Raenius
09-26-2018, 07:25 PM
(https://postimg.cc/TpMzhWgF)

My brothers, praise the music gods, as we have been blessed with the talents of Python Blue. A synthwave and general music enthusiast that happened to get all the files from the old synthesizer machines, the one and only Brad Fiedel used for his timeless masterpiece of a score.

Python Blue recreated a huge chunk of tracks from this masterpiece, I approached him about doing a full re-creation, wrote back and forth with him and he wanted to be kept out of this, but he didn�t mind downloading and combining it with the existing music.

And those of you that know me know that I pop up every once in a while and deliver something and here...I took Ruiz Burgos amazing alternate posters for T2 and remade it into cover and disc graphics.

So...why no link, once you scrolled down and did see my graphics?
Because it is currently not yet totally complete

Currently, on the 2 discs, there are stand in versions for "The War Against The Machines" and Tanker Chase, but Python Blue will remake both, but his scheduling may take him a while. But until then...there are plenty of tunes we NEVER heard clean.


(https://postimages.org/)

What you see here is my V2 approach, the V1 will appease more "classic" fans and it�s a WIP, but will be included in the full compressed file once it�s all complete:

(https://postimg.cc/68zgHjgx)

(https://postimg.cc/nMD8H1jq)

(https://postimg.cc/ZC81NKLR)

(https://postimg.cc/0z9h0RtC)

(https://postimg.cc/1V6bJ9hv)

LINK:
https://mega.nz/#!qyoSnKJB!qfSFsBW8_sfFNEQTMRkZVVY8L-pi_reUzJqOUGMyCts

DAKoftheOTA
09-26-2018, 07:31 PM
..........




:laugh:

Raenius
09-26-2018, 07:32 PM
..........




:laugh:

Meaning?

DAKoftheOTA
09-26-2018, 07:39 PM
Meaning?

Meaning this:

I don�t know you or know any of the things you�ve posted. I�ve never seen you before. But everyone here who knows me knows that this is my holy grail. And every time someone posts a �complete� version, it�s either awful DVD rips or even worse fan-made compilations. I�ve come to terms that this score is lost, gone forever. That being said, what is this? A re-creation? Because that�s the closest we�ll ever get to a complete. Now then, I�m sure you can understand how skeptical I am / how much I�m in denial at this.

Lockdown
09-26-2018, 07:44 PM
Interesting for sure.

DAKoftheOTA
09-26-2018, 07:45 PM
:this:

Raenius
09-26-2018, 07:45 PM
Meaning this:

I don’t know you or know any of the things you’ve posted. I’ve never seen you before. But everyone here who knows me knows that this is my holy grail. And every time someone posts a “complete” version, it’s either awful DVD rips or even worse fan-made compilations. I’ve come to terms that this score is lost, gone forever. That being said, what is this? A re-creation? Because that’s the closest we’ll ever get to a complete. Now then, I’m sure you can understand how skeptical I am / how much I’m in denial at this.

I understand and if you think this is YOUR holy grail?! I got a huge chunk of Hot Toys Terminators, so...if this is your grail, then you are in for a treat, buddy.
Yes, a good amount are recreations, I didn�t make it as clear in the main post, I just edited it.

What I wrote there is the real deal. 2 tracks are stand-ins. "Tanker Chase" is the none complete version and "War against the machines" is a hybrid of "Escape..." and "Trust me". Of course the real version needs to be without the steel drum, but otherwise it�s clean and on position.

This is no, I repeat NO ripped version. There are ZERO FX in there and in the credits you see which tracks ar recreated.

With this I just say: Download and enjoy. Please.

DAKoftheOTA
09-26-2018, 07:48 PM
Of course I’m going to listen to it. I’m extracting the archive as we speak. I’m going to be Buzz Killington and just expect it to not be good.

Rigby
09-26-2018, 07:56 PM
This being such an iconic score, all I have to say is thanks for uploading! I�m not an expert on the music as much as some people but this sounds extremely close to Brad Fiedel�s sound palette. Would be interested to hear from someone knowledgeable as to how it stacks up to the film versions.

Raenius
09-26-2018, 07:57 PM
Of course I’m going to listen to it. I’m extracting the archive as we speak. I’m going to be Buzz Killington and just expect it to not be good.

Then you approach things you look forward to the same way I do. I REALLY hope you enjoy. :)

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This being such an iconic score, all I have to say is thanks for uploading! I’m not an expert on the music as much as some people but this sounds extremely close to Brad Fiedel’s sound palette. Would be interested to hear from someone knowledgeable as to how it stacks up to the film versions.

On point is how it stacks up, Rigby.
Python Blue made sure to nail the pieces.

Rigby
09-26-2018, 08:04 PM
On point is how it stacks up, Rigby.
Python Blue made sure to nail the pieces.

So were all of the synth files that PB used the originals that Brad Fiedel used?

DAKoftheOTA
09-26-2018, 08:04 PM
Right off the bat I can say the first 3 cues are taken from the OST. Well, sorta. The main title was on the OST. Rush Hour In Hell and The War Against the Machines are not, but most people have had them for years - myself included. They’re decent fan edits. TWAtM is a hodgepodge of Escape from the Hospital (and T1000), ”Trust Me” and ”It’s Over / Goodbye” - which itself is the OST version. I went straight to that one first, it’s my favorite cue.

