NickG
10-24-2005, 09:13 PM
We all love the FF series. But what do we feel ashamed of about it? Perhaps we are ashamed of some of the bad graphics in earlier versions, or shoddy storylines in the later series (none of these are my opinions). Post your thoughts on what makes you feel ashamed to be a FF gamer. It does'nt have to be on the games only. It could be that we "overrate" things or something. I'll note now that this is not a thread on what you are ashamed of about playing the games yourself (i.e. don't post things like "I can't complete all the side-quests or something).

Swedish Fish
10-24-2005, 09:51 PM
I am not ashamed to be an FF gamer. I do agree that FFVII and FFVIII had a few holes and left a few/a lot questions. We do overrate FFVII, although it is a good game. Bad graphics don't do anything to an otherwise good game.

NickG
10-24-2005, 09:56 PM
Oh oh oh you just reminded me of sumthing I meant to say in another thread; that graphics DO NOT ALWAYS MATTER. Of course, I dont' mean a game with 4 huge pixels will be great, but still. And if the graphics are great, it adds to the game anyway. But as a "bonus" score, and not to the total score.

Swedish Fish
10-24-2005, 10:00 PM
Completely true. That cannot be impressed upon new gamers enough. My bro thinks graphics are everything (he's 8).

NickG
10-24-2005, 10:05 PM
Well, your bro's 8, but mine is 14 and he thinks graphics are what makes a game the best it can be. And no, hes not dyslexic OR autistic, but something must be wrong. Ah well, I guess different people have different stereotypes (btw, I'm also implying ourselves when we say this).

Swedish Fish
10-24-2005, 10:10 PM
Yes we do, but I consider us the true gamers. We take pleasure in the game itself. Not that people who like games for other reasons don't have good reasons to like them, but it doesn't seem so...so real.

NickG
10-24-2005, 10:13 PM
Quote from budweiser adverts "true, true"

Yui
10-25-2005, 11:40 PM
I'm very ashamed of FFXI, because you have to pay for it monthly in order to play it. :(

CecilTheTruePaladin
10-26-2005, 03:39 AM
I only started at 8, but I actualy prefer the older ones, 4 is my fave
LOVE 4
LOVE 4
LOVE 4
LOVE 4
LOVE 4
LOVE 4
LOVE 4

Alot of the new ones plots are flawed "X & X-2"

Did I mention I love 4?

Wattson
10-28-2005, 03:46 PM
NickG, how about you offer your own opinion in threads you make?

I'm ashamed of FFVII and all of its spinoff products - they're absolutley terrible. I'm also ashamed of how horrendous square allowed FFXI to be. They could've done something to control its crappy economy, and they did, only two or three years after release. :/

pedo mc tax me softly, black person (whom i love)
10-28-2005, 05:44 PM
I'm ashamed of the General Final Fantasy forum on FFShrine.

NickG
10-28-2005, 08:48 PM
Nice one, Odin! Mr. WrongPants - usually I don't post my opinions because my threads are usually asking for other's opinions. But, as you asked for it, my opinion is:
I'm ashamed that a lot of the games are mocked; this shouldn't have happened to such great games, and I feel mocked myself. Also that some games could only be played on the SNES for such a long time, and that FFIII hasn't ever been remade for so long, whilst the others have (it's such a great game...).
It's not much of an opinion, but my opinions aren't really valuable to anybody...

Benny
10-28-2005, 10:02 PM
Personally iam not ashamed to be a FF gamer just like FF_Fanatic, but the only time i will be ashamed is while playing FFX-2 watching Yuna do some skimpy dance and someone walks in and see's it lol, but apart from that silly comment im not ashamed at all. It's a great series that does not deserve to be abandoned just because you get mocked for it.

MossY
10-28-2005, 10:06 PM
I'm ashamed of the General Final Fantasy forum on FFShrine.
So true. In all honesty, I never play Final Fantasy anymore and have kind of grown out of it. When I did play the games I wasn't ashamed to admit I played them.

