Sarah
06-17-2006, 11:57 AM
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152862.html

pretty hilarious.

did sony ever officially state what the msrp would be for games, by the way?

hb smokey
06-17-2006, 12:51 PM
PS3 bundle for $1000

or

Wii, with all the controllers, and 12-15 games, for $1000

Avinite
06-17-2006, 12:59 PM
I'm very pissed off about the price, it's true.

However, for me, playing FFXII, XIV and whatever may come is worth it.

Blameless
06-17-2006, 02:06 PM
PS3 bundle for $1000

or

Wii, with all the controllers, and 12-15 games, for $1000

Or new computer, or car, or shotgun and sidearm...

Denny
06-17-2006, 02:09 PM
$1000?

Do Sony really see that as a realistic price?

chewey
06-17-2006, 02:11 PM
The games you get in that bundle are entirely excellent.

Blameless
06-17-2006, 02:19 PM
Do Sony really see that as a realistic price?

Does Sony have a firm grasp of reality?

Anyway, I suspect 899 or 999 for the US bundle.

KREAYSHAWN
06-17-2006, 02:33 PM
lol.

Hex Omega
06-17-2006, 03:13 PM
They have gone quite mad Sony.

hb smokey
06-17-2006, 04:29 PM
Or new computer, or car, or shotgun and sidearm...
Id prefer a shotgun and sidearm to fulfill my murderous ways anyday.

Andyuk
06-17-2006, 07:00 PM
i heard you can preorder the ps3 in the UK soon, it will be £550 over here, however ive got no details on what else you may or may not get with it.

Desert Wolf
06-17-2006, 07:03 PM
Well ill be waiting until the price comes down or else ill have to rob one off the back of a lorry.

Valerie Valens
06-17-2006, 09:13 PM
Jesus fucking christ, that's fucking insane....

matt damon
06-17-2006, 09:42 PM
what a ridiculous price. and the games that come with it are so crappy.

lenneth
06-17-2006, 10:25 PM
this is a bad bad move. yeah, people will still buy it, but I think they'll lose out on a majority of their demographic.

looks like im going to be sucking some wii

Sarah
06-17-2006, 10:34 PM
haha.

Swedish Fish
06-17-2006, 11:09 PM
$1000. Sony just wants to die in the gaming industry doesn't it. I used to have a certain bit of respect for them.

TK
06-18-2006, 04:11 AM
$1000?

Do Sony really see that as a realistic price?

Well, why shouldn't they? It's not like there's no precedent for it! Just think back to the CD-I.

ametc1
06-18-2006, 04:25 AM
[QUOTE=Mr.Denny]$1000?

Do Sony really see that as a realistic price?[/QUOTEi]


i don't know if anyone has said this, because i can't be stuffed reading this thread, but the bluray drive costs something around $1000 anyway, and the bluray drive is the PS3 drive, plus the graphics, frekkin' hell

TK
06-18-2006, 04:36 AM
That does not make it any more affordable.

And if you can't be stuffed reading the thread, I would recommend not being stuffed replying, either.

KaMoDiAn
06-18-2006, 04:42 AM
aren't they already losing money for selling the PS3 alone for 800$? ah well..
maybe some spoiled kid will get one for christmas and not like it. resulting me finding one in the trash on my way to the bus stop that morning. or a more likely scenerio of them underpricing it on ebay. or.. who am i kidding, let's go rob that lorry.

what's with the bundle? "The three games included are Warhawk, Formula One 06, and SingStar--perfect for gamers who like air combat, driving, and karaoke games." (Gamespot, 2006). not perfect for anybody else, especially ppl who seek storyline. i'm not too fond of any of those games.. in fact, watching ppl play war games, driving and singing doesn't really appeal to me at all.

i could just drive with my story-telling veteran neighbour to the karaoke bar after rush-hour traffic, and have twice as much fun! bleh to sony, you disappoint me.

Valerie Valens
06-18-2006, 04:43 AM
$1000?

