bastilashanweb
07-16-2006, 11:39 AM
Or did he look like a frigging girl or a really young schoolboy he reminded of that guy in Peter Pan, Jeremy Sumpster or something. I mean know Cloud had his femine traits but he still looked like a man.

I dunno might get flamed fo this but I just couldn't take him seriously.

Starscream
07-16-2006, 11:56 AM

'nuff said.

Hex Omega
07-16-2006, 12:13 PM
^^ That answers your question I think.

Sarah
07-16-2006, 12:46 PM
if you can't take male characters that have a somewhat female look to them, I suggest you consider finding a better genre of games to suit your tastes than japanese RPGs.

bastilashanweb
07-16-2006, 01:10 PM
Erm, first things first I'm Japanese and I like playing Japanese games and I like playing RPGs and suits my taste just fine, secondly, Squall, Cloud and Reno, Vincent and many other FF guys don't look like girls. It's just him and (Yazoo whose in a movie)

Also that photo is hilarious.

jewess crabcake
07-16-2006, 08:12 PM
Actually Squall does dress a little Metro sexual.

bastilashanweb
07-17-2006, 10:01 AM
Squall look like amn ,well thats my opinon, he looks like River Phoneix, the tormented type, dressing metrosexual doesn't mean you look like a girl although I can go on about Tidu's outit, crappy springs to mind.

matt1912
07-17-2006, 10:32 AM
as ive said before many of these style of RPGs as sarah says have slightly or sometimes more feminine looking characters, it is supposidly a way to get the female audience want to play more as well.

bastilashanweb
07-17-2006, 11:13 AM
Oh I get you, I understand them to have "some" femimine qualities like Cloud but to me Tidus looks like a complete woman without breast it was kind of distracting when I was playing.

Prak
07-17-2006, 03:24 PM
You know there are actually men in the real world who seem that effeminate, don't you? Considering that, what's wrong with one being in a game?

bastilashanweb
07-17-2006, 03:30 PM
Lol, there probably transvestites, which I have no problem with, whatever rocks your boat, but with Yuna/Tidus scene it looked like two girls kissing.
It just incredibly over the top the way the made him look like a woman. It just seems to be him he looks like agirl in the FF series and maybe that new guy but I have to say I'm one of those girls that like a man to look like man.

So I couldn't help but laugh at Tidus when he came on screen.

Prak
07-17-2006, 04:20 PM
You seem to have missed the point there. I was asking if you thought there was anything actually *wrong* about it.

bastilashanweb
07-17-2006, 05:59 PM
What's wrong with it? well is he a man, right? I swear it looks like I have more balls than him. And he's not a transexual, actually that would explain a lot.

Prak
07-17-2006, 06:00 PM
In other words, you can't find a real problem, but you're griping anyway. Okay!

iceberg325
07-17-2006, 07:14 PM
aside from him looking like a fem, he was really whiny and annoying. That cannot be denied. IMO worse main character in a ff game.

Prak
07-17-2006, 07:23 PM
Why? Because he's a character that actually has a trace of humanity in him? That's silly.

The fact is that Tidus has a much greater depth to his character than any of the previous main characters, with the possible exception of Zidane. Whereas crappy characters like Cloud and Squall just mindlessly flow with the situation, Tidus takes the time to make decisions and actually winds up altering the course of events instead of just riding them to their conclusion.

Basically, Tidus is an actual character, rather than a mere avatar for the player, which I would assume you prefer. However, looking at it objectively, it is very clear that Tidus was vastly superior.

iceberg325
07-17-2006, 07:31 PM
Why? Because he's a character that actually has a trace of humanity in him? That's silly.

The fact is that Tidus has a much greater depth to his character than any of the previous main characters, with the possible exception of Zidane. Whereas crappy characters like Cloud and Squall just mindlessly flow with the situation, Tidus takes the time to make decisions and actually winds up altering the course of events instead of just riding them to their conclusion.

Basically, Tidus is an actual character, rather than a mere avatar for the player, which I would assume you prefer. However, looking at it objectively, it is very clear that Tidus was vastly superior.

I think its easier to see more depth will tidus because FFX was voice acted. Its easier to see more emotion from him, and he is acted out better that way. If FF7, and 8 were done the same way, we'd look at the other main characters in a different light.

Van Finel
07-17-2006, 07:34 PM
Why? Because he's a character that actually has a trace of humanity in him? That's silly.

