I was playing through FFVII again recently, and right before I was about to save, I got the ever infamous face-face-bar. I was forced to watch as my seemingly invulnerable party (over level 50 at the beginning of disk two) were enveloped within strange purple skulls that were lethal, regardless of any protection my characters might have had.

So I wonder, did Square HAVE to put in the threat of instant death in the use of a character's limit break? I mean, I know it's sort of the counterpart to the Instant Victory, with Cait Sith's full face, which can even defeat the Emerald and Ruby Weapons or the last boss. But really, instant death?

So I was wondering, who else has had this experience, who has gotten an Instant Victory, and is one more likely than the other? And is it even worth it to use slots, when the Dice limit break is at least close to as powerful and comes much more quickly?

Heh. One of my favorite (actually, one of my only decent...) memories from playing FFVII was the first time I used Cait Sith's slots. I got the face-face-bar. I wasn't at all bothered by it; in fact, I found it hilarious. I used his slots limit all the time trying to duplicate it, but even though I got the full face 3-4 times, I never got the face-face-bar again.

the face-face-bar i found is actually really hard to get. i never really use cait sith though, but i wonder if the instant win works on bosses?

I only used caith sith for slots and dice only and i dont know about this face-face-bar stuff.Pls explain??!!!

The face-face-bar is the slot combination for the attack called "Death Joker." The attack engulfs YOUR characters with strange purple skulls, and you get an automatic game over.

I'm fairly certain that the instant win works on bosses, because I remember Selfie's "The End" finished off Diablos when my friend used it in FFVIII, so I figure it was the same in FFVII. Plus, it's not like the instant death doesn't work if you're fighting a boss, so it's only fair.

I never really used Cait Sith so i wouldn`t know where to begin. :(

Same here, but i wouldn't use his slots, to risky if u ask me, while instant victory is a very nice thing, the counterpart of that always hurts lol.

Besides, if u want victory get some cool materias and lv up your chars, watch them become stronger and stronger and enjoy your power :) that is my way to win

Besides, an instant win is boring, a good battle is always more challenging and gives me the chance to see how good i have become :)

How is it possible to think that an attack backfiring and killing your entire party is not funny? I always find it hilarious.

"The Badguy" has posted on a couple threads "The key to beat the Weapons quick and easy is Cait Sith" maybe thats what he means?

yeah, it was a bitch but then i got instant victory a month later and said haljalualla or how ever thats spelled

It would be even funnier if you accendently used kotr on yourself due to getting confused just before you cast the spell.
Something similar happened to me only with aqualung instead, in the shinra mansion.

I never use cait sith if i don't have to so ive never got insta-win or insta-death, and ive never got lucky 7's either. yet i play this game loads.

I have something weird like that One time i was playing with my party fighting headhunters and those stupid slug things you fight sometimes too, and I had Cloud and Barret killed off so Cid would do all the killing, and at the end of one of my battles a message came up and said "Lucky 7's" keep in mind i had no cait sith in my party, and i didnt use any crazy enemy skills or anything. and the next battle i started Cid was at 1 hp and a headhunter just hit me and i died and lost.

Whats the Deal with that?

The face-face-bar is the slot combination for the attack called "Death Joker." The attack engulfs YOUR characters with strange purple skulls, and you get an automatic game over.

I'm fairly certain that the instant win works on bosses, because I remember Selfie's "The End" finished off Diablos when my friend used it in FFVIII, so I figure it was the same in FFVII. Plus, it's not like the instant death doesn't work if you're fighting a boss, so it's only fair.


But selphie's The End doesn't kill Ultimecia and i'm pretty sure it didn't kill Omega Weapon, i didn't use Cait Sith so it can kill bosses but maybe it can't kill the last ones and the Weapons

I used it on Emerald. I had his limit ready and I just kept doing it over and over until it hit face face face and it killed emerald. In...10 min of restarting the game.

It would be even funnier if you accendently used kotr on yourself due to getting confused just before you cast the spell.
Something similar happened to me only with aqualung instead, in the shinra mansion.

That can happen with Aqualung, yes, but you can't summon against yourself. Nor can you reflect a summon. I guess the game makers wanted some sort of saving grace from confuse, but I know that you can't be hit by one of your own summons, whether the enemy has reflect or you're confused.

I have never used Cait Sith in my life. It's either:
Cloud, Barret, Red
Cloud Barret Cid
Cloud Cid Red
Cloud Barret Yuffie
Cloud Cid Yuffie
Cloud Red Yuffie.

I have never used Cait Sith in my life. It's either:
Cloud, Barret, Red
Cloud Barret Cid
Cloud Cid Red
Cloud Barret Yuffie
Cloud Cid Yuffie
Cloud Red Yuffie.

That's very nice, but this thread is about Cait Sith's slots. Please don't bother telling me that you don't like Cait Sith; if you absolutely have to, make your own thread.

