did.

"Unfair?" Uh, he is a giant planet-eating monster robot. I'm pretty sure that he is not supposed to be moderated by a referee.

And uh, Atom, it's nice of you to include the summaries and all, but you're kind of preaching to the choir. Anyone active in the discussion in this thread probably knows the storyline of the original movie.

Guys, I am going to suggest we turn this into the all-purpose Transformers thread. All this talking about the movie has got me depressed over its vast suckitude. So let's talk about some cool stuff. Like the Classics line that is coming out soon. November, right? That's gonna kick huge ass. Also, let's post pictures of our Transformers! I will take some tonight and post them.

Also, today I stopped by a Toys R Us and noticed they have a $10 Unicron figure out. I think it would be a hell of a lot cooler if he turned into a small-sized planet, but I still like the idea, so I bought it. Also noticed: A Cybertron redeco of Armada Supercon Optimus! I bought the Armada one to customize it into a Rodimus, and paid $15 for it on eBay. Oh snap! But I like this one better, I think, because no lame "planet key" gimmick and comes with the minicon that I can stick on his back to give him Rodimus wings.

EDIT:



and did they ever release beast wars on DVD? i'd so by that if they did.

Yes, the whole series is available. It's not too expensive either.

At least Prime isn't a fucking Lamborghini anymore (GoBots!).

Spike should have been crushed accidentaly by Grimlock a long time ago. In the movie he'll be portrayed by Shia LaBeouf. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_LaBeouf) He buys Bumblebee unintentionally as his first car.

Guys, I am going to suggest we turn this into the all-purpose Transformers thread.


Can we change the name of the thread?

Congrats on finding the new deluxe Unicron and the bendy Prime repaint. A lot of people haven't seen those yet and are looking like crazy.

Have any of you seen pictures of the Optimus vs. Megatron 2 pack coming out in classics? That version of Megs is a tank and the Optimus is even closer to his G1 look than the regular one.

As for Galvatron in the movie- SPOILER- supposedly Megatron doesn't even show until the final act, so if that is true, maybe not

haha, stuff like Megatron not being in most of the movie really shouldn't surprise me at this point.

So I guess so far the movie is "based on" the series in that it involves robots which turn from machines into robots and have some of the same names. Cool!

OK but seriously I have not seen this two pack you speak of, and it sounds intriguing, especially since Megatron is the only classics figure I've seen that I'm really not so into.

In retrospect, I'm really thinking that bendy Prime repaint was pretty damn cool. Now I want it, but also don't because already have it blah blah blah you know the drill.

Anyway, Unicron is cool.



It seems you can't put his claw weapons in his hands without them doing this, though:



So I like this approach instead:



Also, I have wanted to take a bendy Prime photo in this pose for a long time:



YOU DON'T MESS WITH THIS GUY.

I never liked transformers, not even a a child

So i won't be seeing it anyhowz ^^

I'm not a big fan of Transformers, but I saw the preview of the movie and I was sold.

Are you talking about Cybertron?
Yes.


Upon arrival, Megatron fought planet leader Metroplex, but, even combined with Nemesis Breaker Megatron remained unable to defeat his opponent, and was uncermoniously crushed into the ground. Following this defeat, Megatron entered a state of intense anger towards himself for losing so easily, refusing to believe that his own power was so inadequate. Sensing the Giant Planet Key and coming into direct contact with it, Megatron managed to acquire some of its power and took on a shadowed black form, proceeding to decimate most of the Autobot army with great ease. Once confronted by Optimus Prime, Megatron then declared that he was no more, and that he now had been reborn as Galvatron
That was it, I couldn't remember what happened after Metroplex was stepping on Megatron in that fight on Gigantion.

Nice pictures TK. Ever since I first saw it, I've liked the Unicron save for the chest/stomach...the protusion just doesn't sit right with me.

Anyway, how is the quality? Looks like it could be floppy.

The legs are a little floppy. They're not too bad, but he does that "fall into a straddle split" thing if you don't watch it. You just have to be careful how you position him, he won't do it unless his legs are already too wide apart.

The chest protrusion doesn't bother me too much. I think it looks alright on Unicron. It would bother me much more if it was somebody else. It really depends on the angle, also. Like in that first picture it makes him look slightly potbellied, but in the second one it looks totally normal, imo.

Oh I also recently got Cybertron Downshift, who would be perfect if not for the stubby arms & unrotating head. I love how he looks with his guns mounted on his shoulders.

Awesome pics TK. Lets see more. ~

Also, I dont have any TF toys :(

Too hard to get and too expensive over here. The only one I had was a Cybertron Optimus, for my little nephew.

However, I seen a pretty cool Starscream and Vector Prime for a decent price. I may invest. :p

Is it the gargantuan Cybertron Starscream? I hate that figure. I want to punch whoever thought, "Hey, I've got an idea! Let's make a Starscream that is bigger than Unicron!"

