Vincent, Thunder God
12-04-2005, 08:40 PM
There are several things about Final Fantasy 7 which were excellent, but there were also some elements to it which should have been different. I have several things I would change, but what about you? Post some of the things you would change about FF7 here.
I would:
-Fix the few glithces in the game.
-Put better character graphics for the world map and locations.
-Make materia slightly easier to level up.
-Add some more minigames and side quests, even though there are
already lots.
-Change the Chocobuckle Enemy skill to its Japanese function
instead of it's North American function.
-Make Ultima Weapon easier to find on the world map.
-Make all non-CG cutscenes into CG cutscenes

There are probably more things I would change, but I can't think of them right now. Please post your thoughts here.

Duality
12-04-2005, 09:30 PM
I cant really remember many at the moment, its been years since i last played it, but this is what I might change:

Make materia slightly easier to level up.
Add more DECENT minigames to the golden Saucer, (Chocobo racing, Snowboarding and the submarine were the only ones i enjoyed)

Prak
12-04-2005, 09:38 PM
1. Make the game not suck.
2. Make the characters not one-dimensional and sucky.
3. Make the graphics not suck.
4. Make the FMV scenes not suck.
5. Make the gameplay not suck.
6. Make the plot not suck.
7. Give the game an ending.

Shall I continue?

Duality
12-04-2005, 09:40 PM
7. Give the game an ending.
Agreed, the ending was awfull

Neo Xzhan
12-04-2005, 09:43 PM
Delete the game out of history.

I'm pretty much with Prak, there were so many holes in the game.

Denny
12-04-2005, 09:47 PM
7. Give the game an ending.
Shall I continue?


:(

But i loved the ending....

Prak
12-04-2005, 09:55 PM
8. Make the villain not a whiny emo fag ripoff of Kefka.
9. Make the game not full of racial stereotypes that insult a player's intelligence.

Dragoncurry
12-04-2005, 10:12 PM
8. Make the villain not a whiny emo fag ripoff of Kefka.

Gwahahahahha.

Halo
12-04-2005, 11:00 PM
Agreed, the ending was awfull
But it wasnt the end of FF7 at all coz it continues..... ;)

Swedish Fish
12-05-2005, 12:09 AM
Agreed, the ending was awfull

Would you really call that an ending?

Prak
12-05-2005, 05:51 PM
But it wasnt the end of FF7 at all coz it continues..... ;)

It was not meant to continue at the time, so that counts as its ending reagrdless of any additions that have since been made. And it thoroughly sucked.

Basically, FFVII was a giant waste of disc space. I don't think I'll ever be able to understand how that game has remained popular for long. It's like the world at large is simply off its rocker.

Vincent, Thunder God
12-05-2005, 10:15 PM
Even though this is becoming more and more of the usual debate over whether or not FF7 is good, and further and further from the original topic, I'm going to join in: FF7 is not a bad game. The graphics may suck and there may be some glitches, but the storyline rocks and so does the gameplay.

Swedish Fish
12-05-2005, 10:59 PM
I stand with Prak. The storyline is full of holes and the "ending" is pretty bad. The graphics don't really count against it. The gameplay is O.K. but quite a bit repetitive.

Halo
12-05-2005, 11:02 PM
Hey come on guys it was the first good FF that they made..

Silver Clawquara
12-05-2005, 11:10 PM
I agree with Halo. You know the saying right?
The graphics got better, the storylines got worse
FF7 was the best game they made.

griff
12-05-2005, 11:27 PM
I agree with Halo. You know the saying right?
The graphics got better, the storylines got worse

by that saying wouldn't ff1 be the best game they ever made?

Halo
12-05-2005, 11:33 PM
by that saying wouldn't ff1 be the best game they ever made?
No it was the best start

Swedish Fish
12-05-2005, 11:52 PM
Actually if you look at difficulty, replayability, game time, graphics in relation to story line, and of course the lack of fanboys like you, Finla Fantasy VI is by far the best. And YOU know it.

Halo
12-05-2005, 11:56 PM
Well FF Vi is indeed Good but not like FF VII or IX coz FF Vi was far away easy.... honestly

Swedish Fish
12-06-2005, 12:02 AM
WHAT THE FUCK?! FFVII was by far the easiest, and YOU know it. No difficulty other than the Ruby and Emerald Weapons. FFVI was actually kinda difficult in quite a number of places.

Yui
12-06-2005, 12:08 AM
Basically, FFVII was a giant waste of disc space. I don't think I'll ever be able to understand how that game has remained popular for long. It's like the world at large is simply off its rocker.
ff7 fanboys and girls... and anyone who had ff7 as their first rpg game.

seriously that's what i noticed. most people who say ff7 is the best had ff7 as their first rpg game... or first videogame... or first ff game.

