Emerald was infinitely harder.

To me, Ruby was harder, but that might have been because I was trying to level up materia, so I had my HP way down and I was wearing double growth armor.

Ruby by-far. I came real close to beating Emerald, cant say the same for Ruby.

To be honest both require a ludicrous amount of leveling up and hp above 9999 (probably) and i dont have a clue hoew you would do that anyway, never mind finding the time to level up enough, i dont understand people who just have ridiculously high leveled parties, i mean its easy to finish the game with all your party around level 60 when you enter the north cave i could never be bothered to wander around in random battles to get to level 100 or level up all of my materia.

emerald is def harder because u can paralyse ruby

Ruby, definately. It can instantly remove a fighter from battle, so obviously that is just a tad bit dangerous. Emerald just requires a shitload of MP and HP, unbelievable strength, godly materia, and KOTR. Really all you have to do is "Mimic" your way around you're group using KOTR. And once your MP is all dried up... Megaelixer!! Then you can continue your onslaught. Ruby actually requires strategy, although neither are what I would call "easy".

Emerald is way harder. I agree with that statement.
Oh, and Tom2toes, if yer wondering, people get that strong that fast by using CHEATS or a GAMESHARK.
So if u used those, Ruby isn't very difficult at all.
Emerald on the other hand has a giant move that does nearly 9999 to all your party. And it's got a mega-crap-load of health.
Pretty much the only solid way to defeat the Emerald weapon is to have the "Knights of the Round Table" materia and the "Mimic" materia. Just do that over and over again until u drain the great green giant's health out.
But it's still retardedly hard, even with the codes.

I thrashed emerald well before I was able to substancially damage ruby. But I think once you learn the strategy for Ruby he/she/it becomes considerably easier.

So I say... Emerald is harder.

Emerald on the other hand has a giant move that does nearly 9999 to all your party.

Actually that move does exactly 9999 damage to your entire party and the only way to survive it is to have final attack materia combined with either Life materia, or better yet, mastered phoenix materia.

And you better have Phoenix mastered, cause there's a good chance you'll need it numerous times.

My vote goes to emerald weapon for sure.

emerald can be easy just u have that one materia that u can breath under water
i think Ruby is harder

If you have the underwater materia, that is certainly no guarantee for winning.

You try and beat him without final attack materia combined with either Life or Phoenix, I wish you good luck on a fools quest, it is impossible.

u cant survive that attack anyway without final attack if ure not lucky and emerald never use that attack

just get all lucky 7 on both of them so u have a BIG start

To be honest both require a ludicrous amount of leveling up and hp above 9999 (probably) and i dont have a clue hoew you would do that anyway, never mind finding the time to level up enough, i dont understand people who just have ridiculously high leveled parties, i mean its easy to finish the game with all your party around level 60 when you enter the north cave i could never be bothered to wander around in random battles to get to level 100 or level up all of my materia.
how the hell is it posible to get hp over 9999 without cheats

hey Tom2toes i had lv.45 after getting alexander i used LOOOONG time to get i got meteor2 after beating jenova

u cant survive that attack anyway without final attack if ure not lucky and emerald never use that attack

Whatta ya mean by that?? That Emerald weapon never uses that move? Ruby doesn't use it, Emerald does.

ye i know emerald use it but it hapend that it dosent >_<

today i gonna buy RE4 :D

Then I guess I have just been unlucky up till now, cause I've battled emerald weapon like 4 times already and every time he used that attack at least 2 times

Ok man. Use Revive coupled with Final Attack. Preferably mastered. If you use that, Emerald CANNOT KILL YOU. Then you RAPE IT. Horribly. I beat Emerald and Ruby one on one with Cloud at level 80. It just took a LONG long time.

its better with master pheonix and final attack and if ure lucky enough to get final attack on master then u get one more and then its easier:D

I am going to answer this thread for about the 5th time now. C'mon people we need some new threads.

In my opinion, Ruby was harder. Like DC said, with Phoenix and Final Attack it makes it rather easy (and this helps with both bosses), but you have the added difficultly of only having 1 person to play with. A tip I use when fighting Ruby is to use Dazer's on him. It will paralyze him briefly and you cna use this time to heal or attack, whatever. Plus his Ultima counter-attack is a pain.

