In the sprit of the release of Star Wars Episode 3, and the mourning of the death of Enterprise. I decided to hold a poll to see which is more popular, Star Wars, or Star Trek.

Rabid fanbase? Both have em.
Inconsistent storylines? Both have em.
Morons in charge of making them? Berman and Lucas are both fucktards.

Seems pretty equal to me.

lmao, that the best explination I've heard about both of them.

more like ur mom is.

indeed.



more like star wartrek

more like ur mom is.


This is the Lord Himself's step-father, the Rider of the Pale Horse whose name is Death, I have to say that is the stupidest and worst insult I have ever heard or read. My wife is not an explanation, she is The Mother Of Abominations and makes a nice spaghetti sauce.

Besides, anyone who has seen these series knows that Jean-Luc Picard is the Dark Side of James T. Kirk, and that Spock and Yoda are related.

Death, also known as Shit Happens

ok then UR mom


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This is the Lord Himself's step-father, the Rider of the Pale Horse whose name is Death, I have to say that is the stupidest and worst insult I have ever heard or read. My wife is not an explanation, she is The Mother Of Abominations and makes a nice spaghetti sauce.

Besides, anyone who has seen these series knows that Jean-Luc Picard is the Dark Side of James T. Kirk, and that Spock and Yoda are related.

Death, also known as Shit Happens
more like ur mom

Well, seen as how Star Trek is the worst idea ever concieved, written and put onto the screens, both small and large, it appears as if it is defeated before it makes it to the ring.

The your mom jokes are soooo cliche.... :-(

You know what else is cliche? ur mom!

Well you know what Prak? UR MOM!!!!

ur mom

nice avatar. looks like ur mom.

Star wars all the way, Star Trek sucks(IMO, I find it very boring).

Fuck them both! Fuck them both up their pasty pimply asses!

Both started out good and were raped into oblivion when people tried to continue them after they should have just ended. There's no right answer here.

Both started out good and were raped into oblivion when people tried to continue them after they should have just ended. There's no right answer here.


Rabid fanbase? Both have em.
Inconsistent storylines? Both have em.
Morons in charge of making them? Berman and Lucas are both fucktards.

Seems pretty equal to me.

these pretty much sum up my feelings for both Star Wars and Trek. Though Enterprise has thrown up some pretty good ( and dark) ideas

Wasn't there a similar thread like this done awhile ago?

Anywayz, Star Wars and Star Trek have their good and bad points. At this point in time I can't fuckin think of any.

Wasn't there a similar thread like this done awhile ago?

Anywayz, Star Wars and Star Trek have their good and bad points. At this point in time I can't fuckin think of any.

Wokkies??

ur mom

ur mom

Ewoks?

The Borg...one of the baddest ass villians ever.

But then again, Darth Vader, another bad ass.

I'll continue the trend and say I don't know.

Starwars, hands down. Come on now, Starwars has Ewoks. I dont see Startrek with Ewoks. Do you? Becuase I dont. Continuing improper sentence.

Star Wars may have ewoks, but it seems to me that most people consider that to be an argument for Star Trek's superiority.

WORF

The Borg...one of the baddest ass villians ever.

But then again, Darth Vader, another bad ass.

I'll continue the trend and say I don't know.

Vader was and still is the ultimate badass. What a truly great villian.

star wars would be owned by star trek

oh and did you know that it wasnt luke skywalker who blew up the deathstar
infact it was sean juc picard he thought it was a borg sphere

Way to revive a TWO-year-old thread, you snake. >O

Way to revive a TWO-year-old thread, you snake. >O

i didnt know that it was a two year old topic
are you a star trek supporter ?

oh wait you are

I LOVE STAR WARS MORE THAN ANYTHING. Seriously, I'm a huge fan. <3

I liked Star Wars when I was like 8-10 I guess. Since then it seems to have lost its appeal somewhat.

Never really watched enough of Star Trek to comment on it.

I LOVE STAR WARS MORE THAN ANYTHING. Seriously, I'm a huge fan. <3

i prefer star trek

i'm so freakin crap.

Star Trek

Star Whores is so much better.

They goofed it with the prequals though. Star Trek has yet to fumble + it's more heady. YOU MUST RELENT, MY OPINION IS PERFECT, MY LOGIC UNDENIABLE!

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i prefer star trek

i'm so freakin crap.

i guess im freakin crap as well too.