IM24CTU
09-26-2018, 08:06 PM
How did you make these incredible looking CD design, I wish I could make my designs look so real as those.

Yourfavoratemusic
09-26-2018, 08:16 PM
Which tracks are definitely missing from the OST/Bootlegs?

Raenius
09-26-2018, 08:24 PM
So were all of the synth files that PB used the originals that Brad Fiedel used?

You can check that on his youtube, I believe he linked them in the description.


Right off the bat I can say the first 3 cues are taken from the OST. Well, sorta. The main title was on the OST. Rush Hour In Hell and The War Against the Machines are not, but most people have had them for years - myself included. They�re decent fan edits. TWAtM is a hodgepodge of Escape from the Hospital (and T1000), �Trust Me� and �It�s Over / Goodbye� - which itself is the OST version. I went straight to that one first, it�s my favorite cue.

Not quite. "Rush Hour" was never on a soundtrack and this is a new version from Python Blue. Check his youtube, but you said it yourself: Many had them for years.
TWATM is exactly that and I said that from the get go: Stand in. And if you would�ve checked the credits you would�ve seen which ones are the originals by Fiedel that I took from the OST and put in here. :)


How did you make these incredible looking CD design, I wish I could make my designs look so real as those.

Posters by Ruiz Burgos and edited them in Photoshop to fit my needs. Thanks, man. :)


Which tracks are definitely missing from the OST/Bootlegs?

Currently still a new/clean version of "The War Against The Machines", without the steeldrum and "Tanker Chase", which is missing the first part, directly when the T-1000 smashes through the rest of the chopper with the tanker.

DAKoftheOTA
09-26-2018, 08:24 PM
Which tracks are definitely missing from the OST/Bootlegs?

Rush Hour In Hell
The War Against the Machines
You Take It
T1000 / The Voights
2 Million Sunblock
Remnants from 1984
T800 Target Aquired
Galleria Suite
Tire
My Mission Is to Protect You
Wolfe Is Just Fine
1984 Police Station Massacre
John Remembers
Take A Hike, Bozo
The Message / Dyson
Who Are You People
Let’s Get to Work / T1000 At Dyson’s
We Got Company
Crushed Arm
The Value of Human Life

Honestly it would’ve just been easier to list the OST tracks

Raenius
09-26-2018, 08:31 PM
Rush Hour In Hell
The War Against the Machines
You Take It
T1000 / The Voights
2 Million Sunblock
Remnants from 1984
T800 Target Aquired
Galleria Suite
Tire
My Mission Is to Protect You
Wolfe Is Just Fine
1984 Police Station Massacre
John Remembers
Take A Hike, Bozo
The Message / Dyson
Who Are You People
Let’s Get to Work / T1000 At Dyson’s
We Got Company
Crushed Arm
The Value of Human Life

Honestly it would’ve just been easier to list the OST tracks

If you put it like this...then those are missing, yeah.

TheThe69
09-26-2018, 08:36 PM
Thank you for this!

DAKoftheOTA
09-26-2018, 08:36 PM
If you put it like this...then those are missing, yeah.

What do you mean “put it like that”? Those are 1000% missing from the OST.

Plissken1138
09-26-2018, 08:47 PM
when I saw this thread

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlakyPleasingLark-size_restricted.gif

Raenius
09-26-2018, 08:54 PM
Thank you for this!

You are most welcome.


What do you mean �put it like that�? Those are 1000% missing from the OST.

Nah, man. Chill :D Of course. I meant in comparison to his question. Cause he put bootleg in the question. Your answer was accurate.


when I saw this thread

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlakyPleasingLark-size_restricted.gif

:D

mikerdfan1996
09-26-2018, 09:08 PM
sir, this is amazing and yeah i have heard of python blue. he's a really awesome at recreating music from terminator 2 on youtube.

sith7
09-26-2018, 09:24 PM
Gotta say, the sound quality is fantastic. Galleria suite sounds wonderful.

Dark Knight 86
09-26-2018, 09:35 PM
OMG, I can't wait to hear this, Thank You so much for all of your hard work! :)

foxtown
09-26-2018, 09:41 PM
link is down :(

edit: now it's working

heidl
09-26-2018, 10:02 PM
How did you make these incredible looking CD design, I wish I could make my designs look so real as those.

I was going to say something similar, but then I viewed them at full size.....

NoFateButWhatWeMake
09-26-2018, 10:28 PM
This is stunning stuff. I only discovered Python Blue on Youtube just last week. Parts 1, 2 and 3 have been worn out on the playlists this week. This is so great to have. Thanks for sharing.

reppa35
09-26-2018, 10:28 PM
Thanks

nickknight50
09-26-2018, 10:34 PM
hank you. I did not see canal chase on the list. I am half blind though.

DAKoftheOTA
09-26-2018, 10:35 PM
I was going to say something similar, but then I viewed them at full size.....

Give us something that’ll blow our socks off, Oh Mighty One :D

nickknight50
09-26-2018, 10:47 PM
mp3 128? Nothing better??

