Hguyu
07-30-2005, 09:05 PM
...Sephiroth jumps down and stabs Aeris in the heart...what happens next besides the battle...she does not BLEED.
What's the point of swords if there's no blood...the next final fantasies should have blood,gore,<maybe> sex and some implied themes...who's with me?!

lenneth
07-30-2005, 09:13 PM
:: SpOiLeRs ::

Hex Omega
07-30-2005, 09:36 PM
...Sephiroth jumps down and stabs Aeris in the heart...what happens next besides the battle...she does not BLEED.
What's the point of swords if there's no blood...the next final fantasies should have blood,gore,<maybe> sex and some implied themes...who's with me?!



Not me.Although the blood sounds like a good idea.As for the sex :erm:

CRUNCH BAR
07-30-2005, 09:40 PM
You want the next one to be rated Mature? Or even Adult Only? I think that would piss off alot of the younger fans of the series. Plus, wasn't X-2 enough, Rikku was practically naked! It's only a videogame!!

TK
07-30-2005, 09:45 PM
You post Final Fantasy threads in the Final Fantasy forum.

Also: I think that's a terrible idea and you should shut up.

Sleep
07-30-2005, 09:52 PM
You post Final Fantasy threads in the Final Fantasy forum.

Also: I think that's a terrible idea and you should shut up.

Venom
07-30-2005, 10:18 PM
You post Final Fantasy threads in the Final Fantasy forum.

Also: I think that's a terrible idea and you should shut up.
Indeed, that is a good idea.

Dotman12
07-30-2005, 10:33 PM
It wouldnt giv young guns a chance to play FF again

Zachron
07-31-2005, 12:18 AM
...Sephiroth jumps down and stabs Aeris in the heart...what happens next besides the battle...she does not BLEED.
What's the point of swords if there's no blood...the next final fantasies should have blood,gore,<maybe> sex and some implied themes...who's with me?!

::Major Spoiler::
































































Aeris didn't bleed because she was already starting to return to the planet and her body no longer had any blood. Sephiroth killed her in order to stop her spirit from returning to the planet in one piece. When people die in FF7 their spirits are demolished and shattered into millions of pieces, said pieces take a long time to reassemble, and for some, said reassembly never happens before different' pieces of the person's spirit energy become reincarnated into part of the spirit energies of different people or become crystalized into parts of different materia. Aeris was going to return to the planet in one piece, summon Holy to destroy Meteor before it was summoned, and rematerialize into flesh, but she knew that that was not going to be before she even attempted it... Still she tried, for she had faith and hope, and because of that faith she wasn't dispersed as much as she could have been, and becaues of that hope, she reassembled in time to summon Holy, so that she was able to destroy Meteor before Meteor destroyed the world. Though her body was destroyed, her spirit remained intact enough to perform her needed task.


























































































































::End Spoiler::

Hguyu
07-31-2005, 03:36 AM
Dang ur really DEEEEEEP on ffVII...!

DeathAwaitsYou
07-31-2005, 05:45 PM
if you want gore, you got loads of other games to consider...some thing like GTA.

Hguyu
07-31-2005, 06:49 PM
Sorry guys,all i want in final fantasy is blood

Prak
07-31-2005, 06:51 PM
Why don't you just go out and buy a bloodier game then? :(

Hguyu
07-31-2005, 06:58 PM
1 Question...when jenova escaped and killed everyone in shinras' place...why was there blood lined everywhere?

KREAYSHAWN
07-31-2005, 07:26 PM
I think that's a terrible idea and you should shut up.

Dotman12
07-31-2005, 08:21 PM
Oh yeah why was there blood??? BECAUSE SEPH HACKED EVERYBODY WITH HIS MASAMUNE.

Hguyu
07-31-2005, 08:23 PM
Yes I know but why was there no blood in the movie...confused producers

Dotman12
07-31-2005, 08:27 PM
Well u gotta point there.They just didnt think about it

Hguyu
07-31-2005, 08:29 PM
Finally,some appreciation for genious OR just plain common sense....

DeathAwaitsYou
07-31-2005, 08:53 PM
there was blood all over the walls, becuase jenova or sephiroth did something, and what cloud is seeing is what happened...now put yourself in Square's shoes, how would you show that a massacare happened? by sprayin blood...
now why not use blood when he killed aries, well its as chorns said before, the BBFC (in the UK) and whatever there is in the US will rate it 15+ or maybe even 18+...and then only adults will play it!!!

