Well i have had my ps2 for a year now and all of a sudden all my blue backed discs dont work eg, timespillters and smugglers run but when i try my dvd disced games like gta3 or gt aspec they work?

Do you know what the problem is?

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Well, i've change my PS2 to a new one :o , it's because the old one is full of dust that it can make*Hang* each time i play it.

Maybe your PS2 is dirty(full of dust)....so, try to clean it.Also, put the console on a higher place like a table or something like that.:rolleyes:

Your laser might be messed up... did the CD's work before? Is there any loading problems with a DVD? Do PSOne CD's work?

Is it possible that you have the Dreamcast to PS2 conversion? Because that seems to be the problem with PS2 games played on Dreamcast.

-LuluRikku

Originally posted by LuluRikku
Is it possible that you have the Dreamcast to PS2 conversion? Because that seems to be the problem with PS2 games played on Dreamcast.


Is there really such a thing as a DC to PS2 Conversion? If there was one... well first it must be one of those stuff made from deep within China (aka, it's a cheap piece of cowpie) and the quality would be ULTRA cheep (DC vs PS2... well, PS2 has more processing power...). Eh, whatever...

Anyways, I found out a problem... and the answer might not be something you would like...

From what I heard, some PS2s work with CDs for awhile... then they would suddenly won't read it at all. The DVDs still work fine (since it's optimized for DVDs) but the CDs won't work for jack...

The only thing I heard to fix this is to get a new one... or replace it. Hopefully your PS2 is still in warranty =P

Well, thats my answer... I'm not saying that might be THE answer...

I'm going to assume you mean plying DC games on the PS2. but DC is GD. . . PS2 is DVD. . .maybe you meant PS on DC. so I don't know whats going on. If you have a warranty get it switched.

No. PS2 games can play on Dreamcast, with an attachment. I've mentioned this before. (I think you guys are faking it). ;)

There's an attachment sold (illegally?) to fit on a Dreamcast that allows you to play Playstation2 games on the Dreamcast (since Dreamcast is extinct and you can't do anything with it anyway). BUT - there seems to be a problem with the blue dics.

It's a cheaper alternative, you can get a Dreamcast for like $80 and the attachment is $20 (?) (I'm guessing), so people who really want a PS2 but can't afford $300 will get a $100 alternative.

I personally don't think it's such a bargain, because you can't watch DVD's, you don't get the same quality of graphics (because of the conversion)

Personally, I like my PS2. I just hooked it up to a Sony surround sound system. It kicks ass!!!!!

-LuluRikku

yeah, I don't believe this PS2 playing attachment exists, but if you can visit liksang and throw some proof up here or something, feel free.


I can't imagine why people would want to play PS2 in super slo-mo.


The dreamcast has the amazing ability to continue to play all of the games that were made for it previously and is, therefore, not useless.

You don't have to believe it exists, but it does. I know lot's of 19/20 year olds who are playing FFX on their Dreamcast. I'm not interested in exposing this illegal ring (that's apparently your interest, you can find the proof yourself and prosecute them, or whatever you want to do).

Is PS2 better? YES.

...and in my opinion - Sega Dreamcast is a failed venture, I think it's a crime that they sell them at full price, when they aren't making any more Dreamcasts OR games for it anymore. Totally useless.

-LuluRikku

I suppose PS2 is more powerful. certainly not better. not yet anyways.


but there wouldn't be anything illegal about playing a PS2 game on the Dreamcast. not anything wrong with it anyways. As long as they're still buying the games they play. if they want to play FFX on the DC, I can just laugh at them. It must be a 200 hour game on that system. The code doesn't change, so it should be running in super slo-mo, which is why I'm convinced you're lying(ignoring all the whole idea of DVDs in a GD player)

but I'll head over to lik-sang and gamechoice club myself and see.




They don't sell DCs at full price. not in the US anymore. Anyways, its not worth complaining about. Fact is, there is enough quality on the system for it to be worth full price.



