madben15
06-27-2006, 07:21 PM
Im considering buying it but ive heard mixed feedback about it? Can anyone give me a genuine opinion on what its like..and any changes from X.

MissMurder
06-27-2006, 07:32 PM
Well, its sorta decent. Parts of it are a bit childish for final fantasy lovers if use to an "on the edge" story line. Other than that, i guess its okay. The blitzball mini game is cool on it, some hard bosses at the end, and a little bit of funny comments/scences along the way.
Overall, id say its about a 7 out of ten, so yeah, thats about it.....

ekinserge
06-27-2006, 07:33 PM
kinda good...

but not great...

only yuna, rikku and paine playable...

mission based...

overall, buy and play it...

Rude666
06-27-2006, 07:34 PM
It is the shittest game in the world
unless....
U buy the walkthrough guide, nothing else to say on the subject

Mailbox
06-27-2006, 07:40 PM
It is the shittest game in the world
unless....
U buy the walkthrough guide, nothing else to say on the subject
That's a very well thought out opinion. But it general it sucks.

Final Fantasy X-2 is a good game and worth playing at least twice. It's replay value is high due to it's multiple endings and it's not entirely too complicated. Though you have no character selection the garmet grids and dresspheres the girls can use are quite fun, keeping it not so dull. The battle system is fast paced and somewhat addicting, much better than other Final Fantasys.

The storyline is new with some new characters. If you liked FFX's ending this would be a good game to finish the story which is it's intended purpose. It's not a long game and it's all based on fun. You're not restricted to one area and it's pretty wide open. It's also mission based. Definately one of my favorites, pick it up and play it.

Rude666
06-27-2006, 07:43 PM
Im not being funny, but how the hell are you supposed to know what to do without the guide, its not like all the others were ur given one path to take, but in this theres some much stuff u wouldnt know without the guide.
Like how r u supposed to know about pressing x when at the farplane........the guide alone knows

Mailbox
06-27-2006, 07:46 PM
If you want to accomplish 100% you can easily buy the guide or read it off the interweb. If you want to finish the game for what it is the first time around, it doesn't take an idiot to scroll up to the HOTSPOT marked area which continues the story. It also doesn't take a moron to figure out the puzzles. The internet is always here for help, you don't have to buy a guide.

The game is generally very good.

Rude666
06-27-2006, 07:49 PM
yer but u have to keep goin to the computer and look 4 stuff where as u buy the guide, its in ur lap while playing...£10 measly price to pay aswell.
And i agree it aint hard to do the puzzles. The problem is when to know when to do them and where the hell they r.. ya get me?

Psycho_Cyan
06-27-2006, 07:50 PM
Guh. Gripes like that are why Squeenix keeps making super-linear FF's. God forbid Squeenix does something a little different...or a lot different from FFX.

Anyway, FFX-2 is quality work--the garment grid/dressphere system is about as excellent as the whole job mechanic can be, which gives you LOTS of options to customize your characters' abilities. It's also quite devoid of annoying emo whinery. Definitely play it.

Mailbox
06-27-2006, 08:29 PM
yer but u have to keep goin to the computer and look 4 stuff where as u buy the guide, its in ur lap while playing...�10 measly price to pay aswell.
And i agree it aint hard to do the puzzles. The problem is when to know when to do them and where the hell they r.. ya get me?
If you have to keep going to the computer that's pretty damn sad. It's not a hard game. You're a lame ass if you buy the guides because you're too dumb and too lazy to figure this shit out on your own.

You must be very dependent on game guides if you advertise them so positively. Get the guide if you wish to get 100% the second time around, the first time around is for the experience. Do you get me?

Rude666
06-27-2006, 08:58 PM
fuck off. ya get me?

Prak
06-27-2006, 09:08 PM
Okay, here is my non-argumentative and completely accurate view on the matter.

It is a game you have mixed odds of liking. You have to understand exactly what you're getting into first. If you expect more of the same from FFX, you will be very disappointed. However, for what it is, without being compared to anything else, it is rather exceptional, and is perhaps the best game in the Final Fantasy series.

The main story path is rather short. You could probably finish it in 10 hours if you pushed a bit. However, the main path accounts for a relatively small portion of the game. There is so much optional content that you will easily get as much out of X-2 as any other game in the series if you try for it all.

The story itself is based mostly around characters and revisiting the world to see how it's changed. The conflict isn't particularly epic and the villain isn't very threatening. The game's tone is extremely happy-go-lucky. That's not to say anything is wrong with that. In fact, I'd go so far as to call it uplifting even.

The dressphere system is a fairly neat take on the classic job system developed for FFV. Since you can switch classes on the fly, there's no need for the game to include more than three characters (Don't let people tell you that's a weakness. It isn't.). That gives plenty of time to focus on powering up those characters and figuring out ways to use them effectively.

Combat itself is fast-paced and more fun than any other game that uses the ATB system. The new combo system allows you to string moves together for massive damage, and even stop an enemy's attack. Learn to use the system and it's pretty rewarding, especially against some of the tougher optional bosses.

FFX-2 also has the most replay value of any FF game, due to the fact that it requires multiple playthroughs to see everything thanks to its branching story paths. It is literally impossible to see everything in a single game, and it's very difficult to see the best ending if you just play through it once.

All in all, it's a very good package unless you're a whiny teenager who has to see a heavy dose of angst in his games and hates anything with bright colors out of some retarded fear of being associated with anything immature people might see as childish.

Rude666
06-27-2006, 09:10 PM
Uve sed that stuff soooo many times. U just keep this answer in micro word, and copy and paste it here, cuse this subject comes up all the time.
And theres no way that this is the best FF

Prak
06-27-2006, 09:14 PM
Then prove it.

Rude666
06-27-2006, 09:17 PM
This happens every time, i have an argument with...
erm its not the best because....
I dont like it because....
well the girls are bluddy annoying, shit comments while ur fighting, cant remember any at the mo, maybe u could help with that.

all i got, but i aint played this game in a while, so im a bit rusty, but i know im right. Btw im not saying its shit, im just saying there are beta FFs

Prak
06-27-2006, 09:21 PM
Which means nothing if you can't prove it.