Hguyu
07-31-2005, 08:56 PM
Hmm...knowledge,this is why we post,to learn,Death...good thinking

DeathAwaitsYou
07-31-2005, 09:00 PM
thank u! :)

Zachron
08-01-2005, 12:38 AM
It showed blood when other people died, becuase when they died, they bled out. I don't recall any CG's showing that scene though. So there wasn't any need for blood in any of the CG's.

Desert Wolf
08-01-2005, 09:02 PM
Spoiler





































Wasnt sephiroth covered in blood at the end after you beat him one on one with cloud?

matt damon
08-02-2005, 01:26 AM
ok, here's a little thing to prove you all wrong.

in the original and japanese copies, Aeris DOES bleed when she gets stabbed. i know because my friend has a copy and showed me the scene.

stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Prak
08-02-2005, 11:22 PM
You haven't proved anyone wrong about anything, jackass. Proving what you're saying would require actually showing us some evidence, rather than just relying on your word.

matt damon
08-03-2005, 12:59 AM
yeah, i guess. but, i can't show you anything. i would if i could. why don't you get of your ass and try to find it yourself? try, i don't know, maybe downloading the video.

(by the way, that jackass remark really made me laugh.)

Prak
08-03-2005, 01:14 AM
I'm not gonna get off my ass to find out because it's not my responsibility to prove myself wrong. If you won't put in the legwork to prove your case, then you're doing nothing more than spreading unfounded rumors.

(I'm glad you're amused. :p )

jiujitsu
08-03-2005, 01:31 AM
Squall bleeds a lot in FFVIII when Seifer slashes him across the face.

Zachron
08-03-2005, 01:43 AM
yeah, i guess. but, i can't show you anything. i would if i could. why don't you get of your ass and try to find it yourself? try, i don't know, maybe downloading the video.

(by the way, that jackass remark really made me laugh.)

The one that's hosted on the internet, was one that had the blood edited into it. It was done because someone thought the video would be cooler if it had blood, or someone wanted to fabricate evidence to save face in some stupid internet argument. Some people will go that far. I'll believe it when I see it in an actual copy of the game, or when such material is released by Square Enix. Even if Square did put blood in the original, they probably edited it out for more of a poetic/symbolic reason than any sort of censorship reason. I mean there was shitloads of blood in Final Fantasy Tactics, and Squall bleed in CG in FFVIII, and there were even scenes outside of CG that showed blood. As for the time differences in between FFVII and FFVIII, it's doubtful the censors in Japan or America became that much less strict between the two games. If Aeris's blood was edited out of the Japanese version, then It was probably done for poetic/plot reasons. If they released so many that had the blood, they were probably recalled, or simply left in the field. But I don't believe it, because the first I heard of Aeris bleeding in the Japanese version, was more than 5 years after the game came out. There were lots of hacks, and hoaxes done concerning FFVII. If there was a version of FFVII that showed the blood, it was more likely a pirated version that was edited, because if it were done to appease the censors, then the version that had the blood would have never hit the shelves.

Hex Omega
08-03-2005, 02:22 AM
Final Fantasy is an RPG for younger gamers in general so they can't really put blood in it.Still it would be good for the future.Most young kids these days are exposed to violence so it doesn't really matter anymore.

DeathAwaitsYou
08-03-2005, 04:17 AM
Squall bleeds a lot in FFVIII when Seifer slashes him across the face.

Squall bleeds, thats fine!!! We are talking about MURDER, Sephiroth/Jenova KILLING Aries, NOT scaring her!

Vala
08-03-2005, 05:14 AM
I have read a theory that "can be used" to explain the lack of blood during the death of aeris

then name of the sword that sephiroth uses is the MASAMUNE
apparently in some real historic legends that particular sword was blood thirsty
there for draining its victims to a nice clean death

I bet the old japanese wives loved this sword upon its release, instead of cleaning blood out of the carpet after warlord husbands tromping through.

as for the shinra building maybe he didnt use the sword

in australia the FF 6-10 for playstation has always been M15+ as really they did include slight adult themes...but well abound for its story without overstepping the mark.

Desert Wolf
08-04-2005, 09:51 PM
I have read a theory that "can be used" to explain the lack of blood during the death of aeris

then name of the sword that sephiroth uses is the MASAMUNE
apparently in some real historic legends that particular sword was blood thirsty
there for draining its victims to a nice clean death

I bet the old japanese wives loved this sword upon its release, instead of cleaning blood out of the carpet after warlord husbands tromping through.

as for the shinra building maybe he didnt use the sword

in australia the FF 6-10 for playstation has always been M15+ as really they did include slight adult themes...but well abound for its story without overstepping the mark.