The fact is that Tidus has a much greater depth to his character than any of the previous main characters, with the possible exception of Zidane. Whereas crappy characters like Cloud and Squall just mindlessly flow with the situation, Tidus takes the time to make decisions and actually winds up altering the course of events instead of just riding them to their conclusion.

Basically, Tidus is an actual character, rather than a mere avatar for the player, which I would assume you prefer. However, looking at it objectively, it is very clear that Tidus was vastly superior.

I have to disagree with on the second paragraph. I thought Ramza had the most depth out of all the characters. And unlike Tidus he did it without sounding whiny or losing his likeness.

Prak
07-17-2006, 07:45 PM
I did not consider Ramza since I have never had a chance to complete FFT. However, even if he can be held as an example, that does not affect the point of my third paragraph.

Also, I wonder if you ever considered that the way Tidus was so outspoken in complaining about his situation, yet still did what he had to do, spoke even more about the character. Perhaps you didn't notice that he was willing to sacrifice himself to save the world? He knew that if they won, he'd disappear, but he still carried on in spite of it. This is what is known as depth and layers of personality.

Van Finel
07-17-2006, 11:12 PM
I did not consider Ramza since I have never had a chance to complete FFT. However, even if he can be held as an example, that does not affect the point of my third paragraph.

Also, I wonder if you ever considered that the way Tidus was so outspoken in complaining about his situation, yet still did what he had to do, spoke even more about the character. Perhaps you didn't notice that he was willing to sacrifice himself to save the world? He knew that if they won, he'd disappear, but he still carried on in spite of it. This is what is known as depth and layers of personality.


Having depth doesn't stop him from being an unlikeable character.

jewess crabcake
07-18-2006, 02:28 AM
What's wrong with it? well is he a man, right? I swear it looks like I have more balls than him. And he's not a transexual, actually that would explain a lot.
You think you have the balls to fight Sin a mile long flying whale with laser beams :coolegg::whatever:..not likely.Basically all the characters were deep as a rock pool.

Andyuk
07-18-2006, 02:51 AM
The only problems people have with Tidus seem to stem from the voice acting. Or if they demand alpha male leads characters.

That man is a professional voice actor though. The difference could be that he has to mimmick the mouth movements andcharacter movements rather than with a cartoon where they record the voices first.

bastilashanweb
07-18-2006, 09:36 AM
Ok Prak we get it your Tidus lover, bloody hell. Even my fav character Cloud has traits in his character I don't like.


You think you have the balls to fight Sin a mile long flying whale with laser beams

Part of my day job, dont you know. Except I use a sword rather than laser beams. I don't have a problem with the character more of he way he looks, cause I'm superficial like that. WTF is up with his outfit? Man he looks like his personating a Peter Pan from the future, its a mess. I have to say his voice acting was below standards too.

matt1912
07-18-2006, 02:53 PM
i dont think you can critisise the voice acting as mentioned before the person who did tidus' voice actually does it for a living and has done a fair few things before so you cant call him rubbish, if you have a grip about the voice acting take it up with the direction not the acting.

Prak
07-18-2006, 03:42 PM
Having depth doesn't stop him from being an unlikeable character.

I suppose that all depends on the player. Perhaps you haven't noticed, but a lot of people do like the character. I'm afraid liking something is simply a matter of opinion. Even if that opinion is unfathomable to you, it is no less valid. However, the fact of the matter, surpassing any and all personal opinions, is that Tidus was a very well-written character.


Ok Prak we get it your Tidus lover, bloody hell.

What the hell? You officially fail at life. Kindly remove yourself from the gene pool as soon as possible to avoid contaminating it further. The method of removal may include, but is not limited to decapitation, disembowelment, hydrochloric acid enema, a Teletubbies marathon, and insulting an armed scientologist's religion.

matt1912
07-18-2006, 03:53 PM
well said and heres my point about the voice acting

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0852517/

Van Finel
07-18-2006, 07:26 PM
I suppose that all depends on the player. Perhaps you haven't noticed, but a lot of people do like the character. I'm afraid liking something is simply a matter of opinion. Even if that opinion is unfathomable to you, it is no less valid. However, the fact of the matter, surpassing any and all personal opinions, is that Tidus was a very well-written character.