CPU: 128 Bit "Emotion Engine"
System Clock: 300 MHz
System Memory: 32 MB Direct Rambus
Memory Bus Bandwidth: 3.2 GB per second
Co-Processor: FPU (FPMA x 1, FPD x 1)
Vector Units: VU0 and VU1 (FPA x 9, FPD x 1)
Floating Point Performance: 6.2 GFLOPS
3D CG GT: 66 million Polygons Per Second
Compressed Image Decoder: MPEG2
Graphics: "Graphics Synthesizer"

*sigh* I personally think that you HAVE a dreamcast, the way you defend it so much. (gross).

... AND you probably have that attachment and you tell people you have a PS2 which is why it's so important to you to make it look like I'm not telling the truth - instead of that YOU'RE lying because you don't have a PS2.

-LuluRikku

OK Rezo, here's one "Legal" clue. I can't find the illegal stuff.

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Article link here: (http://www.ugo.com/channels/games/dreamcast/default.asp?SectionID=31&ArticleId=6123)

Bleeming the Cube
Filed: 8/10
We are big fans of software that let us play games the best way we can. That�s probably why we have always loved bleem!, an emulation package that lets you play PlayStation games on the PC. Now, bleem! is offering PlayStation owners a better alternative: the Dreamcast. With the new version for Dreamcast, gamers can pop in titles like Tekken 3 with sharper graphics and quicker load times. After seeing these comparison screenshots, we�re impressed. Perhaps the Dreamcast isn�t a doorstop, after all?
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This is just a legal item that allows you to play Playstation games on Dreamcast. There's an illegal attachment that allows for PS2.

-LuluRikku

Hm, someone up there said that the ps2 is more powerful then the dreamcast, yet isn't as good? That makes no sence.

How "good" a console is is deturmaned by its specs, and the ps2 does have more power then the dreamcast therefor it IS better.

The games put on the systems are deturmaned by the companys that make them, not the system, so it doesn't have anything to do with the games.

At least, above is how i rate a system. Doesn't mean i will buy it, i look at the maker of it, and they're previous success. Sega doesn't have a good 'record' on success, so i dare not buy anything from them. I haven't seen that many games on it that i might like anyways, then again i don't look.

Anyway, lets get back on subject, try to help this person since i have no idea how to. Enough about this "secret ps2 game playing dreamcast" stuff. Start another thread about it if ya want :)

:alien:

Originally posted by LuluRikku
*sigh* I personally think that you HAVE a dreamcast, the way you defend it so much. (gross).

... AND you probably have that attachment and you tell people you have a PS2 which is why it's so important to you to make it look like I'm not telling the truth - instead of that YOU'RE lying because you don't have a PS2.


Well, with my current knowledge (and my dumb friend's money), he has this attachment for the DC (cost me 3 bucks at this one import store)... though it can't play DVDs... nor can it play CD games really well.

One game we tested this on (Dynasty Warriors 2, it being a CD), it turns out that.... eh forget details, it was UDDER CRAP. I've seen better attachments, heck, the Gameboy to PSX attachment is 100 times better than this... despite the fact that it only plays 1 outta 7 games.

And LuluRikku... you have nothing to prove, I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE A DREAMCAST.... hell, I might even say that you have a PSX that plays PS2 games. I don't really care.

The point is, never assume... you'll make an ass out of you and me. =P

Oh and all that other stuff about you.... I just won't say anything about them... maybe except "My name means nothing under a piece of work or title... my name means a lot when I'm respected as a normal Shriner."

In other words.... maybe you shouldn't ask people to put your name under your work... who is really gonna look at it anyways? We aren't in competition here ya know.

Oh and all that other stuff about you....
What other stuff?


I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE A DREAMCAST
No, Dreamcast sucks.