Do Sony really see that as a realistic price?


i don't know if anyone has said this, because i can't be stuffed reading this thread, but the bluray drive costs something around $1000 anyway, and the bluray drive is the PS3 drive, plus the graphics, frekkin' hell

Fuck the blue ray! DVDs does the job of storing games just fine for now, there is no real need to bloat games to a million gigabytes of polygon data. And to extrapolate on what TK said, you can go get stuffed.


looks like im going to be sucking some wii

haha lol

KaMoDiAn
06-18-2006, 04:49 AM
oh wait, isn't there also something about us not owning the rights of the games? so we don't have the right to sell the games we do not want to keep?

Django
06-18-2006, 04:59 AM
i dont think thats official yet
would be pretty suicidal if they would do it tho

TK
06-18-2006, 07:28 AM
oh wait, isn't there also something about us not owning the rights of the games? so we don't have the right to sell the games we do not want to keep?

No, there's no substance to that, it's just a dumb rumor that a bunch of people hopped on because they were eager for some more anti-PS3 shit to sling.

Sarah
06-18-2006, 12:37 PM
No, there's no substance to that, it's just a dumb rumor that a bunch of people hopped on because they were eager for some more anti-PS3 shit to sling.
just because it hasn't been officially announced by sony doesn't mean people just pulled it out of thin air.

it's no secret that the video game industry is upset that they're losing potential sales via the used game market. it wouldn't surprise me in the least if sony does something to stop this.

Valerie Valens
06-18-2006, 05:49 PM
just because it hasn't been officially announced by sony doesn't mean people just pulled it out of thin air.

it's no secret that the video game industry is upset that they're losing potential sales via the used game market. it wouldn't surprise me in the least if sony does something to stop this.

Correction : ATTEMPT to stop or reduce this. Just because it was made illegal doesn't mean it will stop happening.

lenneth
06-18-2006, 06:05 PM
"The three games included are Warhawk, Formula One 06, and SingStar--perfect for gamers who like air combat, driving, and karaoke games."

I think Gamestop snuck that in there to point out how ridiculous the combination of games is.

Swedish Fish
06-18-2006, 06:06 PM
Correction : ATTEMPT to stop or reduce this. Just because it was made illegal doesn't mean it will stop happening.

Very true. If I were to get a PS3, there is absolutely no way Sony could stop me from buying a game from a friend.

Sarah
06-18-2006, 06:24 PM
Correction : ATTEMPT to stop or reduce this. Just because it was made illegal doesn't mean it will stop happening.
if it's made illegal the bulk of it will disappear. no more used PS3 games in EB, in ebay, on half.com. that's a huge, huge chunk.

not to mention there are technical ways they could accomplish the same thing anyway.

matt damon
06-18-2006, 08:53 PM
i read an article that talked about all that. it makes sense, but the companies are getting a tad bit greedy. i mean, we buy the games, so i think we have a right to sell them. when you buy a house, the house doesn't remain in the possession of the previous owner. if you want to sell the house after you buy it, they previous owner can't be like, "wait now, it's still my house. you can't sell it to someone else." such bull crap.

Blameless
06-18-2006, 09:45 PM
Well technically, in most cases concerning software, you are buying permision to use it.

It's still retarded, but it's not exactly the same as purely material property.

ametc1
06-19-2006, 10:06 AM
That does not make it any more affordable.

And if you can't be stuffed reading the thread, I would recommend not being stuffed replying, either.


Last time i checked, i didn't say that it was more affordable because of the blu-ray. I just said that because from my view it was like as if everyone was saying PS3 was a total rip off. I was just saying that it was not like sony were trying to rip everyone off, that they are trying to make the price as low as possible without lossing a lot of money.

And also about the whole can't be stuffed thing, I was just saying that because sometimes i might miss something in a thread and say something that's already been said.

