Hak
12-07-2005, 12:40 PM
okay, watching ff7ac kind of left us a hint, a bug one, and i havent seen a post on it so i guess im just going to have to say it. At the end of the movie we see cloud in Aeris's Church, he looks around and there she is, she turns around and walks off, next to her is who i think is ment to be zack, maybe i dunno, Aeris was ment to be with Zack, being together and all, i think it boils down to cloud with tifa, and Aeris with Zack, anyone got any ideas or other devolpments? anyone able to prove me wrong? somethnig i havent realised, jsut wanted to see if what im thinking is right.

SuperNova
12-07-2005, 02:15 PM
ive never seen ffac and youve just ruined the neding for me BUT

i though i should be the first one to post in this thread!

Halo
12-07-2005, 02:23 PM
Well yeah Aeris(&#$&&$^&^@) is with Zack and Tifa(:D:D:D) is with Cloud!!!

P.S Aeris Sucks Tifa rules

Metal Maniac
12-07-2005, 02:37 PM
Well yeah Aeris(&#$&&$^&^@) is with Zack and Tifa(:D:D:D) is with Cloud!!!

P.S Aeris Sucks Tifa rules


Finaly the truth comes out! -

chewey
12-07-2005, 02:39 PM
Well yeah Aeris(&#$&&$^&^@) is with Zack and Tifa(:D:D:D) is with Cloud!!!

P.S Aeris Sucks Tifa rules
Oh so you have been to aerissuckstifa.com too.

Metal Maniac
12-07-2005, 02:42 PM
Oh so you have been to aerissuckstifa.com too.

Sounds like a hentai site.

Halo
12-07-2005, 02:46 PM
Oh so you have been to aerissuckstifa.com too.
Nah iv been to aerissucksmy****.com :p

Swedish Fish
12-07-2005, 11:34 PM
Wow. I've never heard the Aeirs Theory. Heard the Aeris Theory, but not the Aeirs Theory. But both are crap in any case. Actually it probably has something to do with the fact that Aeris and Zack are dead for good, but happy where they are. And actually most everyone in the gaming world (that I know/heard of) designates Cloud and Aeris as the main FFVII couple, not Cloud and Tifa. Just find the 10 saddest video game couples on the internet. I think that they are #6.

Kie
12-08-2005, 09:37 AM
So the theory is that Aeris is meant to be with Zack? I think i followed it correctly. Cait Sith said Aeris and Cloud were meant to be together but oh well, Zack's good enough in the afterlife i suppose.

lol FF_Fanatic, it's also a "bug" hint apparantly. This guy from New Zealand or what? Hey iloveaeris, you should copy your username's spelling once in a while.

Hak
12-08-2005, 12:12 PM
i kinda type to quickly, it really shows that some people dont change lol, ffshrine is still how it used to be. Nice to know people still dont stick to the topic and try to sway off into an arguement (:

Kie
12-08-2005, 12:38 PM
lol actually it used to be much better than this, back in the day...but hey, ya gotta keep with the times. But respect the fact that proper spelling helps people not only understand you, but also not think you're a n00b :)

Also, i don't remember you, so when were you here last?

Hak
12-08-2005, 01:04 PM
aaint been on in ages, like 4 months, long time, yeah it was better, still argueing, but hey, it was good

Kie
12-08-2005, 02:49 PM
By back in the day, i meant like, 2002 lol, but oh well... Tifa > Aeris

Swedish Fish
12-09-2005, 02:04 AM
Tifa > Aeris

Not this again

Halo
12-09-2005, 06:05 PM
oh well... Tifa > Aeris
HELL DAMN YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Swedish Fish
12-09-2005, 06:58 PM
Can't we stay away from talking about how much bigger Tifa's tits are than Aeris'? At least for a week?

Nightowl9910
12-10-2005, 02:00 AM
Cloud and Tifa didn't seem that close during that film though, not from what I saw. I couldn't understand a word of AC granted because I watched the Japanese version but from what I could tell they weren't acting particularly romantically towards each other.

My personal opinion, from looking at the end, is that Cloud is still very much in love with Aeris but is bitter as now he knows it can't ever go anywhere.