I might take some more pictures later tonight. I decided to spring for the new Cybertron Prime mostly because I think he is an even better candidate for Rodimus. Taking some pictures of him with Armada Prime would be pretty sweet.

No, it isn't thankfully. It goes together with Vector Prime. I'll take some pics when I buy it.

Bryan might be talking about the Vector Prime/Starscream two pack with the smaller sized Starscream. The Starscream does not have the deco of the cartoon/larger version though, and is exclusive to the US. The one in Japan has the proper colors.

Edit- Indeed Bryan was.

TK, get some clear nail polish and apply it to the ball joints on Unicron. Let it dry, re-attach the legs, and they should be tighter.

Cybertron Downshift's head is able to be changed so that it can move. I'll post some instructions if you want.

Hah, that sounds like an interesting trick. I might try it if I ever decide they are giving me a problem, but as it stands I don't think it's bad enough to bother (okay, so I'm lazy.)

Making Downshift's head swivel would be awesome. If you know of some instructions posting or linking to them would be appreciated!

EDIT: Okay, so I just saw the Optimus/Megatron Classics 2 pack figures.





Megatron looks good except for that weird arm. I don't know wtf that is. Optimus, on the other hand, looks like a butt, imo. All the pictures I've seen seem to imply a lack of flexibility in his upper leg joints, and his face looks squished and stupid. I'm sad. I was hoping his more show-accurate look would make him a cheap alternative to Masterpiece Prime, but I don't think that's going to be the case.

But at least I like one Optimus and one Megatron. Only problem is I'll have to buy the 2 pack to get the Megs I like and then I will have the Prime I don't like. rrrrgghrhrrhrh.

Here are some better pictures of the toys themselves. I don't like Prime's vehicle mode much but the robot mode is fine by me.






Here they are in the package:

Pretty neat.

Also, who is the 2nd bot, I thought it was Armada Megs until I seen robot mode.

Edit: That answers that. :p

I am glad to see that Megatron's gun arm can look better than it does in that picture I posted before. Still a little goofy looking, but better.

I really hate that Optimus though. Worst Optimus ever.

Pretty neat.

Also, who is the 2nd bot, I thought it was Armada Megs until I seen robot mode.

What?

Anyway, here's something else cool. Masterpiece Starscream comes with two different faces. I'm still irked that he isn't going to be classic colors, but it's going to be a cool toy regardless.



Maybe one day they'll release a repaint with the classic deco.

I hadn't heard he wasn't going to be classic colors. That's sort of goofy. I don't even know what the point of releasing a masterpiece figure is if you're removing signature aspects of him. =/

The double face thing is pretty neat though.

Also: <a href=http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsid=A76CAA23-D56F-E112-4C4CDAE835EE7FA7>this </a> is pretty neat for that price. I might just try to track it down. I've never gone to Costco, but there's a first time for everything!

What?

Sorry, i'm very tired. :( I didn't recognise him intially. =/

For some reason they decided he needed to be this weird powder blue:



Still looks to be really cool, just weird that the colors are like that. Hasbro and Takara both are repaint whores, so I'm quite sure that they'll release it with the right colors eventually.

they better. It would be a crime not to.

Still looks to be really cool, just weird that the colors are like that. Hasbro and Takara both are repaint whores, so I'm quite sure that they'll release it with the right colors eventually.
I hope so, I'm not at all fond of that colour on Starscream.

For some reason they decided he needed to be this weird powder blue:



Still looks to be really cool, just weird that the colors are like that. Hasbro and Takara both are repaint whores, so I'm quite sure that they'll release it with the right colors eventually.




:swoon:




I used to be obsessed with idols.

A few days ago some rumors of Jazz's movie appearance surfaced:

"Grey Body.
Visor over eyes.
Claw like fingers.
Body is similar in design to Optimus Prime and Bumblebee in that it has exposed gears, similar feet.
Pontiac Solstice vehicle mode.
Front end of the car becomes his chest."

Sounds like it may be semi accurate to the oldschool look, more so than everyone besides Optimus at least. So far.

I am a long time lover of Transformers but I hate this new CG crap they make now with the cber/universe keys or something like that. I'm thinking about getting the Transformer game is it a waste of time or no?

I'm thinking about getting the Transformer game is it a waste of time or no?

Most reviews I've read have said it's an average game, worth a rental maybe. No real bashing, but no huge praise either. I don't have it myself, so I can't give you my personal opinion.

Haha. You know things are bad when Jazz having a visor is a ray of hope.

I've been examining Optimus and trying to figure out how the hell they're going to make him transform.



I just don't see how there is any possible way there can be a transformation between these two modes. Where is the grill? Nowhere. Where are the exhaust stacks? Nowhere. Where is the windshield? It's vanished into thin air.

See where those double wheels are on his legs? Those have to be the double wheels at the back of the truck. What happened to the red covers that are on them in the truck mode? Those seem to have dissintegrated. It looks like the front wheels could be at his feet, which would mean he transforms a little backwards of what we're used to... which is fine, in and of itself, but I don't see how the conversion is possible.

