As iv� gotten older i have recently been pissed off about the childish image FFVII has got. I still like it but not as much as i used to due to the entire fanboy image that has surrounded it. Why has FFVII gotten these kind of fans??

Also, this has recently gotten me pissed off because apparantly "My game doesn`t live up to FFVII expectations" to some people...:/. Although, i have to say, that not all FFVII fans are fanboys of course but many are. And yes, i expect Prak to rip them apart.....

I like Final Fantasy 7, but not the extent of being such a crazed fantatic. Because when you look at it the game as a lot of weak aspects to it, that doesnt make it great. I really dont have a favorite FF and am still saving up money to buy all the older FF's at once.

But I do understand where you are coming from. I dont like the whole image people have given FF7 as this 'holy game'. and how every FF is nothing compared to it.

I expect Prak to come by, and tear everyone who defends FF7 to bits.

Rabid FF7 Fans.

I like Final Fantasy 7, but not the extent of being such a crazed fantatic. Because when you look at it the game as a lot of weak aspects to it, that doesnt make it great. I really dont have a favorite FF and am still saving up money to buy all the older FF's at once.

But I do understand where you are coming from. I dont like the whole image people have given FF7 as this 'holy game'. and how every FF is nothing compared to it.

I expect Prak to come by, and tear everyone who defends FF7 to bits.

But recently, i searched for my game on google FFVII:THE DARK CLOUD, some forums liked it (especially the german one :/), but some others just shot it down stright away saying that there will NEVER be a worthy FFVII sequel......idiots..

Its true that there are alot of fanboys, and alot of them are just "Going with the flow" but as for your game its true, you used rpgmaker �� use rpgtoolkit and come to the better side, we serve peanut butter sandwiches ^^.

But recently, i searched for my game on google FFVII:THE DARK CLOUD, some forums liked it (especially the german one :/), but some others just shot it down stright away saying that there will NEVER be a worthy FFVII sequel......idiots..

Rabid, Rabid fans. Will do anything to prove to the world that FF7 rules over all.

Rabid, Rabid fans. Will do anything to prove to the world that FF7 rules over all.

I`m realy just getting sick of the die hard fans.
Where`s Prak when you need him?:/

I`m realy just getting sick of the die hard fans.
Where`s Prak when you need him?:/

Hes probably destroying FF7 fans, with his all-mighty power.

FF7 fans remind me of Inuyasha fans, they are both very rabid and easy to defend what they hold dearest. Stay still while near one, and you wont get hurt.

Where`s Prak when you need him?:/

Why should I have anything to say about this? Seems to me that it'd just be beating a dead horse.

Why should I have anything to say about this? Seems to me that it'd just be beating a dead horse.

Sometimes beating a dead horse can be fun.

Yeah I agree with your rant Dirge.FFVII is not the ultimate RPG all these idiots seem to think.I could think of quite a few better RPG's.Zelda and Diablo come to mind.

Diablo....FFVII had some depth to the charcters at least the most you get in diablo if your lucky is slightly different dialogue...still wouldn't go as far as to say its the best FF.

i'm a fan of FFVII, but not to the point of insanity. it kinda pisses me off when ppyl bad-mouth it, though

Maybe so Shadow Lurker.But Diablo has incredible depth.If bastards didnt hack your account and take all your decent items, you could get months and months of gameplay out of Diablo.It might lack dialouge and look wretched but it has substance.

There are a lot more good RPG's than FFVII.

Damn FFVII fanboys!!!

Like I said Zelda and Diablo I/II come to mind.Several more too.FFVII paved the way for the RPG but it's been surpassed many times.Still one of my favourite games though.

And let me just say, i`m knocking the hardcore fans.......not the game itself.

I've nothing against people who say FF7 is the best and they can back it up.Its the idiots thats unconditionally(spelling)say 'FF7 is the best RPG ever' and say fuck-all else that annoy me.Nothing but sheep, best way to describe them.

Well, I am definetly not a crazy fanatic when it comes to FFVII, but I like it cuz it has a cool message, and it's my fav game, can't go against it, lol.

