Alvinz
07-05-2006, 12:12 PM
What is a good Free MMORPG besides WoW on a private server?

TK
07-05-2006, 04:20 PM
Well WoW isn't free, so I don't know why you are saying besides WoW.

There are no good free MMORPGs. Creating and maintaining something that huge takes a hell of a lot of money, and the only way it's possible really is if the the players are all paying for it. Any free one you find is likely to be garbage, I'd wager.

I don't know why you'd want to play those things anyway though. They will suck the hours of life away into oblivion and you will be dead to everything else. =(

MossY
07-05-2006, 06:56 PM
Well WoW isn't free, so I don't know why you are saying besides WoW.
I remember some weird guy added me to MSN or AIM and was talking about WoW and how he was 1337 at it, to which I replied that I didn't like the idea of continually paying for a game even after I have paid the initial �40 or something along those lines. Then he said that you could play it on private servers for free, which is what I guess Alvinz is talking about. Here is a list of them IN CASE YOU ARE INTERESTED: http://www.wowstatus.net/serverlist.php


I don't know why you'd want to play those things anyway though. They will suck the hours of life away into oblivion and you will be dead to everything else. =(
Agreein'

Denny
07-05-2006, 07:00 PM
I`d say Guild Wars but it only held my attention for a week. Still, MMORPGs are very tedious and repetitive for me anyway.

ROKI
07-05-2006, 07:03 PM
Runescape :P:P:P:P:P :D

Tact
07-05-2006, 08:16 PM
MapleStory (the best imo. totally original)
Silkroad
Fly for Fun
guild wars. just buy the game. and its free online play for life.

MogKnight
07-05-2006, 11:33 PM
Guild Wars isn't an MMORPG... But lets not talk about definitions about genre.

RO has a bunch of private servers. Try that.

Tact
07-06-2006, 03:27 AM
really? O_o please explain. i'm a total noob if i coudln't see the diffrence of that. :p

here are my "ideas" of what an mmo is


basically, its like an rpg, where you make your own character, get to choose between jobs, and lvl up. all done online only.

you could probably IMAGINE diablo II as an mmo, but since you CAN play offline, it doesn't count.

gw CANNOT be played offline. also, nearly every mmo source/authority categorizes it as an mmo. (like g4/techtv lol) so what are you smoking, mog?

Alvinz
07-06-2006, 10:46 AM
well silk is technially a MMO not an MMORPG because they say they are a MMO. Im currently playing it'

Yea ive tried RO playing on a private server. It was really fun coz i played with my brother and a couple of friends. Until the server thing got scrwed and the backupfiles didn't work and i lost my character :(

Prak
07-06-2006, 03:38 PM
Tact, most of Guild Wars is played in instances. You only see other people in the central areas, so "massively multiplayer" just doesn't seem very applicable. On top of that, the ability to hire NPCs to work with you further degrades the multiplayer aspect.

Also, Diablo II could NEVER be counted as an MMORPG because the number of players it can support in a single game is far too low.

Alvinz
07-06-2006, 03:49 PM
I don't know why you'd want to play those things anyway though. They will suck the hours of life away into oblivion and you will be dead to everything else. =(

Hours of life away into oblivion? Thats only for computer geeks. Playing maybe 1 or 2 hours a week is a-ok!

Prak
07-06-2006, 04:02 PM
But if you play that little, you don't really get your money's worth out of it, so it's pointless.

Denny
07-06-2006, 04:06 PM
Hooboy, Oblivion. :D

I think i`d die a happy pappy once i get it 100% complete.

TK
07-06-2006, 05:36 PM
Hours of life away into oblivion? Thats only for computer geeks. Playing maybe 1 or 2 hours a week is a-ok!

One or two hours a week? Are you serious? Nobody plays Warcraft one or two hours a week. You might resolve to do that, and that will crumble as soon as you realize that all you have to do to go up another level is kill fifty more of some green things or whatever and that will only take until 3 A.M.

As Prak said, if by some miracle you can regulate yourself so well that you only play one or two hours a week, you'd be ripping yourself off. If that's all you want to do, just get Neverwinter Nights or something and play online with people occasionally. There's no reason to play an MMORPG unless you are going to spend hours on end at it.