Cloud On A Stick
06-19-2006, 12:17 PM
i read an article that talked about all that. it makes sense, but the companies are getting a tad bit greedy. i mean, we buy the games, so i think we have a right to sell them. when you buy a house, the house doesn't remain in the possession of the previous owner. if you want to sell the house after you buy it, they previous owner can't be like, "wait now, it's still my house. you can't sell it to someone else." such bull crap.

lol thats a good example...if u buy it...it is now your property and belongs 2 u...u can sell it u can brake it u can play frisebie with your dog...the game and cd now belong 2 u. if they wanted to u shouild beable to sell it bak 2 the company so they can package it up and sell it new if they wanted 2...now every1 is happy.

about that blu-ray piece of shit...if Sony tryed lowering the price 4 all of us 2 try and make it convieniet 2 buy take out your damned blu-ray and put sumthin else in there...could som1 please tell me what this...blu-ray...is supposed 2 do?

Swedish Fish
06-19-2006, 01:35 PM
Last time i checked, i didn't say that it was more affordable because of the blu-ray. I just said that because from my view it was like as if everyone was saying PS3 was a total rip off. I was just saying that it was not like sony were trying to rip everyone off, that they are trying to make the price as low as possible without lossing a lot of money.

Well, the price would be signifigantly lower if Sony hadn't gotten the bright idea to use blu-ray. If Sony's luck runs out now this system will end up like the Super Famicon (I think that's the one). Sony botched the whole project by adding in some new hardware to make the games run faster and look better, but it jacked up the price and people wouldn't have it. Imagine if that happened to Sony again. They would be out of the running completely.

TK
06-19-2006, 10:22 PM
just because it hasn't been officially announced by sony doesn't mean people just pulled it out of thin air.

it's no secret that the video game industry is upset that they're losing potential sales via the used game market. it wouldn't surprise me in the least if sony does something to stop this.

Just because it wasn't pulled out of thin air doesn't mean there's any reason to think it will happen.

It should come as a surprise to you if Sony tries to stop reselling of their games because they would be raping the people who sell their games right up the ass and nobody is crazy enough to do that, not even the same retards who thought that they could get away with selling the Phillips CD-I at $1000.


Last time i checked, i didn't say that it was more affordable because of the blu-ray. I just said that because from my view it was like as if everyone was saying PS3 was a total rip off. I was just saying that it was not like sony were trying to rip everyone off, that they are trying to make the price as low as possible without lossing a lot of money.

And also about the whole can't be stuffed thing, I was just saying that because sometimes i might miss something in a thread and say something that's already been said.

My point was that just because a person may be getting their money's worth for a PS3, it doesn't mean that they are going to buy one. I don't doubt I'd be getting my money's worth if I bought a $2,000 Gibson SG, but I don't have $2,000, and if I did it would be going towards car insurance and school tuition. Sony can fill the PS3 with as many things as it wants and "make the price as low as possible without lossing a lot of money," but if the price is still $1,000 for a complete package, people are still not going to be able to afford it. End of story.

Nobody's accusing them of ripping anybody off. We're accusing them of pricing their system at a point where a huge chunk of their user base can't buy one.

KaMoDiAn
06-19-2006, 11:08 PM
wait.. are they selling packages only now or something? i'm confused.

more people would want it if the package included games everybody wanted. but they need to make more money at the beginning, so on top of the grand you're spending, you pay a bit more to buy three more games you actually will play.

ametc1
06-20-2006, 07:08 AM
Just because it wasn't pulled out of thin air doesn't mean there's any reason to think it will happen.

It should come as a surprise to you if Sony tries to stop reselling of their games because they would be raping the people who sell their games right up the ass and nobody is crazy enough to do that, not even the same retards who thought that they could get away with selling the Phillips CD-I at $1000.



My point was that just because a person may be getting their money's worth for a PS3, it doesn't mean that they are going to buy one. I don't doubt I'd be getting my money's worth if I bought a $2,000 Gibson SG, but I don't have $2,000, and if I did it would be going towards car insurance and school tuition. Sony can fill the PS3 with as many things as it wants and "make the price as low as possible without lossing a lot of money," but if the price is still $1,000 for a complete package, people are still not going to be able to afford it. End of story.