^_^

Oh Dirge i saw ur game wasnt bad.Clicked on the link is it free to download cuz i wanna check it out.i like Ff7 but not up to the point of puttin a tatoo on my body,like Monk said,its also my fave game to.Its an rpg with unbeleivable depth and a fantastic story line cant go against it.

It paved the way for the RPG but I dont think its the best ever.Certainly in the Top 5 though.

I'm FF VII fan, but the rumours and the revivals of the game, and the sequels, leave the game as it ended, and the aeris can live, and the hardcore fans, and fanboys geez, the game wasn't THAT good, i like the game but seriously this things ruined my love for the game

I'm FF VII fan, but the rumours and the revivals of the game, and the sequels, leave the game as it ended, and the aeris can live, and the hardcore fans, and fanboys geez, the game wasn't THAT good, i like the game but seriously this things ruined my love for the game


My opinion precisely.

I'm FF VII fan, but the rumours and the revivals of the game, and the sequels, leave the game as it ended, and the aeris can live, and the hardcore fans, and fanboys geez, the game wasn't THAT good, i like the game but seriously this things ruined my love for the game

Also, the constant discussions now with the relationship with Cloud and Tifa and Aerith and the such. Ill admit, I did participate in the discussions, but never did I go into this full blow by blow detail on how the relationships impacted the characters. Actually, any discussion now that deals with that topic just annoys me, I dealt with it to much before.

But I agree with you, too many things are commercializing the game and its ruining my love for it. I like FF7 and I did enjoy playing it, but the fans and the obsessions over the characters is way to much for me.

Yup,thats pretty much it in nutshell.

It paved the way for the RPG

Paved the way for millions of kids who never heard about FF before. It didn't pave the way for the RPG.

Yes that's a fair point.My scenario exactly with FF.Never heard of it before FF7 and it got me intrested in RPG's.

I'm personally offended that you guys left me out of the equation. Prak isn't the only one who tears apart the game, you know.

So, indulge us and tear it apart then.

Why should I have anything to say about this? Seems to me that it'd just be beating a dead horse.

Fair enough.

You just wanted to be mentioned then? :p

FF7 was my first Final Fantasy and got me into the series.Its one of my favourite games still.I think its the best RPG game out of the ones I played,cause you cant really say its the best without playing the rest.
(rhyme) :)

I think its the best RPG game out of the ones I played,cause you cant really say its the best without playing the rest.
(rhyme) :)
...You do realize this statement makes no sense?

FF7 RULZ DA WRLD LOLZ.

FF7 RULZ DA WRLD LOLZ.


Wow, what a massive contribution.

IT IS MAN FF7 SI TEH R0X33RS

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Yes that's a fair point.My scenario exactly with FF.Never heard of it before FF7 and it got me intrested in RPG's.

Heh... I was introduced to the series by FFI!!!

Why should I have anything to say about this? Seems to me that it'd just be beating a dead horse.

Well, actually it'd be more like beating a horse that just won't die despite internal bleeding, ruptured organs, a cranial hemmorage, and a few dozen broken bones. Prak's pretty good at lashing the FFVII franchise, but fans keep it alive somehow.


I'm personally offended that you guys left me out of the equation. Prak isn't the only one who tears apart the game, you know.
*shrugs* I have nothing to say. I haven't been here in a few days.

I just noticed that FFXII seems to be using a battle system that sounds very similar to Star Ocean's. Controlling one character in a real-time battle while leaving the others up to AI? Sounds like Star Ocean. Still, I do rather like the FFX system the most. Anyway some of the fanboys and fangirls of any given game or franchise are disgusting. Look at Star Trek. Perfectly good series. Attracts the sluggish computer cave people of the world.

Heh... I was introduced to the series by FFI!!!


To each his own they say.

Look at Star Trek. Perfectly good series. Attracts the sluggish computer cave people of the world.

Y'know, I love Star Trek. But even i wouldn't go so far as to say it's a good series. Most of it is self-indugent, with little or no character development. In fact, the only series to get the character development right is Star Trek: Voyager, and everyone hated it.