PontiusPilate
07-06-2006, 06:26 PM
Guild Wars is the closest thing you'll find. Runescape sucks IMO

Psycho_Cyan
07-06-2006, 06:48 PM
Guild Wars isn't exactly great, either, though.

Prak
07-06-2006, 06:51 PM
Very true. I tried it and hated it almost immediately.

Still, it might make a decent enough introduction to MMORPGs, even if it isn't very good. I'd recommend City of Heroes over GW as a jumping-on point, but it carries a monthly fee.

PontiusPilate
07-06-2006, 08:34 PM
i thought it was a good start for people just starting MMORPG's

jewess crabcake
07-06-2006, 09:12 PM
Guild wars is your best bet if you have cable or dsl dowload the client and go to limewire and downloaD an access key but i actually bought the game i wish i hadn't because of factions i need a new video card.

MogKnight
07-06-2006, 10:11 PM
really? O_o please explain. i'm a total noob if i coudln't see the diffrence of that. :p

here are my "ideas" of what an mmo is


basically, its like an rpg, where you make your own character, get to choose between jobs, and lvl up. all done online only.

you could probably IMAGINE diablo II as an mmo, but since you CAN play offline, it doesn't count.

gw CANNOT be played offline. also, nearly every mmo source/authority categorizes it as an mmo. (like g4/techtv lol) so what are you smoking, mog?

Okay. Guild Wars is for a fact online only. How does that make it an MMORPG though? Adventure Quest, I believe you've heard of that game, is online only as well. Would you count that as an MMORPG? Granted you don't play with anyone else in Adventure Quest (thus removing the MM part), it is an online RPG.

Second, a MMORPG would be defined as a game where everything takes place in one world. By one world, I mean one playing field. This is not to be confused with the various servers that WoW or FFXI host btw. Diablo and Guild Wars work almost exactly the same way: Central Hub -> P2P Hosted Game (though I think Blizzard actually hosts the server for the game.)

What I mean by Central Hub is that Guild Wars will have a server with an instance of the said town or outpost (Lion's Arch for example). Players connect to Lion's Arch and thus will be connected to every single person who is connected to that central hub. However, it is simply a central hub and no real player interaction can be done except for trading, partying up and chatting.

Once you form a party and leave town, you are no longer connected to a server hosted by Guild Wars. Instead, you will still be connected to the Guild Wars network but only for transmitting data such as EXP, inventory, friend's list, etc etc. Now this becomes more like Diablo, you're now connected to a party member's server OR you're the host of the server itself. You have no real connection to anyone outside of that instance area, only by whisper functions and that's it. Your friend, who is in the same zone but because of separate instances, does not exist. It's not an MMORPG because there's nothing massively multiplayer about it. If you want to define this game as an MMORPG, you can describe Halo 2 as an MMOFPS or Burnout Revenge as an MMO-Arcade Style Racer and so on.

And if you want to consider other things that would not make this game an MMO (though it's more of an opinion or anything).

1. This game does not have the detailed stats of a character that would make it an MMORPG.

2. The longevitiy of this game is very short and features little to no end game. An RP character can only be leveled up for so long before he can no longer advance in any part of the game any more.

3. The game is based on earning skills for your account and not for your character in general. This cannot make it an MMORPG due to the fact that you're not leveling up a character (which is the basis of an MMORPG) but rather upgrading your account as a whole to take part in PvP.

4. The game is heavily based on PvP. The PvP system is not based on your character advancement through the story at all. In fact, you can create a PvP character which instantly makes him or her level 20 from the get go. No penalities from doing this either.

5. The makers of Guild Wars, while saying that it shares similar aspects to an MMORPG, perfers to label it as a CORPG or (Competitive Online Role-Playing Game). Which, with the nature of how Guild Wars is, is all true. (Source (http://www.guildwars.com/support/faq/default.php#details))

Prak
07-06-2006, 10:29 PM
Guild wars is your best bet if you have cable or dsl dowload the client and go to limewire and downloaD an access key but i actually bought the game i wish i hadn't because of factions i need a new video card.