Nobody's accusing them of ripping anybody off. We're accusing them of pricing their system at a point where a huge chunk of their user base can't buy one.



good point, thanks for correcting me.

ametc1
06-20-2006, 07:11 AM
I've come up with a hope for PS3. In Australia, the ps2 went down by $200 within 6 months. Personally, i hope this happens with the PS3, so then it will be slightly more affordable.

IDX
06-20-2006, 07:25 AM
oh wait, isn't there also something about us not owning the rights of the games? so we don't have the right to sell the games we do not want to keep?
It was in an article I read somewhere that they were thinking of doing that. Then a shit load of comments on this article were talking about it would be stupid because then they can't rent any games, get rid of the crappy games without throwing it away, can't borrow friends games, etc. So in the end, I think it would be an incredibly stupid move. Don't get me wrong that I want the PS3 more than the stupid Wii (never was a big fan of Nintendo) or 360. But if everything goes to shit for the PS3, even after the price drops to a more reasonable amount, then I'll get the Xbox 360.

Prak
06-20-2006, 02:21 PM
You lose 100,000 cool points for calling the Wii stupid. Since your cool point tally was barely in double digits to begin with, you officially suck.

CRUNCH BAR
06-20-2006, 05:33 PM
You lose 100,000 cool points for calling the Wii stupid. Since your cool point tally was barely in double digits to begin with, you officially suck.
He lost all of his damn points for that comment.

Prak
06-20-2006, 05:41 PM
If you'll read my comment again, it says that he went into the negatives.

Cloud On A Stick
06-20-2006, 08:42 PM
You lose 100,000 cool points for calling the Wii stupid. Since your cool point tally was barely in double digits to begin with, you officially suck.

Wii is the gayest name ever...who the hell calls a system wii? wii is the sound u make wen u go down a slide...revolution is much better...wat was the reasoning 4 changing it 2 wii?

Swedish Fish
06-20-2006, 08:50 PM
Does the name really matter?

Prak
06-20-2006, 08:52 PM
Cloud on a stick: To appeal to a broader audience, of course. The name precisely what it's intended to do, make it more recognizable to people who don't ordinarily play games.

Also, next time you think about replying to anything I say with that kind of pathetic grammar, just fuck off instead.

Valerie Valens
06-20-2006, 08:53 PM
It grabs your attention. And gay or not, I love the name better than Revolution, because Wii is a fun name, WII! is what you yell out when you're having fun, so why not associate that with theit console? Revolution is a pretentious sounding name anyways.

matt damon
06-20-2006, 09:23 PM
question: with the blue ray thing, will we still be able to play like, ps2 and ps1 games in the ps3?


Revolution is a pretentious sounding name anyways.
YES!!!! my thoughts exactly

Swedish Fish
06-20-2006, 09:33 PM
question: with the blue ray thing, will we still be able to play like, ps2 and ps1 games in the ps3?

Yes. Backwards compatibility is one the only things going for it right now.

hb smokey
06-20-2006, 11:15 PM
Wii is the gayest name ever...who the hell calls a system wii? wii is the sound u make wen u go down a slide...revolution is much better...wat was the reasoning 4 changing it 2 wii?
I've grown to accept Wii, I've grown to believe its a great name for their console. They are appealing to more than the traditional gamer. They are appealing to the non-gamer as well, so they want to get everyone involved. And since this console is unique from the other two, Nintendo is saying that 'Wii' (not just the console but the company themselves), is going to take gaming into the next generation of fun.

Blameless
06-20-2006, 11:54 PM
I really couldn't care less what it's called, as long as it's worth the money.

IDX
06-21-2006, 11:46 PM
You lose 100,000 cool points for calling the Wii stupid. Since your cool point tally was barely in double digits to begin with, you officially suck.
So now I'm not intitled to my own opinion? Or are you just revoking my rights as a human being. Man, that makes you cool now doesn't it?

hb smokey
06-21-2006, 11:50 PM
So now I'm not intitled to my own opinion? Or are you just revoking my rights as a human being. Man, that makes you cool now doesn't it?
There's a difference between being entitled to an opinion, and just being a dumbass.