DAKoftheOTA
09-26-2018, 10:50 PM
mp3 128? Nothing better??

Perhaps you shouldn’t even listen to it then with that attitude. May as well delete it. And it’s not all 128. Get over it.

Plissken1138
09-26-2018, 10:51 PM
hank you. I did not see canal chase on the list. I am half blind though.

I was just figuring out the same thing :)

Canal Chase is part of Galeria Suite.


This is put together exceptionally well. Haven't heard of Python Blue until now, but the dude has mad skills. If I wasn't told this was someone else I'd swear it was Fiedel.

LeSamourai
09-26-2018, 11:00 PM
Thanks!

Kadron
09-26-2018, 11:04 PM
Sounds extremely great
Two Thumbs up from molten lead!

Quantum16
09-26-2018, 11:37 PM
Thanks man! Listening now and it sounds great so far. I look forward to when we can get a recreation of the remaining cues.

If possible, I think in future it would be best to export to a format like FLAC or ALAC. Not trying to be rude or ungrateful but it's best to preserve what we have whenever we can.

Thanks again for the share!

DAKoftheOTA
09-26-2018, 11:45 PM
I've been meaning to put together The War Against the Machines for the longest time, don't know why I still haven't done it. Also the film versions of Main Title and my favorite cue, "It's Over" ("Goodbye").

Quantum16
09-26-2018, 11:58 PM
I've been meaning to put together The War Against the Machines for the longest time, don't know why I still haven't done it. Also the film versions of Main Title and my favorite cue, "It's Over" ("Goodbye").

Then get to work! :P

Sunshower
09-27-2018, 12:02 AM
You son of a bitch!
https://media.giphy.com/media/BvsKJXGzqfNPq/giphy.gif

VaderLives
09-27-2018, 01:13 AM
I just discovered Python Blue's YouTube stuff last week, and it is on POINT. Very excited to hear this.

jediscore
09-27-2018, 01:30 AM
Will listen , Thanks for share this

Donnor
09-27-2018, 02:43 AM
Thanks man! Listening now and it sounds great so far. I look forward to when we can get a recreation of the remaining cues.

If possible, I think in future it would be best to export to a format like FLAC or ALAC. Not trying to be rude or ungrateful but it's best to preserve what we have whenever we can.

I echo this sentiment. While these recreated cues are a dream, at some point, it would be ideal to have the lossless preservation of Python Blue's and Raenius' excellent work

Scorehunter01
09-27-2018, 03:00 AM
Thanks for sharing and folks if you watch this film again like many of our favorite films and the there music you'll here and see how the music has been cut and paste and edited to fit the film! There's many examples Ennio Morricone's The THING, James Horner's ALIENS etc....

web traveller
09-27-2018, 05:58 AM
Thanks so much.

Raenius
09-27-2018, 07:05 AM
I was going to say something similar, but then I viewed them at full size.....

The packed quality is better and I printed it out for myself. There is NOTHING to be desired, I can asure you.


Give us something that’ll blow our socks off, Oh Mighty One :D

:D


mp3 128? Nothing better??


Perhaps you shouldn’t even listen to it then with that attitude. May as well delete it. And it’s not all 128. Get over it.

Thank you.^^


Sounds extremely great
Two Thumbs up from molten lead!

Thanks, buddy.


Thanks man! Listening now and it sounds great so far. I look forward to when we can get a recreation of the remaining cues.

If possible, I think in future it would be best to export to a format like FLAC or ALAC. Not trying to be rude or ungrateful but it's best to preserve what we have whenever we can.

Thanks again for the share!

I would�ve loved to, but I don�t have access to his files, like I said in the main post: I asked him to do it together, he opted for being non-associated in it. So I had to rip the music from youtube with the highest quality possible. Happy you enjoyed either way though, of course. Thank you :)


I've been meaning to put together The War Against the Machines for the longest time, don't know why I still haven't done it. Also the film versions of Main Title and my favorite cue, "It's Over" ("Goodbye").

Wouzld love to hear what you�d do and then add it to this score. ;)


You son of a bitch!
https://media.giphy.com/media/BvsKJXGzqfNPq/giphy.gif

:D


I echo this sentiment. While these recreated cues are a dream, at some point, it would be ideal to have the lossless preservation of Python Blue's and Raenius' excellent work

Like I said: would�ve loved to, but I don�t have access to his files, like I said in the main post: I asked him to do it together, he opted for being non-associated in it. So I had to rip the music from youtube with the highest quality possible. And please don�t attach me to ANY of the musical work. I did the coverset, nothing more. Thank you anyway, of course. :)

All else: Happy you enjoy. I wanted to do this for so long and I always wanted to share if it was possible.
Happy also that I was able to give it to you and that the quality suffices. :)

Also thank you for all the Rep points. Appreciate it. :)

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And since a few people have doubted the quality: Grainy **** doesn�t enter my shelf. >The ONLY picture that could be improved, is the endoskeleton inlay, but otherwise, everything is crisp.

Also: I went one step further and made a Cyberdyne Edition myself, with a proper presentation.