I can agree with that.

yunachick15
07-20-2006, 07:53 AM
Is there going to be a Final Fantasy X-3?

yunachick15
07-20-2006, 07:57 AM
Can someone tell me how I can get a screen saver of Tidus?

bastilashanweb
07-20-2006, 10:22 AM
What the hell? You officially fail at life. Kindly remove yourself from the gene pool as soon as possible to avoid contaminating it further. The method of removal may include, but is not limited to decapitation, disembowelment, hydrochloric acid enema, a Teletubbies marathon, and insulting an armed scientologist's religion.

Ha! Seriously hun, you got wayyyyy too much time on your hands! Get yourself a girlfriend and do us a favour get laid, you need it.

Yuna's_Reincarnation
07-20-2006, 11:13 AM
Is there going to be a Final Fantasy X-3?

no

Chamira
07-20-2006, 11:36 AM
as ive said before many of these style of RPGs as sarah says have slightly or sometimes more feminine looking characters, it is supposidly a way to get the female audience want to play more as well

Really? LOL! Seriously how could anyone think that females would want to play a game because the main male hero looks a little feminine (personally I think everybody is just overeacting a bit...) Thats just silly!

Prak
07-20-2006, 02:52 PM
Ha! Seriously hun, you got wayyyyy too much time on your hands! Get yourself a girlfriend and do us a favour get laid, you need it.

Do you honestly want to pursue such a juvenile argument? If that's your idea of an effective insult, you definitely need more human contact in your life. Friends are a good place to start. If you don't have any, make some. If you have some, spend more time around them and hope a bit of their intelligence rubs off. If they're all dumbasses, you have no hope and should take my previous advice.

Starscream
07-20-2006, 03:05 PM
Ha! Seriously hun, you got wayyyyy too much time on your hands! Get yourself a girlfriend and do us a favour get laid, you need it.

matt1912
07-20-2006, 04:12 PM
Really? LOL! Seriously how could anyone think that females would want to play a game because the main male hero looks a little feminine (personally I think everybody is just overeacting a bit...) Thats just silly!


yeah i dont get it either myself but it is true there is a word for it when animators do it but i cant remember what it is

bastilashanweb
07-20-2006, 05:54 PM
Do you honestly want to pursue such a juvenile argument? If that's your idea of an effective insult, you definitely need more human contact in your life. Friends are a good place to start. If you don't have any, make some. If you have some, spend more time around them and hope a bit of their intelligence rubs off. If they're all dumbasses, you have no hope and should take my previous advice.

lol basically just use my own cuss against me you got props but as said before get yourself a girlfriend, hopefully your not one those old overweight perverts and maybe try, this is too much! HAHA I mean here'a a guy who acts as if he's an adult and come back with childish retorts! Dumbasses?!!
Man I don't use that since I left college! How about tha, now eait one minute,, its true you are the perfect, the most intelligent, the best, what was I thinking in questioning your authority? http://prak.youaremighty.com/ Hmm.. I should have watched this before questioning our all mighty power!

Prak
07-20-2006, 06:04 PM
1. It's called irony. It is often used for humorous or sarcastic effect.

2. How many other useful words did you leave behind?

3. Cute.

jewess crabcake
07-20-2006, 06:04 PM
Someone pin that, that was ...HILARIOUS.

Starscream
07-20-2006, 06:09 PM
lol basically just use my own cuss against me you got props but as said before get yourself a girlfriend, hopefully your not one those old overweight perverts and maybe try, this is too much! HAHA I mean here'a a guy who acts as if he's an adult and come back with childish retorts! Dumbasses?!!
Man I don't use that since I left college! How about tha, now eait one minute,, its true you are the perfect, the most intelligent, the best, what was I thinking in questioning your authority? http://prak.youaremighty.com/ Hmm.. I should have watched this before questioning our all mighty power!
WTF? I could barely read your post, however, in my time here I've learnt to understand retarded speech of brainless oafs and so I could translate your post just fine. Summary of my thoughts = You Fail.

jewess crabcake
07-20-2006, 06:11 PM
WTF? I could barely read your post, however, in my time here I've learnt to understand retarded speech of brainless oafs and so I could translate your post just fine. Summary of my thoughts = You Fail.
Me ?

Starscream
07-20-2006, 06:13 PM
No, I've edited my post because you posted quicker than me. This is a common problem on a site that isn't an instant messaging service.