Rude666
06-27-2006, 09:22 PM
i could just say that every thing you wrote is bollocks.
I feel that that is sufficient proof

Mailbox
06-27-2006, 09:24 PM
I kept forgetting what kind of member Rude was, I figured it out too. Dumbass, ftw!

Prak
06-27-2006, 09:24 PM
Fraid not. Not by any reasonable standards, at least.

Rude666
06-27-2006, 09:25 PM
ftw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
wtf aint it

TeknoBlade
06-27-2006, 10:02 PM
x2 on Twilight and Prak. FFX-2 doesn't have as much levity and flair as its predecessors - it's intended to be an exhilirating, fun experience.

Ketevan
06-27-2006, 10:10 PM
Thanks for the reviews people. I wasn't sure whether to get this, but if it has a high replay value alone it shouldn't be that bad, should it?

madben15
06-27-2006, 10:33 PM
Thanks, i think i'll probably get a copy now that i know what to expect, plus i wanna finish the X story too!

ROKI
06-27-2006, 11:57 PM
ftw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
wtf aint it

lol?
Btw you will never "win" Prak on an argument. I dont know from where he gets his sources but he is always right!

Agent0042
06-27-2006, 11:58 PM
Since you're just starting out --- I'll give you some free advice --- don't believe the guides that steer you towards thinking it's somehow necessary or important to get 100% in completion in one playthrough to get the Perfect Ending. It's not.

jewess crabcake
06-28-2006, 12:13 AM
in my opinion ffx-2 good game just not the best why because it's too short even with the stratagey guide your best bet is to rent. As far as it being the best ff title so far i have to disagree that plot was sooo dumb why go delve deeper into a finished plot tidus was a dream of the faeths and the faeths are gone but she insists on looking for a non-existing guy but hey that's just my opinion not that it's not a good story it just seems hackneyed

Prak
06-28-2006, 03:03 AM
Most real gamers (as in people who take the medium as a whole seriously, not just a few pseudo-RPGs) will say that a game with good gameplay and a questionable story is better than a game that has a good story, but is a total bore to play.

Rude666
06-28-2006, 12:09 PM
Yer but all the FFs ive played have a good story and are defo not boring to play, where as X-2 is good gameplay but a questionable storyline

Prak
06-28-2006, 02:47 PM
I could argue you down on that, but there's really no point in it since the original poster has already made a decision.

Nightowl9910
06-28-2006, 06:05 PM
Lol these threads seem to be popping up extra often lately.

BizarroSephiroth
06-29-2006, 01:57 PM
If you want to accomplish 100% you can easily buy the guide or read it off the interweb. If you want to finish the game for what it is the first time around, it doesn't take an idiot to scroll up to the HOTSPOT marked area which continues the story. It also doesn't take a moron to figure out the puzzles. The internet is always here for help, you don't have to buy a guide.

The game is generally very good.

It was great after I used the guide and saw the ending. That made it better. The perfect ending and the good ending were....well good and perfect!

Desert Wolf
06-30-2006, 12:56 AM
lol?
Btw you will never "win" Prak on an argument. I dont know from where he gets his sources but he is always right!

Far too tempting a post not to reply to. Prak isnt always right ftr no one is. I have proved him wrong before. I think its the line about the moon being made of red velvet cake that makes most people crumble.

Nightowl9910
06-30-2006, 12:06 PM
Far too tempting a post not to reply to. Prak isnt always right ftr no one is. I have proved him wrong before. I think its the line about the moon being made of red velvet cake that makes most people crumble.

Ha ha. I count that as one of this sites main catch phrases now, i've come across it so often :laugh: =)

Prak
06-30-2006, 02:32 PM
DW, you've never proved me more than half-wrong. In every instance, my points have had some kind of lasting merit.

PontiusPilate
06-30-2006, 11:22 PM
No, IMO FF X-2 was mediocre. Enix did a slop job on this one by replacing their usual well made characters with 3 incredibly annoying girls that dress like whores.

Hex Omega
07-01-2006, 05:34 AM
Sigh, yet another one of these morons.


No, IMO FF X-2 was mediocre.

How so?


Enix did a slop job on this one by replacing their usual well made characters

Like the ones in FF7 and FF8 you mean..........................:rolleyes:


with 3 incredibly annoying girls that dress like whores.

Whatever you say pal........:rolleyes:

PontiusPilate
07-01-2006, 06:12 AM
Sigh, yet another one of these morons.



How so?



Like the ones in FF7 and FF8 you mean..........................:rolleyes:



Whatever you say pal........:rolleyes:

Sigh, yet another one of these fucking fanboys

- Characters were annoying as fuck and the storyline bore me.

- Like the ones from FF 6-9 (and some of 10(auron)), not just 7 and 8 you waste of space.

Piss off you little shit and stop argueing with me in all of the threads

Hex Omega
07-01-2006, 06:21 AM
Sigh, yet another one of these fucking fanboys


Oh, so i'm a fanboy because I want to defend the game? Are you that fucking retarded?


Characters were annoying as fuck and the storyline bore me.

Let me guess, 'it didn't feel like a normal FF' right?


Like the ones from FF 6-9 (and some of 10(auron)), not just 7 and 8 you waste of space.

What happened to "their usual well made characters"? You certainly reverse yourself quickly!


Piss off you little shit and stop argueing with me in all of the threads

So all pretense of civility has finally been torn down. It certainly took long enough! I thought it'd take longer for the personal attacks to come, but that just makes it all the more satisfying now that they have. Also, this is a public forum, if you post your opinion, more often then not it will be challenged. Learn to deal with it, or go away.

PontiusPilate
07-01-2006, 06:32 AM
Oh, so i'm a fanboy because I want to defend the game? Are you that fucking retarded?



Let me guess, 'it didn't feel like a normal FF' right?



What happened to "their usual well made characters"? You certainly reverse yourself quickly!



So all pretense of civility has finally been torn down. It certainly took long enough! I thought it'd take longer for the personal attacks to come, but that just makes it all the more satisfying now that they have. Also, this is a public forum, if you post your opinion, more often then not it will be challenged. Learn to deal with it, or go away.

No, your a fanboy because all you do is insult without backing up your own character. Are you really that fucking retarded?