As a result of that I think it's possible that in the future he'll just be a bit of a loner when it comes to women. He'll still spend time with the people he cares about like family i.e Barret, Marlene, Tifa, Denzel etc but I got the feeling in AC he'd become a pretty private person and that none of them are people he ever totally opens up to, Tifa included.

FF1WithAllThieves
12-10-2005, 03:46 AM
Can't we stay away from talking about how much bigger Tifa's tits are than Aeris'? At least for a week?

I'm assuming that's a rhetorical question. I know you don't need an answer.

MsAeris
12-10-2005, 08:59 AM
Does this site allow spoiler tags? I think you should have used them.

The flim got a lot of people thinking. But just because Aeris and Zack are both dead doesn't mean that they were meant to be together.

Not many people know this, but Tifa wasn't even supposed to be in the original FF game... It was just gonna be Cloud, Barret and Aeris. I have the proof as I have the original Japanese magazine scans of how the game was developing; with the last minute additions. Even in the first original FFVII Soundtrack, it only had images of Cloud, Aeris and Barret; in original Amano and official art. Bah, I'll just stop because I doubt some people would read this.

SuperNova
12-12-2005, 11:59 AM
Can't we stay away from talking about how much bigger Tifa's tits are than Aeris'? At least for a week?

LOL but isnt the point that non of them are real!

Halo
12-12-2005, 01:55 PM
Does this site allow spoiler tags? I think you should have used them.

The flim got a lot of people thinking. But just because Aeris and Zack are both dead doesn't mean that they were meant to be together.

Not many people know this, but Tifa wasn't even supposed to be in the original FF game... It was just gonna be Cloud, Barret and Aeris. I have the proof as I have the original Japanese magazine scans of how the game was developing; with the last minute additions. Even in the first original FFVII Soundtrack, it only had images of Cloud, Aeris and Barret; in original Amano and official art. Bah, I'll just stop because I doubt some people would read this.
Hmm one question HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED FF7??????

And i have proof from Sakaguchi sayng that Tifa is was the second designed character in FF7 after Cloud....

Kie
12-12-2005, 02:16 PM
Cloud and Tifa didn't seem that close during that film though, not from what I saw. I couldn't understand a word of AC granted because I watched the Japanese version but from what I could tell they weren't acting particularly romantically towards each other.

Don't you have subtitles? They're definitely together as a couple in Advent Children. Although i wouldn't have minded seeing one kiss somewhere or one show of affection besides smiles :P

FF_Fanatic, it ain't all about the tits, Tifa had longer lastability than Aeris too, in that she didn't die. Course Cloud never really liked Aeris imo.

Halo
12-12-2005, 02:20 PM
Don't you have subtitles? They're definitely together as a couple in Advent Children. Although i wouldn't have minded seeing one kiss somewhere or one show of affection besides smiles :P

FF_Fanatic, it ain't all about the tits, Tifa had longer lastability than Aeris too, in that she didn't die. Course Cloud never really liked Aeris imo.
Go for it EXPLAIN TO THOSE N00BS who still thinks that Cloud liked Aeris....

P.S Aeris=qq gg ffs and so on

Metal Maniac
12-12-2005, 02:32 PM
Wow people are stupid Sepheroth killed areis. DUH

SuperNova
12-12-2005, 02:42 PM
CLOUD LIKE ARIES??? £&*$"^*£$^"£*(""£"£???

Metal Maniac
12-12-2005, 02:43 PM
Couldn't you see that wile playing the game it is fucking obvious!

Kie
12-12-2005, 03:59 PM
I think he respected her, not liked her. He got upset, like anyone would at death, doesn't mean he liked her.

And to MsAeris, if anyone reading this didn't know that Aeris died in FF7, they don't deserve to be on the FF7 board.

one-winged angel
12-12-2005, 04:23 PM
i dont think Aeris was ment to be with zack i'm shure we'll find out

i dont think Aeris was ment to be with zack,
i'm shure we'll find out

woops

Raidenex
12-12-2005, 04:39 PM
don't post 'woops' after you accidentally double post.

it just makes you look like someone who is deliberately spamming to up their post count.

also: you all are reading WAY too much into the evidence that's actually there. All we know from FF7 and AC is this:

Cloud liked Tifa, around the time he hit puberty. Probably for the same reason most FF fanboys are fixated on her.