Silver Clawquara
12-06-2005, 12:10 AM
I'm sorry but FFVII was the best one.

Duality
12-06-2005, 12:12 AM
WHAT THE FUCK?! FFVII was by far the easiest, and YOU know it. No difficulty other than the Ruby and Emerald Weapons. FFVI was actually kinda difficult in quite a number of places.
I actually believe that X-2 was by far the easiest, but i havent played any of the classics except IV so i cant really comment overall, but out of the ones i've played, VII was the second easiest and least interesting

Swedish Fish
12-06-2005, 12:16 AM
True. X-2 was very easy. But I was busy emphasizing my point that FFVII isn't nearly the best.

Duality
12-06-2005, 12:20 AM
True. X-2 was very easy. But I was busy emphasizing my point that FFVII isn't nearly the best.
Fair enough, i just felt like i'd mention that to try and bring some perspective back and to point out that it is very boring

Swedish Fish
12-06-2005, 12:21 AM
X-2 or VII? Both are not so great. But VII takes the cake in my view.

Silver Clawquara
12-06-2005, 12:23 AM
Well, ok I'm going to admit that I've really only played FFVII so I can't really offer anything other than I thought that was a good one..but I did look at the guide for..I believe it was X2, can't be sure though.

Swedish Fish
12-06-2005, 12:25 AM
If you've only played VII, then you don't have enough perspective to actually say that it was a good FF. It might be a good game compared to some others, but it doesn't rank high at all on the FF scale.

Duality
12-06-2005, 12:26 AM
X-2 or VII? Both are not so great. But VII takes the cake in my view.
Well, both really, but VII really does take the big cheesy fruit cake.


Well, ok I'm going to admit that I've really only played FFVII so I can't really offer anything other than I thought that was a good one..but I did look at the guide for..I believe it was X2, can't be sure though.
no offence, but looking at the guide by no lengths of the imagination qualifies an opinion on a series of games, the guides i feel are often flawed and never portray how good a game is. By all means, have the opinion that VII is a good game, but dont claim that its the best in the series unless you have played the whole series.

Swedish Fish
12-06-2005, 12:27 AM
Well, both really, but VII really does take the big cheesy fruit cake.

ROFL

Silver Clawquara
12-06-2005, 12:28 AM
Yeah, well, one of my other friends is a complete FFVII nut! He's obsessed with Cloud Strife! But I'm sure the other FF's are just as good.

Duality
12-06-2005, 12:32 AM
Well, try them and find out...

Silver Clawquara
12-06-2005, 12:33 AM
Yeah if I can ever get one of the other games....mula is so tight right now.....::sigh::

Silver Clawquara
12-06-2005, 12:33 AM
But...did you hear that they were going to remake FFVII with better graphics?

Swedish Fish
12-06-2005, 12:36 AM
You should be able to get them from Gamestop or Ebay easily. Any reputable local gaming store should at least have a copy of FFVIII, FFIX, FFX, and FFX-2. Or you might even get lucky and find the FFX and FFX-2 at a departement store. FFV and FFVI come toghether in Anthologies. Shouldn't be too hard to find those either.
EDIT: Yes, unbelievable. Almost scary. I might get it if they plan to close up the enormous plot holes and give a decent storyline.

Duality
12-06-2005, 12:38 AM
Yeah, i heard that rumour, for the PS3 i think? SE should really just let VII go, move onto bigger and better things. No amount of graphics changing will alter peoples opinion of the game, it may even cheapen it in some. They really are milking it for all its worth and now the cow is producing nothing but yoghurt. (sorry about the dairy reference, i couldnt resist it:))

Silver Clawquara
12-06-2005, 12:41 AM
Well, I have a friend who's parents work with whoever made the FF series. I said they were going to but that changed when the other company they were working with wanted to change the storyline. Let's face it, they're pretty proud with FFVII and they don't want to change it. I heard Advent Children was a big success though.

Duality
12-06-2005, 12:46 AM
I heard Advent Children was a big success though.
Wouldnt know, i havent seen it yet, but from what i've heard, its pretty much a mixed bag as far as AC's success, much like the games...

Silver Clawquara
12-06-2005, 12:50 AM
Well, I have a friend who has it in Japanese, they haven't released the english version in the US of A yet.

Vincent, Thunder God
12-06-2005, 02:18 AM
This has gone way off topic... enough debating, get back to the point of the thread!

Swedish Fish
12-06-2005, 02:27 AM
Oh. Okay.