IDX
06-22-2006, 12:02 AM
If I was a dumbass, I would just flat out say Nintendo sucks. But I'm not because there's a few things that I like about Nintendo, just the new system doesn't appeal to me.

Hex Omega
06-22-2006, 12:07 AM
I'm clearly a dumbass, as the Wii doesn't appeal to me.

Desert Wolf
06-22-2006, 10:58 AM
I wonder if the wii will sell more than the PS3. I dont know about games for it but so far it has a better controller and a better price.

pedo mc tax me softly, black person (whom i love)
06-22-2006, 12:43 PM
stuff about people jumping on PS3 hating wagon rumor about not being able to resell the games.

Kind of like bitching about the pricing when they are already undercutting production costs for the thing by nearly 50%.

And concerning the "OH NO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO RESELL THE GAMES" bullshit--that already happens with every single PC game on the market, yet it flourishes among those that play them. Come off it.

Hex Omega
06-22-2006, 04:19 PM
I wonder if the wii will sell more than the PS3. I dont know about games for it but so far it has a better controller and a better price.

I'd be surprised if it didn't, what with the much smaller price-tag and a few decent games in the works.

hb smokey
06-22-2006, 04:32 PM
I'd be surprised if it didn't, what with the much smaller price-tag and a few decent games in the works.
There's more than a few decent games in the works my friend. And a lot of people seem to be forgetting all the old Nintendo games that you'll be able to play on the Wii.

Hex Omega
06-22-2006, 04:56 PM
And a lot of people seem to be forgetting all the old Nintendo games that you'll be able to play on the Wii.

<3 <3 <3

Valerie Valens
06-22-2006, 08:03 PM
If I was a dumbass, I would just flat out say Nintendo sucks. But I'm not because there's a few things that I like about Nintendo, just the new system doesn't appeal to me.

You may have the right to say that, but everyone has just as much right to kiss you upside the head with the dipshit baseball bat for saying that.

Sackboy
06-22-2006, 11:44 PM
Play.com is selling the PlayStation 3 with the 60GB hard drive and three games for 549 pounds, roughly $1,016. The three games included are Warhawk, Formula One 06, and SingStar--perfect for gamers who like air combat, driving, and karaoke games.

PLAY.COM is selling the bundle. not sony. THEY are probobly trying to make a few extra bucks on something they probobly think will be in high demand and low supply.

TK
06-23-2006, 04:11 AM
Point is that a complete PS3 package will run you about a thousand bucks, regardless of who you're getting it from.

pedo mc tax me softly, black person (whom i love)
06-26-2006, 11:59 AM
Point is that a complete PS3 package will run you about a thousand bucks, regardless of who you're getting it from.


It will also cost Sony double that amount to produce the hardware alone, what is your point?

Pos
06-26-2006, 01:21 PM
if it's made illegal the bulk of it will disappear. no more used PS3 games in EB, in ebay, on half.com. that's a huge, huge chunk.

not to mention there are technical ways they could accomplish the same thing anyway.


We have shops here called Gamestation, Game and Computer exchange to name a few. That sell new games. But also have a large range of traded in games. Are these also becoming illegal to sell?

Meet the Jim
06-26-2006, 01:56 PM
Sony needs the employees that decided the PS3 should be $1000
to line up in a row, and get thier faces melted by a flame thrower, then tied to the back of a truck and draged 10 miles down a bumpy stone road. Then thier remains will be fed to the dog who has tape worm! Ha Ha Ha.(Ok, mabye that was a little harsh...... Nah!)

hb smokey
06-27-2006, 07:05 PM
It will also cost Sony double that amount to produce the hardware alone, what is your point?
Customers don't give a shit what it costs to produce the hardware.