It felt like a final fantasy. A watered down slop job final fantasy.

That makes no sense retard. I just said the usual well made characters and gave examples (FF 6-10) my favorite probably being 7.

Of course it will be challenged. I like when it's challenged so i can defend myself and see other people's point of view. You just dismiss other people calling them fucking ignorant cretin's without giving much reason.

Hex Omega
07-01-2006, 06:38 AM
No, your a fanboy because all you do is insult without backing up your own character. Are you really that fucking retarded?

Try reading some of the other debate threads, i've made my postion clear on this game many times. Point infact, your the moron for making statements and not backing them up whatsoever.



It felt like a final fantasy. A watered down slop job final fantasy.

How so?


That makes no sense retard. I just said the usual well made characters and gave examples (FF 6-10) my favorite probably being 7.

Sorry, I misread that, it's 6.30am here and I haven't been to bed. But you didn't give any specific examples or explain why you like them. Nor did you explain why the characters in x-2 are bad.


Of course it will be challenged.

Why bitch about it then?


You just dismiss other people calling them fucking ignorant cretin's without giving much reason.

As people in here will tell you, I am perfectly amicible with people who can make good arguements. All you've done is make a few vauge statements and not back them up whatsoever. Hence the mockery. Come up with some decent arguements and I will be quite happy to debate them with in a polite and civil manner. I'm not holding my breath however.

PontiusPilate
07-01-2006, 07:00 AM
Try reading some of the other debate threads, i've made my postion clear on this game many times. Point infact, your the moron for making statements and not backing them up whatsoever.




How so?



Sorry, I misread that, it's 6.30am here and I haven't been to bed. But you didn't give any specific examples or explain why you like them. Nor did you explain why the characters in x-2 are bad.


Why bitch about it then?



As people in here will tell you, I am perfectly amicible with people who can make good arguements. All you've done is make a few vauge statements and not back them up whatsoever. Hence the mockery.


- Since i'm new to this forum i havent been on other threads for this. But if u went to Eyes on FF you can clearly see that i backed myself up.


I thought the story had less in it than X and I thought the enix kind of repaced the great characters (ex. Auron, zell, cloud, vincent) with annoying girls that are less likeable and dress like whores. Go read some of my other post because your not worth typing up all the reasons i like those characters.

Hex Omega
07-01-2006, 07:08 AM
- Since i'm new to this forum i havent been on other threads for this. But if u went to Eyes on FF you can clearly see that i backed myself up.


Sorry, i'm not buying that pal.



I thought the story had less in it than X

That's the point you see, why follow up the game with one just like it? I loved the fact it was different and lighter in the story element. That doesn't mean the story is bad however, as it isn't.


and I thought the enix kind of repaced the great characters (ex. Auron, zell, cloud, vincent)

I'll give you Auron and Vincent, but Zell and Cloud? You can't be serious?

Zell- Annoying, cliched.
Cloud- Terrible main character. Emo fag essentially.



with annoying girls that are less likeable and dress like whores. Go read some of my other post because your not worth typing up all the reasons i like those characters.

Again, that isn't going to hold any weight, nor will it make you look like any half-intelligent person. I've said i'd be happy to debate with anyone who produced good arguements, you've failed in this task, therefore I cast you into the section of hopeless morons, who I will ignore in the future. Anyway, if you want to type up a decent arguement, i'll shred it tommorow, I need sleep.

PontiusPilate
07-01-2006, 07:23 AM
Sorry, i'm not buying that pal.




That's the point you see, why follow up the game with one just like it? I loved the fact it was different and lighter in the story element. That doesn't mean the story is bad however, as it isn't.



I'll give you Auron and Vincent, but Zell and Cloud? You can't be serious?

Zell- Annoying, cliched.
Cloud- Terrible main character. Emo fag essentially.




Again, that isn't going to hold any weight, nor will it make you look like any half-intelligent person. I've said i'd be happy to debate with anyone who produced good arguements, you've failed in this task, therefore I cast you into the section of hopeless morons, who I will ignore in the future. Anyway, if you want to type up a decent arguement, i'll shred it tommorow, I need sleep.

I'm not telling you to buy it, i'm telling you to go look at it.

If you like a lighter story element that's your opinion. I personally hate it

Isn't going to hold any weight? all you put for your description of zell is annoying and cliched and then said cloud was an "emo fag".fucking hypocrit, what kind of explanation is that. You are unworthy to debate me so i am ignoring you till you can take that large flacid dick out of your mouth and give me a better explination.

Hex Omega
07-01-2006, 07:34 AM
I'm not telling you to buy it, i'm telling you to go look at it.

And i'm telling you that coming onto this forum, you'll be asked to post whatever opinions you have here. Telling someone to go look at something on another forum, that could come from anyone stinks of shennagins.


If you like a lighter story element that's your opinion. I personally hate it

Fine.


Isn't going to hold any weight? all you put for your description of zell is annoying and cliched and then said cloud was an "emo fag".fucking hypocrit, what kind of explanation is that.

It's more then you gave(nothing apart from a statement). Alright i'll indulge you.

Zell: Shallow as a rock-pool. All he does is go around yelling. And whining about Seifer. Lacks any depth whatsoever, like almost all characters in FF8.

Cloud:Nothing more then a stereotype. He is always confused and has no idea as to what is going on inside his head. You often wonder whether Tifa or Aeris is Cloud's real girl? Well, heck, even he doesn't really pay much attention to it because of his confusion. Much as nerds.Other main characters from other FF's are far superior(Celes, Terra, Zidane, Tidus, Yuna).


You are unworthy to debate me so i am ignoring you till you can take that large flacid dick out of your mouth and give me a better explination.

I love how up your own ass you are, it's truly hilarious.

Edit: @Cyan So did I, but this guy keeps churning out the rubbish.

Psycho_Cyan
07-01-2006, 07:35 AM
Since it seems that Viper's taking a bit of a break, I'll at pick up at least part of his argument.

When you get right down to it, Zell is pretty much your dumb, hotheaded fighter-type. The first "Chicken-wuss" scene while on your way to the SeeD test is an example of this. Also: hot dogs. 'Nuff said.