1.) Everything

Halo
12-06-2005, 03:02 PM
Personaly my Fav FF are 7 and 9.Even if i played all FF(and finished them :o) i think FF 9 with classic FF storyline is the best......In my opinion:)

Swedish Fish
12-06-2005, 03:06 PM
The classics are definately the best. Although VIII is pretty good too in my opinion.

Nightowl9910
12-06-2005, 05:56 PM
I enjoyed playing FF7 alot overall but the one thing I found a pain about it was all the time it took me to get all the chocobo breeding sorted out for when I got the Knights of The Round summon. Not because I found it hard, but because for me it made the game really drag, after the hours i'd already spent on it, towards the end.

That is the one thing I would have changed.

Kit Thespian
12-09-2005, 05:10 AM
What would I change?

1) The fact that Cloud Strife is a lawsuit on heroes waiting to happen.

His reaction to Aeris' death is so wimpy. He should have been like, "NOOOOO!!! @#$# you, you #@@#$#! You killed Aeris!!! DIEEEE!!!" But instead he was so...complacent with it all. Cloud is a not a good case for blonds. He constantly needs women (Aeris and Tifa) to take care of him. It SHOULD be the other way around. Why do people think he's the greatest anyway? Because he takes down Sephiroth? Apparently he didn't do such a hot job; Sephiroth comes back in AC, I've heard.

2) The fact that Sephiroth (whom I love; don't think I don't) has mommy issues with an octopus, and that he has the STUPIDEST take-over-the-world plan ever.

So, he'll absorb the lifestream as it flows above the earth (which will be really funny considering that Sephy would have been deep underground keeping Holy at bay when the Meteor hits) Now, how does he know that he's going to be able to absorb all that energy? How's he going to be in the center of all that energy if the energy is heading toward Midgar and he's at the Crater, deep underground, holding back Holy.

Kefka didn't NEED a lousy Meteor; he just raised his little finger and blasted the world with the Ray of Judgement whenever he felt like it.

3) The transition from calm, cool, intelligent Sephiroth to the biggest fruitcake that ever lived.

"I am the chosen one! Chosen to rule this planet! Ha, ha, ha!" There's no real explanation for it. I laughed my head off when I first saw that part. "Oh, he went nuts because he found out he was an experiment..." doesn't cut it for me. As smart as they were making him out to be, he probably would sought a second opinion rather than those old books, maybe even Hojo. If there was a part in the game that say that Jenova had driven him insane by speaking things into his mind while he was in Nibelheim or something, I'd buy it. But there's no such explanation.

4) How in the heck did Barret get a gun arm?

The only people who have guns throughout the whole game are Shinra people. Black market? How did he get the money while on the run from Shinra? This is just a little thing, I understand, but it nags at my mind.

5) Spirit energy

I guess it's because of my religious beliefs, but the whole "souls of the planet are the lifestream" just kind of weirds me out. Call me prudish, but it would have been a lot more comfortable if the Mako had just been an energy source.

6) Vincent Valentine's alteration

What DID Hojo do to Vincent to make him change into monsters when he's mad, like the Incredible Hulk? Did he inject Jenova cells? Was it some other demented serum? The game never says.

7) And yes, the ending.

Or lack thereof. I was so disgusted. The ending went downhill after Sephiroth "died" for the fourth time. They HAD to make Advent Children, because there were so many holes in the game. That, and everyone likes Sephiroth.

Why don't they use all that lovely money to make a live-action trilogy of FFVI, or FFVII (revised) or Chrono Trigger? Sigh...

I'll think of more later.

muteRADIUS
12-09-2005, 05:48 AM
Okay. Firstly, the secondary issue: FF8 was my first. 9 was my second, and 7 was my third rpg games. 8 rocked. 9 rocked. 7 rocked. they were all balls fun. then i played 4. rocked. played 1 and 2, rocked. played 10. rocked. played 5 and 6. rocked and rocked. played a rom of 3. rocked. still don't know what an onionkid is, but it still rocked. So as someone who liked the game:

-I would not have aeris(th) die bloodless. Not gory, but I didn't really catch on to what happened there till the music came up. I mean, he basically filletted her spine, or WOULD HAVE if he didn't hold the sword with the edge towards himself, which is darwin award material. She must have been praying on her stomach to get wounded like that.
-SENSE OF SCALE on the world map. Highwind circuited the globe in something like ten seconds.
-the people of Junon would live in cleaned out shell casings from that big gun.
-No more SD characters.
-the ability to switch cloud out of the party, for level up purposes (I may have this annoyance confused with 8)

barretboy14
12-09-2005, 05:38 PM
i would have killed off aeris asap

Duality
12-09-2005, 05:50 PM
-the ability to switch cloud out of the party, for level up purposes (I may have this annoyance confused with 8)
This point isnt really that important as the characters not in your party level up as your party does, granted not as fast, but they still level up, which really bugged me. I would also change this so that characters level up through training and not sitting around doing nothing all the time, as it also hinderd my materia growth cos i could not be bothered to raise my materia if my characters werent being raised as well.

muteRADIUS
12-09-2005, 06:05 PM
It was the 'achieving final limit break' thing that eventually irritated me, i think. I was in that submarine fighting battle after battle trying to get cids.