<a href="https://ibb.co/j0eA49">

<a href="https://ibb.co/f7PzxU">

<a href="https://ibb.co/cw2V49">

<a href="https://ibb.co/hhJRcU">

<a href="https://ibb.co/cMjzxU">

<a href="https://ibb.co/gMTRcU">

<a href="https://ibb.co/nAEMBp">

Hope this convices you...

darth2602
09-27-2018, 07:39 AM
This work deserve a Flac version please...

Raenius
09-27-2018, 07:45 AM
Flac please...

Not possible, sorry. Read further above for explanation. Thank you.

ggctuk2005
09-27-2018, 07:58 AM
Wow! This is just amazing work!

(BTW, I wonder if Python Blue would be willing to 'complete' the newer Terminator 1 soundtrack as well, since it's nearly there but still missing one or two bits)

Raenius
09-27-2018, 08:00 AM
Wow! This is just amazing work!

(BTW, I wonder if Python Blue would be willing to 'complete' the newer Terminator 1 soundtrack as well, since it's nearly there but still missing one or two bits)

Thank you. :)

Well, he did a few bits on his channel too. One can always hope. :)

HunterTech
09-27-2018, 08:09 AM
A bit disappointing that Python Blue decided not to contribute himself, though I do wonder if he plans to do more with his recreations. Anyway, I'm certainly glad you put the effort in assembling this set. What exactly did you use to rip the YT audio? Same goes for any other non-OST sources you might've used.

darth2602
09-27-2018, 08:17 AM
end title is missing or not ?

Raenius
09-27-2018, 08:18 AM
A bit disappointing that Python Blue decided not to contribute himself, though I do wonder if he plans to do more with his recreations. Anyway, I'm certainly glad you put the effort in assembling this set. What exactly did you use to rip the YT audio? Same goes for any other non-OST sources you might've used.

I used a 320kb/s ripper from the internet, which is why the audio is that good, even though it is a rip. That�s all to it. Further fade ins and outs are done with Audacity.

On further tunes: He will do a proper "Tanker Chase" and "The War Against The Machines".

Thank you. :)

heidl
09-27-2018, 08:32 AM
Give us something that’ll blow our socks off, Oh Mighty One :D

lol yeah... someday


The packed quality is better and I printed it out for myself. There is NOTHING to be desired, I can asure you.

Well, the perfectionist in me disagrees. I saw a number of things that indicate sloppy editing:



The font looks weird, like it's been horizontally compressed



Var�se is missing its grave accent and the kerning is really bad. It's reading like "V ARESE", probably because you've used a cheap fanmade font. These kerning errors can be spotted all over the artworks.


https://i.imgur.com/q4X0oRd.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/1N1UoTO.jpg
Look at that! You can assure me anything you want, but this looks horrible.


https://i.imgur.com/K5pJd46.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/jW0y4Ls.jpg
Fuzzy edges...



What photography?



Blurry, wrong year (it should state 2018). You should redo detail infos like that.



Again, cheap font. Also, the legibility is pretty hard to read, with the whole tracklist rolled into one paragraph like that. How about some variation like different colours, weight, spacing?



Disc 1 is missing a blank space there.


See what I mean? If you strive for greatness, then go all the way. Because quality knows no compromise. The photos of the full set look great, but the devil lies in the details.

Raenius
09-27-2018, 08:46 AM
lol yeah... someday



Well, the perfectionist in me disagrees. I saw a number of things that indicate sloppy editing:



The font looks weird, like it's been horizontally compressed



Var�se is missing its grave accent and the kerning is really bad. It's reading like "V ARESE", probably because you've used a cheap fanmade font. These kerning errors can be spotted all over the artworks.


https://i.imgur.com/q4X0oRd.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/1N1UoTO.jpg
Look at that! You can assure me anything you want, but this looks horrible.


https://i.imgur.com/K5pJd46.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/jW0y4Ls.jpg
Fuzzy edges...



What photography?



Blurry, wrong year (it should state 2018). If you are the perfectionist you pretend to be, then you should redo detail infos like that.



Again, cheap font. Also, the legibility is pretty hard to read, with the whole tracklist rolled into one paragraph like that. How about some variation like different colours, weight, spacing?



Disc 1 is missing a blank space there.


See what I mean? If you strive for greatness, then go all the way. Because quality knows no compromise. The photos of the full set look great, but the devil lies in the details.

It�s a font I downloaded, so yeah. There�s that. I will try to recitify all you pointed out, cause you are right, but still: Chill out. Not everybody has the same experience you may have and also the same tools.
You started at one point too, did you?!

Like I said: You are right with the mistakes...except ONE:
You can hardly call me (Photography Tim Kay, as this is what I do and I put this work under it, cause I made it) as a mistake.
Point made?!

fafou2029
09-27-2018, 08:48 AM
I second @DAKoftheOTA on this, my holly grail too... and will definitely give a isten to it.... Thanks

Dave999
09-27-2018, 08:50 AM
How did you rip this from youtube? Because I can do a clean 128k AAC rip. Your files are mp3. I'm just wondering. If you went from lossy AAC to lossy MP3, you're only making it worse :)
But this IS a very good set, very much enjoyed listening to it so far.

Raenius
09-27-2018, 08:52 AM
How did you rip this from youtube? Because I can do a clean 128k AAC rip. Your files are mp3. I'm just wondering. If you went from lossy AAC to lossy MP3, you're only making it worse :)
But this IS a very good set, very much enjoyed listening to it so far.