Do not listen to this cunt. Pay for your games.

jewess crabcake
07-06-2006, 10:40 PM
why when you can get it for free unless you're one of those liberals who think p2p is stealing but it's not if it's on the the internet it deserves to be d/l

Prak
07-06-2006, 10:56 PM
In addition to being a cunt, you're also a moron. The people that made the game did not put it up for download. They don't want it downloaded. They spent a lot of money making it and deserve to be paid for their efforts.

Valerie Valens
07-06-2006, 11:20 PM
why when you can get it for free unless you're one of those liberals who think p2p is stealing but it's not if it's on the the internet it deserves to be d/l



What part of 'Guild Wars is not fucking free!' do you not understand!?

jewess crabcake
07-06-2006, 11:59 PM
In addition to being a cunt, you're also a moron. The people that made the game did not put it up for download. They don't want it downloaded. They spent a lot of money making it and deserve to be paid for their efforts.
tough shit if they didn't want it d/l, i don't care if they think they need to be payed for their efforts once again tough shit i just know i'm not gonna pay for something i can get for free and it's free and on guildwars.com they let you d/l the client you do that you're begging for someone to ask can i get your access key.

jewess crabcake
07-07-2006, 12:02 AM


What part of 'Guild Wars is not fucking free!' do you not understand!?
what are you a retard if it's free why is it in stores or bought by credit card please refrain from looking dumb when you don't know what your talking about you deserve to be shot and killed it's idiots like you who make the world so crappy

J. Peterman
07-07-2006, 12:02 AM
LOL @ YOU

Valerie Valens
07-07-2006, 12:13 AM
what are you a retard if it's free why is it in stores or bought by credit card please refrain from looking dumb when you don't know what your talking about you deserve to be shot and killed it's idiots like you who make the world so crappy


tough shit if they didn't want it d/l, i don't care if they think they need to be payed for their efforts once again tough shit i just know i'm not gonna pay for something i can get for free and it's free and on guildwars.com they let you d/l the client you do that you're begging for someone to ask can i get your access key.

Something tells me you're a little shaky on your stance here. gg, you just defeated your own argument.

jewess crabcake
07-07-2006, 12:19 AM
they let you d/l the game client but w/o the access code it is useless so it doesn't count as free unless you ask a friend for their access code or just d/l the access code from a p2p server once again my last posts stand.

Tact
07-07-2006, 12:22 AM
wow. i gotta admit. i never saw things like that. thanks odin and prak. ^^

gw is definately not mmorpg.

ms still ownz all. i demand you all go play ms now. lol

Valerie Valens
07-07-2006, 12:56 AM
Guild wars is your best bet if you have cable or dsl dowload the client and go to limewire and downloaD an access key but i actually bought the game i wish i hadn't because of factions i need a new video card.

I rest my case.

jewess crabcake
07-07-2006, 01:07 AM
but it's not free the company doesn't release the access key, players leak it for others to use so my point stands

Valerie Valens
07-07-2006, 01:14 AM
No it doesn't, you're encouraging others to acquire an access key illegally.

Alvinz
07-07-2006, 11:36 AM
But if you play that little, you don't really get your money's worth out of it, so it's pointless.

that is why i asked for free games, or games on private servers. =)

Valerie Valens
07-07-2006, 12:58 PM
Try the BYOND client, then you can go to the BYOND site and look for games to join. SpaceStation13 is a good game you can play on the client.

Monkeydude
07-07-2006, 02:09 PM
Guild wars

MogKnight
07-08-2006, 04:14 PM
:( Since when was that Odin quality? ; ;

Anyways, it's not free if it's illegal... and for all intents and purposes, I relinquish my previous post about jumping on a private server with RO. <.<

To further extend the whole Guild Wars thing. No, you cannot use the same access code twice. So asking your friend (who probably spent the 50 bucks getting the game, lets hope lets hope) for his code isn't going to help and looking for an access code that someone that released on the net (for some stupid reason, lets hope lets hope) isn't going to help either when thousands of "Lionheart Reborns" are trying to input the same access code.

Then again, if one didn't know squat about how to hack their own Guild Wars account... they probably wouldn't do that. :3 Thus, stfu.