Van Finel
07-20-2006, 06:13 PM
College?


lol basically just use my own cuss against me you got props, but as said before get yourself a girlfriend, hopefully your not one those old overweight perverts and maybe try, this is too much! HAHA I mean here'a a guy who acts as if he's an adult and come back with childish retorts! Dumbasses?!!
Man, I don't use that since I left college! How about tha, now eait one minute,, its true you are the perfect, the most intelligent, the best, what was I thinking in questioning your authority? http://prak.youaremighty.com/ Hmm.. I should have watched this before questioning our all mighty power!


Where the hell did you go to college? Go back to elementary school and learn to spell.

You fail at life...

Starscream
07-20-2006, 06:15 PM
:laugh: Yeah, I'm extremely surprised that she/he's of that age and cannot spell.

jewess crabcake
07-20-2006, 06:17 PM
Not only spelling, the whole sentence structure is wrong.

Starscream
07-20-2006, 06:21 PM
Precisely, you can usually tell roughly how old someone is by the vocabulary standards and english skills that their posts contain. I'd say bastilashanweb is younger than me, and I'm 14.

bastilashanweb
07-20-2006, 06:29 PM
LOL, So everyone is "ganging" up, lol, anyway I used some english slang, so I "apologize" if no one understood and also you should know some people first language is not english like in my case, I'm from Japan.

Man you really think I care? Not at all, because you guys mean nothing to me, your just a bunch of words on my PC screen, so no ganging up or trying to make me inferior will work.

Starscream
07-20-2006, 06:31 PM
Excellent, we'll continue then.
You fail at life.

jewess crabcake
07-20-2006, 06:39 PM
Nobody's trying to make you feel inferior we're simply commenting on your grammar, be it good or bad.

Prak
07-20-2006, 06:41 PM
For the record, I have made no attacks based on grammar. My retorts are not subjective according to skill in a second language.

bastilashanweb
07-20-2006, 06:52 PM
You fail at life.

Hmm... my 21 year brother, uses retarded cusses such as this. But anyway you say your not trying to make me feel dumb, when you in fact are, so I got an F- for English not being able to string three words together amounts to this. I don't give a shit. Seriuously I want one of you to chat with me in Japanese or Chinese then you can rip my grammar apart.

Starscream
07-20-2006, 07:59 PM
I'm actually more bothered by your retarded points, rather than your grammar. I mean what has your brother got to do with this, I don't give two shits if he makes retarded comments.
Also,
こんにちは、私の名前はStarscreamである。 あなたが締めた今意志。 これは正しいですか?

yunachick15
07-20-2006, 08:13 PM
Ha! Seriously hun, you got wayyyyy too much time on your hands! Get yourself a girlfriend and do us a favour get laid, you need it.
DUDE! Im a chick

Starscream
07-20-2006, 08:15 PM
WTF?

bastilashanweb
07-20-2006, 08:42 PM
Hhayaku inaku nareyo 私をの馬鹿放っておきなさい

Also isn't about time our shift as a crime fighter starts? I sorry its 20:45 time for your bedtime, Mr Grown Up! bet mum has cookies.

yunachick15
07-20-2006, 08:43 PM
Hhayaku inaku nareyo 私をの馬鹿放っておきなさい
What?

yunachick15
07-20-2006, 08:45 PM
WTF?
WHAT!

Starscream
07-20-2006, 08:45 PM
STFU please, this is an educated conversation. :-D


Hhayaku inaku nareyo 私をの馬鹿放っておきなさい
:laugh: I was just messing with you, I can't speak Japanese.

bastilashanweb
07-20-2006, 08:50 PM
Do you got to be rude to everyone you speak to? Man I've lived in England four years and never come across a spoiled obnoxious piece of shit like yourself.

Starscream
07-20-2006, 08:56 PM
Haha @ the moron who can't string together a sentence or form any kind of effective offensive insult. By posting this when I was laying off you, you have FAILED. The ball's in your court to back off now.

yunachick15
07-20-2006, 09:03 PM
Hhayaku inaku nareyo 私をの馬鹿放っておきなさい

Also isn't about time our shift as a crime fighter starts? I sorry its 20:45 time for your bedtime, Mr Grown Up! bet mum has cookies.
Well, at least I can speak Japanese.