Pretty fun that both Ruby and Emerald weapon are both harder than the last bosses in the game,Jenova and Sephiroth.

Its not that funny it happens in all Final Fantasys if you think about it
FFVIII: Ultima Weapon
FFIX: Ozma
FFX: Nemisis
FFX-2: Trema
And my point is made

Actually that move does exactly 9999 damage to your entire party and the only way to survive it is to have final attack materia combined with either Life materia, or better yet, mastered phoenix materia.

And you better have Phoenix mastered, cause there's a good chance you'll need it numerous times.

My vote goes to emerald weapon for sure.


actually it does 1000hp per peice of materia equiped i beleive so u cold avoid it by having little materia equiped on at least one character

That's an unnessacary measure. Plus, it weakens one of your characters for the whole battle.

Its not that funny it happens in all Final Fantasys if you think about it
FFVIII: Ultima Weapon
FFIX: Ozma
FFX: Nemisis
FFX-2: Trema
And my point is made

You can't be serious. Omega Weapon is 323908575876308957639056 times harder than Ultima Weapon. (neither was actually hard if you really knew what you were doing)

four hundred

actually it does 1000hp per peice of materia equiped i beleive so u cold avoid it by having little materia equiped on at least one character

I never knew this actually. So if you take the time to get your materia mastered, you can get master materia, apply that on 1 character and he'll live through it. :)
But which piece gives you the master materia?? The desert rose or the earth harp??

Its not that funny it happens in all Final Fantasys if you think about it
FFVIII: Ultima Weapon
FFIX: Ozma
FFX: Nemisis
FFX-2: Trema
And my point is made


FFX: Nemesis ????? where is he ???

is it just like that boss u get Kimaros final overdrive????

Emeralds air tram thing does 1111 per each piece of materia, and you get the master materia for handing in the earth harp, which is quite a bummer.I think you fight nemisis by completing the monster arena then selectink nemisis as your next destination ( i think )
You get a gold chocobo for the desert rose.

Its not that funny it happens in all Final Fantasys if you think about it
FFVIII: Ultima Weapon
FFIX: Ozma
FFX: Nemisis
FFX-2: Trema
And my point is made

In fact, in FFX it is Penance that is the hardest boss, not Nemesis.


Emeralds air tram thing does 1111 per each piece of materia, and you get the master materia for handing in the earth harp, which is quite a bummer.I think you fight nemisis by completing the monster arena then selectink nemisis as your next destination ( i think )
You get a gold chocobo for the desert rose.

As most people know, the attack (which is more correctly) called Aire Tam Storm, is materia spelt backwards (maTeriA) which is a clue to what it does.

First of all I meant Omega
Second Nemisis is in the Monster Arena where if you have done everything he is your last task to beat
Thirdly I cant really say who is harder out of Penance and Nemisis as I havent beat Penance properly (as you might have guessed I used Zanmato)

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Emerald Weapon was the hardest cos you take him on first to get Master materia which makes Ruby Weapon easier.

If you take on Emerald with 3 mimes, 3 Enemy Skills with Big Guard on them. I only had KOTR mastered to a level 2, W-Summon and level 1, you can only mime the KOTR if none of your characters die and they don`t use counter. If you give a character magic plus materia then KOTR damage will increase. Load the character with HP plus and Speed plus and Emerald won`t get any as many goes as usual, this is a lot more useful than casting Haste. Cast Regen and Big guard at the start and he shouldn`t be able to kill ya.

I think Ruby Weapon is hardest out of the two. Because he has moves which take off a lot of damage. Like, Shadow Flare, Ultima, Comet/Comet2, and also moves which cause multiple status effects. Whereas Emerald doesn't cause any status effects, and you can even avoid a move which causes certain death with the materia technique. Plus the fact, by then you can use as many megalixirs as needed and still get in one or two turns afterwards. This cannot be done with Ruby.