Sephiroth's son
11-02-2005, 08:39 PM
I'm very ashamed of FFXI, because you have to pay for it monthly in order to play it. :(

d1soldier
11-03-2005, 06:59 AM
im ashamed that they never change the story lines same formula different names

Duality
11-04-2005, 08:40 AM
I'm very ashamed of FFXI, because you have to pay for it monthly in order to play it.
This really sucks, especially if your on a very low income, and has always stopped me from playing it

Benny
11-04-2005, 08:44 AM
I see your point, but however as Prak has stated before. They were doing this to pay the developers who were making the constant upgrades and changes to the game. So they couldnt just not charge you really.

Prak
11-04-2005, 08:45 AM
That's a stupid opinion. Why shouldn't you have to keep paying to play it if Square-Enix has to keep paying to keep the game running? Practically any MMORPG worth playing is like that, and for good reason.

Duality
11-04-2005, 08:54 AM
i see your point, and despite that fact that i agree, money players pay=money for XI maintenance, i still dont like the fact that they charge for it, or didnt release an offline version for those who couldnt afford to play it online.

That, to me at least, would have been better for both us and square as they'd be able to get to everyone in the potential market.

pedo mc tax me softly, black person (whom i love)
11-07-2005, 04:30 PM
A single-player campaign for FFXI?

Oh, that's just ludicrous!

Dark Mage626
12-19-2005, 08:09 AM
I'm ashamed of the english voice overs put on 10. They were done crap. I'm ashamed of males looking like females on ff games. My friend thought Larsa (A.K.A Ramon from ffxii) was a girl.
I thought the graphics on VIII and up were nothing to complain about(VII's graphics wernt bad either). But like people were saying before graphics don't matter.

Swedish Fish
12-20-2005, 12:54 AM
Since this thread was revived, I'll say that X did have really queer english voice overs.

Benny
12-20-2005, 01:06 AM
Yeah i agree, but most of that is lost amongest the great envirnment and rich storyline.

Thanatos
12-20-2005, 04:45 AM
You all are missing the mark on FFXI. The problem is not that you have to pay. As Prak said, any MMORPG worth playing has a charge (with the exception of Guild Wars). The thing that I am ashamed of is that they called it Final Fantasy XI instead of Final Fantasy Online, like it should have been. Trying to pass off a MMORPG as one of the official installments is just wrong.

Agent0042
12-20-2005, 04:58 AM
You know, I've decided that I'm beyond shame. Sure, there are some things I don't like and some I'd change, but overall, I think it's a great series. So I don't see any point in complaining too loudly or too much.

ThroneofOminous
12-20-2005, 05:07 AM
I’m ashamed of anyone who complained about FFIII: DS. Serious, Square-Enix finally decided to do something other than a crappy port with a couple of additional features; how this could be interpreted as a bad thing is beyond me…

Starscream
06-13-2006, 07:11 PM
You know, I've decided that I'm beyond shame. Sure, there are some things I don't like and some I'd change, but overall, I think it's a great series. So I don't see any point in complaining too loudly or too much.
Yeah, I agree with this. I'm not ashamed to admit I like FF, even though over where I live, most people play consoles for football games. I always put out my opinion because generally they're just morons who's only response is:
"Final Fantasy is borin'!"

Desert Wolf
06-13-2006, 08:32 PM
Yeah, I agree with this. I'm not ashamed to admit I like FF, even though over where I live, most people play consoles for football games. I always put out my opinion because generally they're just morons who's only response is:
"Final Fantasy is borin'!"

Sounds like a lot of people over here actually.

DarkLadyNyara
06-15-2006, 09:52 AM
I'm ashamed of X-2, and VIII. I'm also ashamed of FFVII fanboys. :(

ekinserge
06-15-2006, 10:02 AM
i'm ashamed that some people can't stand other people opinion...

and then try to insult with bad words...

so underage...

Starscream
06-15-2006, 04:42 PM
i'm ashamed that I can't post anything relevant in this thread.