You called Viper a hypocrite for calling Zell annoying and cliched, right after you called the Gullwings annoying. What's that old saw about the calling the kettle black?

In all honesty, your reasons for disliking FFX-2 are pretty superficial. What about the ATB system? It's faster, smoother, and deeper than everything else with ATB. The combo mechanic is also quite well-done. What about Dressphere/Garment Grid system? When you take two seconds to look past the cosmetics, this system is nearly perfect. With plenty of classes and Garment Grids to choose from, your options for character-building are pretty much limitless. It also manages to be quite smooth (especially in comparison to Materia or Junctioning) in the process.

edit: and here I thought ol' Vip was going to bed.

PontiusPilate
07-01-2006, 08:06 AM
Since it seems that Viper's taking a bit of a break, I'll at pick up at least part of his argument.

When you get right down to it, Zell is pretty much your dumb, hotheaded fighter-type. The first "Chicken-wuss" scene while on your way to the SeeD test is an example of this. Also: hot dogs. 'Nuff said.

You called Viper a hypocrite for calling Zell annoying and cliched, right after you called the Gullwings annoying. What's that old saw about the calling the kettle black?

In all honesty, your reasons for disliking FFX-2 are pretty superficial. What about the ATB system? It's faster, smoother, and deeper than everything else with ATB. The combo mechanic is also quite well-done. What about Dressphere/Garment Grid system? When you take two seconds to look past the cosmetics, this system is nearly perfect. With plenty of classes and Garment Grids to choose from, your options for character-building are pretty much limitless. It also manages to be quite smooth (especially in comparison to Materia or Junctioning) in the process.

edit: and here I thought ol' Vip was going to bed.

Never insulted the the battle system, just said i didnt like the story and characters. I thought the battle system and dresssphere grid were great improvements from the sphere grid in X which i disliked greatly. I still liked the materia system as it gave you freedom to customize your hero.

Psycho_Cyan
07-01-2006, 11:20 AM
Never said you insulted the battle system--I was just bringing it up as an excellent aspect of the game, since I think it far better than mediocre. Saying the dressphere/garment grid was an improvement to the Sphere Grid doesn't say much; I also thought it was awful. Anyway, story and characters--if your "issue" is more or less a personal preference in style (more whimsical/lighthearted as opposed to well, emo), then there isn't really a whole lot left to discuss.

fastidious percolator
07-01-2006, 02:15 PM
Sigh, yet another one of these fucking fanboys

Do you even know the difference between a fanboy and an ordinary fan?

PontiusPilate
07-01-2006, 07:04 PM
actually no i didn't, I assumed the definition of fanboy by the way people use it so commonly on this forum. But please englighten me on the true meaning

The Omega Weapon
07-01-2006, 07:58 PM
I enjoyed the game, I can't say everyone will like it though.
FF X-2 is I believe is suppose to be a final fantasy version of Charlie's Angels

PontiusPilate
07-01-2006, 08:06 PM
I enjoyed the game, I can't say everyone will like it though.
FF X-2 is I believe is suppose to be a final fantasy version of Charlie's Angels

Never thought of it like that. lol

Hex Omega
07-01-2006, 08:08 PM
FF X-2 is I believe is suppose to be a final fantasy version of Charlie's Angels

sigh

TeknoBlade
07-02-2006, 04:59 AM
I know, really. =\

If you're new to Final Fantasy games, you probably won't like it. If you've been playing the series for as long as most of us have, you'll enjoy the change of atmosphere and pace. That's the premise. :)

Prak
07-02-2006, 02:32 PM
This thread is so full of stupidity that it nearly crept into my brain and infected me. :(

PompousPilate, just go away already. No one likes you. We all see you as an overly arrogant cunt. You have no substance to your arguments and don't understand the basic rules of debate. You are a waste of our time and a plague upon the air we must share with you.

YFFSephiroth
07-02-2006, 05:59 PM
If you want to have my opinion:

I really love the game, Great garphics, nice story, I like the new Dressspheresystem.

Altough it get's boring after 2 hours non stop playing, you can easely get addicted to it.

I enjoyed the scenes, even tough i haven't played it out, i completely know the story line. The only bad thing is that the made some old FFX char's retarded. And i miss blitzball :'(

Prak
07-02-2006, 06:02 PM
YFFSephiroth, more like YIFFSephiroth.

Geddit?

YFFSephiroth
07-02-2006, 06:11 PM
YFFSephiroth, more like YIFFSephiroth.

Geddit?


Don't think about my name ;-)

YourFinalFantasySephiroth ;-)

My FF site = Your Final Fantasy ^^

PontiusPilate
07-02-2006, 06:37 PM
This thread is so full of stupidity that it nearly crept into my brain and infected me. :(

PompousPilate, just go away already. No one likes you. We all see you as an overly arrogant cunt. You have no substance to your arguments and don't understand the basic rules of debate. You are a waste of our time and a plague upon the air we must share with you.


Oh no, No one likes me in a forum. What will i do?! I just joined this forum mainly to be a dick and piss everyone off and from the looks of it MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Hex Omega
07-02-2006, 06:44 PM
All you've accomplished amigo, is amuse us temporarily.

Prak
07-02-2006, 06:46 PM
Pretty much. We laugh at the obnoxious morons who come through here and goad you guys into saying stupid things to amuse us further.

PontiusPilate
07-02-2006, 06:51 PM
All you've accomplished amigo, is amusing us temporarily.

Yeah, now im just pissing you off.:)

Prak
07-02-2006, 06:53 PM
Keep dreaming. You're not pissing anyone off.

Hex Omega
07-02-2006, 06:55 PM
x2

Mailbox
07-02-2006, 07:05 PM
Prak and Bryan stop fucking stealing all the fun, dammit.

x3

Hex Omega
07-02-2006, 07:06 PM
You should post more often then, dear Gina. Also, why do I think PP is actually wandererwillow?

Mailbox
07-02-2006, 07:10 PM
I can't post more often, I'm always too busy.

ekinserge
07-02-2006, 07:11 PM
back to the topic...

i think X-2 is a good game...

the dressphere and garment grid system is cool...

the battle is fast, which i like that...

what i hate about X-2 is that defeating vegnagun and shuyin is too easy...

but angra mainyu and trema looks awesome...

and i still can't defeat trema...