Jazz's chest being the front end of the car sounds "accurate" as well.

Anyway, lots of people are wondering the same thing as you TK. Lots figure either these models are not exactly final, or that there's a bit of "morphing" that goes on in the transformations.

About the flames: Michael Bay said it was the only way they could realistically make him blue and red. Whatever.

To further the toy news, last week or so someone found out that Hasbro has registered a new trademark called Optimash Prime, so expect to add an Optimus Mr. Potato Head to your shelves if so desired. They also copyrighted the tag line "More than Meets the Fry." Should look pretty funny among the Star Wars ones. I wouldn't doubt them releasing Marvel Comics ones either seeing as how next year Hasbro will have full rights to Marvel rather than ToyBiz.

If there is "morphing," that will be the last straw. I will boycott the movie forever. Even on DVD.

If there is "morphing," that will be the last straw. I will boycott the movie forever. Even on DVD.

I think I already started a boycott for myself. There's no doubt in my mind there will be morphing because the truck has so many large, solid, flat parts yet the robot form is broken into smaller parts.

My guess is that they are going to have the flat parts break into a million tiny pieces and shift around in implausible ways. Which isn't quite as bad as it just blurring into another form, but is still pretty gay.

If there is "morphing," that will be the last straw. I will boycott the movie forever. Even on DVD.


x2

From Michael Bay, Transformer heights in the film:

Jazz : 13 feet tall
Bumblebee: 17 feet tall
Ratchet: 24 feet tall
Iron Hide: 26 feet tall
Optimus Prime: 28 feet tall
Megatron: 34 feet tall

So much for that whole Jazz sounding semi-accurate thing. Why is he smaller than Bumblebee :(


For TK, image of a Hot Rod miniature from the Titanium line. One of 5 Hot Rod/Rodimus based released for the year. In this line it looks to be the first one not to pretty much suck. All of the other miniature guys are horribly ill proportioned and stuck in insanely goofy poses.

Megatron, 34 feet. :shock:

From Michael Bay, Transformer heights in the film:

Jazz : 13 feet tall
Bumblebee: 17 feet tall
Ratchet: 24 feet tall
Iron Hide: 26 feet tall
Optimus Prime: 28 feet tall
Megatron: 34 feet tall

So much for that whole Jazz sounding semi-accurate thing. Why is he smaller than Bumblebee :(

Yeah, 13 feet tall is lol what. How can he even be a car.



For TK, image of a Hot Rod miniature from the Titanium line. One of 5 Hot Rod/Rodimus based released for the year. In this line it looks to be the first one not to pretty much suck. All of the other miniature guys are horribly ill proportioned and stuck in insanely goofy poses.

Even that one looks a little goofy, imo. ;( Not too bad though.

I really wanna get the Hot Rod opening the matrix figure. That'll probably be one of the first things I obtain when I get an ebay account.

Yeah, 13 feet tall is lol what. How can he even be a car.

He can be a k-car.

Most reviews I've read have said it's an average game, worth a rental maybe. No real bashing, but no huge praise either. I don't have it myself, so I can't give you my personal opinion.

I've played it and I enjoyed the fuck out of it for the short game time you get from it.

Even without the trailer, Optimus is a shitload of fun to transform into vehicle mode and send Decepticons sprawling as he bumrushes them then proceeds to whip them with his rifle.

And the boss fights are fucking epic when you go toe-to-toe with them instead of trying cheap run-and-hide sniping battles.

This is mostly because you get the definite sense of inertia from the huge fucking robot you're controlling trying to change directions when they've been going at a dead sprint up until that point, or the sprawling ragdolls you or your enemies create when a huge explosion goes off nearby.

All of the complaints I've read about the controls forget that you're supposed to be playing clumsy fucking robots with massive firepower. None of the G1 Transformers were ever more agile than the controls allow you to be in the game.

Even that one looks a little goofy, imo. ;( Not too bad though.


Look at some of the others and you'll definitely see why I say that Hot Rod is the best in the line so far. It's still not as cool as those Japanese PVCs for sure though.

Odin, thanks for the review. I imagine the game is easy to find for a low price now eh?

I've seen it going for 20 euro(around $15) in quite a few shops. I may purchase it myself. :p

I've played it and I enjoyed the fuck out of it for the short game time you get from it.

Even without the trailer, Optimus is a shitload of fun to transform into vehicle mode and send Decepticons sprawling as he bumrushes them then proceeds to whip them with his rifle.

And the boss fights are fucking epic when you go toe-to-toe with them instead of trying cheap run-and-hide sniping battles.

This is mostly because you get the definite sense of inertia from the huge fucking robot you're controlling trying to change directions when they've been going at a dead sprint up until that point, or the sprawling ragdolls you or your enemies create when a huge explosion goes off nearby.

All of the complaints I've read about the controls forget that you're supposed to be playing clumsy fucking robots with massive firepower. None of the G1 Transformers were ever more agile than the controls allow you to be in the game.
I completely agree about the game.

