Yes, so like i've been hearing a lot of good bands lately and i think all of you pop-punk fans (Mossy, T.K, Bigfoot) would like them :)

Pickled Dick

http://www.purevolume.com/pickleddick
www.myspace.com/pickleddick

Random Heroes

www.purevolume.com/randomheroesuk

ALSO: Have anyone heard of The Ramainz? altough their only album is old it's still pretty amazing, it's Dee Dee Ramone on vocals, Barbara Ramone on Bass and vocals( yes female vocals on Ramones song) and Marky Ramone, it's an amazing one-time only reunion for a live show and it shows that the Ramones spirit is alive, and ifrc it's one of the last shows perfomed by Dee Dee

Now what about the Violent Femmes and Zeke =(

Yeah, I know about the Ramainz, but I tend to not really like any of the rehashes of old Ramones material that were done by ex members of the band (I feel the same way about the Dee Dee material.) It's okay, but when it comes down to it I don't really think anything can ever get better than the first two Ramones live albums.

That pickle whatever band wasn't up my alley. Sounds like one more attempted Fat Wreck band to me. Random Heroes are pretty good though. They have an edge. Not surprising since the influences they list are vastly superior! This is a good find.

<a href=www.myspace.com/itwontletmeusethenameshortattention>This band</a> is completely awesome. I think in about three years, every good pop-punk band in America is going to be the same people in New York.

Yeah, I know about the Ramainz, but I tend to not really like any of the rehashes of old Ramones material that were done by ex members of the band (I feel the same way about the Dee Dee material.) It's okay, but when it comes down to it I don't really think anything can ever get better than the first two Ramones live albums.

That pickle whatever band wasn't up my alley. Sounds like one more attempted Fat Wreck band to me. Random Heroes are pretty good though. They have an edge. Not surprising since the influences they list are vastly superior! This is a good find.

<a href=www.myspace.com/itwontletmeusethenameshortattention>This band</a> is completely awesome. I think in about three years, every good pop-punk band in America is going to be the same people in New York.

Well i never heard the solo material from Dee Dee Ramone, but the Ramainz album sounded fine to me altough it can't compare to Loco Live or It's Alive which are clearly superior, since Dee Dee usually slows the songs a bit.

Yes, after a second list Picklead Dick is a bit generic, i found another band that altough worse than Random heroes imo, is still good:

Captain everything!
http://www.myspace.com/captaineverything

Also Short Attention are great i bet that the leadsinger is from teh Ergs!

double post :(

Captain Everything are awesome. They played at our local venue a few months back, along with Jesse James, before they were semi-big.

It was a good night.

Captain Everything are awesome. They played at our local venue a few months back, along with Jesse James, before they were semi-big.

It was a good night.

You are lucky ;(

Also my new wallpaper for my computer is from The Flaming Lips

The Lips could be relevant to this thread, also. If we're talking about 83-88, they were quite punkish indeed. Then again, it wasn't pop punk at all, really.

But, ftr, this is mine:

(http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=background4am.jpg)

Like I've already said T66, I am in an odd mood and don't feel like listening to any of these bands because, due to my mood, I probably won't appreciate them. The only bands I seem to be able to listen to at the minute are British Sea Power, Joy Division, the Flaming Lips and Belle & Sebastian. I have however followed two of the links, I'm not sure which two, and what I heard was okay.

This is my background: ^_^ ()

lol Mossy is an indie fag now

<font size=1 color=pink>~*X*~no u r teh fgt lol~*X*~ ^_~</font>

lol Mossy is an indie fag now

I refuse to ever catergorize The Flaming Lips as indie.

Ever.

Ever.

I refuse to ever catergorize The Flaming Lips as indie.

Ever.

Ever.

Also you got tickets to the Lips live, i envy you ;-;;;

Also i just found out that the best song of The Ramones tribute album: We're A Happy Family is an Eddie Vedder song, A Pretenders Song, and a Pete Yorn Song..... well it's a weak album overall ;-;;

I refuse to ever catergorize The Flaming Lips as indie.

Ever.

Ever.