It was a youtube ripper with 320kb/s ripping capability, I found.

Pinpon10
09-27-2018, 08:58 AM
Thanks :)

fafou2029
09-27-2018, 08:58 AM
Listening to it now :)

Plissken1138
09-27-2018, 09:09 AM
It was a youtube ripper with 320kb/s ripping capability, I found.


I can do a clean 128k AAC rip.


I've tinkered with youtube-dl a bit and found out two out of three suite clips originally are MKVs with OPUS audio and third is MP4 with AAC, all around 128 kbps. Did not check trailer/teaser clips.

If you wanna tool to cut mp3 you downloaded w/o further re-encoding try Visual MP3 Splitter & Joiner. It's crude and takes little time to get used to but works fine.

fafou2029
09-27-2018, 09:31 AM
Well, I am track 25, and I have to say it's pretty cool to hear. It's definitely SFX free, not sure where this come from, but overall the quality is acceptable. Thanks for the share.

Raenius
09-27-2018, 09:34 AM
Well, I am track 25, and I have to say it's pretty cool to hear. It's definitely SFX free, not sure where this come from, but overall the quality is acceptable. Thanks for the share.

Read the main post and you know where it�s coming from.

Yourfavoratemusic
09-27-2018, 09:49 AM
--nvm--

heidl
09-27-2018, 10:08 AM
It�s a font I downloaded, so yeah. There�s that. I will try to recitify all you pointed out, cause you are right, but still: Chill out. Not everybody has the same experience you may have and also the same tools.
You started at one point too, did you?!

Like I said: You are right with the mistakes...except ONE:
You can hardly call me (Photography Tim Kay, as this is what I do and I put this work under it, cause I made it) as a mistake.
Point made?!

I know that font, it's bad. But there's a better looking one out there and I've uploaded it here for you:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r98708flwgbaagw/Terminator%20Real%20NFI.ttf?dl=0

Who am I, critizicing and not helping... so feel free to ask me anything whenever you need help. I appreciate your willingness to tackle those nitpickings of mine. And I didn't know that YOU are Tim Kay, in that case it's just the wording ("Photography") that is misleading.

megadonkey
09-27-2018, 10:18 AM
I cannot believe the amount of people who snipe at someone who is simply trying to bring the "best available" version of the OST to you all.

As for Python Blue's work? Sterling. I'm a Fairlight guy myself - without going into detail - and he used precisely the correct libraries and techniques, at least as near as you can get without a real Series III in front of you (Brad used two, one for percussion, one for everything else). Fortunately for us all, the majority of the samples were factory libraries, so able to be recreated. I have the same libraries myself.

Thank you to original poster for putting it together, thanks to PB for the hard work, and grow up to those who nitpick at things like a goddamn font. (Jesus!)

PS - as a film composer myself, believe it or not, we actually like it when people are that keen on getting the larger works out there where certain restrictions mean the all the cues aren't on the album - or worse, no album exists. The only time it's a drag is when the complete album is out there, available easily, and it's a small production and/or label. This is an example of giving people who most likely would have paid $$$ for a complete score something to tide them over. My understanding is that BF isn't remotely interested in working towards pushing for a complete release, and that's probably that for the moment. VS as a label being notorious for issuing short versions of scores regardless of whether or not there's orchestral re-use cost issues...

Raenius
09-27-2018, 10:38 AM
I know that font, it's bad. But there's a better looking one out there and I've uploaded it here for you:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r98708flwgbaagw/Terminator%20Real%20NFI.ttf?dl=0

Who am I, critizicing and not helping... so feel free to ask me anything whenever you need help. I appreciate your willingness to tackle those nitpickings of mine. And I didn't know that YOU are Tim Kay, in that case it's just the wording ("Photography") that is misleading.

Awesome, I will happily check that font later and apply it to my work, thank you.

Yeah, misleading...I give you that. But I�m a toy photographer, with FB, IG and YT pages and do a lot with photoshop, which is why I�ve written that under that "label/brand, you know?!

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I cannot believe the amount of people who snipe at someone who is simply trying to bring the "best available" version of the OST to you all.

As for Python Blue's work? Sterling. I'm a Fairlight guy myself - without going into detail - and he used precisely the correct libraries and techniques, at least as near as you can get without a real Series III in front of you (Brad used two, one for percussion, one for everything else). Fortunately for us all, the majority of the samples were factory libraries, so able to be recreated. I have the same libraries myself.

Thank you to original poster for putting it together, thanks to PB for the hard work, and grow up to those who nitpick at things like a goddamn font. (Jesus!)

PS - as a film composer myself, believe it or not, we actually like it when people are that keen on getting the larger works out there where certain restrictions mean the all the cues aren't on the album - or worse, no album exists. The only time it's a drag is when the complete album is out there, available easily, and it's a small production and/or label. This is an example of giving people who most likely would have paid $$$ for a complete score something to tide them over. My understanding is that BF isn't remotely interested in working towards pushing for a complete release, and that's probably that for the moment. VS as a label being notorious for issuing short versions of scores regardless of whether or not there's orchestral re-use cost issues...