I know I've been upset at the progress of this film, however I still gotta have a "Giant F***ing Robots Are Coming" T-shirt (with an Autobots logo on the back).

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/728/728564p1.html

So Jazz is a Pontiac Solstice, huh. So the real reason Bumble Bee ain't a Beetle but instead a camero is because General Motors called shot gun on all the autobots. interesting. I wonder if now is a good time to invest in some GM stock.

Here's what may be Bumblebee's face, though it's possibly just a stand in that will be replaced by CGI.

I just found and saved this pic in my photobucket. the Saleen Camero, Bumble Bee.

Interview with the movie producers:
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_d4j_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=featured&article=241&Itemid=27

Candy just in time for Halloween:



Classics Ultra Magnus vehicle mode (Optimus repaint, yawn)


MarvinStraight, there are lots of great photos ciruclating the net of the movie autobot vehicle modes. They do look really nice in vehicle form. Too bad the robots aren't turning out too hot eh?

MarvinStraight, there are lots of great photos ciruclating the net of the movie autobot vehicle modes. They do look really nice in vehicle form. Too bad the robots aren't turning out too hot eh?

I agree. In fact I need to find the statement made by the Hasbro guy on his reply to fans negative reaction.


"Why is the Camaro being used for Bumblebee?"

"Clothes don’t make the man, the characters are still the same. Bumblebee is still the same character, just up dated Alt. mode."

Like I said before, GM has shot gun on all the autobot cars. Statements like this only validates they're full of shit. Now I'm getting more pissed.

uuuuuuuuuuuugh, I wanted the Classics Magnus to be an original mold so badly. >_>

I think there may be a 6 inch Titanium one coming TK, but don't quote me on that. Still, I agree, would've been nice if he'd been an original mold in Classics. I bet they do a Bumblebee repaint as Cliffjumper too. I don't mind that as much as the Ultra Magnus thing, but I still don't totally welcome it, as Cliffjumper/Bumblebee were not as similar as most remember. The only repaints I fully welcome for Classics will be Thundercracker and Skywarp from Starscream.

In general I always like new molds, but I usually don't mind repaints. But I really wanted an original Magnus because he was created as a very different character from Optimus, and no decent toys (at least by my standards) have ever been made that really embody that version of him. For other TFs, I don't mind them having differently-colored "clones," but I hate having an Optimus clone because he is so unique.

They could at least resculpt the head or something so he has less of Optimus's signature features.

I just found and saved this pic in my photobucket. the Saleen Camero, Bumble Bee.


MEH, that is all.

That's a nice car, but it's not Bumble Bee..


I wonder if now is a good time to invest in some GM stock.

Don't do it Marvin. American cars suck on public door knobs. They are so fuel inefficient that people over seas even know not to buy them. The gas crunch would've almost finished American cars off if it wasn't for Bush.

http://www.transformersthemoviedvd.com/

You guys know about this right?

Vote in my poll (Thread 30626)

That's a nice car, but it's not Bumble Bee..



Don't do it Marvin. American cars suck on public door knobs. They are so fuel inefficient that people over seas even know not to buy them. The gas crunch would've almost finished American cars off if it wasn't for Bush.

It's not the bumble bee we grew up with. But it's the bumble bee the new generation is gonna have to live with.

Trust me, I ain't even trying to invest or own an american car. That's why I drive a Mitsubishi. But if people are going to cream there pants over the new camero on top of it being a transformer then I'm gonna have to milk as much of the income as I can. It's all about the $$$.

http://www.transformersthemoviedvd.com/

You guys know about this right?

Yup. I'm buying it, even though I already have the first DVD.

Yup. I'm buying it, even though I already have the first DVD.

Yup. I'm buying it, even though I already have the first DVD.

My best friend wore his Transformers shirt today for first day of school.

I don't have the movie on DVD yet so it's not even a question to buy this upcoming special edition. I've still got my original 80s f.h.e. VHS version of the movie. I think I've probably watched it more than any other film.

Yup. I'm buying it, even though I already have the first DVD.

I don't have the movie on DVD yet so it's not even a question to buy this upcoming special edition. I've still got my original 80s f.h.e. VHS version of the movie. I think I've probably watched it more than any other film.

Haha. When I was a kid, I always thought the "f.h.e." logo thing that appeared at the beginning of videos was just some standard thing that happened on every video ever.

What else had it besides Transformers and Ninja Turtles?

Anyway, here's a better picture of Optimus' robot mode from the movie:


I like it more now after seeing in better detail the design of his armor, how about you guys?

Toy news: Binaltech Hot Rod (Mirage repaint)

Anyway, here's a better picture of Optimus' robot mode from the movie:


Mixed feelings.

edit: I just realized how much Hot Rod's head reminds me of Megaman X's head. I believe Hot Rod came first.

I just realized how much Hot Rod's head reminds me of Megaman X's head. I believe Hot Rod came first.

Hot Rod came first indeed.