Their is any easy way to set yourself up for Ruby, Get the Ribbon from Temple of the Ancients, find the other one in the secret area in the frozen caves, its in the area where you fight the Stilvas and then morph a couple of Tonberrys down in the North Crater so all 3 of your party have Ribbons, needless to say that none of Ruby`s status changes can touch ya. When fighting Ruby pair KOTR with HP absorb so you get all your HP back, you will always have one character alive. Remember the tactic to go into battle with 2 of your characters KO`d so he won`t do whilrlsand.

I think it is all a matter of being equppied right.

I find it a pain to level everybody up to the maximum so I always max out one character (Yuffie), and kill both Weapons with her limit break 'Doom of the Living'. I also allow Ruby to use Whirlsand on the two I won't be using so if she should die, Final Attack will resurrect her only and not the other two allies. This saves Yuffie from possibly being eliminated with Whirlsand and then stuck with two weaker people.

actually it does 1111hp per peice of materia equiped i beleive so u cold avoid it by having little materia equiped on at least one character
Fixed

EDIT: and now I just realised that that post was from several months ago. Carry on then.

Emerald was far harder.

Ruby: You mimic KOTR with Pheonix as a final attack, its then impossible to lose (even if he knocks out one of your guys, the other two can mimic.) As long as you keep this up the odds of him 'removing' all three party members before you kill him is very unlikely.

Emerald: Pretty much the same tactic as for Ruby, except Emerald has 2 or three times as much life, hence takes a LOT longer, and you have to sit through KOTR Zeuss only knows how many times. This gets boring and i found i usually end up making mistakes, one normal attack instead of mimic and its game over.

BTW anyone find a use for the Earth Harp (item from emerald)?

And anyone else find it amusing you can use the desert rose from Ruby weapon to exchange for a Gold Chocobo.....but to defeat Ruby you need KOTR, to get KOTR you need a Gold Chocobo.. see where i'm going with this!

BTW anyone find a use for the Earth Harp (item from emerald)?

Give it to the old man in Kalm, just like you did with the desert rose.

Emerald Weapon is easy, you only need Tifa at Lv 7 :P (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFVLmyzism0)

Emerald Weapon is easy, you only need Tifa at Lv 7 :P (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFVLmyzism0)

Very Nice! I watched half of it, i'll take your word Tifa wins in the end!

Suppose that'll work on Ruby just as well?

Actually, it works even better on Ruby. For being the ultimate 'boss' in the game, Ruby sucks. It's vulnerable to 'Stop' status. So instead of double KotR's, you stick a master-summon on and go Hades/KotR. Which stops Ruby. Which prevents its Ultima counter.

And to answer the original question--neither. They're both stupidly easy if you take half a minute to think about how you can abuse the system.

Definently Ruby, he was way harder.

You don`t need to be on a high level to beat either though, I was only level 55 or so.

...or Tifa at level 7 ;P

emerald is def harder because u can paralyse ruby

You can paralyse him?

I didn't even bother because I didn't think you could actually paralyse them.

o_O

Anyone wanna give me tips on how to actually kill them?

Because I still haven't.

:D

emerald and ruby were sorry excuses for bosses....Valkyrie Profile had damn-near impossible ones, and i dont see why so many people have trouble with these guys.....
Emerald: equip only underwater materia and use dazers (hint: buy 99 of them)
Ruby: equip entire party with tetra elemental accessory, go into battle with only one party member conscious use phoenix when his hands are in the ground and use dazers on his arms (only his arms), his ruby flame will be used to recover any lost hp from his hands becoming unparalyzed

emerald weapon was harder than ruby weapon, but, they were both easy.
Emerald weapon: use final attack + phoenix(mastered) and w-summon KOTR, heal when needed using megalixers.

Ruby weapon: kill 2 chars before the battle, revive them when claws are in the ground. get one of the characters to use hades on the claws (it will stop both ruby and the claws) then get a char with w-summon to hit the claws with KOTR. (he wont retaliate with ultima cos hes stopped).

not that hard

I took on Ruby once, and got my ass kicked since I did not know what to do, I have heard emerald is supposed to be harder.