Kit Thespian
12-27-2005, 09:06 PM
I kind of liked the Limit Break thing.

I found it kind of odd that Materia was something that could be purchased in every town everywhere. In other games, like FFVI, FFVIII, and FFIV, magic is special and something to be attained. In FFVII, you could buy magic at your local drug store. It's so common I wonder why local thieves bother to use knives and daggers when they could be using materia.

And the whole "scientific" explanation of "magic" took the fantasy out of "final fantasy" and made it "final science fiction". Just another little qualm of mine.

ZOLTAN!
06-13-2006, 11:38 PM
1. Make the game not suck.
2. Make the characters not one-dimensional and sucky.
3. Make the graphics not suck.
4. Make the FMV scenes not suck.
5. Make the gameplay not suck.
6. Make the plot not suck.
7. Give the game an ending.

Shall I continue?

please continue i agree with everything there.

Prak
06-14-2006, 12:18 AM
Wow. I had forgotten I even said that. Not that I disagree with any of it now, of course.

Desert Wolf
06-14-2006, 12:32 AM
I actually doesnt sound like something youd say.

Prak
06-14-2006, 12:33 AM
Why not?

Desert Wolf
06-14-2006, 12:35 AM
Why not?
Dunno.lol. Just doesnt. I just remembered something. CyanCydes diary thread is gone. Hes playing that game for nothing now.

Prak
06-14-2006, 12:37 AM
haha maybe he'd want to restart the thread.

Anyway, to be perfectly honest, I've been thinking about playing through the game again lately. I'm sure I'd still hate it, but I want to be sure I hate it for all the right reasons without missing any. And since I've discovered my brother had a copy of the PC version lying around, I'm actually thinking seriously about doing it.

Desert Wolf
06-14-2006, 12:39 AM
lol. Knowing you im sure it was literly lying around. Well if you play it again then I might too. Then it will be fresh in our heads I guess.

Prak
06-14-2006, 12:43 AM
Actually, you're right. It was very literally lying around. Under a box full of random junk.

Incidentally, he never actually played it. He traded his copy of Starcraft to a friend for it, but wrote it off as crap when he saw the graphics. I certainly trained him well in the ways of the PC graphics snob.

Cloud On A Stick
06-14-2006, 01:24 AM
1. Make the game not suck.
2. Make the characters not one-dimensional and sucky.
3. Make the graphics not suck.
4. Make the FMV scenes not suck.
5. Give the game an ending.



As much as i love FF7 prak is right this time

Nightowl9910
06-14-2006, 02:49 PM
Anyway, to be perfectly honest, I've been thinking about playing through the game again lately. I'm sure I'd still hate it, but I want to be sure I hate it for all the right reasons without missing any.

What! You're seriously considering playing FF7 all the way through again?

I can't be reading right lol.

Hex Omega
06-14-2006, 02:51 PM
What! You're seriously considering playing FF7 all the way through again?

I can't be reading right lol.

ZOLTAN!
06-14-2006, 03:20 PM
Wow. I had forgotten I even said that. Not that I disagree with any of it now, of course.

lol well you know me i always post late for some reason..

Starscream
06-14-2006, 05:08 PM
Hey come on guys it was the first good FF that they made..
:laugh:
That's the funniest thing that I've read in a while. Have you played FFVI?

<o0Sephiroth0o>
06-14-2006, 05:11 PM
Yeah well nobody needs to worry about this problem anymore as u all probably know but FF7 is being released on ps3 and it is gonna fukin rock all!!!!!!!

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 05:11 PM
:laugh:
That's the funniest thing that I've read in a while. Have you played FFVI?

weird...

i don't see any funny there...

Starscream
06-14-2006, 05:20 PM
weird...

i don't see any funny there...
Firstly, I don't see any funny there either, mainly due to the fact that I don't know what that is.
Secondly, my point was that this guy believed that FFVII was the first FF that was any good. Now, pesonally I disagree with that completely because FFVI is above good, so it was funny.