He did use the sword didnt he?I thought cloud said it was sephiroths sword and he was the only one who could use it,or something like that.

matt damon
08-04-2005, 10:10 PM
Squall bleeds, thats fine!!! We are talking about MURDER, Sephiroth/Jenova KILLING Aries, NOT scaring her!
you mean scarring, not scaring. the first is to leave a scar. the second is to frighten.

CRUNCH BAR
08-04-2005, 10:18 PM
Final Fantasy is an RPG for younger gamers in general so they can't really put blood in it.Still it would be good for the future.Most young kids these days are exposed to violence so it doesn't really matter anymore.
Final Fantasy is not an RPG for younger gamers, it's a game for everyone, including younger gamers, but not just for them.

Hex Omega
08-05-2005, 01:22 AM
Final Fantasy is not an RPG for younger gamers, it's a game for everyone, including younger gamers, but not just for them.


Younger gamers in general I said, not exclusivly younger gamers.It's linear nature makes FF appealing to younger gamers.

Shadow_Lurker
08-05-2005, 03:32 AM
What about FF8 intro?? i think FF7 ddnt have much in-game blood becuase it would look crappy flying out from a person, look at the model's i couldn't even begin to imagine blood spilling from a box model.

Vala
08-05-2005, 04:54 PM
He did use the sword didnt he?I thought cloud said it was sephiroths sword and he was the only one who could use it,or something like that.

What i am saying is in real world mythology(not videogames) sephiroths sword the Masamune has been fantasized about as being a blood thirsty sword or a blood drinking sword so alas when aeris dies there was no blood!
As for in the shinra building sephiroth may just have used materia magic to shed the soldiers guts and gore around as we didnt actualy see him slash them.

Desert Wolf
08-06-2005, 10:25 PM
What i am saying is in real world mythology(not videogames) sephiroths sword the Masamune has been fantasized about as being a blood thirsty sword or a blood drinking sword so alas when aeris dies there was no blood!
As for in the shinra building sephiroth may just have used materia magic to shed the soldiers guts and gore around as we didnt actualy see him slash them.

Where do you get all this stuff!?! :) I think that they couldnt really have put in blood cause the graphics arent great.Mabey(WTF.....cant spell :(. ) if the rumours about a remake are true they could put in blood...

OrgaSm
08-07-2005, 02:30 AM

Gast
08-07-2005, 08:13 PM
She obviously didn't bleed because she is just a stuffed animal like Cait Sith. Duh.


Why don't you just go out and buy a bloodier game then? :(

Like Manhunt.

Zachron
08-07-2005, 08:40 PM
What i am saying is in real world mythology(not videogames) sephiroths sword the Masamune has been fantasized about as being a blood thirsty sword or a blood drinking sword so alas when aeris dies there was no blood!
As for in the shinra building sephiroth may just have used materia magic to shed the soldiers guts and gore around as we didnt actualy see him slash them.

I don't know about the time when he killed Aeris, but when he was in the shinra building, and the sword he had in the flashback where Cloud and Sephiroth dueled, Sephiroth had the Murasame, not the Masamune

Hguyu
08-08-2005, 09:41 PM
Theoretically,Enix was only trying to make money...because if the game is mature then child consumers (THE MAJORITY) would be cut off,thereby cutting off profits... simple economics

Prak
08-09-2005, 01:39 AM
You think children account for the majority of their consumers? You're way off base. Children have no disposable income, so young adults are a much more lucrative demographic. Right now, the average age of video game players is about 29.

Hex Omega
08-09-2005, 01:42 AM
29?That old?Well that's not old but that surprises me.

Maggie Kipling
08-09-2005, 01:52 AM
I for one plan to be gaming at 29! I think as long as you've got an imagination it doesn't matter how old you are, you'll always enjoy a good game!

Hex Omega
08-09-2005, 01:54 AM
Yup, thats what I think, i'm just a bit surprised at that.At 29 most people are working etc and don't have the time.

Hguyu
08-09-2005, 02:22 AM
29!!!Impossible...but true...'cos I know for sure that I would or/and might be playing games when I'm alot older...especially gory ones

Hex Omega
08-09-2005, 02:27 AM
In an ideal world i'd be playing games until I was 69.Still, what with debts to pay I can't see how i'll be playing games at 29.But if Prak says it, then it's probally true, he's right about most things.