I have something weird like that One time i was playing with my party fighting headhunters and those stupid slug things you fight sometimes too, and I had Cloud and Barret killed off so Cid would do all the killing, and at the end of one of my battles a message came up and said "Lucky 7's" keep in mind i had no cait sith in my party, and i didnt use any crazy enemy skills or anything. and the next battle i started Cid was at 1 hp and a headhunter just hit me and i died and lost.

Whats the Deal with that?


Lucky 7's doesn't necessairly (sp?) occur with Cait Sith . It occurs when one of your characters gets an HP of 7777, afterwards your power increases and you always land a hit of 7777 each time. When you start the next battle your HP is automatically reduced to 1.

that cait sith it�s like cheating, cait sith and game shark are the same

You're an idiot. If it's built into the game mechanic, it isn't a cheat. That's doubly true considering you have equal odds of your party dying when you use the slots.

Cait siths limit is similar to other moves like kotr and omni slash in the sense that they beat almost any fight in the game 1st time. Only his isn't a move you can use everytime.
Cait sith is not cheating otherwise he would be a hidden character rather than one you HAVE to get.

It isn't cheating to get any of the hidden characters either.

Same here, but i wouldn't use his slots, to risky if u ask me, while instant victory is a very nice thing, the counterpart of that always hurts lol.

Besides, if u want victory get some cool materias and lv up your chars, watch them become stronger and stronger and enjoy your power :) that is my way to win

Besides, an instant win is boring, a good battle is always more challenging and gives me the chance to see how good i have become :)

No offence, but to and extent, you don't need skill to be good at RPG's.
Yes, if you level up to level 100 and find everything without a walkthrough that is excellent. However unlike say a shooting game, where you have to be either stealthy or very good with a gun, you only need to train your ass off to be good at them.

As for Cait Sith, i actually find him to be a very cool character, i know he looks like a pokemon, but he is quite smart and powerful.

Well, ONE of the hidden chars is at least. This IS NOT a rumor, I have tested it myself:
Go to Goblin Island, after a while you'll get into a fight with a monster/char named Boxer, defeat him and you go to a scene like the one after you beat Yuffie. You have to select the CORRECT answers and he will join you, I repeat, THIS IS NOT A RUMOR.

Unfortuanlly Dark~Cloud, that is a rumor. It is compleaty a farce. Unless of course the chances are finding him are one in next to impossible. It's been tested again and again and it's false

That has to be a rumour and a pretty stupid one at that.

And also, none of the hidden characters cant be considered cheating or else they wouldnt be embedded in the game.

Ok guys, please discuss the slots or let this thread die. Talking about getting this random character on the Goblin Isle has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

About the Death to All thing, I officially agree with Prak. It's just hilarious. I mean, it was kind of irritating at first, but now, when I look back, it was just funny. I had to go all the way back to the last save point because Cait Sith's limit break backfired and killed my party. I think the potential for this makes it worth it to use Cait Sith simply to add humor to the game.

True. Every FF must have a comin relief character. People like Gau, Caith sith, Quina, Rikku, and Zell are all there, but some, are better than others.

Ok guys, please discuss the slots or let this thread die. Talking about getting this random character on the Goblin Isle has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

About the Death to All thing, I officially agree with Prak. It's just hilarious. I mean, it was kind of irritating at first, but now, when I look back, it was just funny. I had to go all the way back to the last save point because Cait Sith's limit break backfired and killed my party. I think the potential for this makes it worth it to use Cait Sith simply to add humor to the game.


Sorry about all that.


But isn't it just frustrating? What if you saved the game awhile back and forgot to save it again and then those slots magically appear and you have to do everything all over again :O

That's exactly what happened to me. It was irritating when it happened, but now it's just funny.

Hahaha, this is why I don't use "gamble" characters.

Well, ONE of the hidden chars is at least. This IS NOT a rumor, I have tested it myself:
Go to Goblin Island, after a while you'll get into a fight with a monster/char named Boxer, defeat him and you go to a scene like the one after you beat Yuffie. You have to select the CORRECT answers and he will join you, I repeat, THIS IS NOT A RUMOR.

ok would you care to tell me the answers to the questions and who it is you unlock if correctly answering the questions...and then il see if i can be botherd to try it

Setzers Slots Were Fantastic... I Came to the Conclusion that Cait Sith Arent Anywhere Near As Good... Especially Considering As how he has Dice Which Is less Fucking Around And Tons of Damage. However The Insta-win Thing Does Work On The Weapons Im Not Sure About Sephiroth Though... He's too Easy To Kill Anyway you Wouldnt need it... The Weapons Are A genuine Challenge

They had something like that in FFVI.

I thought it was pretty neat.

sorry, is just that cait sith makes a weapon look like a child, it takes the fun out of the game, when you are figthing a boss you expect a challence, not a one hit win

I don't think you get the one-hit wins often though. Aren't they pretty rare?

not if you reset your game until you have it, just like everyone that kills a weapon with cait sith

I wouldn't want to reset my game often just to get it.

that is not what everybody does, most of the people that kills a weapon with the method of cait sith is because they reset

sorry, is just that cait sith makes a weapon look like a child, it takes the fun out of the game, when you are figthing a boss you expect a challence, not a one hit win


Has anyone SEEN THIS WITH THERE OWN EYES? To many assumptions..