Cloud leaves Tifa, making one of those crappy teenage promises that rarely mean anything.

Cloud practically leaves Tifa to die in Nibelheim, so he CAN GET REVENGE. gj.

Fast forward to FF7.

Cloud likes Aeris.

Aeris sorta likes Cloud, but has hangups about Zack.

Tifa not really interested in Cloud, 'cause sorta freaked out about seeing him again.

Aeris dies. omg spoilers.

Cloud goes into Romeo and Juliet mode. ie, his love was unrequited in life, therefore it must be requited in death. He must avenge his fair maiden. etc. etc.

Tifa is strongest female presence, still with largest boobs. Cloud = emotional wreck + Y chromosome. Hence, just before the battle against the big bad at the crater, he and Tifa have a "oh my god, we're gonna die anyway" fuck.

Fast forward to AC, and we have Tifa and Cloud who apparently live together with a few kids. Aww. Except Cloud isn't there, he's being all "When will Cloud come home". My hypothesis? Cloud and Tifa expected to die, they didn't. Aeris is dead, but Cloud still has a huge part of him jonesing for her. However, Tifa is a warm body + large breasts, so he figures he may as well make the most of his life.

All throughout AC, we've got Aeris appearing to Cloud in his dreams. And then by the end, she walks off with Zack. Cloud has severe identity issues - he gets himself confused with Zack a lot. The fact that he's not dead (Cloud, that is) makes his life a lot easier, because he can go back and bang Tifa without an uncomfortable Aeris / Zack / Cloud love triangle.

It's all so very cliche =/

Rude666
12-12-2005, 04:44 PM
I think in VII Cloud liked Aries and Aries liked Cloud (I don't like that)
Also I think Tifa liked Cloud but not visa-versa

In AC I think Cloud has feelings for Aries but now that she is dead he basically doesnt like her as much.
But I dont think Tifa and Cloud are a couple even though they both like each other (I like that)

Prak
12-12-2005, 05:54 PM
if anyone reading this didn't know that Aeris died in FF7, they don't deserve to be on the FF7 board.

Way to sound like an elitist cunt.

Tidus 66
12-12-2005, 05:59 PM
Raidenex just gave the best explanation so far

Rude666
12-12-2005, 06:11 PM
Only cuse she/he can bothered to write loads of stuff

Kie
12-13-2005, 12:34 PM
Raidenex, clearly you haven't read Tifa's Story which comes with On A Way to a Smile.

Raidenex
12-13-2005, 04:59 PM
Haven't been stuffed, actually.

Everything up to that point is accurate, though.

lostphoenix
12-13-2005, 08:04 PM
ive never seen ffac and youve just ruined the neding for me BUT

i though i should be the first one to post in this thread!

thats not the full, ending though, just a small part of it, plus that information isnt very useful, without the rest of the film to back it up anyway, so dont worry. As for the film, well ive seen the Jap version, with English Subtitles, its great, so is the quality, dvd rip, so ive burned it on to a dvd. cant wait for the UK version on DVD when its out, ill get it, along with the OST.

lostphoenix
12-13-2005, 08:09 PM
don't post 'woops' after you accidentally double post.

it just makes you look like someone who is deliberately spamming to up their post count.

also: you all are reading WAY too much into the evidence that's actually there. All we know from FF7 and AC is this:

Cloud liked Tifa, around the time he hit puberty. Probably for the same reason most FF fanboys are fixated on her.

Cloud leaves Tifa, making one of those crappy teenage promises that rarely mean anything.

Cloud practically leaves Tifa to die in Nibelheim, so he CAN GET REVENGE. gj.

Fast forward to FF7.

Cloud likes Aeris.

Aeris sorta likes Cloud, but has hangups about Zack.

Tifa not really interested in Cloud, 'cause sorta freaked out about seeing him again.

Aeris dies. omg spoilers.