Yuna's_Reincarnation
07-20-2006, 09:03 PM
DUDE! Im a chick
who says chick still? god i hate that word

yunachick15
07-20-2006, 09:04 PM
Do you got to be rude to everyone you speak to? Man I've lived in England four years and never come across a spoiled obnoxious piece of shit like yourself.
Im not rude!

yunachick15
07-20-2006, 09:06 PM
no
Are you sure about that?

yunachick15
07-20-2006, 09:08 PM
Squall look like amn ,well thats my opinon, he looks like River Phoneix, the tormented type, dressing metrosexual doesn't mean you look like a girl although I can go on about Tidu's outit, crappy springs to mind.
I LIKE HIS OUTFIT!

Yuna's_Reincarnation
07-20-2006, 09:10 PM
Are you sure about that?

yeah and do u want to use the edit button instead of triple posting

yunachick15
07-20-2006, 09:13 PM
yeah and do u want to use the edit button instead of triple posting
Im new! Im trying here!

bastilashanweb
07-20-2006, 09:13 PM
Yunachick15 my posts aren't aimed at YOU there aimed at Starscream. Its wicked you can speak Japanese. すみません
はじめまして
どうぞよろしく

yunachick15
07-20-2006, 09:16 PM
Yunachick15 my posts aren't aimed at YOU there aimed at Starscream.
Thanks for the update.

Yuna's_Reincarnation
07-20-2006, 09:21 PM
Im new! Im trying here!
hey i'm only trying to help

bastilashanweb
07-20-2006, 09:22 PM
Are you Japanese?

Starscream
07-20-2006, 09:23 PM
Nothing personal now, but take it to Private Messaging.

yunachick15
07-20-2006, 10:44 PM
I suppose that all depends on the player. Perhaps you haven't noticed, but a lot of people do like the character. I'm afraid liking something is simply a matter of opinion. Even if that opinion is unfathomable to you, it is no less valid. However, the fact of the matter, surpassing any and all personal opinions, is that Tidus was a very well-written character.



What the hell? You officially fail at life. Kindly remove yourself from the gene pool as soon as possible to avoid contaminating it further. The method of removal may include, but is not limited to decapitation, disembowelment, hydrochloric acid enema, a Teletubbies marathon, and insulting an armed scientologist's religion.
I like Tidus! Whats wrong with liking Tidus?

Prak
07-20-2006, 10:46 PM
I never said anything was wrong with it.

yunachick15
07-21-2006, 07:47 AM
Oh I get you, I understand them to have "some" femimine qualities like Cloud but to me Tidus looks like a complete woman without breast it was kind of distracting when I was playing.
HE DOES NOT!

yunachick15
07-21-2006, 07:49 AM
Are you Japanese?
No, Im American.

Prak
07-21-2006, 07:17 PM
Please edit your last post if you have more to say instead of making two in a row. Double posting is bad.

Dark_Cloud
07-24-2006, 01:31 AM
Lol. Rofl. Oh what a heated dispute. My opinion, for those who actually give a f**k about the original discussion, is that the feminine characteristics are common in all 'Yoshitaka Amano' artworks. And correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe his conceptual artworks on FFX had a big influence on the character design. I liked his costume. His shoes weren't exactly apropriate for swimming, but they would've been heaven when it came to hiking half way across the world. His character was annoying! In depth, yes, but annoying all the same. I remember the time he said 'Yuna! Aeon!', in a battle. I actually punched the screen. Then I let each of my characters take turns at killing him. I do not strongly aprove of indirect insults towards Yuna or Angels alike. I don't care if it was unintentional. It was also irational and inappropriate!!! "Huff, Puff" ... Lol. Geez. Anyway, I actually like the femininity of FF characters. It gives them a sense of style. Or perhaps gives me a sense of their style. I do like The depth of Tidus's character, and the various similarities we've held in common. Though there have been quite a few times i've seen similarities and felt a bit shamed out. He has both good and bad distinguishing characteristics. One thing I quite like about him is that he's umm... How do you say it. ... Volacious!!! One of those similar traits we both hold in high regard!

Prak:"What the hell? You officially fail at life. Kindly remove yourself from the gene pool as soon as possible to avoid contaminating it further. The method of removal may include, but is not limited to decapitation, disembowelment, hydrochloric acid enema, a Teletubbies marathon, and insulting an armed scientologist's religion."

Lol. LMAO!!!!! OMFG you never cease to amaze me. Outstanding commentry. Lol. F**king brilliant!!!!!