Yeah, I'd seen the Binaltech Hot Rod. It's okay, but doesn't do him justice, imo.

That picture didn't really help me much with Optimus's robot mode. I still have the same complaints, which is that it's got nothing to do with his vehicle mode and I really can't stand that visual style. I want my giant robots to be sleek, shiny, and badass, not spindly skeletal structures with a few plates on them. =(

I do kind of like <a href=http://images.myphotoalbum.com/s/sp/spy/spyd/spyde/spyderbytez/albums/album01/CIMG2670.sized.jpg>this</a> Rodimus! It is the first actual Rodimus Prime (i.e. not Hot Rod) figure that looks good to me.

href=http://images.myphotoalbum.com/s/sp/spy/spyd/spyde/spyderbytez/albums/album01/CIMG2670.sized.jpg>this</a> Rodimus! It is the first actual Rodimus Prime (i.e. not Hot Rod) figure that looks good to me.

Might want to fix that coding :( Still, I agree, Titanium Rodimus looks pretty good. I agree that Binaltech Hot Rod just being a repaint of Mirage is not great, but it still looks neat imo. Especially since the mold is just so good.

The reason I like the movie Optimus a bit better now is that I can see there was a little more thought put into the shape of the armor than I thought there was at first. It doesn't look quite so much as totally random bits to me, and the feet look slightly better than I was thinking at first. I'm reserving thoughts on transformation until I see it.

What. The link works fine for me. :O

http://www.myphotoalbum.com/mpa.gif

Clicking it takes me there ^

More MP Starscream images:



Nice robot mode shot


^Size comparison with MP Convoy. Looks like Starscream is only about 8 inches in robot mode. Hopefully the price will be lower accordingly. Also pictured is the trailer coming witht the Japanese MP Convoy re-release.

I guess it's alright for him to be that height, but he does look a little puny in comparison to Optimus (also it's kinda funny because Optimus will be so much bigger than him in vehicle mode. That's one tiny jet!)

I'm still totally POd about those colors, but I was probably never going to get him anyway so oh well.

Starscreams colour scheme is rank. :(

I guess it's alright for him to be that height, but he does look a little puny in comparison to Optimus (also it's kinda funny because Optimus will be so much bigger than him in vehicle mode. That's one tiny jet!)

I'm still totally POd about those colors, but I was probably never going to get him anyway so oh well.


That's about the size he was compared to Optimus in robot mode in the series wasn't it? The scale was always bad in 80's cartoons. I don't realy mind Starscream's paint job either, it looks more realistic with crimson red. If I still bought toys I would grab it up quick.

He wasn't that much shorter than Optimus... not most of the time anyway. There were generally two rough sizes for Transformers in the G1 cartoon, Optimus size and Bumblebee size. There was some variation within those but for the most part, any larger-sized transformers were almost the same height.

It's not really the height itself that bothers me so much as the fact that Optimus's head is about three times the size of Starscream's. It makes Starscream look like a much smaller character than he actually was... but really this is more the fault of MP Prime, I guess, because he is also too tall next to the alternators forms of the characters. MP Starscream is probably more or less alternators size, actually.

Also, one thing I noticed about his design that is of interest is that they actually went so far as to replicate the TV show look of the prongs on either side of Starscream's head. Now that is dedication. I'm not sure how they made it work though. I guess that in jet mode, the openings simply aren't facing outward like they normally would be?

I wouldn't know. I won't look at it anymore. It's hard to resist buying idols.

He wasn't that much shorter than Optimus... not most of the time anyway. There were generally two rough sizes for Transformers in the G1 cartoon, Optimus size and Bumblebee size. There was some variation within those but for the most part, any larger-sized transformers were almost the same height.

There's a chart I'm trying to find that had the G1 characters in a size comparison. You'd be surprised how many differences there were in the heights. I'd rather these toys go by that than anything else. I mean, doing it by vehicle modes would be ridiculous at this point, as they've never done that in TFs anyway. Plus, Starscream would have to be fucking gigantic and that'd just look wrong as well. I know you just mean Starscream should probably just be about equal to Prime in height. I'm not arguing with you or anything. I feel he should be about a head or two taller maybe, but I'm fine with Prime being bigger.



For those of you who don't like these colors, the first concept of his color scheme shown was powder blue and pink, so this is a lot better. I too wish it were his classic colors, but I still like what's there! It looks fine, and I know it'll be released in the original colors anyway.

Anyway, some news about the next TF cartoon:

"Cartoon Network's program schedule for 2007 leaked this week over at ToonTalk. Among the series listed for the fall 2007 skew is a show called Transformers: Heroes, which is being produced by CN Studios. The listing states:

"The Transformers are back! Arriving on Earth of the future, where robots are common place as humanity's servant class. But Earth's robots have a secret that may doom humanity and their unlikely Autobot saviors."

The listing called for 26 episodes, which is a standard CN order for a first season. This jibes with Aaron Archer's comments last Botcon that the next TF cartoon would be produced in the US again."