Hguyu
08-09-2005, 02:56 AM
This post was simple...would any of y'all like gory fantasies...not would ur sorry asses be playing games at 70...I'm looking forward to ffXII..........being gory..hahahahahha!

Hex Omega
08-09-2005, 02:58 AM
Yeah, but threads sometimes trail off tangent, live with it.

matt damon
08-10-2005, 01:04 AM
29!!!Impossible...but true...'cos I know for sure that I would or/and might be playing games when I'm alot older...especially gory ones
what is your obsession over gory things? is that your fetish or something?! god, if you want gory games, play resident evil or silent hill or something else like that.

DAMN!...................

Hguyu
08-10-2005, 04:18 AM
I'm not really like that,this thread shows me the wild side but contains some truth elements...

DeathAwaitsYou
08-11-2005, 12:43 AM
Some people might say "well, because the graphics was shite back in 1997, they didn't bother with blood". Here is my counter attack, it contains FFX-2 SPOILERS:





There are scenes that show Tidus and Yuna / Shyuin and Lenne getting shot by Vegnagun gaurds, and I ask where is the blood? Again Squre didn't do blood in a DEATH scene, because its NOT an element of Final Fantasy.

matt damon
08-11-2005, 12:59 AM
wow, good post. no one ever thought of that. that's true. i think blood would sort of take away from the...........final fantasy-ness of it. like, when they got shot, it would have taken away like, the romance and sadness from the video

Hguyu
08-11-2005, 01:11 AM
No it would have added to it...if a noob to X-2 walks in he'll think they were making out...but blood and tears...phew...we need it

Prak
08-11-2005, 01:15 AM
You are one sick bastard, Hguyu. Your gene pool should be drained, scrubbed, sanitized, filled in with cement, dug up, launched into space amidst a cargo of rat droppings, and blown up by a nuke when it passes Pluto.

Hguyu
08-11-2005, 01:35 AM
Nuke doesn't quite cut it bitch...intra-moleclular disintergrator-compressor thing should completely make you a nothingness

Hex Omega
08-11-2005, 05:32 AM
You are one sick bastard, Hguyu. Your gene pool should be drained, scrubbed, sanitized, filled in with cement, dug up, launched into space amidst a cargo of rat droppings, and blown up by a nuke when it passes Pluto.

:laugh:

Hguyu
08-11-2005, 05:45 AM
Ok,what funny bitch...u want your own ego drained

Vala
08-11-2005, 06:20 AM
I don't know about the time when he killed Aeris, but when he was in the shinra building, and the sword he had in the flashback where Cloud and Sephiroth dueled, Sephiroth had the Murasame, not the Masamune


true... i always get those mixed up
sorry everyone

Desert Wolf
08-15-2005, 07:39 PM
Ok,what funny bitch...u want your own ego drained
:laugh:

Swedish Fish
08-30-2005, 12:51 AM
FFX-2 has the skin that you want. Other FFs were popular because of the rich characters, great plots, original magic system, challenging bosses, and the cool weapons. They had great music in general too.

DeathAwaitsYou
08-30-2005, 04:54 PM
FFX-2 has the skin that you want. Other FFs were popular because of the rich characters, great plots, original magic system, challenging bosses, and the cool weapons. They had great music in general too.


Whats that got to do with gory FFs?

quintorro
08-30-2005, 05:40 PM
Bloody Fantasy? Gory Fantasy!? Sexy Fantasy!?! I don't think so...
...shouldn't have more blood and etc. than it already does unless nessesary.

Swedish Fish
09-01-2005, 02:33 AM
Whats that got to do with gory FFs?
Ya don't need no blood! Buy GTA for blood! Geez.

Sir Dyne
09-03-2005, 11:20 PM
ok, here's a little thing to prove you all wrong.

in the original and japanese copies, Aeris DOES bleed when she gets stabbed. i know because my friend has a copy and showed me the scene.

stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

this therefore slips this thread into obscurity

Denny
09-03-2005, 11:22 PM
I for one plan to be gaming at 29!

I plan to game till i die an when i`m an old out of date pornstar.

Sir Dyne
09-03-2005, 11:38 PM
lol good luck with ur dream

Huntress Krystle
09-04-2005, 06:02 PM
You post Final Fantasy threads in the Final Fantasy forum.

Also: I think that's a terrible idea and you should shut up.

You are one sick bastard, Hguyu. Your gene pool should be drained, scrubbed, sanitized, filled in with cement, dug up, launched into space amidst a cargo of rat droppings, and blown up by a nuke when it passes Pluto.

Couldn't agree with you guys more. ^^