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 05:26 PM
Firstly, I don't see any funny there either, mainly due to the fact that I don't know what that is.
Secondly, my point was that this guy believed that FFVII was the first FF that was any good. Now, pesonally I disagree with that completely because FFVI is above good, so it was funny.

ffvi is above good, well that is your opinion...

so you think your viewpoint is right, while others wrong?...

Starscream
06-14-2006, 05:29 PM
ffvi is above good, well that is your opinion...
Okay, it is my opinion, I haven't even heard yours yet.


so you think your viewpoint is right, while others wrong?...
Where the hell did you get that from? I didn't say that.
Also, I like FFVII, all I was saying was that the other guy was wrong in saying that FFVII was the first good FF. Don't you agree with that?
On a random note, don't you remember me ekinserge? I was the guy who was talking to you about the mexican Sephiroth.

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 05:32 PM
Okay, it is my opinion, I haven't even heard yours yet.


Where the hell did you get that from? I didn't say that.
Also, I like FFVII, all I was saying was that the other guy was wrong in saying that FFVII was the first good FF. Don't you agree with that?

nope...

this people say ffix the best...

that people say ffv the best...

some people say ffx the best...

i will say that all ff are the best...

<o0Sephiroth0o>
06-14-2006, 05:36 PM
I think that 10 has too many ff sequences the game pretty much plays for you. FF7 if youd first got it when it was realesed in either 97 or 99 i cant remember was the best fuckin game ever. The online ff is pretty good, I think II was awesome as was 5 and 6. I cant wait for FF7 on PS3 which will be fucking awesome!!!!!!

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 05:39 PM
I think that 10 has too many ff sequences the game pretty much plays for you. FF7 if youd first got it when it was realesed in either 97 or 99 i cant remember was the best fuckin game ever. The online ff is pretty good, I think II was awesome as was 5 and 6. I cant wait for FF7 on PS3 which will be fucking awesome!!!!!!

ffvii on PS3?...

is this true?...

Prak
06-14-2006, 05:39 PM
It won't be anything at all, laxative brain. Square-Enix has stated several times that they're not remaking the game, which is good considering that it was utter shit.

<o0Sephiroth0o>
06-14-2006, 05:41 PM
weel then why is there a fuckin downloadable demo you cock

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 05:41 PM
It won't be anything at all, laxative brain. Square-Enix has stated several times that they're not remaking the game, which is good considering that it was utter shit.

so?...

SE is unpredictable...

Prak
06-14-2006, 05:43 PM
downloadable demo? haha That's hilarious.

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 05:45 PM
downloadable demo? haha That's hilarious.

this son need to see Jesust...

<o0Sephiroth0o>
06-14-2006, 05:47 PM
dude you just go out of your way to contradict everything anyone says LOOK YOURSELF YOU COCK!!!!

Prak
06-14-2006, 05:56 PM
Are you talking about that silly technical demo that was made to do nothing more than show what the PS3 could render? It's not a demo for a remake, laxative brain.

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 05:56 PM
haha to COCK...haha to laxative brain...

i want vincent to use giant fork instead of a gun...

Starscream
06-14-2006, 05:59 PM
nope...

this people say ffix the best...

that people say ffv the best...

some people say ffx the best...

i will say that all ff are the best...
Fair enough.
Also <o0Sephiroth0o>, I've seen a tech demo that's like thirty seconds long with a quick flash of Cloud and Shinra, etc, but a downloadable demo? If you mean the tech demo, that's hardly something to get excited about.

<o0Sephiroth0o>
06-14-2006, 06:02 PM
dude well see whos right and if im wrong (which im not) ill make an apology through the whole fucking server, until then fuck u!

and laxative brain, dude serious that is fucking shit go chew on a cock and leave this forum site of your stupidity or even better go ly on a road with a grey carpet over you so nobody will see you being trampled by a fuckin lorry. (not that any1 would mind)

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 06:04 PM
calm down...

we are waiting for the eternal calm...

Prak
06-14-2006, 06:07 PM
Did I mention that I love the arrogance of retarded n00bs? It's just a shame the fucktard doesn't have an ounce of wit in him to go with it.

Starscream
06-14-2006, 06:08 PM
dude well see whos right and if im wrong (which im not) ill make an apology through the whole fucking server, until then fuck u!

and laxative brain, dude serious that is fucking shit go chew on a cock and leave this forum site of your stupidity or even better go ly on a road with a grey carpet over you so nobody will see you being trampled by a fuckin lorry. (not that any1 would mind)
Do you have some sought of obsession with the male sex organ, or are you simply a brain-dead moron with no tolerance of anyone else, because you need to stop talking like that or you could face a ban.