I's a Star Wars fan

Can still appreciate Trek though

Star Trek is great and all but Star Wars is much better. The entire universe is more interesting and just plain fun, sir!.

I say it has more flair, but that flair to others may be seen as corny pretentious BS, so hey. All relative to personal taste.

Does Star Trek have it's on WIKI Universe? I think not.

STAR WARS WIKIPEDIA. (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page)

Honestly I think it's silly that they get compared so much.

Seaquest has a lot more in common with Star Trek than Star Wars does, imo. ; ;

I love the original trilogy and I love original trek + tng.

Good call on Seaquest Ndi

I guess the popularity levels and just the "Star" title alone is why they get compared so much. I think it's silly that people have to choose one or the other. Can't you just like both? I have my favorite and all, but I still like both you know?

Star Wars is the better, to me. I love the movies of this serie, the soundtracks, the actors, the games, etc ...

I like star wars alot more. there's R2D2 and better games.

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Yah, I sat n' thought about it and I can't realy choose between the 2 either. I loved Star Wars so much as a kid I used to pen a bath towel around my neck like a cape and clash with my brother til' my plastic lightsaber (sound included) broke to pieces. As far as Star Trek, it goes strong because of good writters and smart fans. You can't beat that by any standard, but i'm never the one who makes threads and debates for comparison. I love Sci - Fi and leave it at that. We are the few, the prowd, THE GENIUSES.

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WINS! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxhrPaaCA4

Case closed.

Does Star Trek have it's on WIKI Universe? I think not.

STAR WARS WIKIPEDIA. (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page)
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Main_Page

Also, this is not a good question to ask someone who still have memory scars from dealing with starwars-fanatic-cum-trolls at TVTome (Agent stands as my witness). Having tired of fending off those fanatics who intend on turning my guide into a star-wars crossover fanfiction page, and having actually enjoyed a bit of trekking myself, the answer is Star Trek.

Good day.

Star Wars because its awesomer.

Hmm, if we're just talking about each of the movies, probably Star Wars.

However I do have a soft spot for the old Captain Kirk, Next Generation and Voyager TV episodes - though for some reason I couldn't get into Enterprise.

though for some reason I couldn't get into Enterprise.Yeah, know what you mean.

like both.
Star Trek - 'cause I've always been curious to what's out there in the universe.

and

Star Wars - 'cause of Speederbikes and now Sandspeeders.

Star wars, because their games pwn, jedi academy was great.

Star Wars, because I like the holy universe more and the Jedi with their power are great.

Did anyone do a Star Trek an' Star Wars crossover fanfic once?

Footage of the upcoming CGI Clone Wars cartoon is online now

Star Trek is too random. For example: one time, Kirk's Enterprise was attacked by a spinning, rainbow-colored cube that came out of nowhere. Seriously. That's more like something you'd expect in Totally Spies or Atomic Betty.
Oh, and in TNG, there's a fag named "Q."

In Star Wars, Dengar can dodge laser blasts and Princess Leia wears that funky bikini-like thing in Return of the Jedi. In Star Trek V, Uhura tries to show-off some leg but they look like a man's legs - shaved.

I watched too many episodes of TOS and TNG, not too mention every Star Trek Movie, sadly. *LOLz

The only thing I like about Star Trek is the starships. They roxs0rds.
The only thing I like about Star Wars is, well, everything in general, for the most part.

Hey, Q was the shit, and fuck anyone who says otherwise.

Why, is he your role-model? =3

ive said it once and ill say it again :-P


star wars would be owned by star trek

oh and did you know that it wasnt luke skywalker who blew up the deathstar
infact it was sean juc picard he thought it was a borg sphere

Hey, Q was the shit, and fuck anyone who says otherwise.
Indeed !

star wars would be owned by star trek

You said it before. You said it again. And it's still dead wrong.

You said it before. You said it again. And it's still dead wrong.

LOL

Why, is he your role-model? =3

Only the inferior need role models, to draw strength from anothers guidance is proof of utter dependance. I'm my own role model, as nobody is perfect.

I'm reviving this thread because STAR TREK IS AWESOME!

I got into Star Wars when I was a kid, before Star Trek. At first, I was only interested in both because of the toys, and now I enjoy Star Trek because of the characters and the stories. Star Wars still only interests me on a design level. The plots and dialogue are utterly atrocious. I still can't see how anyone can rank the original 3 as some of the best in film history. I cannot stand that camp.