The Chocobo Knight
06-15-2006, 05:15 PM
When indtroducing ff to someone, you often get laughed at because of the fighting stlye or the crap graphics ( Only the old ones )

SquallnRinoa4eva
06-16-2006, 05:19 PM
Hey dudes, 'sup. Final Fantasy 8 is da best storyline no dout bout that. The only final fantasy im ashamed of is X-2! THE CHESSEYNESS! Oh what a painfull sight, to see to see an amasing game like ffX destroyed by some hollywood wannabe lesbian trio. THE HORROR! etc. >:(

Memento Mori
06-16-2006, 05:26 PM
anyone who is ashamed of a part of their lives have deeper problems to attend to, IMO...

Prak
06-16-2006, 05:29 PM
It makes me genuinely sad for the future of humanity that I cannot call shenanigans on SquallnRinoa4eva. It's amazing that someone can sound so remarkably stupid.

Memento Mori
06-16-2006, 05:32 PM
Prak: And he's so grammatically correct too!!!

Swedish Fish
06-16-2006, 06:00 PM
Oh what a painfull sight, to see to see an amasing game like ffX destroyed by some hollywood wannabe lesbian trio.(

X killed itself with horrible voice-overs and a main character who sounded like spoiled, rich kid.

Prak
06-16-2006, 06:10 PM
That's basically what the main character was, iirc. Kind of hard to knock it for that.

Swedish Fish
06-16-2006, 06:15 PM
Kind of hard to knock it for that.

Those were just two points off the top of my head.

ekinserge
06-16-2006, 06:21 PM
what i feel ashamed of about ff is when they make the next ff as the same old as the previous one...

i love changes...

Starscream
06-17-2006, 12:03 PM
what i feel ashamed of about ff is when they make the next ff as the same old as the previous one...

i love changes...

WTF? Translation please.

SquallnRinoa4eva
06-17-2006, 12:39 PM
Leave ekinserge alone, unlike me he has the wisdon, the knowlage and the grammar skill that could pass over yours. He lives in malaysia too, your the one supposed to translate to him. Kalias A valid point on the rich kid thing. But if you look beond that you can see that its a tale of friendship father and son bondage etc. I understand what your sayin, though.:)

Avinite
06-17-2006, 12:53 PM
and the grammar skill that could pass over yours.

Ok, I have to raise a point. I've never seen a capital letter from the kid.

SquallnRinoa4eva
06-17-2006, 01:08 PM
Fair enough, although I still think people should leave him alone. On my oppinon (i know I spelt it wrong dont start.) Final Fantasy XII looks kinda weird, just as weird as me (ok....mabye not that weird, but still.) I mean fair enouf making a new final fantasy. I want that, but to change the battle controls and ideas that exsited throught ff history is kinda going against its law, isn't it? I know that people think the battle system was retardish but it was originally the base on all japanese rpg's wasn't it. Maybe not chrono trigger but it was on the same line.

Prak
06-17-2006, 04:51 PM
It's called evolution. Games can support a more complicated system now, so they might as well use them. Do you honestly think the original FF games would have used turn-based systems if they didn't have to?

SquallnRinoa4eva
06-17-2006, 04:54 PM
Fair play man, very valid point.

ekinserge
06-17-2006, 05:25 PM
changes is good...

changes that makes ff still remain till now...

of course for the first time it looks kinda awkward, but once you got the controller in your hand, there is more than meets the eye...

SquallnRinoa4eva
06-17-2006, 05:30 PM
Another very good point. I see what you guys are saying now.:)

Yuna's_Reincarnation
06-17-2006, 05:59 PM
i am ashamed at the lack of it in my area

ekinserge
06-17-2006, 06:00 PM
i am ashamed at the lack of it in my area

what do you mean girl?...

Yuna's_Reincarnation
06-17-2006, 06:01 PM
i mean there isn't alot of fans and as soon as i mentioned it there was a groan

ekinserge
06-17-2006, 06:06 PM
allright, i understand...

lucky ff is widely known at my country...

thanks to our local magazine...

www.gempakstarz.com

Yuna's_Reincarnation
06-17-2006, 06:17 PM
lucky you i wish it was like that here

ROKI
06-18-2006, 01:36 PM
Here is known a bit.
Well most ppl here love videogames with cars, FPS and fighting.

SquallnRinoa4eva
06-18-2006, 02:22 PM
The fact that people find it babyish, when they haven't even played it. (some guy in plymouth really took the piss out of it!):(