In other words.... maybe you shouldn't ask people to put your name under your work... who is really gonna look at it anyways? We aren't in competition here ya know.
Where did all this come from?

-LuluRikku

I'm not gonna go to details about this... I'm just gonna point at the Banner Thread over at the Help Fourm.

Anyways, going back on topic... well actually the topic is kinda over... I guess I'll give one more answer.

If you can play your PSone CDs on the PS2 but can't play PS2 CDs... then your PS2 is messed up and should be replaced right away. The early PS2 systems had some problems... some small problems... nothing widespread really.

Well... again, my answer, not the answer. Gonna go play the Dreamcast.

Great games + Bad Systems = Sega

And to add on...

The Sega Dreamcast is my 2nd Sega System... I don't really give a damn if Sega sucked. Nintendo died out on the N64... who cares... I got a Gamecube (well going to get one...) and I'm gonna play it. I won't get an X-Box.... not because of Microsoft... it's because of the games...

If I had a choice between choosing CvS2 for PS2 or Dreamcast, I would get the PS2, only because of the controls... if I had a PSX to DC controler converter (they do exist cause I have one) I would get the DC.

Systems are the storytellers... they could only hear so many stories... others don't like the story and never tells it... others want to spread the story to other storytellers. Some explain the story better than others... I'm just a listener who likes to hear every version of it.

As I said, it wouldn't be able to play DVDs, and it would be slow as hell. unless you have a serious love for puzzle games. I was not aware of FFX being CD, but who knows, I don't own it.

anyways, what I was intending to do earlier
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PS2

quote: CPU: 128 Bit "Emotion Engine"
System Clock: 300 MHz
System Memory: 32 MB Direct Rambus
Memory Bus Bandwidth: 3.2 GB per second
Co-Processor: FPU (FPMA x 1, FPD x 1)
Vector Units: VU0 and VU1 (FPA x 9, FPD x 1)
Floating Point Performance: 6.2 GFLOPS
3D CG GT: 66 million Polygons Per Second
Compressed Image Decoder: MPEG2
Graphics: "Graphics Synthesizer"



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CPU: Hitachi SH-4 128bit 200Mhz
Graphics Processor: NEC/VideoLogic PowerVR
Main RAM: 16Mb
Memory bandwith: 3.2Gb/sec
Graphics RAM: 8Mb
Theoretical performance: 3 million polygons
Estimated performance: 1.5 million polygons



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feel free to do the math yourself. I'll assume this $3 device does not include a processor to help with graphics, or more megs of ram, and is crippled in speed because it has to emulate PS2 circumstances. owning such a device is a waste.

Who is not aware of Bleem? you shouldn't of even bothered searching for it.


my favorite system(that i think is "better" than all other systems) is the famicom. based on the library. I did not say it was more powerful, which is what you seemed to be inferring. I base this on the library. So I would say that the famicom has the best library and therefore is the best system to have. The Dreamcast currently has a better library than the PS2, and will for a while. PS2 should pass it eventually.

I'm surprised Lik-Sang didn't have the device up. perhaps they don't deal in crap.

Rezo,

Maybe it is crap. I think it's probably illegal, and that's why they don't sell it on an online retail store. I'm not a technical expert, I was trying to shed some light on why this guy couldn't read the blue discs. The people that I know who have the gadget I described, complain about the same problem.

-LuluRikku

Well, it's THEIR problem, this is another person's problem. Let THEM handle that stuff by themselves. This is US, not THEM. And besides, half of everything they sell on Lik-sang IS illegal. It may be the same PROBLEM, but the CAUSE maybe different.

So CAN IT! and try to help with THIS problem.

And besides, half of everything they sell on Lik-sang IS illegal.


this was my thought. Its a hong kong shop is it not? as is gamechoice club.



Squeh. I don't know why the blue discs wouldn't work. It seems odd for one to work fine, and another type not too.