Needless to say... Guild Wars is not an MMORPG <.< Thus, go play Maple Story or something.

jewess crabcake
07-08-2006, 04:33 PM
:( Since when was that Odin quality? ; ;

Anyways, it's not free if it's illegal... and for all intents and purposes, I relinquish my previous post about jumping on a private server with RO. <.<

To further extend the whole Guild Wars thing. No, you cannot use the same access code twice. So asking your friend (who probably spent the 50 bucks getting the game, lets hope lets hope) for his code isn't going to help and looking for an access code that someone that released on the net (for some stupid reason, lets hope lets hope) isn't going to help either when thousands of "Lionheart Reborns" are trying to input the same access code.

Then again, if one didn't know squat about how to hack their own Guild Wars account... they probably wouldn't do that. :3 Thus, stfu.

Needless to say... Guild Wars is not an MMORPG <.< Thus, go play Maple Story or something.that's only true now because of factions i have two accounts on two different computers and people who usually leak ther access code give you the whole account. plus sharing info on the web isn't illegal it's the fundamentals of the web which is why they can't shut down P2P programs

Prak
07-08-2006, 07:17 PM
You are a fucking moron, desperately clinging to a falsehood that has already been shattered by those who know more than you probably ever will on the subject. Of course it's illegal. It also violates the game's Terms of Service and/or EULA.

PontiusPilate
07-08-2006, 07:28 PM
Ehh piracy doesn't bother me much. See the South Park episode "Christian Rock Hard", it makes some very strong points. :)

jewess crabcake
07-08-2006, 07:28 PM
IF IT'S ILLEGAL I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET MY HANDS ON IT AND EVEN IF I COULD WHAT'S THE GOV.GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. IT'S NOT LIKE I'M SELLING IT FOR A PROFIT, SO WHAT IF I CAN GET FREE GAMES LIKE I SAID BEFORE TOUGH SHIT LIFE'S A BITCH DEAL WITH IT

PontiusPilate
07-08-2006, 07:32 PM
calm down mate, its only a thread

Prak
07-08-2006, 07:39 PM
IF IT'S ILLEGAL I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET MY HANDS ON IT AND EVEN IF I COULD WHAT'S THE GOV.GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. IT'S NOT LIKE I'M SELLING IT FOR A PROFIT, SO WHAT IF I CAN GET FREE GAMES LIKE I SAID BEFORE TOUGH SHIT LIFE'S A BITCH DEAL WITH IT

You can buy marijuana from dealers on the street. That's not legal. Same principle, except it's probably worse because the company that made the game is getting ripped off, thus there is a victim involved.

As for life being a bitch, it's little self-absorbed shits like you who make it that way.

HaloManMasterChief105
07-08-2006, 08:21 PM
mmorpgs sux lol =)

PontiusPilate
07-08-2006, 08:38 PM
if you want anybody to repect that statement, back it up with facts

HaloManMasterChief105
07-08-2006, 08:40 PM
lol it is a fact lol =)

Monkeydude
07-08-2006, 08:52 PM
lol it is a fact lol =)

its a fact that your made of chicken shit

PontiusPilate
07-08-2006, 09:08 PM
its a fact that your made of chicken shit

agreed

Monkeydude
07-08-2006, 09:12 PM
lol now he can't reply, he is clearly afraid of me

PontiusPilate
07-08-2006, 09:49 PM
He probably got the hint and killed himself

Alvinz
07-09-2006, 07:41 AM
HAH! YOU'RE ALL BIRDS. THAT MEANS YOU SHIT AND PISS IN ONE SINGLE BLOB!!!! Except for you Prak. GO PRAK ^^

Tact
07-09-2006, 10:04 AM
hehe. i found out that bird fact when a magician was talking about what its like to do magic tricks with pigeons. :p

cApAc_aMaRu
02-25-2008, 05:09 AM
EVE online once you are making enough moola

execrable gumwrapper
02-25-2008, 06:18 AM
Nice necro-post, assclown.

cApAc_aMaRu
02-25-2008, 08:48 AM
Nice necro-post, assclown.

Bite my ball sack, Swami.

Neo Xzhan
02-25-2008, 10:23 PM
You sir, are a retard. This thread started two years ago, it's safe to assume he either found a game to play, or stopped looking.

There's no point in reviving an old thread either, only to make yourself look stupid.