Cloud goes into Romeo and Juliet mode. ie, his love was unrequited in life, therefore it must be requited in death. He must avenge his fair maiden. etc. etc.

Tifa is strongest female presence, still with largest boobs. Cloud = emotional wreck + Y chromosome. Hence, just before the battle against the big bad at the crater, he and Tifa have a "oh my god, we're gonna die anyway" fuck.

Fast forward to AC, and we have Tifa and Cloud who apparently live together with a few kids. Aww. Except Cloud isn't there, he's being all "When will Cloud come home". My hypothesis? Cloud and Tifa expected to die, they didn't. Aeris is dead, but Cloud still has a huge part of him jonesing for her. However, Tifa is a warm body + large breasts, so he figures he may as well make the most of his life.

All throughout AC, we've got Aeris appearing to Cloud in his dreams. And then by the end, she walks off with Zack. Cloud has severe identity issues - he gets himself confused with Zack a lot. The fact that he's not dead (Cloud, that is) makes his life a lot easier, because he can go back and bang Tifa without an uncomfortable Aeris / Zack / Cloud love triangle.

It's all so very cliche =/
lol very nice synopsis :P, but yeah who is that little kid, with the messy brown hair, and has the virus? is that clouds son?

Denny
12-13-2005, 08:12 PM
lol very nice synopsis :P, but yeah who is that little kid, with the messy brown hair, and has the virus? is that clouds son?

Denzel isn`t Clouds son. Read the first part of "on a way to a smile" (Thread 25356) to find out his past.

Kie
12-14-2005, 09:38 AM
See, reading helps a lot sometimes.

Raidenex
12-14-2005, 11:33 AM
See, reading helps a lot sometimes.

You know, I don't remember you being such an arrogant prick back in the day =/

Sarah
12-14-2005, 12:22 PM
for what it's worth regarding the Aeris thing, I always interpreted it a bit differently.

Aeris was flirting with Cloud quite openly in the beginning (the bodyguard thing, mainly). when Tifa showed up Aeris toned things down because she wasn't sure what the deal was exactly between the two of them; by the time she figured out that they definitely weren't "together" she realized that there was romantic tension between them, and therefor decided not to pursue Cloud further.

I think she was trying to not alienate Tifa or put Cloud in an odd position with her, since they had bigger things to worry about at the moment.

lostphoenix
12-14-2005, 01:06 PM
Denzel isn`t Clouds son. Read the first part of "on a way to a smile" (Thread 25356) to find out his past.
thanks Dirge, didnt come across that thread

Metal Maniac
12-14-2005, 02:19 PM
Any ways Cloud can't have a son cause he like Tifa and nothing happened coz they were kids then thet were to bizzy killing Jenova and Sephiroth do do any thing.

Rude666
12-14-2005, 04:22 PM
I didnt get that, could you explain that more clearly.

lostphoenix
12-14-2005, 06:07 PM
Any ways Cloud can't have a son cause he like Tifa and nothing happened coz they were kids then thet were to bizzy killing Jenova and Sephiroth do do any thing.
fair point, i never really thought of that tbh. could have happened on that night where they slepped together on that rock or whatever though :P just kiding

luna_stellar
12-30-2005, 01:39 AM
jeezz not about who deserves cloud topic AGAIN!!!??

1)Aeris is DEAD...in the lifestream...so unless there's a continuition for ffAC where aeris will suddenlly just come back to life....cloud and aeris can't be together physically but maybe spiritually....
2)Cloud needs to move on......
3)Tifa is just a friend....maybe but haven't you heard story that friendship can turn to love.....and if cloud doesn't fall for tifa...well it's his loss and vincent's win......

Destai
10-31-2007, 01:27 PM
This is just confirming what people with common sense have known for years. Aeris is dead which is gonna put a pretty big obstacle in the relationship unless you're going to make some fairly big statements about Cloud.

Draven
10-31-2007, 06:05 PM
LOL

TM
10-31-2007, 06:49 PM
Aeirs, lol.

Also guys I heard when someone dies they can't come back, not even the mighty Aerith.

Agent0042
11-02-2007, 12:47 AM
Who is "Aeirs?" Also, why the heck was this revived? Also, closed.