Hex Omega
07-02-2006, 07:13 PM
I can't post more often, I'm always too busy.

With WoW of course.:-P

Edit: ekinserge, you've added nothing new to the thread. If you like, you can go into further detail on why you like the game.

ekinserge
07-02-2006, 07:15 PM
oh, sorry then...

because i'm not reading the previous pages...

Mailbox
07-02-2006, 07:19 PM
With WoW of course.:-P
I had an awesome time on Warcraft last night with the guildies. A priest, warrior, and I were hiding on the boat between Ratchet and Booty Bay waiting for Horde to jump on so as soon as the boat left out in the middle of the ocean we'd mind control them off the boat. So either;

a) They'd have a long ass swim back.
b) They'd get dropped in deep water, get fatigue, and drown.

I fucking love being a Priest.

Hex Omega
07-02-2006, 07:23 PM
Go and install Diablo II, play a real RPG!

fastidious percolator
07-02-2006, 07:42 PM
Oh no, No one likes me in a forum. What will i do?! I just joined this forum mainly to be a dick and piss everyone off and from the looks of it MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

I don't think you're a dick, you didn't piss me off with your posts in, for example, that FF7 thread. Although it was quite obvious that your posts didn't had any purpose in that thread ultimately, i don't think i've seen much posts of you outside of FF-related things. =) So i'm feeling neutral towards you.

YFFSephiroth
07-02-2006, 07:52 PM
Go and install Diablo II, play a real RPG!


What about Untold Legends on PSP ^^

Prak
07-02-2006, 07:55 PM
What about it? It's total shit.

ekinserge
07-03-2006, 08:27 AM
I don't think you're a dick, you didn't piss me off with your posts in, for example, that FF7 thread. Although it was quite obvious that your posts didn't had any purpose in that thread ultimately, i don't think i've seen much posts of you outside of FF-related things. =) So i'm feeling neutral towards you.

i also think the same...

YFFSephiroth
07-03-2006, 09:32 AM
What about it? It's total shit.

How long did you play it then ?

Prak
07-03-2006, 02:30 PM
Probably about 5 hours. I couldn't stand it beyond that because it was a mess of horrible game design.

YFFSephiroth
07-03-2006, 02:59 PM
Probably about 5 hours. I couldn't stand it beyond that because it was a mess of horrible game design.


Well obviously something happend, perhaps you coulnd't play it out xD

Prak
07-03-2006, 03:14 PM
Your reading comprehension skills seem to be a bit lacking, Yiff person.

YFFSephiroth
07-03-2006, 03:15 PM
Your reading comprehension skills seem to be a bit lacking, Yiff person.


So do yours,

As I explained before YFFS = the shortcut of my site ( Final Fantasy)

So yiff has nothing to do with it.

Prak
07-03-2006, 03:18 PM
No, that is simply you missing the joke that I am making out of your username. It is a subtle form of mockery that is going over your head.

YFFSephiroth
07-03-2006, 03:19 PM
No, that is simply you missing the joke that I am making out of your username. It is a subtle form of mockery that is going over your head.


So you say it was a joke ^^
So was mines doh :|

Btw hilarious answers on that 3rd anual answer topic ^^

Prak
07-03-2006, 03:19 PM
Thanks.

YFFSephiroth
07-03-2006, 03:21 PM
Thanks.


Your welcome

PontiusPilate
07-03-2006, 11:53 PM
No, IMO FF X-2 was mediocre. Enix did a slop job on this one by replacing their usual well made characters with 3 incredibly annoying girls that dress like whores.

Yeah like i said, this game was okay but it just didn't feel like enix put the time or the effort into it as they did with X. I was disapointed that the characters weren't as likeable this time. Especially Yuna went from low self esteemed loser to skimpy dressed whore with highself esteem.

*waits for response from Viper...* no wait, nvm

Psycho_Cyan
07-04-2006, 01:40 AM
Yeah like i said, this game was okay but it just didn't feel like enix put the time or the effort into it as they did with X. I was disapointed that the characters weren't as likeable this time. Especially Yuna went from low self esteemed loser to skimpy dressed whore with highself esteem.

*waits for response from Viper...* no wait, nvm

Okay, you obviously gripe when he flames you, seeing as he's been banned, so that potshot was complete hypocrisy, not to mention completely pointless.

We've been over this mediocre thing once already, haven't we?

So Squeenix didn't put time or effort into X-2 because you don't like how the Gullwings dressed? Have you so quickly forgotten about the battle system? It pushed the ATB about as far as it can be pushed, and the job system is nothing short of phenomenal. What about the story? Did it suck because it was much more lighthearted, instead of all dark (Heaven forbid I say "emo!") and convoluted?

PontiusPilate
07-04-2006, 02:37 AM
He was a dick and im rubbing his face in the dirt with it? Whats wrong with that?

I'm not a fan of a lighthearted story unless it can be backed up with gameplay, which FF X-2 clearly failed to do. Sorry, turnbased games are out dated. Why would I ever want to play a game with a lighthearted story (which is just another way of saying a weak story) and an incredibly boring gameplay when i can go play a game like Devil May Cry 3 where I can actually control my character and make him move, attack, and block on my command. Turnbased games take less to skill to beat, but more time because they force you to do incredibly repetive training. But hey, thats just my opinion

hb smokey
07-04-2006, 02:41 AM
I only got just over 30% of the game finished, and it was fun up to that point. The battle system was fresh and neat, and it's a nice change that I don't have to worry about if my 5th, 6th, or 7th characters are strong enough to survive later on in the game. I would have kept playing it, but I haven't held much interest in games for a while now, and it saddens me. :(

Psycho_Cyan
07-04-2006, 03:03 AM
He was a dick and im rubbing his face in the dirt with it? Whats wrong with that?