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 06:08 PM
Did I mention that I love the arrogance of retarded n00bs? It's just a shame the fucktard doesn't have an ounce of wit in him to go with it.

what is wrong with you?...

lack proper guidance?...

Starscream
06-14-2006, 06:10 PM
what is wrong with you?...

lack proper guidance?...
WTF?

<o0Sephiroth0o>
06-14-2006, 06:11 PM
dude seriosly i couldnt giv a fuck bout being banned and your thought on my expressive ways of using the words to indicate male genitiles it is obviusly the most effective way of insulting and if you thought otherwise why ask me bout it. COCK

Prak
06-14-2006, 06:11 PM
Oh, just ignore him, Starscream.. ekinserge is just a retarded n00b who fails to be amusing about it. At least the Sephiroth humping fucktard (Yes, Gina, I stole your insult) makes me laugh.

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 06:12 PM
WTF?

ABN?...

Starscream
06-14-2006, 06:12 PM
dude seriosly i couldnt giv a fuck bout being banned and your thought on my expressive ways of using the words to indicate male genitiles it is obviusly the most effective way of insulting and if you thought otherwise why ask me bout it. COCK
You believe that calling someone a 'Cock' is the most effective way to insult someone?!

<o0Sephiroth0o>
06-14-2006, 06:14 PM
that i do ballbag

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 06:15 PM
You believe that calling someone a 'Cock' is the most effective way to insult someone?!

hmmm...

bless this child...

pegi mampos, balik jerusalem...

<o0Sephiroth0o>
06-14-2006, 06:15 PM
dude what your like fuckin 20 and your on a fuckin shit forum site insulting 15 yeah old, thats pretty sad, i think you need to sort yourself out....... and as for that loser starscream u guys obviously have something going on there

Starscream
06-14-2006, 06:16 PM
Oh, just ignore him, Starscream.. ekinserge is just a retarded n00b who fails to be amusing about it. At least the Sephiroth humping fucktard (Yes, Gina, I stole your insult) makes me laugh.
:laugh:
Yeah, I guess he is at least a little humuorus.
Gina's insult came in handy there too(From the time I've been here, I'm guessing that Gina is Twilight).

Prak
06-14-2006, 06:17 PM
I see no problem with insulting a 15 year old for acting like a 7 year old.

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 06:18 PM
:laugh:
Yeah, I guess he is at least a little humuorus.
Gina's insult came in handy there too(From the time I've been here, I'm guessing that Gina is Twilight).

same goes to you...

please respect other people...

<o0Sephiroth0o>
06-14-2006, 06:19 PM
yeah well the fact is your the fucking immature person who visits sites such as this to insult people whihc is very sad you serious need to see some one bout that

Starscream
06-14-2006, 06:20 PM
dude what your like fuckin 20 and your on a fuckin shit forum site insulting 15 yeah old, thats pretty sad, i think you need to sort yourself out....... and as for that loser starscream u guys obviously have something going on there
Well this has nothing to do with age and you're the one who is spending his time on a site just to insult someone elses intentions. By doing this you have proved your meaningless existence, just for the record, if you're bringing age into this, I'm a year younger than you and I can still point out your uselessness.

Prak
06-14-2006, 06:21 PM
Don't flatter yourself. Insulting morons is just something I do on the side. You are a momentary amusement to me and shall be cast aside the moment you cease to be entertaining.

Starscream
06-14-2006, 06:22 PM
same goes to you...

please respect other people...
Come on ekinserge, you've been here a while, surely you can see this guy's moronic nature. Also, stop talking in riddles I can't understand the points that you're making in any of your posts.

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 06:23 PM
Don't flatter yourself. Insulting morons is just something I do on the side. You are a momentary amusement to me and shall be cast aside the moment you cease to be entertaining.

si prak dengan starscream ni pelik aku tengok...

suka sangat kutuk orang lain...

that two faggot need to go to some boarding school...

Starscream
06-14-2006, 06:30 PM
si prak dengan starscream ni pelik aku tengok...

suka sangat kutuk orang lain...
WTF? Seriously, do you spend your life just riddling others, you're like a psychological patient.

<o0Sephiroth0o>
06-14-2006, 06:30 PM
dude ive been on this site for like a fuckin hour and by the looks of it youve been on longer than that and it is really fucking sad if you do only come on to insult people you asshole

Starscream
06-14-2006, 06:32 PM
dude ive been on this site for like a fuckin hour and by the looks of it youve been on longer than that and it is really fucking sad if you do only come on to insult people you asshole
Actually, I've been here for two months, but the site crashed and alot of people's files were wiped so I had to register again.
Don't worry, an easy mistake to make.