YOU MUST BE ONE OF THEM TOO

YOU MUST BE ONE OF THEM TOO

Lewis is clearly in denial ;(

T.K. just likes to shout "indie!" at people. ;)

I'm even keener on shouting "anachronism!" at them but that is so rarely applicable ;(

I'm even keener on shouting "anachronism!" at them but that is so rarely applicable ;(

:O Probably! Hm....although.....maybe Jester?

YOU MUST BE ONE OF THEM TOO

..But I'm not!_!


I'm even keener on shouting "anachronism!" at them but that is so rarely applicable ;(

;(

I refuse to ever catergorize The Flaming Lips as indie.

Ever.

Ever.
Or Joy Division.

Maybe BSP at a stretch. Maybe

TK is just being poop and latching onto B&S though ;(

I wouldn't count any of those bands as "indie," not even B&S. Also: I dislike all those bands. They all suck.

I wouldn't count any of those bands as "indie," not even B&S. Also: I dislike all those bands. They all suck.

They don't suck ;(

Also do you have any news on Lost Locker combo :O?

Yes: the news on Lost Locker Combo is that Philly is a shit city.

why is that? :O

People here like shitty music.

I am searching, though. Searching for the right men and women.

I wouldn't count any of those bands as "indie," not even B&S. Also: I dislike all those bands. They all suck.

Why do you dislike The Flaming Lips and Belle and Sebastian?

Take this to PM if you don't want this thread to be bastardized :(

They are boring!

B&S aren't indie, they are twee-pop. They are also awesome.

The Flaming Lips however, are gobshite!

Dear Meph,

You suck.

Love, Meph.




Also TK how are they boring! Flaming Lips in particular!

They don't move enough + sound too faggy + too much art and not enough rock.

<a href=http://www.myspace.com/thisismyfist>Here</a> is a fucking awesome pop punk band called This Is My Fist! I am seeing them tomorrow night with The Ergs and the Low Budgets and I'm pretty stoked, to say the least.

Well i'm hearing This Is My Fist and i'm really enjoying it, T.K your so damn lucky ;( i wish i could see The Ergs! & Low Budgets :(

They don't move enough + sound too faggy + too much art and not enough rock.



The Flaming Lips have moved more than you'll ever know, seriously. They've been around since 1983, right.

"Hear it Is" combines beautiful sounding songs with raw punk.

"Oh My Gawd!!" - Is progressive, experimental rock with elements of punk.

"Telepathic Surgery" - Retains Punk-ish conventions, but sounds fuzzier, and introduces collages of noise.

"In a Priest Driven Ambulance" - Has a completely different guitarist and drummer, producing a more creative, yet fierce approach.

"Hit to Death in the Future Head" - Incorporated a more experimental side to the Lips noise wise, along with bits and pieces like Orhcestra's being unconventionally included.

"Transmissions from the Satellite Heart" - Is slightly more commercial. Slightly. Less punk, slightly more melodic but still fuzzy guitar/rock album with catchier beats.

"Clouds Taste Metallic" - Is again easier to listen to. Very much 85% melodies with acoustic guitar, and the occasional aspect of noise and more dancy tunes.

"Soft Bulletin" - More keyboard, more commercially successful, more approachable lyrics. Much less guitar.

"Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots" - Combines fantastical ideologies, with magical and melodic acoustic riffs, much softer vocals, and more playful drumming. This is also a semi-concept album.

"At War With the Mystics" - Maximises use of both Guitar effects and keyboard. The most commercially succesful album. More chill-out side to them, is also noticeable. A much more danceable album.

This is just a quick overview. They've gone from Raw Punk, to Aggresive/Fuzzy Rock, to Progressive/Punk, All whilst becoming more experimental with sounds and noise, then onto becoming slightly more melodic and easy listening, then 100% melodic, and then maximised use of Keyboards and Guitars creates a 100% alternate rock feel to them.

While they haven't particulalry moved from an "Alternative" tag, they've moved far more than many, MANY other bands. Listen to all the albums if you need proof. Or ask Mossy, TC, Duo or T66.