I'm not a fan of a lighthearted story unless it can be backed up with gameplay, which FF X-2 clearly failed to do. Sorry, turnbased games are out dated. Why would I ever want to play a game with a lighthearted story (which is just another way of saying a weak story) and an incredibly boring gameplay when i can go play a game like Devil May Cry 3 where I can actually control my character and make him move, attack, and block on my command. Turnbased games take less to skill to beat, but more time because they force you to do incredibly repetive training. But hey, thats just my opinion

Um...FFXI and FFXII are the only two FF's with anything close to real-time combat. So...if turn-based combat is teh suck, then why are you bothering with FF at all? And no, Lighthearted doesn't necessarily equal weak. Unless, of course, if you're so slavishly devoted to "dark" stuff. Which you seem to be. At any rate, what has DMC3 got to do with FF? FFX-2's gameplay is clearly superior to pretty much all the other FF's--if you're too snagged by a total lack of "dark" story to notice the gameplay, then that's your own problem.

Edit after seeing Pilate banned: Am I allowed to rub his face in it now?

hb smokey
07-04-2006, 03:19 AM
I wouldn't recommend it.

Gourmand
07-04-2006, 09:36 AM
Well, FFX-2 did grant the player much more liberty than FFX had. If you can manage to overlook the clear similarities between this and Charlie's Angels, also the the fact that the game lacks a decent plot, I'm sure that you'd enjoy it.

The dresssphere/garment grid system is nice, as is the ability to skip scenes!

Psycho_Cyan
07-06-2006, 05:15 PM
If you can manage to overlook the clear similarities between this and Charlie's Angels,

Oooh, there's three girls. That automatically makes it just like Charlie's Angels. Nevermind the fact that there's no mysterious "Charlie" to boss them about. And while the Gullwings weren't dressed like nuns, FFX-2 wasn't entirely a blatnant attempt to cash in on T and A, the way the two CA flicks were. But there's three girls.


also the the fact that the game lacks a decent plot

Why? Because it's not an emo-fest? Yeah, I'm probably making an assumption, but most folks I've seen who hate on the story say it's teh suck because it's not emo enough for their tastes.

PontiusPilate
07-06-2006, 05:58 PM
Um...FFXI and FFXII are the only two FF's with anything close to real-time combat. So...if turn-based combat is teh suck, then why are you bothering with FF at all? And no, Lighthearted doesn't necessarily equal weak. Unless, of course, if you're so slavishly devoted to "dark" stuff. Which you seem to be. At any rate, what has DMC3 got to do with FF? FFX-2's gameplay is clearly superior to pretty much all the other FF's--if you're too snagged by a total lack of "dark" story to notice the gameplay, then that's your own problem.

Edit after seeing Pilate banned: Am I allowed to rub his face in it now?

And as usual, you miss my point completely.

FF, i think, does better than almost every other game when it comes to story, music, and graphics. If it was missing any of those three components, mainly story, I wouldn't play them. All the lighthearted games I have played have incredibly slow stories and use desperate attempts of trying to be cute or funny. What you can't seem to grasp is that if a game has a serious storyline, that doesn't automatically mean it's "dark" or "emo". I like to game play games with serious stories because then I at least know the story will actually go somewhere without having to hear crappy attempts to be funny. I don't think I've seen anything japanese made that is actually funny ( not counting Kung Fu Hustle which is one of my favorite movies).

I used DMC 3 as an example because it exceled in both story and gameplay, unlike FF which only excels in story

Prak
07-06-2006, 06:02 PM
Two minor points (or maybe they're not even points):

Kung-Fu Hustle wasn't Japanese. (Yeah, that really is trivial.)

DMC3 had at least one serious flaw in its gameplay. The camera angles in some of the boss fights were ludicrous and made it hard to see the action sometimes. When a boss is halfway off screen and attacking you from a place the camera will not allow you to see, something is wrong.

PontiusPilate
07-06-2006, 06:09 PM
Two minor points (or maybe they're not even points):

Kung-Fu Hustle wasn't Japanese. (Yeah, that really is trivial.)

DMC3 had at least one serious flaw in its gameplay. The camera angles in some of the boss fights were ludicrous and made it hard to see the action sometimes. When a boss is halfway off screen and attacking you from a place the camera will not allow you to see, something is wrong.

Ok then i take that back, I havent seen anything funny done by the japanese.

I didn't find the camera to be much of a bother myself, but i would still prefer that over turnbased

Prak
07-06-2006, 06:32 PM
I find a lot of flaws in your way of thinking, Pontius.

First of all, if your opinions were consistent, you would be praising the battle system of FFX-2 for making the ATB system more dynamic and more in-line with what you want from gameplay. It is, at the very least, a major step up from the other games in the series that used variants of the same system.

Then there's the fact that gameplay should always take top priority in games. If you're only in it for a good story, you'd be far better off simply reading a book. After all, books generally contain better stories anyway and take much less time to read than a 40+ hour long game. Games are what they are because they're interactive. They're meant to be played and enjoyed on entirely different merits than books are.

Perhaps you should reevaluate exactly what games mean to you?

Psycho_Cyan
07-06-2006, 06:42 PM
And as usual, you miss my point completely.

And you ignore mine, responding with flame bait. Cute.


FF, i think, does better than almost every other game when it comes to story, music, and graphics. If it was missing any of those three components, mainly story, I wouldn't play them.

But if the gameplay is really teh suck, then story, music, and graphics don't much matter. I mean, games like Legacy of Kain, Splinter Cell, and Kingdom Hearts (to name a couple off the top of my head) have excellent gameplay as well as all the other stuff. So why bother with FF when you can have your proverbial cake and eat it too?


All the lighthearted games I have played have incredibly slow stories and use desperate attempts of trying to be cute or funny. What you can't seem to grasp is that if a game has a serious storyline, that doesn't automatically mean it's "dark" or "emo". I like to game play games with serious stories because then I at least know the story will actually go somewhere without having to hear crappy attempts to be funny.

What about FFVI, FFIX, Earthbound, and Super Mario RPG? What about Kingdom Hearts? All excellent console RPGs--all excellent games. All of them also have more lighthearted stories.

In FFVI, while Kefka's busy taking over the world, he's spouting hilarious lines. While on the Phantom Train, Sabin decides to pig out, while Cyan is flipping out next to him. While going through Cyan's 'dream world,' the baddies haunting his dream are the three dream stooges. Earthbound needs no explanation. In FFIX, while on the way to warn Regent Cid about Queen Brahne, Zidane takes a moment to grab Dagger's behind, and then comment on it! In Super Mario RPG, Bowser teams up with Mario! Of all the things! And Kingdom Hearts...A story can only have a certain degree of seriousness when Goofy, Donald Duck, and Mickey Mouse are three of the principal characters. I mean, "Gowrsh, Sora!"