That�s what I hear about VS too and BF supposedly has it all, but as far as I know he�s cotranctually obligated to NOT release it. Pity.

For the rest: Heidl is right with many points, but I also pointed out things. He�s an experienced guy and needs to chill, but we�re working on it.
Thanks for having my back though. Appreciate it. :)

---------- Post added at 03:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:26 AM ----------

THANKS TO ALL THE REPUTATION POINT GIVERS!!!
Much obliged.

:) :) :) :)

heidl
09-27-2018, 10:49 AM
Thank you to original poster for putting it together, thanks to PB for the hard work, and grow up to those who nitpick at things like a goddamn font. (Jesus!)

Well, if you as a composer don't care about design, that's your call. But I as a designer do.
And I think the artwork is just as important as the music, especially for ambitious projects like this one.

Duncan Jacques
09-27-2018, 10:54 AM
I can't download the score. Is a re-upload possible?

Raenius
09-27-2018, 10:57 AM
I can't download the score. Is a re-upload possible?

Currently can�t. At work. Please re-try. Otherwise I will re-upload later.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
09-27-2018, 11:22 AM
I used a 320kb/s ripper from the internet, which is why the audio is that good, even though it is a rip. That�s all to it. Further fade ins and outs are done with Audacity.


Some thing tells me you don't really know jack about audio.

Someone mentioned they can do a clean AAC rip.

"Ripping" at 320 isn't a real thing. It's a transcoding thing.
So the uploader originally uploaded lossy audio to youtube, youtube-dl should list the options you can download.
Don't use the GUI, they're all shit with options that mean nothing.
The CLI is better with proper feedback for the links. You can do it without transcoding.

And if you imported and did extra editing in Audacity, that only means you're doing yet another lossy transcode.

That's generations upon generations of lossy compression.

320 is not "that good".
It's subjectively equal to VBR-0.

AAC is "that good". Which is probably what the original audio is on youtube, besides a different set available in Opus or OGG.

What a waste of good potential.

Dave999
09-27-2018, 11:22 AM
I've tinkered with youtube-dl a bit and found out two out of three suite clips originally are MKVs with OPUS audio and third is MP4 with AAC, all around 128 kbps. Did not check trailer/teaser clips.

If you wanna tool to cut mp3 you downloaded w/o further re-encoding try Visual MP3 Splitter & Joiner. It's crude and takes little time to get used to but works fine.

That's ok, Plissken, I was just curious. I have Audition and Audacity myself, but I don't intend to do any editing myself ;) The score representation is fine as it is :)


I cannot believe the amount of people who snipe at someone who is simply trying to bring the "best available" version of the OST to you all.

As for Python Blue's work? Sterling. I'm a Fairlight guy myself - without going into detail - and he used precisely the correct libraries and techniques, at least as near as you can get without a real Series III in front of you (Brad used two, one for percussion, one for everything else). Fortunately for us all, the majority of the samples were factory libraries, so able to be recreated. I have the same libraries myself.

Thank you to original poster for putting it together, thanks to PB for the hard work, and grow up to those who nitpick at things like a goddamn font. (Jesus!)

PS - as a film composer myself, believe it or not, we actually like it when people are that keen on getting the larger works out there where certain restrictions mean the all the cues aren't on the album - or worse, no album exists. The only time it's a drag is when the complete album is out there, available easily, and it's a small production and/or label. This is an example of giving people who most likely would have paid $$$ for a complete score something to tide them over. My understanding is that BF isn't remotely interested in working towards pushing for a complete release, and that's probably that for the moment. VS as a label being notorious for issuing short versions of scores regardless of whether or not there's orchestral re-use cost issues...

Maybe just wait and see how Raenius responds to the constructive criticism instead of bashing people yourself? Raenius took it very well, and heidl reached out to him to improve his work. Your post was entirely unnecessary.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
09-27-2018, 11:23 AM
I've tinkered with youtube-dl a bit and found out two out of three suite clips originally are MKVs with OPUS audio and third is MP4 with AAC, all around 128 kbps. Did not check trailer/teaser clips.

If you wanna tool to cut mp3 you downloaded w/o further re-encoding try Visual MP3 Splitter & Joiner. It's crude and takes little time to get used to but works fine.

Please do. You're well educated.

Yahzee
09-27-2018, 11:32 AM
...so... this is YouTube rip? If so, anyone could've done it. Sorry but if this isn't the real thing then I don't get the excitement and the title of the post is misleading.

Kadron
09-27-2018, 11:42 AM
Its a source nobody posted before though, or seemed to be aware of much.

Dave999
09-27-2018, 11:47 AM
Some alternate artwork for those that want it.

(https://imgur.com/IcoewH4) (https://imgur.com/Dpn4kfM) (https://imgur.com/Y3po4pf)

(https://imgur.com/Zr3ECJu) (https://imgur.com/emmAV5C)
...so... this is YouTube rip? If so, anyone could've done it. Sorry but if this isn't the real thing then I don't get the excitement and the title of the post is misleading.


Its a source nobody posted before though, or seemed to be aware of much.