I'm fine with Optimus being taller, I just think he is a little too much taller in this comparison. I know there was a lot of variation in character heights in G1, but the thing is, even the same characters would be different sizes in comparison with each other sometimes, I think. In general, I think Optimus and Starscream were about the same height.

I saw the TF Heroes thing! I'm conflicted on whether to be hopeful or irked: I was hoping that TF series wouldn't start getting made in the US again until a few years later when I have a degree and can try to get a job writing for them. But this does probably mean it will have no more goofy shouting some words and then transforming with a flashing background type BS. I wish they would give it to Bob and Larry again so we could have another Beast Wars-quality show, but that's not likely. =/

I know what you meant about the height, as I said, I didn't really mean to seem as if I was arguing.

As for TF Heroes:

It may still turn out styled similarly to the current TF shows, so don't get your hopes up! I don't even mind that attack name calling stuff so much, it's the 10 minutes of stock animation in every 22 minute show that's really problematic. The attacks lend themselves to that a bit, but the thing that has made it the worst in the current TF shows are the transformation sequences. Why do we need to see the same insane 2 minute transformation sequence every time the characters change modes? Sure, the first time they're really cool, but after that it just fucking gets monotonous. I remember the Car Robots/RiD final episode had every single character in it, and during the big final battle, they took turns showing every single one of their stock animation transformation sequences, leaving the actual battle itself to a few minutes of dialogue and Galvatron/Devil-Gigatron being defeated by one flick of God Fire Convoy's sword.

Hopefully they'll go back to just having them jump in the air, do a few flick twists and turns and voila like the older cartoons. There'll be more time for things to actually...happen in each episode.

I didn't think you were arguing. I was just clarifying.

I haven't even seen more than a couple episodes of any TF series that has come out since Beast Wars, so my idea of what happens is sketchy. All I remember is not being able to stand the thing because of too many dumb DBZ type things.

Anyway, yeah, I really don't have high hopes for it. But bringing it back to the states is at least a step in the right direction, I think.

Should be. I remember being sad when the US produced He-Man cartoon that came out the same time as Armada was so so so so much better made than Armada for the most part. Armada was the last decent TF series. It started out shit but got pretty decent half way through. It was plagued by inconsistent animation and bad translation though. Multiple characters kept being called "Leader 1" and sometimes they'd forget to translate the names to the English versions, for example, sometimes Hot Shot was Hot Shot and other times he was Hot Rod.

Classics news: Ultra Magnus Vs. Skywarp 2 Pack



If this is the only way they're being sold...great ploy by Hasbro to make sure people don't skip out on a single packed Ultra Magnus eh?

Also...Target exclusive. I hate store exclusives...unless it's Toys R Us or Wal Mart, they end up impossible to find.

"Cartoon Network's program schedule for 2007 leaked this week over at ToonTalk. Among the series listed for the fall 2007 skew is a show called Transformers: Heroes, which is being produced by CN Studios. The listing states:

"The Transformers are back! Arriving on Earth of the future, where robots are common place as humanity's servant class. But Earth's robots have a secret that may doom humanity and their unlikely Autobot saviors."

The listing called for 26 episodes, which is a standard CN order for a first season. This jibes with Aaron Archer's comments last Botcon that the next TF cartoon would be produced in the US again."


What! I hope it's worth a crap. They stopped making serious, well written cartoons in the early 90's with the advent of televised gay-izm. Nowadays Transformers key color arrangements are PASTEL for all crying. What do you think about it man? Do you think Spike will be a sissy punk and Optimus, a wattered down George Clooney instead of John Wayne? Serious Ktulu, will this be robot Care Bares?

Fuck Japan.

Yes, I know that must seem random, but there's a reason for it. I have only recently become aware that there were actually TWO more seasons of Transformers after the three I grew up watching. And guess where they were released.

So fuck Japan for getting something that I deserved more than them. It's not like their kids could even see the whole picture with their crazy letterbox vision.

You mean headmasters, right? From what I hear it wasn't too much the same. Went away from the established characters after a few episodes, or some such, I think. At any rate, they bring back Rodimus, which I like, but then he goes out of the picture again and they just dilute the TF universe by introducing "headmasters" or whatever they are and blah. I'm glad I never saw it, personally.

I'm pretty sure it is possible to get it with English subs now though, if you're really interested.

And I'm not bothered by the Magnus/Skywarp two-pack because I wasn't planning on getting either one of them anyway. I'm definitely getting Starscream and Optimus though, and I feel no need to get repaints of them.

I am still royally pissed off that Classics Magnus is an Optimus repaint though. I guess they are so obsessed with that whole "Optimus, then Magnus, then Nemesis" thing that they can't stop now. =/

I hadn't heard about it before, so that was all I was really annoyed about. Now that I've read up on it a bit, I'm pretty glad I didn't see it. Bringing back Rodimus would have been neat, but if I read it right, Optimus dies again pretty quickly, which would royally piss me off.