PontiusPilate
07-06-2006, 06:47 PM
I find a lot of flaws in your way of thinking, Pontius.

First of all, if your opinions were consistent, you would be praising the battle system of FFX-2 for making the ATB system more dynamic and more in-line with what you want from gameplay. It is, at the very least, a major step up from the other games in the series that used variants of the same system.

Then there's the fact that gameplay should always take top priority in games. If you're only in it for a good story, you'd be far better off simply reading a book. After all, books generally contain better stories anyway and take much less time to read than a 40+ hour long game. Games are what they are because they're interactive. They're meant to be played and enjoyed on entirely different merits than books are.

Perhaps you should reevaluate exactly what games mean to you?

eh yeah i see your point. like i recently just got into anime series which kind of felt like a long long movie if u watched them together which i liked. That's why i'm not into the FF games as much as i was before. But something i get from videogames that i dont get from anime is that i'm actually controling my character so i'm more attached to him. And i'm not very attached to the character if I get bored playing with him because the battles and bosses are just boring to play. FF X-2 improved on the FF series battlesystem, but if i was enix, i would have made the battle system like that by the time I got FF 8 or 9 and by the time i was at X it would have been realtime.

Edit: I didn't find X-2 to be funny or cute at all

I wouldn't label all of KH lighthearted. Only the disney chars were lighthearted. The rest was very serious at times. I personally don't think Mario is funny, in anyway shape or form. Question though, Before i get games i usually like to check out with other people about what their saying about them so i can get a basic idea about the game and I was checking around about Legacy of Kain that everyone here said was great and the game got like 5-7/10 from most people. what made you guys come to the conclusion that L.K. was one of your favorite games.

Psycho_Cyan
07-06-2006, 06:55 PM
Edit: I wouldn't label all of KH lighthearted. Only the disney chars were lighthearted. The rest were very serious at times.

I agree there, but there was a definite lighthearted 'tone' or 'feel,' for lack of a better word, for at least a large chunk of the game, no?

Prak
07-06-2006, 06:58 PM
Also, FFX-2 got every bit as serious as Kingdom Hearts at times.

Besides, you also have to look at the fact that FFX-2 was mirroring the real world tendency for a culture to hit a major high right after emerging victorious in a major conflict. I'd say they probably modeled the tone of the game fairly heavily after the general mood of 1950's America.

PontiusPilate
07-06-2006, 08:16 PM
I agree there, but there was a definite lighthearted 'tone' or 'feel,' for lack of a better word, for at least a large chunk of the game, no?

yeah, definately and even though I stopped watching disney at about 7 i still found all the characters to be just as likeable and funny as i remembered them.

This makes me wish they had a Kingdom Hearts forum :(

Prak
07-06-2006, 08:17 PM
Sarah recently said that she plans on making one in the near future.

crop
07-06-2006, 08:22 PM
It sucks like my hoover.
Its as crap as what comes out of my ass.
Its as rubbish as the stuff I put out on bin day.
Its the worst FF ever.

PontiusPilate
07-06-2006, 08:25 PM
ah right i think i saw that.

I never woulda realized what they mirriored X-2 off of. thanks for pointing that out

Prak
07-06-2006, 08:39 PM
Oh look. Crop made a retarded post. How interesting. [/sarcasm]

crop
07-06-2006, 08:44 PM
Oh look. Crop made a retarded post. How interesting. [/sarcasm]


Oh look Prak is pointing out the obvious. How usual.

PontiusPilate
07-06-2006, 08:54 PM
oh boy, here comes another arguement :/

im staying outta this one

crop
07-06-2006, 08:58 PM
There will be if he replys. Although I was merely stating my opinion on the game and answering the title question. It was a bit harsh but it was what I thaught of the game.

PontiusPilate
07-06-2006, 09:02 PM
eh its alright if u say that, just try to back it up with facts about why you hate it

Prak
07-06-2006, 09:03 PM
For one thing, the original poster already decided to try the game. Besides, since then there has been actual discussion about the game's merits/demerits. Simply coming in here and saying "omfg it sux" after that looks pretty silly.

crop
07-07-2006, 09:32 AM
For one thing, the original poster already decided to try the game. Besides, since then there has been actual discussion about the game's merits/demerits. Simply coming in here and saying "omfg it sux" after that looks pretty silly.

It does but I dont care.

Psycho_Cyan
07-07-2006, 05:35 PM
It does but I dont care.

Then the stupidly obvious question is, why are you bothering?

crop
07-07-2006, 08:50 PM
Then the stupidly obvious question is, why are you bothering?
Because I FEEL like it.

hb smokey
07-07-2006, 09:35 PM
Because I FEEL like it.
And I FEEL like calling you a cunt.

Hex Omega
07-07-2006, 09:40 PM
Beat me to it. =/

crop
07-08-2006, 09:48 AM
And I FEEL like calling you a cunt.


You can DO whatever the hell you want. I couldnt give a flying fuck about what you call me, it does not bother me.

STONEDSTONER
07-22-2006, 09:37 PM
i didnt like it at all,the whole dress sphere system was a joke

in my opinion only FFVII and X were good,

STONEDSTONER
07-22-2006, 09:38 PM
oh sorry and 6 was good :->

Prak
07-23-2006, 12:32 AM
I am very pleased to announce that no one really cares what you think. You also should not double post. Use the edit button on your previous post if you want to add something.

STONEDSTONER
07-23-2006, 03:38 AM
im pleased to say i dont give a fuck what you think either

STONEDSTONER
07-23-2006, 03:38 AM
x2

STONEDSTONER
07-23-2006, 03:38 AM
x3

STONEDSTONER
07-23-2006, 03:38 AM
x4

STONEDSTONER
07-23-2006, 03:38 AM
x5

STONEDSTONER
07-23-2006, 03:39 AM
x666

hb smokey
07-23-2006, 07:39 AM
And I'm pleased to say that I can't wait to see you banned.