It's not "the real deal" in the sense that this isn't the OG done by Brad Fiedel. It's real enough in that the guy that made it used the exact same equipment, the same samples and recreated parts of the score.
He posted three suites on his youtube page, and the OP edited those cues into the full tracklist you see on page 1. It's very well done and is a great listen. If you don't want to, then don't post? ;)

me-here
09-27-2018, 11:52 AM
Sorry but why crap Lossy Quali ?

Lossy ok but please 320 not 160 we are in 2018
and not everybody use a Crapy IPhone with a 1$ Sound Chip

some People use a Hi Res Audio Player with a High End HeadPhone

Flac or 320 Mp3 please the rest is for the Recycle Bin or for IP Users they know only qualy like this.


Good Job anyway


IPhone's are only for Hypnotized Robots they forgot what is Quality and Fun

Raenius
09-27-2018, 12:03 PM
Some alternate artwork for those that want it.

(https://imgur.com/IcoewH4) (https://imgur.com/Dpn4kfM) (https://imgur.com/Y3po4pf)

(https://imgur.com/Zr3ECJu) (https://imgur.com/emmAV5C)



It's not "the real deal" in the sense that this isn't the OG done by Brad Fiedel. It's real enough in that the guy that made it used the exact same equipment, the same samples and recreated parts of the score.
He posted three suites on his youtube page, and the OP edited those cues into the full tracklist you see on page 1. It's very well done and is a great listen. If you don't want to, then don't post? ;)

Great covers, man. Nice work and thanks for backing me. :)


Some thing tells me you don't really know jack about audio.

Someone mentioned they can do a clean AAC rip.

"Ripping" at 320 isn't a real thing. It's a transcoding thing.
So the uploader originally uploaded lossy audio to youtube, youtube-dl should list the options you can download.
Don't use the GUI, they're all shit with options that mean nothing.
The CLI is better with proper feedback for the links. You can do it without transcoding.

And if you imported and did extra editing in Audacity, that only means you're doing yet another lossy transcode.

That's generations upon generations of lossy compression.

320 is not "that good".
It's subjectively equal to VBR-0.

AAC is "that good". Which is probably what the original audio is on youtube, besides a different set available in Opus or OGG.

What a waste of good potential.

I don�t have a big deal of knowledge and never said I did.
Do it yourself if you got the connections. I wrote with the guy, but he didn�t give me the files.

I only write this AGAIN, because I am a nice guy.
It�s explained in the opening post.


Sorry but why crap Lossy Quali ?

Lossy ok but please 320 not 160 we are in 2018
and not everybody use a Crapy IPhone with a 1$ Sound Chip

some People use a Hi Res Audio Player with a High End HeadPhone

Flac or 320 Mp3 please the rest is for the Recycle Bin or for IP Users they know only qualy like this.


Good Job anyway


IPhone's are only for Hypnotized Robots they forgot what is Quality and Fun

Interesting, you bash my work, but it�s still a good job?! That�s confusing and why the "bad" quality (damn, some audio-afficionados here):
Read the opening post.

For everybody else:
I now told this already a dozen times:
WHY NO FLAC ETC.?!
BECAUSE I DON�T HAVE THE FILES!!!

Nobody cared to rip this, compile this and make a cover set, I DID.

So if you�re done bashing my work, don�t read the opening post and STILL intend to complain, you got 2 choices:

No.1: Accept the fact THIS is here and it won�t get better and be happy
No.2: You got better knowledge, the connections and can do it better:
GO AHEAD.

Have I made myself clear?
Fine. Good day.

Sunshower
09-27-2018, 12:28 PM
Sorry but why crap Lossy Quali ?

Lossy ok but please 320 not 160 we are in 2018
and not everybody use a Crapy IPhone with a 1$ Sound Chip

some People use a Hi Res Audio Player with a High End HeadPhone

Flac or 320 Mp3 please the rest is for the Recycle Bin or for IP Users they know only qualy like this.


Good Job anyway


IPhone's are only for Hypnotized Robots they forgot what is Quality and Fun

Imagine being this autistic.

Raenius
09-27-2018, 12:37 PM
Imagine being this autistic.

:D

Scorehunter01
09-27-2018, 01:00 PM
Raenius thank you again for sharing this and the cover art as well. I have never been 1 to complain about some ones post, I was just glad to get it or hear it!
So the I just wanted to say I really appreciate this I was a teenager when this film came out and worked at a Theatre too and got to see it on the big screen over and over and over!
It was so awesome I even went as far as saving my money and buying a real biker leather jacket LOL. Yes 6.4 skinny black dude walking around thinking he was the TERMINATOR!
LOL great teenage times. Always wanted to hear the score like it is in the film, I didn't understand till like 5 years ago about how a film composer writes and conducts the music for a film, but afterwards the director, editor cut and paste and alter or not use the music presented. The OST is a basic representation of the main cues so that the listening experience flows.
Folks need to realize and stop complaining when some one trys to share something. Film music was never meant to stand alone it was made for films, we just Love it some much.
So again thanks don't let the complainers get you down!