Sounds faggy? .. Well I don't have much to say about this.

What's wrong with Art and Rock being combined? There's not too much art here at all in my opinion.

tweepop is generally considered a subgenre of "INDIE". well, really real indie is stuff like animal collective and max tundra in the kind of odd, experimental never-gonna-be-on-a-big-record-label sense, probably. b&s and the flaming lips are part of a specific genre which happens to be *called* indie by most people and which I myself enjoy but might not be especially true to the general idea of early indie

indie is a really stupid genre anyways

and i thought you liked b&s, tk? ^~ and claiming the flaming lips have not changed only indicated you havent heard an awful lot of their music, tbqh. the difference between the first three albums and the last three is pretty huge.

We're being assaulted by Tweepop fans!!!!


Not tha i don't like it ;(

I never said that they haven't changed, I said they don't move enough, by which I mean I don't think that the music... moves... enough. Like, with moving. It's just a word I thought up for what I was trying to express. If I had to pick one of the statements above I'd say NOT ENOUGH ROCK.

Tbh all that stuff is irrelevant to me, I've simply never heard any Flaming Lips stuff I found interesting.

I used to like B&S. I used to like a lot of that sort of stuff. Can't really listen to it anymore though. There was a time when I probably would have liked the Flaming Lips, I suppose.

free radicals has ROCK in it but it is freakin godawful. the new fl album ain't great.

anyways, hey, there's no account for taste eh. is that a saying? something like that.

free radicals has ROCK in it but it is freakin godawful. the new fl album ain't great.

anyways, hey, there's no account for taste eh. is that a saying? something like that.

At War With The Magicians actually grew on me and i think it's a good album not SB or Yoshimi but still good

I never said that they haven't changed, I said they don't move enough, by which I mean I don't think that the music... moves... enough. Like, with moving. It's just a word I thought up for what I was trying to express. If I had to pick one of the statements above I'd say NOT ENOUGH ROCK.

hoho OK~


Tbh all that stuff is irrelevant to me, I've simply never heard any Flaming Lips stuff I found interesting.

No, all I was trying to do was make the point that they have moved, musically. I wasn't trying to sell them to you or anything.

the new fl album ain't great.

I didn't like it as much when I first bought it, but I have since decided that it holds up to the Soft Bulletin and Yoshimi perfectly well. I listen to it tons ;(

In retrospect it's actually pretty hilarious that you thought I meant they didn't change enough, because most of the time I tend to like it a lot if a band does more or less exactly the same thing for the entirety of their careers. Usually if bands change I don't like them anymore.

In retrospect it's actually pretty hilarious that you thought I meant they didn't change enough, because most of the time I tend to like it a lot if a band does more or less exactly the same thing for the entirety of their careers. Usually if bands change I don't like them anymore.

Agreed. Examples of that would be: Red Hot Chilli Peppers(latest album, oh dear...) and Oasis. Bands that stay the same are the ones I like the most too. Shows they are consistent and stay true to what they are all about.

In retrospect it's actually pretty hilarious that you thought I meant they didn't change enough, because most of the time I tend to like it a lot if a band does more or less exactly the same thing for the entirety of their careers. Usually if bands change I don't like them anymore.

But what if they changed for the better?

Rarely happens!

It's possible though.

I know you say you'd rather bands stayed sorta the same, like.

But, surely if they maintain the convention that made them them, they could expand musically without any 'harm' done?

I think it's kind of silly to expect what a band is about to remain static over the course of a decade+ and afaics it (the fact that they have at some point chaged) has nothing to do with whether or not you like their current sound, or their sound for a specific

23 years

I quite like it when a band experiments =/

i meant in general lewis~

Thought you did.

I know you say you'd rather bands stayed sorta the same, like.

But, surely if they maintain the convention that made them them, they could expand musically without any 'harm' done?

Sure. I would consider that staying the same. Obviously when I say I like it when bands stay the same, I don't mean I want them to play the same song over and over again. Variety is the spice of life and all that. Mainly it's that convention that you're talking about.