STONEDSTONER
07-23-2006, 10:53 AM
im pleased to say i dont give a shit

with fags like prak nitpicking and whining like a lil bitch

who wants to offer there opinions

Hex Omega
07-23-2006, 12:12 PM
Oh look, another braindead moron obsessed with Prak. Like we don't get them 1843398782 times a week. Get a fucking life. :rolleyes:

Valerie Valens
07-23-2006, 12:12 PM
My opinion is that Stonedstoner is a colossal faggot.

hb smokey
07-23-2006, 03:14 PM
My opinion is that Stonedstoner is a colossal faggot.
Opinion noted, although fact has been proven.

Sarah
07-23-2006, 03:38 PM
joan, smokey, viper, etc: don't feed the trolls. this isn't GD. stop shitting up threads. contribute or get out.

hb smokey
07-23-2006, 03:48 PM
joan, smokey, viper, etc: don't feed the trolls. this isn't GD. stop shitting up threads. contribute or get out.
Then do something about it.

STONEDSTONER
07-29-2006, 04:32 AM
My opinion is that Stonedstoner is a colossal faggot.

in my opinion your should stop eating babys and overpopulating every country

Dark Mage626
07-29-2006, 09:09 AM
in my opinion your should stop eating babys and overpopulating every country
If he's eating babies would that kinda stop over populating the country. :(

Anywayway if buy the end of this whole thread which I mostly didnt bother to read through even though I dont own the game myself you could always check out IGNs review or perhaps Gamespot...or any over gaming website.

I quite liked Praks summary of the game. Except for the completion in 10 hours thing. But he still did say challenging bosses and extra mission thingies. So Prak has me wanting the game.

I think if you ignore all the other FFs, from what I've heard, FFX-2 is a good game and worth buying.

CosmoKing
07-29-2006, 12:43 PM
in my opinion your should stop eating babys and overpopulating every country

In my opinion you are a cunt.

Ultimadream
08-03-2006, 08:18 PM
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adieu.
08-03-2006, 08:37 PM
final fantasy x-2 was garbage.
:-(

Hex Omega
08-03-2006, 08:43 PM
Care to explain why? Oh and don't say that the characters dress like whores, it doesn't feel like a FF or some retarded shit like that. We've had tons of people come in and spout shit like that and be put in their place.

adieu.
08-03-2006, 08:50 PM
i thought the gameplay was bad
100% completion was pointless
WAY too easy
storyline wasn't all that great.. i didn't think FFX needed a sequel
the fact that Brother hit on Yuna was creepy (seeing as how they're cousins)
half the time the things you had to do in the game had nothing to do with yuna finding tidus (ex: saving the temples from the monsters)

it was cool that you could jump, though. i liked that.

Prak
08-03-2006, 09:13 PM
That is a perfect example of a person disliking the game for retarded reasons.

Olde
08-03-2006, 11:50 PM
i thought the gameplay was bad
100% completion was pointless
storyline wasn't all that great... i didn't think FFX needed a sequel

it was cool that you could jump, though. i liked that.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

jewess crabcake
08-04-2006, 12:08 AM
it was cool that you could jump, though. i liked that.
ROFL that made my day, and I said before FFx-2 was a good game my dislikes were due to the reason no sequel was needed, and they came up with the dumbest thing to create the new danger.

Agent0042
08-04-2006, 12:22 AM
:) "Well, overall, I gotta say it was a pretty crappy game. I didn't like it at all. I have to give though --- it did have one saving grace --- you could jump!"


Jump! Jump! It makes ya' wanna Jump! Jump!

KATY FUCKING PERRY
08-04-2006, 12:30 AM
FF X-2 is good in my opinion, in particular the battle mechanics are excellent; easy to learn, fun to master, and no more CTB-breaking. The story concept is fine; it's the execution of that concept which is disconcerting. It's REALLY easy to skip most of the game's contents, be careful about that. There is also an intense focus on participation in mini-games. Not that mini-games are bad in and of themselves, I just find that I personally lack the patience to play all of them; many people love that part of the game, so that might be a selling point rather than a deterrent. It would've been better if Paine and 'the boys' had been alluded to in the original FFX, but I'm betting that wasn't possible.

Definitely give the game a play.

adieu.
08-04-2006, 04:47 AM
That is a perfect example of a person disliking the game for retarded reasons.

explain.

Prak
08-04-2006, 02:42 PM
i thought the gameplay was bad

This line alone kills your credibility. Only a total fool would say X-2 had bad gameplay, at least compared to the other FF games.


100% completion was pointless

It also wasn't necessary, so that point is rather moot.


WAY too easy

None of the FF games since the SNES era have had anything resembling a measure of difficulty. Point fails.


storyline wasn't all that great.. i didn't think FFX needed a sequel

Double fail on this one. For one thing, you say the story "wasn't all that great." That does not mean that the story was bad. A game with a mediocre story behind it that plays well can still be excellent. Look at most of the Mario and Zelda games for proof of that.


the fact that Brother hit on Yuna was creepy (seeing as how they're cousins)

That doesn't make the game bad.


half the time the things you had to do in the game had nothing to do with yuna finding tidus (ex: saving the temples from the monsters)

The game wasn't about Yuna finding Tidus. That was a rather small plot thread in the greater scheme of things.

Every one of those arguments was absolute bunk. If you didn't like it, that's all well and good. I not telling you that you should. However, there is a big difference between a bad game and a game you merely don't like.

adieu.
08-04-2006, 03:00 PM
well, all my opinion, so.
whoever started this thread: just buy the game and see for yourself.
people are either in love with this game, or cringe when they hear about it, but it all comes down to what you think. so go for it.
:smrt:

STONEDSTONER
08-09-2006, 10:36 AM
prak loves cock

nothing more nothing less

CosmoKing
08-09-2006, 12:28 PM
prak loves cock

nothing more nothing less

You are a cunt.

NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.

Prak
08-09-2006, 02:52 PM
prak loves cock

nothing more nothing less

Moo.

The Lost One
08-09-2006, 03:03 PM
Omg why is it that most newbies these days cause nothing but trouble,
Stonedstoner, go fuck yourself with one of those joints that seem to totally consume your pityful life, with no social contact or any reason to continue living whatsoever?