<o0Sephiroth0o>
06-14-2006, 06:33 PM
Star Scream who the fuck are you to judge someone for all anyone in this site could know your a fuckin deranged pervert who goes on this site to look for kids or something so dont fuckin judge him

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 06:33 PM
dude ive been on this site for like a fuckin hour and by the looks of it youve been on longer than that and it is really fucking sad if you do only come on to insult people you asshole

lalala...

i agree...

good manner will bring joy all the way...

Starscream
06-14-2006, 06:36 PM
Star Scream who the fuck are you to judge someone for all anyone in this site could know your a fuckin deranged pervert who goes on this site to look for kids or something so dont fuckin judge him
:laugh:
That's funny! However, realistically, I don't think a Paedophile would join a Final Fantasy site that's not even instant posting.

Avinite
06-14-2006, 06:37 PM
dude well see whos right and if im wrong (which im not) ill make an apology through the whole fucking server,


http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q2-2006/052706a.html

I'm waiting.

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 06:42 PM
http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q2-2006/052706a.html

I'm waiting.

as i'm saying before this, SE is unpredictable...

Starscream
06-14-2006, 06:44 PM
Thank you Avinite.

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 06:46 PM
Thank you Avinite.

membodek...

Avinite
06-14-2006, 06:47 PM
No prob, I have that saved in favourites for occassions like these. ;)

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 06:48 PM
as i'm saying before this, SE is unpredictable...

Starscream
06-14-2006, 06:50 PM
membodek...
Not really...

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 06:51 PM
Not really...

kau memang suka mengampu...

do not pretending...

Safer Roco
06-14-2006, 06:51 PM
http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q2-2006/052706a.html

I'm waiting.
I want to see the guys reaction

ekinserge
06-14-2006, 06:53 PM
I want to see the guys reaction

i want to say this again...

SE is unpredictable...

Avinite
06-14-2006, 08:28 PM
True, but remember the FFVIII demo?

ekinserge
06-15-2006, 04:48 AM
True, but remember the FFVIII demo?

so?...

SE really unpredictable...

Safer Roco
06-15-2006, 05:35 AM
stop saying that

ekinserge
06-15-2006, 05:48 AM
stop saying that

ok...

Hex Omega
06-15-2006, 11:59 AM
Will you shut up? You've posted like 10 times in this thread and added absolutely nothing to it. You don't have to post just for the sake of it.

Nightowl9910
06-15-2006, 12:19 PM
My opinion on the game has changed somewhat since the last time I posted an answer to the thread question so here's my update.

I'd make the villain more original, give the characterisation more depth (i'd probably get rid of Yuffie and Barret altogether but give Vincent and Cait Sith larger roles in regards to the story events) and change some of the music. Not all of it was bad but some of it really made me grit my teeth when I listened to it lol.

Starscream
06-15-2006, 04:40 PM
I'd also like the villain to have something else going on other than the mother complex.

The Chocobo Knight
06-15-2006, 05:23 PM
I wish they would stop walking into cloud and using him as a mode of tranport.

Because that is just wrong

Starscream
06-15-2006, 05:32 PM
I wish they would stop walking into cloud and using him as a mode of tranport.

Because that is just wrong
:laugh:

Swedish Fish
06-15-2006, 10:03 PM
I wish they would stop walking into cloud and using him as a mode of tranport.

That's where IX shines.

Andyuk
06-16-2006, 02:45 AM
You know, I would probably not change much of it.

1) better translation.
2) auto running (so you don't have to hold X all the time)
3) give cloud a personality.
4) battle engine overhaul.
5) work out a proper ending and leave it at that (no advent children)

I'd like to state now that i think the graphics are fine. I would never say they suck, I can see they are pretty poor nowadays and wern't the best even when the game was released (resident evil did prerendered graphics with decentish 3d models.)
And the fmv's were certainly better than most psone games of the time.

Nightowl9910
06-16-2006, 12:02 PM
Have to say that I thought the FMV's for FFVI were just as good, from what i've seen of them so far anyway =)

Starscream
06-17-2006, 12:06 PM
Have to say that I thought the FMV's for FFVI were just as good, from what i've seen of them so far anyway =)
I agree, I thought that there should have been a graphics improvement in the FFVII FMVs. Maybe FFVI's were just good.

Desert Wolf
06-17-2006, 12:53 PM
Have to say that I thought the FMV's for FFVI were just as good, from what i've seen of them so far anyway =)

If you talking about the playstation one wasnt that made after FF7?

Prak
06-17-2006, 04:48 PM
Yeah, you can't fairly compare them that way since FFVI had no FMVs originally and they were thrown into the Anthologies version almost as an afterthought.