I think it's kind of silly to expect what a band is about to remain static over the course of a decade+ and afaics it (the fact that they have at some point chaged) has nothing to do with whether or not you like their current sound, or their sound for a specific

I don't "expect" any bands to remain static. I just like it when they do. In my experience, when bands "evolve" or "experiment," it usually means they are doing something I don't like anymore. As I've said, though, this is not automatically the case.

I don't "expect" any bands to remain static.

hah, knew you were going to say that.

but there's no reason a band who you used to dislike could change into something you liked. surely it has more to do with the nature of the evolution than the fact that it occured?

Sure. I would consider that staying the same. Obviously when I say I like it when bands stay the same, I don't mean I want them to play the same song over and over again. Variety is the spice of life and all that. Mainly it's that convention that you're talking about.

Well, that's all the Flaming Lips did tbh. I know you like "zany" punk, so you should at least try and give "Oh My Gawd" a listen. If you don't like it then it's fine - But I do agree that Variety is the spice of life, because it is. As long as a band retains what initially made them good/original it wouldn't matter.

hah, knew you were going to say that.

but there's no reason a band who you used to dislike could change into something you liked. surely it has more to do with the nature of the evolution than the fact that it occured?

Sure, that's possible, though I can't think of any examples. I'm a fan of consistency. I'm quite picky when it comes to music, so when I find something I like, I really like it, and I want to have as much of it as possible. If significant changes are made there's a good chance I won't like it anymore.

An example of a bands "evolving" and me liking it would be the Weakerthans and Dirt Bike Annie. No others come to me off the top of my head, but I am sure there are some.

I feel unsettled by the fact I have not contributed to this topic.

SO, unlike other people in this thread, I am capable of liking both pop-punk and indie-fag music AT THE SAME TIME. clearly I am of the finest musical taste.

Other bands who have remained better or even improved through evolving, imo: Propagandhi, The Mountain Goats, Tom Waits.

i thought i had something else to add but yeah i forget what

Agree about Propagandhi, disagree about Mountain Goats (although I actually don't even like them at all anymore), indifferent to Tom Waits.

I think it's neat when bands experiment, but there are bands and artists who've done the same thing for ages and stayed pretty great.

Ben Folds is one of my favorites, and with the exception of the stuff he did with William Shatner, he's basically stuck to doing the same sort of tunes that were on the first Ben Folds Five album. His last album is probably my least favorite, but there were some great tunes on it, and he still continues to put out lots of great singles and eps.

also: ~descendants~

Shatner is awesome :(

Since I am out of indiefag mode, I listened to these bands this morning. In general I liked all of the artists okay, though there are also things I could criticise them on but I am feeling really lazy and can't be bothered with typing a proper response.

=(

Since I am out of indiefag mode, I listened to these bands this morning. In general I liked all of the artists okay, though there are also things I could criticise them on but I am feeling really lazy and can't be bothered with typing a proper response.

=(

I love you for being out of indie fag mode :-*

stfu >:

stfu >:

flaming lips aren't indie so....their not indie fag ;(

But Belle and Sebastian ;-;;

But Belle and Sebastian ;-;;

tweepop not indie ;(

Fine ;-;

indie rox my sox

<a href=http://www.myspace.com/spookeyrock>The best band ever</a>.

<a href=http://www.myspace.com/spookeyrock>The best band ever</a>.

Quite like it, and probably one of the few pop-punk bands that could actually end up playing here.

Also The John Stamos Project:

http://www.thejohnstamosproject.com/sounds.html

<a href=http://www.myspace.com/spookeyrock>The best band ever</a>.
Haha ;O

I probably like this band a whole lot more than I ought to.

What. There is not more than you ought to when it comes to Spookey.

When I followed the link I didn't expect that I would like them in the slightest. So when I did enjoy their music I was pleasantly surprised, though ought probably isn't the right word.

ANYWAY, SURELY I OUGHTN'T LIKE ANY BAND YOU LIKE SINCE I'M AN INDIE FAG :FUKKENROLL:

sorry wrong topic lol

not my pot of tea

TODAY IS HAPPY HAPPY SUNDAY

how can you not love this.