However, the new Star Trek was utter crap. They turned Trek into Star Wars: all flash, no substance. I despise Kurtzman and Orci.

No. The last post in this thread was back in 2007... Don't revive dead threads. Check the date of the last post before posting. If it's a topic you'd like to discuss, then create a new thread.

Oh, really? Mind explaining why?

Considering that the last post was in 2007, this was a dead thread til you revived it. Thread necromancy, or a 'Necro bump', is frowned upon (though not as stringently enforced here as it is on other forum). "Necroposting" (also called "necrobumping" or "gravedigging"), occurs when a forum thread that has been inactive for a long time, typically years, is bumped by a reader, usually in response to what he inadvertently believes to be an ongoing discussion, perhaps coming from a web search rather than from within the forum.

Rule of thumb, if a thread isn't on the first page, then it's generally accepted as a dead thread.

I knew that it was a dead thread when I posted, by why is there a rule against it? Surely if someone wants to discuss a topic, even if it has been talked about in a few years, they should be free to? Why would one have to start a new thread when one already exists?

Does it put a strain on the servers or something?

Just a unwritten rule that's all. If a thread is dead, there's a reason. Either lack of interest, or the OP made their point and moved on.

Okay. Fair enough.

GET IN THE CHOPER!


I, Jedi = awesome book!

I read several of the Star Trek books about Kirk's (mis)adventures when I was young.
I don't remember squat except that I had some fun, lol.
The Star Trek TV series I got bored of after a while (NG, OS?, D9, Voyager). Actually, I'm just sick of them. I like Star Wars better. Some of those books I had more fun reading. Note that I said like, not love. I'm inclined to echo this post (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f76/star-wars-vs-star-trek-22741/#post438439) in the end for the sake of bashing them both.

I don't remember if I read I, Jedi. I've been told its good, along with the Thrawn trilogy. Seems the only one I remember now is Shadows of the Empire, probably also because of the "meh" N64 title that came from it.
I do own a handful of books, but I'm too lazy to reread them. =p

I liked the comics when I was younger (mainly the ones drawn by Cam Kennedy), but I've tried to read them recently, and it's nearly impossible to get through a page. The dialogue is just as bad as Lucas', and unfortunately, lacks the presence of Harrison Ford, Natalie Portman, and Ewan McGregor.

Seeing as how this thread is showing signs of life again... might as well add to the conversation.

I used to like the Star Wars comics... ones set between A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back (I like this for the same reasons as Dante stated in Kevin Smith's movie Clerks), but after the movies and novels (Timothy Zahn's trilogy: Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising and The Last Command were brilliant)... I grew sick of them. All the stuff about Luke and Co. just bored me to tears.

I did thorougly enjoy the 'Tales of the Jedi' series (detailed the events of the Sith War led by former Jedi turned Dark Lord of the Sith, Exar Kun (and first Jedi/Sith to wield a double bladed lightsaber... as he struck down his master, Vodo Siorsk Bass with it in front of the entire Jedi Council on Coruscant...)) as well as the Knights of the Old Republic comic series (set prior to Revan and Malak leading Jedi and the Republic against the Mandalorians, as detailed in the game made by BioWare). I'm looking into Star Wars Knight Errant atm... that looks... promising.

Star Wars: Legacy was/is pretty good.

Legacy was a 'meh' experience for me... Only part of Legacy I liked was the crossover "Vector". Spanning over 4,000 years just that one story arc, with Celeste Morne being the only character to appear in the whole thing...

Did explain how the Rakghouls were created... Not surprised really.

Gentle Reader (or viewer),
You take them at their own level.
Star Trek was a western transplanted into space.
Star Wars was a retelling of the basic adventure story (Every mythology from Gilgamesh to Urban Legends tossed into a blender).
Nod politely and like them as such or not.
Incidentally, I like them both for what they are and what they are not.
Borrowing the catchphrase from Mounds and Almond Joy, "Sometimes you feel like a nut."

Star Trek was a western transplanted into space.

Firefly was a western transplanted into space, NOT Star Trek.

Check the tropes, man, check the tropes.
Late nineteenth or early twentieth century western, not 1960s movie western.

Firefly was a western transplanted into space, NOT Star Trek.
Firefly WAS a western in space. Star Trek was a western adapted for space - just like WickerChairs said earlier. Even according to Gene Roddenberry Star Trek is "a wagon train to the stars".