FF1WithAllThieves
06-17-2006, 08:06 PM
I would change the god-awful midi they used for the soundtrack. I think the music in FFVII would be a lot better without the harmonica choir of a brass section coming in out of tune and ruining what few good moments there were in the game.

jewess crabcake
06-17-2006, 08:15 PM
definately graphics and/or battle style materia took some getting used to

Swedish Fish
06-17-2006, 08:21 PM
definately graphics and/or battle style materia took some getting used to

It took getting used to, but stuff like "KOTR, Mime", and "Mega-All, Ultima, Quadra Magic" just ruined the game's whole balance.

The Chocobo Knight
06-17-2006, 08:36 PM
I know, after you get the really good marteria it all goes flop. You can beat any monsters and it just gets boring

MissMurder
06-17-2006, 08:52 PM
it`s either a more extended chocobo side quest or not being stuck in Midgar for an entire disk.


and if that dosnt jump the gun, than more than likely better grahpics


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Nightowl9910
06-18-2006, 03:09 PM
If you talking about the playstation one wasnt that made after FF7?

Ah I didn't know that. I assumed it was made before. Oh well, no wonder the FMV at the beginning looked at good as it did then lol.

Desert Wolf
06-18-2006, 03:46 PM
Yeah.lol. Shame there was no FMV's during the game.

Swedish Fish
06-18-2006, 04:29 PM
Yeah.lol. Shame there was no FMV's during the game.

Wrong. If there had been FMVs right in the middle of VI it would have ruined the game. VI was made for the SNES, and putting FMVs in the middle of a 16-bit wonder would be absurd.

Hex Omega
06-18-2006, 07:28 PM
Besides, FFVI is such an outstanding game, it doesn't need FMV's to dress it up.

Desert Wolf
06-18-2006, 10:22 PM
Wrong. If there had been FMVs right in the middle of VI it would have ruined the game. VI was made for the SNES, and putting FMVs in the middle of a 16-bit wonder would be absurd.

Well probably yes but you really cant see what the characters look like unless your bothered to watch the start.

Swedish Fish
06-18-2006, 11:16 PM
Well probably yes but you really cant see what the characters look like unless your bothered to watch the start.

Unlike most of the following games, VI didn't rely on sexy female characters and trimmed guys. In VI it's the personality, not the chest.

Desert Wolf
06-18-2006, 11:36 PM
Rofl. I dont suppose you a fan of X-2?

Swedish Fish
06-19-2006, 12:51 AM
Rofl. I dont suppose you a fan of X-2?

Actually I am. Unlike the previous games, a lot of people were turned off by the amount of estrogen. The game was fun and fresh. Something Square seemed to have left behind. That's all it need to hook me.

Manga Legend
07-03-2006, 02:37 PM
Final Fantasy X2 sucked donkey dick

Manga Legend
07-03-2006, 02:37 PM
Theirs only one thing that could make ff7 better, no Caith Sith.

Sharon Agathon
07-03-2006, 02:40 PM
Help! N**B attack. :(

also: Stop double posting please.

DokusouX
07-03-2006, 02:48 PM
I just told him through PM . . .

Davey-Mac
07-10-2006, 02:33 PM
Change the grafics nd make the plotholes less.....difficult for Prak to understand!!! nd ya easyer materia level up!!!And mabe some sound!

Prak
07-10-2006, 03:11 PM
Oh look. Another random retard is prodding at me with grade school insults instead of trying to take me head-to-head in a debate. How stunningly original an idea that is! [/sarcasm]

Ultimetal
07-10-2006, 04:44 PM
it`s either a more extended chocobo side quest or not being stuck in Midgar for an entire disk.

Personally I felt Midgar was the best part of the game, it actually felt like it was going to be a good storyline. After that when you leave, it starts falling; the game is still enjoyable but there's so much fault and plotholes with the storyline. Don't get me started on the ending...

Back on topic, if I Could improve some things it would be:
1) Improve the battle engine.
2) Fill in the plotholes.
3) Go into more depth about each character.
4) Add some more sidemissions.
5) What the hell were the thinking with Ultima Weapon, making him fly for a half hour before he finally picks his destination? That was just tedious.
6) The 'Super Weapons'. Make them fair, as in possible to defeat with use of normal materia etc., and not this KOTR/Omnislash/mime-combo whoring. Meh, maybe I just haven't tried enough strategies at beating them, but these seem to be the only ways to beat them.
7) Gold Chocobo for beating Ruby Weapon? What?
8) The translation was terrible.

And maybe a few more things that I can't really remember right now, it's been a while...