This may have been posted before, I don't know, but, are there any major plotholes in FFX that you guys know about? I do wonder about the Ronso suddenly appearing, they were never in any of the spheres and then all of a sudden there they are.

not completed it yet, but the whole Tidus and Zanarkand all being a dream thing is a bit far fetched...

I really wouldn't call these holes. You just really need to pay attention to the storyline and some things become apparent. Other things, like with the Ronso, just happen. When someone says plotholes, I immeadiatel think of FFVII. FFX seems decently understandable. Although it took me two playthroughs to actually figure it out.

not completed it yet, but the whole Tidus and Zanarkand all being a dream thing is a bit far fetched...

Where are the holes in that?


One hole i can find is How did Jecth ended up in Spira

i guess there's no holes in what i said. it just seems a bit... stupid. they don't make 'em like they used to, that's for sure.

I really wouldn't call these holes. You just really need to pay attention to the storyline and some things become apparent. Other things, like with the Ronso, just happen. When someone says plotholes, I immeadiatel think of FFVII. FFX seems decently understandable. Although it took me two playthroughs to actually figure it out.
I haven't finished it yet, but I'm near the end and can understand everyting.

I posted for plotholes precisely because there are no obvious ones, I like to find out about these things.

How the Hell did Jecht ended up in Spira

Like I said, I haven't completed it, but ye, how the hell DID Jecht get into Spira? I think it has something to do with Auron. Wait, I know there are probably simple facts to prove this wrong, but maybe Spira is Tidus' world [insert number of years since Zanarkand was destroyed here] on. They just call it Spira or something.

How the Hell did Jecht ended up in Spira
Sin brought him there.

Just as Yui said, Sin brought him to Spira. If I recall it correctly, the fayth in Bevelle's temple, the boy that Tidus's talks to at the beginning of the game says that Sin is the link between Spira and Dream Zanarkand. Thus, Sin must be able to travel back and forth between the two.

Theres no plot holes, just annoying characters and one bad story, any one know if ten was done by 4Kids animation it would explain it all, there cheap, and dont know the story, there for the japanese with subs would be better

But I thought Sin doesn't exist until Jecht does somehing phsychadelic like getting the wrong stuff in his bong. Do we know how Jecht becomes Sin? Oh wait, doesn't Jecht become Braska's Aeon when they meet Yunalesca? Not sure.

If Sin took him, how the hell did none of a Zanarkand saw him, hell he's pretty large and Jecth wasn't that far from Shore, also wouldn't Sin attack the concentration of people? And how did Sin get to Dream Zanarkand, And if he did how come he never attacked no one and not being record of him there?

@Nick G: Sin is a Summoner's Final Aeon possessed by Yu Yevon, Yunalesca turned Jecth into Braska's Final Aeon, so he is Sin

If Sin took him, how the hell did none of a Zanarkand saw him, hell he's pretty large and Jecth wasn't that far from Shore, also wouldn't Sin attack the concentration of people?

What exactly are you trying to ask?

Look it could have been far offshore, perhaps sin was in a bad mood, I thought that area was covered pretty well actually.

CecilTheTruePaladin- Sod off, if you aren't going to post something interesting and contributive I don't want to hear it.

Here's what I think:

The summoners of the real Zanarkand summoned Dream Zanarkand and Yu Yevon who's one those summoners, summoned Sin. Now, Zanarkand is destroyed and Dream Zanarkand was still there(being summoned by the fayth). Now, we all know that Sin is the link between the Dream Zanarkand and Spira. So, now that there is no real Zanarkand(just Dream Zanarkand) and there's Sin, Sin was just going between Dream Zanarkand and Spira.

Now, while practicing in the ocean, Jecht(of course, is a blitzball player and he might have been practicing in far depths of the ocean) might have been near Sin and he was transported to Spira.

Now, after Jecht became Sin, he came back to Dream Zanarkand to get his undead friend, Auron to Zanarkand to get his son, Tidus, to Spira, to help Yuna in her quest and save Spira once and for all.

Yevon is the sole summoner from Zanarkand, and he's summoning Dream Zanarkand. Sin isn't summoned.

What exactly are you trying to ask?

It's not a question i'm only saying that Sin couldn't took Jecht and not be seen by no one

It's not a question i'm only saying that Sin couldn't took Jecht and not be seen by no one

Right... and?

I think it wasn't Sin that took Jecht to Zanarkand

I think it was, that was obvious, they made it very obvious, although I dosupprt your point that Sin was that close to people and didn't attack, that's confusing.

When Tidus was transported, Dream Zanarkand was attacked. What makes you think it wasn't attacked when Jecht was transported?

Quoting Tidus:

"One day he just went out to the sea to train and never came back"

It shows that Tidus was still alive when Jecht disappeared, and that Sin didn't attack Zanarkand, as Jecht travelled to Spira, 3 years, I believe the game says, before Tidus did. I find it hard to believe that even Yu Yevon could summon the entire Dream Zanarkand to it's originality in 3 years.