Ya, I agree with Rezo. I don't understand why some would work and some wouldn't on a normal Playstation2.

and DJMogK' you wrote a guide to being a perfect shriner - and in that you asked that people should be nice to each other...yelling at me to "can it" doesn't fall under that definition does it? Anyway, I don't know why you're so upset, but it seems to be personal, so I'll let it go.

-LuluRikku

Yes, I did state we should be nice to people... but then again, there are different kinds of nice... I am being nice... and I don't really think it's nice to quickly assume things. I also don't think it's nice bagging on a good system without a good reason.

Okay, as for the stuff I said in the begining...

Quote 1- That stuff about you...

Well, I didn't really mind for awhile... heck, I hated people that had big egos... then I heard what was going on in the Banner Thread... trying to make friends and acting all "Please give me proper credit" and all that. I laughed at the thought, And like I said, I didn't really mind. Then I heard about the PMs going around... eh kinda bothered me a bit... I dunno why... continued on with life. Then I actually decide to read one of your posts...

Lets just say I was cracking up... seeing...


-LuluRikku

I mean... whats the point of that? Put that in your sig or something! And you seem to be repeating every Paragraph or so...

Then I read this...


...Is it possible that you have the Dreamcast to PS2 conversion? Because that seems to be the problem with PS2 games played on Dreamcast...

I laughed at the idea of a person ACUTALLY using a Dreamcast to PS2 converter... I mean... unless your a poor idiot that is retarded... that is.

I bought the conversion (for 3 bucks) as a joke. I wanted to see it in action... it was quite funny.

Well back to the thing. I read it... laughed. And I know for a fact that some PS2 do have a problem of not playing CD games for awhile. It happened to some of my friends... but it turned out that simple CD Lens cleaner will work on it.

So yeah. explained quote 1.

Quote 2.... I explained it in the first paragraph.

Quote 3- That was a long while ago... you being "the BEST" (read: The big-ego-like) banner maker... but I'll stop there.

Dj MogK',

I just have to clarify that I wasn't talking about the $3 item you're talking about. Call me all the names you want, but I've seen the Dreamcast play FFX at my friend's house. The end.

-LuluRikku

(I'm no ego maniac about my sigs, I never said (or thought) I was the best. Plus, everyone gets credit for the banners they make...Nymph Van Tassel, Krelian, Kayin Vanderkill, and One Winged Angel all get credit, that doesn't mean they're ego maniacs just because they want people to know they put some hard work into making someone else's signature.)

Originally posted by LuluRikku
Dj MogK',

I just have to clarify that I wasn't talking about the $3 item you're talking about. Call me all the names you want, but I've seen the Dreamcast play FFX at my friend's house. The end.

-LuluRikku

(I'm no ego maniac about my sigs, I never said (or thought) I was the best. Plus, everyone gets credit for the banners they make...Nymph Van Tassel, Krelian, Kayin Vanderkill, and One Winged Angel all get credit, that doesn't mean they're ego maniacs just because they want people to know they put some hard work into making someone else's signature.)

1. I never said ANYTHING about you talking about the 3 dollar attachment.

2. You made it seem so, yes they do give credit for the sigs they do... but notice you say (at least early) "Please give credit for the sigs" And you also seem to use italics VERY often... and... I'll just continue this in a PM, you'll be hearing from me soon...

Well i have had my ps2 for a year now and all of a sudden all my blue backed discs dont work eg, timespillters and smugglers run but when i try my dvd disced games like gta3 or gt aspec they work?

Do you know what the problem is?

aye the problem is that the blue discs r lighter than the sliver back so the blue discs tend to move around in the ps2 the thing i did lol i put a disc protecter in front of the cd and it made a sound but it played but if u wanna play with a muscle car sound that get annoying

Welcome to 6 years ago

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow you are now the biggest noob EVER.

Man, can you imagine if some random dude you'd never met responded to something you'd said six years ago in a random debate in real life?

It would be hilarious.