As for Final Fantasy VII, I don't get the fanboy-ness either. I'm one of the PlayStation generation, so FF7 introduced me to RPGs - but honestly, it's 2005. We're on the cusp of the next generation. We're surrounded by games like Final Fantasy X, Jade Empire, and World of Warcraft.

Let go of the past already - it's good, but it's no longer the best.

Final fantasy 7 was the first ff game that i bought and i thought it was really good at the time, but now I can see that its not the greatest thing in the world as it is so outdated now.

It may be outdated in graphics but that's not the only thing that make's a great game, the fact that FF7 was the first FF game I played does give me a slightly bias view towards it, but i believe it remains the best FF to date, simply because it's got the best storyline and sidequests. Though that is simply my opinion ^^

Y'know, I love Star Trek. But even i wouldn't go so far as to say it's a good series. Most of it is self-indugent, with little or no character development. In fact, the only series to get the character development right is Star Trek: Voyager, and everyone hated it.


I strongly disagree with most of that, but I'm sure there's a much better place to argue about it.

Y'know, I love Star Trek. But even i wouldn't go so far as to say it's a good series. Most of it is self-indugent, with little or no character development. In fact, the only series to get the character development right is Star Trek: Voyager, and everyone hated it.

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Deep Space Nine!!!! i say

IT IS MAN FF7 SI TEH R0X33RS


LYKE DAT IS SOO FUNNY LOLZZ

FF7 was the first RPG I ever played and it def got me into that genre. I just didn't stick to the idea that "FF7 FOR LIFE!!! NOTHING ELSE COMPARES TO IT!!"

I mean I like Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy 9, Suikoden 2, and a lot more games much more than Final Fantasy 7. But I liked that it was a strong introduction to RPGs to a 9 year old (I think that's how old I was when I got the game).

Sounds about right for me too.I first played it in 1997 so i'd would have been 11-12.

Well actually first RPG for me was Secret of Mana which is excellent and kinda grew up watching my older bro play FF7, I've played FF1-9 including all the spin-offs such as Mystic quest, so i really can't say that its the best.

I thought that side quests in FF9 were quite challenging, i found breeding chocobos the only hard bit to be honest which got quite repetitive and boring, my point bieng that Fanboys\girls have a certain state of mind when there "Masterpiece" is attacked, that is avoid all commonsense and throw out tired and old points, that have been shot down and pray the other person gives in, so as has been stated its like beating a horse that just won't die despite internal bleeding, ruptured organs, a cranial hemmorage, and a few dozen broken bones.

Well actually first RPG for me was Secret of Mana which is excellent and kinda grew up watching my older bro play FF7, I've played FF1-9 including all the spin-offs such as Mystic quest, so i really can't say that its the best.

I thought that side quests in FF9 were quite challenging, i found breeding chocobos the only hard bit to be honest which got quite repetitive and boring, my point bieng that Fanboys\girls have a certain state of mind when there "Masterpiece" is attacked, that is avoid all commonsense and throw out tired and old points, that have been shot down and pray the other person gives in, so as has been stated its like beating a horse that just won't die despite internal bleeding, ruptured organs, a cranial hemmorage, and a few dozen broken bones.

Well actually first RPG for me was Secret of Mana which is excellent and kinda grew up watching my older bro play FF7, I've played FF1-9 including all the spin-offs such as Mystic quest, so i really can't say that its the best.

I thought that side quests in FF9 were quite challenging, i found breeding chocobos the only hard bit to be honest which got quite repetitive and boring, my point bieng that Fanboys\girls have a certain state of mind when there "Masterpiece" is attacked, that is avoid all commonsense and throw out tired and old points, that have been shot down and pray the other person gives in, so as has been stated its like beating a horse that just won't die despite internal bleeding, ruptured organs, a cranial hemmorage, and a few dozen broken bones.

sorry i had lagg, need a way to delete posts.

Nice quadruple post there.

i agree with dirge on this thats why ff8 is heading towards my favourite ff game...how ever i still think ff7 is a kickass game

i agree with dirge on this thats why ff8 is heading towards my favourite ff game...how ever i still think ff7 is a kickass game

But i`m a little in FF9s favour.