I'm always open to the possibility that it was attacked since this particular aspect of the story remains open. While that particular quote implies that he simply disappeared silently, it contradicts Sin's behavioural patterns. There are basically three explanations:<ol><li>Sin attacked Zanarkand, but due to Yu Yevon summoning everything back to normal (sans Jecht), Tidus and everyone else simply thought Jecht disappeared. This would have been ten years ago.</li><li>Jecht was so far off shore than Sin managed to simply transport Jecht without coming into contact with the rest of Dream Zanarkand.</li><li>The fayth of the previous final aeon managed to control Sin to the point of not attacking Dream Zanarkand. This Sin would have emerged at least 80 years ago, so this scenario is unlikely.</li></ol>

Good point, well made. So.........any other plot holes for me?

Yevon is the sole summoner from Zanarkand, and he's summoning Dream Zanarkand. Sin isn't summoned.

That is untrue. The fayth of Bevelle tells Yuna and Tidus that Yu Yevon merges with the fayth, and then together they summon the shell that is Sin. Not in those exact words, but that's the main point he's trying to get across. The Bevelle fayth says they are fayth for the summoning...the summoning of the dream, or Dream Zanarkand.



1. Sin attacked Zanarkand, but due to Yu Yevon summoning everything back to normal (sans Jecht), Tidus and everyone else simply thought Jecht disappeared. This would have been ten years ago.


If I am understanding what you are saying correctly, this is also untrue. Yu Yevon doesn't summon Dream Zanarkand. The fayth in the temples and all those fayth on Mount Gagazet are summoning Dream Zanarkand. This is again told by the fayth from Bevelle.

When I say all this, I'm not trying to be rude or harsh in any way. I'm just presenting some of the facts that one might misunderstand.

That is untrue. The fayth of Bevelle tells Yuna and Tidus that Yu Yevon merges with the fayth, and then together they summon the shell that is Sin. Not in those exact words, but that's the main point he's trying to get across. The Bevelle fayth says they are fayth for the summoning...the summoning of the dream, or Dream Zanarkand.

"They" are the fayth for the "summoning". You just said it yourself; the dream is Dream Zanarkand; Dream Zanarkand is being summoned. Also, it does not say anywhere in the game that Sin is summoned. If you think it does, prove it.


If I am understanding what you are saying correctly, this is also untrue. Yu Yevon doesn't summon Dream Zanarkand. The fayth in the temples and all those fayth on Mount Gagazet are summoning Dream Zanarkand. This is again told by the fayth from Bevelle.

You're contradicting the first part of your post now. The fayth can't summon. This is a basic concept of the story; the fayth dream and a summoner summons that dream. Yu Yevon is the summoner, and he is summoning Dream Zanarkand. Dream Zanarkand is the "dream of the fayth".


When I say all this, I'm not trying to be rude or harsh in any way. I'm just presenting some of the facts that one might misunderstand.

I'm not misunderstanding anything; I perfectly understand the story of FFX. You need to check your facts first before trying to falsify what I say. It's you who's the one that completely misunderstands the facts presented in the story, to the extent that you don't even understand how summoning works.

Oi, Jewels, please, if you disagree, feel free to say it, but be a little less harsh about it, there's really no need to get so agro.

It ticks me off when people so misinformed about the issue at hand try to make it seem like I'm the one who's ignorant. It's not even about agreeing or disagreeing since we're talking about the basic facts of the story; they cannot be debated upon.

Well, now that I think about it, you're right. My mistake...I feel really stupid for trying to argue in favor of something that was totally incorrect. I apologize.

Okay, now that's settled, anyone else got any thoughts?

For the guy who put somewhere that jecht is sin cause he messed up or something thats wrong he became sin because he became braskas final aeon(regardless of how much auron protested being just like tidus)and fought sin.Now when a final aeon beats sin Yu Yevon takes the final aeon as his power source and uses it to create a new armour around himself known as sin!This is why he can never be beaten the traditional way.And yeah yu yevon DOES summon dream zanarkand.This was done by sacrificing everyone in the orignal zanarkand.Kinda how to reate an aeon someone had to sacrifice themselves to become a fayth it took all those people to create the huge dream zanarkand.He did this out in the ocean where he created the dream zanarkand with the sacrifice he made.Now to prevent anyone from ever finding dream zanarkand which is a giant summon, he programed the livign armour he made "sin" to attack heavely populated areas with technology this way no one would ever find dream zanarkand.Now considering this i beleive that whilst jecht sailed out one day(this is highly unlikely but still a theory)he comes across spira.Now he goes abotu saying hes from the zanarkand abes and stuff talking about zanarkand still being around he gets locked up considered a lunatic.AS you see in one of the spheres you find around spira braska and auron take him from a cell and use him as one of braskas guardians.Yu yevon eventually went crazy from trying to keep dream zanarkand safe and controlling sins actions.He just starts going on a rampage for a millenium destroying everything.Now Jewels you ovbiously know much about FFX as ive seen from your posts and im not sure if this is 100% accurate but im sure its in the 90% range so if you see anything wrong with this please let me know cause ive seen everything you post as correct you even corrected me back in the post about aeons lol.