Maybe for The Original Series, but not really for The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine or Voyager.

Star Wars was a western in space.

Star Trek wins simply because it allows for time travel. Win.

Star Wars...

Both have its strengths and weaknesses.

But for me it is Star Trek all the way. I love Empire and Jedi - but the first half of 'A New Hope' is unbearable with Luke as the lead. Thankfully Ben and Han meet-up and the movie gains characters you can actually root and care for. And outside of a couple scenes from the New Trilogy and animated series, there isn't much that has grabbed my attention.And as I grow older the shine the series has began to lose its luster.

Star Trek on the other hand...
As I get older I seem to find more things to love. I used to hate The Original Series, but now I can see beyond the silly special effects and see the great writing and storytelling that was presented. As iconic as Luke, Leia, Han and Chewie are; they pale in comparison to Kirk, Spock, Sisko, Riker, Picard and O'Brien.

And although Star Wars do indeed click Star Trek's but on the movie side - the hours and hours of great television that Star Trek has provided over the years is astounding: Let That Be Your Last Battlefield (TOS), The City on the Edge of Forever (TOS), Darmok (TNG), The Best of Both Worlds(TNG), Chain of Command [THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!!!](TNG), Tapestry (TNG), The Defector (TNG), Frame of Mind (TNG), Paradise (DS9), Whispers (DS9), The Search (DS9), Explorers (DS9), The Ship (DS9), For the Uniform (DS9), In the Pale Moonlight (DS9), Valiant (DS9), Year of Hell (VOY), Blink of an Eye (VOY) to name a few.

Meh. In the long run - why choose one over the other. Have both and take what you like the most from each.

I still like both but being older and older my interest gradually shifted from the middle to the Star Trek side.

Star Wars all the way to me.

Star Trek wins for me...sure the were a few duds in there but that's how I feel about all three of the Star Wars prequels, poorly executed.

Star Trek wins for me...sure the were a few duds in there but that's how I feel about all three of the Star Wars prequels, poorly executed.

George Lucas let a lot of people down with the prequel trilogy... and there's rumors that he wants to remake all 6 of the movies again. The fact he made the Star Wars The Force Unleashed games (both of them) canon, says a lot about his mental state... or lack thereof.

Firefly WAS a western in space. Star Trek was a western adapted for space - just like WickerChairs said earlier. Even according to Gene Roddenberry Star Trek is "a wagon train to the stars".
The phrase "Wagon Train to the Stars" is a misunderstanding. The reference was used during the pitch to NBC that was about the format; that is, that it would copy the television structure of the show "Wagon Train," in its emphasis on guest stars. In many important ways, this never happened. In any event, this is not to be interpreted as a basis for the content or origins of the show. The simpler origin for Star Trek was Forbidden Planet: The Series. Since that was in turn based on The Tempest, one can argue that it wasn't copying westerns, it was copying Shakespeare. (Although often not well, but hey, he's a tough act to follow.)
JonC

The original Star Trek series but with Jean-Luc Picard as the captain instead of James Tiberius Kirk or better yet in my perfect alternate universe reality hallucination, the Star Trek movie (2009) is actually the Star Trek TV series.

Star Wars all the way for me. Scale is huge, tech is awesome, and the capital ships are frightining.

Star Wars for because of the technology but I am also a fan of Star Trek for the same reason so I will bring my other favorite and take them both out Battlestar Galactica

There are pros and cons on both sides. So I'll vote for Space Above and Beyond 'cos it's pros all the way.

Q can beat everything. ;)

in my opinion i do like Star trek

Has to be Star Wars for me, although I do enjoy Star Trek as well. ^^

Star Wars

The original Star Trek TV series

How is this even a question? Everyone knows Star Wars is infinitely better, even with the two horrible sequels.

Q can beat everything. ;)

+1

I love both but

Star Trek

7 TV series and 13 movies.
It's just a bigger sandbox to play in.

Babylon 5 over everything.

I like both equally along with Battlestar Galatica DS9 and BAB5. I really like Star Trek Discovery the 1st season was awesome.

I like star wars better especially ep 4 5 6, the new is kind of meh but i still like it

Star Trek is interesting but Star Wars has a cinematic, mythic quality which elevates it above Star Trek, which tends to be more literal.

Star trek because I like the message about exploring new planets and establishing contact in a diplomatic way