Japanese Headmasters at least provides a more suitable ending (not rushed to fucking hell) to the original series than the US one though. It really does. The American ending is pretty crap! "The Rebirth" is one of the worst entries in the entire series, sadly.

It's possible to get them with English subs indeed, and there's a lot of cool fan dubs online as well. I've done bit parts for the Transformers Victory one, and I've voiced Long Haul in a dubbing of Headmasters. Yay yay yay.



I am still royally pissed off that Classics Magnus is an Optimus repaint though. I guess they are so obsessed with that whole "Optimus, then Magnus, then Nemesis" thing that they can't stop now. =/

Yep, Hasbro and Takara both are repaint whores. I expected nothing less. Takara/Tomy is even worse actually. Since the Beast Wars days they've released red, clear, black, gold, and chrome repaints of nearly every damn mold, I swear, and there are more rare ass store-exclusive repaints over there than you could ever afford to actually own.

I don't mind Skywarp just being a repaint, because that's all he should be. He looks neat imo and I definitely want him. If the two are only sold in that pack at Target, though it'll be harder to find, the price will probably be lower than the two would cost seperately, so that's a bonus.

I'll admit that Skywarp does look pretty cool. I definitely like Starscream better though, and if I get a second jet I'll probably wait for Ramjet so that I get a different mold. Thing about Magnus is that if he had always just looked like Optimus except for the colors, I wouldn't mind him always being a repaint, but I really wanted a toy to represent his original look, which to me is the only true form of the character. I wouldn't even care if they based it on Optimus's mold and just modified it a little. But sadly, I think that figure in your avatar is the most accurate Magnus figure ever made. =(

And holy crap dude, voicing for a fan dub sounds awesome.

I just started. Slowly inching my way in to bigger parts!

Also, from what I've seen, Headmasters and the other Japanese shows indeed aren't that great, but they still have a cool factor too. It's like a guilty pleasure I guess, I don't know. Still, to me, the US G1 ending was really poor so it's not like the Japanese continuation could possibly really be any worse.

Check out this video I found on YouTube...http://youtube.com/watch?v=UeSNPmNlEO4

For one, I can't believe that function actually works. Secondly, I can't believe someone actually made a video of that :o

TEH MOVIE STUFFS

I found Prime's real alt mode!



Clearer pictures of the bot mode again, showing that his face is kind of...goofy. The "regular version" looks like Bumblebee's face with a blue helmet. Looks like we have an idea what the Autobot faces will look like in general....unfortunately, like Berbels from Thundercats.

Hah, I just saw this and came over here to post about it.

Yeah, Optimus's face looks ridiculous, but I should stop being surprised about hating anything I see from the movie.

And I still see absolutely no way that this thing could transform.

You're not thinking in hawt mailbox transformation engineering.

Original Movie Special Edition DVD Cover Displaying it's "transforming" lenticular effect:

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room41/1182128/Transformers-DVD3.gif

Holly frikken crap that is cool.

Does the image load crazy slow for you? Does for me.

Loads really slow for me also. But man, that is insanely awesome.

Must be the "filelodge" website. It was the only site I could find that would upload a file that size though.

http://www.transformersclub.com/_images/Transformers-DVD3.gif

^ There's a link to the original file.

Yeah, the image loaded really slow for me too, but then I saved it so I can view its glory any time. ^_^

The first image they showed of that cover was the Optimus & gang portion, and it made me really wish those guys had bigger roles in the movie. I actually like all the "new" characters they introduced for the most part, but it still sucks to me how that had to equal the old guys getting pushed aside. I know why the decision was made...but it's still really too bad.

Must be the "filelodge" website. It was the only site I could find that would upload a file that size though.

http://www.transformersclub.com/_images/Transformers-DVD3.gif

^ There's a link to the original file.

Saved for excellence, that was a great gif.

The first image they showed of that cover was the Optimus & gang portion, and it made me really wish those guys had bigger roles in the movie. I actually like all the "new" characters they introduced for the most part, but it still sucks to me how that had to equal the old guys getting pushed aside. I know why the decision was made...but it's still really too bad.

Yeah, I feel more or less the same way. I don't mind Optimus's death, 'cause that was such a great dramatic twist to the story, but it would have been cool if some of the key characters had stayed more key from then on.

Guess that is what the comic continuity is for though.

You're not thinking in hawt mailbox transformation engineering.

Original Movie Special Edition DVD Cover Displaying it's "transforming" lenticular effect:

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room41/1182128/Transformers-DVD3.gif

<3<3

want :(

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=24383

Shia Labeouf interview

^ Some weird photo showing some movie robot modes. In the upper right hand corner behind Starscream you can see Ratchet, in the bottom left hand corner is some new unseen Decepticon, and Jazz is the lowest one on the right side. It's all hard to make out, but still interesting. Starscream looks like a junkpile with arms :(

Anyone wanna preorder the US Soundwave reissue?
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2475393&cp=&f=Taxonomy%2FTRUS%2F2254197&origkw=soundwave&kw=soundwave&parentPage=search

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Bumpty

New Bumblebee picture:



Toy news today:

Ramjet and Jetfire Classics proto pics have surfaced






Jetfire is supposed to have two heads, one like the cartoon Skyfire's face, and one like the original Veritech Fighter toy.