Does anyone actually take anything Balam says seriously? He/she/it is certainly among the worst n00bs in recent history. :(

lol
Don`t worry Prak, you ain`t alone.

Does anyone actually take anything Balam says seriously? He/she/it is certainly among the worst n00bs in recent history. :(

man, seriously, go to hell

Do you have any other come backs? Because I swear I saw that same exact one in another thread =\

yes I have, I�m like that bird phoenix

Be sure to take pictures of yourself burning. I'd pay money to see that.

you seem to be in a bad day, come on drop yourself to a hole and find hell by yourself

As I said before, either english is your 15th language or you're severely retarded.

you seem to be in a bad day, come on drop yourself to a hole and find hell by yourself


Let me fathom this statement.

"You seem to be having a bad day, therefore you should dig yourself a hole and find hell on your own."

Conclusion of thread so far: Use the Slots of Doom at your own risk.

After FF7 to use Cait Sith again, I find the Slots to be a lot more interesting than any of the other characters limit breaks.


As I said before, either english is your 15th language or you're severely retarded.

Can I vote on the second option?

For once, I agree with Prak.

Let me fathom this statement.

"You seem to be having a bad day, therefore you should dig yourself a hole and find hell on your own."


Ohhhhh, I get it, thanks!

everybody that agree with prak must go to hell

Why must you shit up every single thread I've posted in? It's like your brain runs on a single rail and that rail says "make an ass of myself while trying unsuccessfully to harrass Prak."

both Balam and prak: stop it please. ;-;;

posted by prak
Why must you shit up every single thread I've posted in? It's like your brain runs on a single rail and that rail says "make an ass of myself while trying unsuccessfully to harrass Prak."

LOL

sorry, is just that cait sith makes a weapon look like a child, it takes the fun out of the game, when you are figthing a boss you expect a challence, not a one hit win

I get one-hit wins with other people's limit breaks anyway, and I can also do it with magic, because I level up my materia too much. Tell me, whence came the notion that FFVII offers a challenge at all?

Why must you shit up every single thread I've posted in? It's like your brain runs on a single rail and that rail says "make an ass of myself while trying unsuccessfully to harrass Prak."


prak, go to the ***********

I get one-hit wins with other people's limit breaks anyway, and I can also do it with magic, because I level up my materia too much. Tell me, whence came the notion that FFVII offers a challenge at all?

it has never been a challenge

it has never been a challenge

Well then, what's the point in your argument about the Instant Victory ruining the challenge of the game?

Well then, what's the point in your argument about the Instant Victory ruining the challenge of the game?

I can`t remember, I think there was no point

You said that the Instant Victory takes the fun out of it because you expect bosses to bring a challenge.

You said that the Instant Victory takes the fun out of it because you expect bosses to bring a challenge.

and what is the problem,

The problem is that the bosses aren't a challenge in the first place, so it couldn't possible take the fun out of it.

that is bad because they should be a challence, I think the challence is one of the reasons that the game has for playing,

That's it. I give up. He just doesn't understand what I'm trying to say.
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That's it. I give up. He just doesn't understand what I'm trying to say.
Help me Dr, Zaius!

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sorry man, I did not mean to hurt your feelings

You didn't; I'm just being weird.

You didn't; I'm just being weird.

And is that a bad thing? if you are just going to be weird use cait sith more often, and you will find the truth

To answer the question, yes, instant win works against the weapons. period. it does.

To answer the other question: if you think that's cheap then....*gasp* Don't use the slots.

To answer the question, yes, instant win works against the weapons. period. it does.

To answer the other question: if you think that's cheap then....*gasp* Don't use the slots.

I do not use cait sith, he has killed me two times, and in very good battles against bosses, that is why I hate him

I do not use cait sith, he has killed me two times, and in very good battles against bosses, that is why I hate him

But isn't it funny that your own attack backfired and killed you?

today I played ff7 and, what it happen? I lost because of that thing, now I hate him most than ever

Same here, but i wouldn't use his slots, to risky if u ask me, while instant victory is a very nice thing, the counterpart of that always hurts lol.

Besides, if u want victory get some cool materias and lv up your chars, watch them become stronger and stronger and enjoy your power :) that is my way to win

Besides, an instant win is boring, a good battle is always more challenging and gives me the chance to see how good i have become :)

If you love good battles why do you lv up chararacters instead of be weekr than your enemies and have to fight really to win not just smash down around you.

try it it makes fun

If you love good battles, then you don't play FFVII. Its battles fun and all, but the battles aren't all that challenging. Now why don't you both STFU?! Oh, and Balam, then don't use Cait Sith. Problem solved.

Well, I've never been fortunate enough to see many his instant-victory slot much. Once is all, and it was on some random enemy around Midgar I think. Although, Cait-Sith's slots are amazingly funny. Having toy soldiers attack Sephiroth is no mean feat.

with Caith sith i get the doom thing 3 of 10 times
never got it on sephiroth but i got it many times on the last jenova battle