Also, this Optimus Primal/Megatron 2 pack is out at Toys R Us, based on really cool Japanese remolds of the originals.

Awesome. I was already really excited for Jetfire and Ramjet and now I am even moreso. The Classics line continues to deliver. I am seriously so excited for this, and I better start saving money. <3

So far, all the images I've seen of the new Optimus & Megs BW molds aren't to my liking. I have both the original figures and I really like those molds, and these ones look a little less well-proportioned in comparison to me. Plus, I always disliked Optimus's "mouth" in his original form as it looks like he's wearing lipstick, so adding it to the figure is a negative imo.

I do approve of the reduction in size from ultra to mega, though.

So far, all the images I've seen of the new Optimus & Megs BW molds aren't to my liking. I have both the original figures and I really like those molds, and these ones look a little less well-proportioned in comparison to me. Plus, I always disliked Optimus's "mouth" in his original form as it looks like he's wearing lipstick, so adding it to the figure is a negative imo.


Check out good galleries of those here:

http://tfkenkon.com/collection/act412/

http://tfkenkon.com/collection/act413/

The Primal actually has unpainted lipseses

To me, they have their good points and bad points. I'll probably buy them whenever I finally see them.

Oh, I like those ones. It's the ones pictured above in the two-pack I'm not keen on.

Incidentally, I love that guy's web site. I dunno how he got his hands on a classics prime already, but his gallery of that figure is amazing and made me want it fifty times as much.

He always gets stuff early, probably either buys samples or gets the ones that pop up in Korea months before the actual releases.

Anyway, when you were talking about "the new molds" I thought you meant...the actual new ones. Sorry, got confused.

Edit- Classics Grimlock just surfaced





My opinion: The Mecha Godzilla head in beast mode isn't great but otherwise it looks to be a good figure

Looks great to me. I'm fine with the head. I do like the original style of it better but I doubt it's for any reason beyond nostalgia.

I think that's a big part of the whole line really, it goes back to the basic of having the gimmick just be the transformation rather than it becoming secondary to whatever insane extra thing they can pile on top.

Cool new pictures of Optimus:





Looking better each time I see it

Seriously. I honestly think he is maybe even cooler than MP Prime.

Here's some new toyses pictures. Stuff that's been seen before already but they're good pictures so I'll share.

Classics

Mirage in Package


Crappy picture of his robot mode with Grimlock if you haven't seen it


Titanium

Scourge(Should fit in well with Classics)



Optimal Optimus



Pictures of Classics Mini-Cons in package showed up today as well but they aren't really worth showing.

I am a giant nerd

Yeah I saw the minicons but honestly I've never cared about minicons at all. Ever.

So far, I don't like the look of any of the 6" Titanium figures except Rodimus, which I love. Scourge looks good, but I hate TFs that do that stupid "shell" thing where their robot mode is essentially just some doors opening and inside there happens to be a body. I don't like that Optimal Optimus at all; his vehicle modes look even stupider than the ones on the full-size toy (it looks even more like he just did a bellyflop and started rolling) and anyway I'm a big fan of the original version of that toy even despite the questionable vehicle modes. Plus apparently his joints are crap. I will say though it is neat that they made his shoulder guns retractable. That was a major flaw in the BW one.

I'm just crossing my fingers everything is good with the Rodimus figure because assuming they don't fuck it up it will be the toy I have wanted since I was like six years old or something.

The Rodimus certainly looks cool. If anything, you'll have a good display piece with it.

The Scourge one makes me happy because it's...the actual Scourge and not just a black Optimus or some weird creature. The G1 version deserved a good update finally.

I wonder if a Cyclonus is on the way. A real G1 galvatron figure that doesn't suck would be nice too.

Anyway, yeah, I guess that Scourge is pretty nice. I'm not thrilled about the transformation but it is definitely neat that there's a well-made, movie-accurate version of the character. Maybe Titanium will continue to fill in these unfilled holes by giving us a movie-accurate Magnus! It sounds like wishful thinking to me, but then again so would have that Rodimus figure.

That'd be pretty great. They should throw in Kupp and Springer too while they're at it imo. The "new" characters in the movie all had pretty neat designs now that I think about it. I'd like a totally accurate Galvatron update as well, as I've always loved his design.

I meant to post this yesterday but I was too lazy, new Ratchet vehicle mode shot from the movie:



Here's the 20th Anniversary DVD menu screen, for some reason:



Generic aside from Prime, but it works I guess. It's not like I really care either way though.

The menu on the existing DVD is cooler imo.

Nevar seen it!

After reading an interview with Shia LaBeouf (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/24383), I have lost all hope for the new movie again. The way Bay is directing the thing sounds completely retarded.