Raenius
09-27-2018, 01:05 PM
Raenius thank you again for sharing this and the cover art as well. I have never been 1 to complain about some ones post, I was just glad to get it or hear it!
So the I just wanted to say I really appreciate this I was a teenager when this film came out and worked at a Theatre too and got to see it on the big screen over and over and over!
It was so awesome I even went as far as saving my money and buying a real biker leather jacket LOL. Yes 6.4 skinny black dude walking around thinking he was the TERMINATOR!
LOL great teenage times. Always wanted to hear the score like it is in the film, I didn't understand till like 5 years ago about how a film composer writes and conducts the music for a film, but afterwards the director, editor cut and paste and alter or not use the music presented. The OST is a basic representation of the main cues so that the listening experience flows.
Folks need to realize and stop complaining when some one trys to share something. Film music was never meant to stand alone it was made for films, we just Love it some much.
So again thanks don't let the complainers get you down!

You�re welcome. Happy you like it and: I won�t. Thanks, brother. :)

It�s not the problem about how the music is, that starts to aggrevate me. It�s the point that it�s free, I used my free time to do it and shared it, explained it in the main post, yet questions about a format start coming it, that simply is NOT feasible as those were not my files.

I just did my best to complile this into one good looking and as best as possible unit to present and I believe I succeeded, for the most part.
A few corrections on the cover set itself, with the help of Heindl, but otherwise, only 2 songs missing and we�re set.

I think that says it all. :)
Thanks again.

Dark Knight 86
09-27-2018, 01:20 PM
Well, even if the files are in mp3 format, I still really love it. For me, it sounds just like what was heard in the film.

The fact that we now got a complete version of this score (even if it is mostly recreations) is all I could ask for. So again, Thank You so much for all the hard work! :)

Raenius
09-27-2018, 01:24 PM
Well, even if the files are in mp3 format, I still really love it. For me, it sounds just like what was heard in the film.

The fact that we now got a complete version of this score (even if it is mostly recreations) is all I could ask for. So again, Thank You so much for all the hard work! :)

Happy you like it. You�re welcome. :)

jedisaurus
09-27-2018, 02:25 PM
I am downloading now thanks! I hope this is better than my fan edit that everyone hated. :)

Kadron
09-27-2018, 02:31 PM
Having compared the two
Its amazing how true this is to the film.
There's just one instrument that seems hard to imitate (that ticking noise around 2:30 in Galeria Suite), but you hardly notice and I cant complain.

Piggly Wiggly
09-27-2018, 03:30 PM
It's time to post the original complete session.

sith7
09-27-2018, 03:45 PM
I think what you've shared is truly amazing after having a listen. Not to sound whiny or complain, but more as a question, because I, as well as others really do appreciate this. Why do several tracks, that have been done by Python Blue, have ends that just cut off? If he redid the cues himself, shouldn't they have normal endings? That was just something I noticed and was curious about. Please don't take it as complaining or anything. I was just wondering?

Vosk
09-27-2018, 03:46 PM
It's time to post the original complete session.


If you truly do have it, it would be nice if you posted them.

Uncle Bela
09-27-2018, 04:56 PM
Thank you very much. :)

Lockdown
09-27-2018, 04:56 PM
It's time to post the original complete session.

:smug:

Prince Jay
09-27-2018, 05:12 PM
Thanks for the upload, and the covers!!! Will DEFINITELY give this a listen!

Len94
09-27-2018, 05:19 PM
Thank you

dkj
09-27-2018, 05:25 PM
Props for the upload dude. Some stuff on there I've never heard before.

symetrisg
09-27-2018, 05:33 PM
Why can't you guys just be happy with this!? It sounds great! sure it's missing a few pieces, sure its not FLAC, but hell, Raenius did us all a huge favor by not only posting this but editing and putting it in order for us. It takes a great amount of time to do this (trust me I know) I downloaded Python Blue myself and it was a pain to edit and rearrange those tracks, glad someone was able to do this for me :)

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The BIGGEST thing to give thx is that it is 100% SFX Frees!

jedisaurus
09-27-2018, 06:12 PM
Im thinking of redoing my edit. May I use some material from this? What are some differences between this and mine? No not being snarky, not at all! Just wanted to know how it is improved over my edit.

DAKoftheOTA
09-27-2018, 06:32 PM
It's time to post the original complete session.

thank you share!


Im thinking of redoing my edit. May I use some material from this? What are some differences between this and mine? No not being snarky, not at all! Just wanted to know how it is improved over my edit.

Yours has sfx and bad edits imo. Just stating the obvious, no offense meant.

alabamabo
09-27-2018, 07:49 PM
Thank you.

Raenius
09-27-2018, 08:04 PM
Having compared the two
Its amazing how true this is to the film.
There's just one instrument that seems hard to imitate (that ticking noise around 2:30 in Galeria Suite), but you hardly notice and I cant complain.

I don�t know how possible this is, as PB used the digitalized files from the machines Brad Fiedel used and I didn�t hear a difference...but who knows.


I think what you've shared is truly amazing after having a listen. Not to sound whiny or complain, but more as a question, because I, as well as others really do appreciate this. Why do several tracks, that have been done by Python Blue, have ends that just cut off? If he redid the cues himself, shouldn't they have normal endings? That was just something I noticed and was curious about. Please don't take it as complaining or anything. I was just wondering?

He posted those as suits, which needed cutting. That is why. I tried my best to fade them out smoothly.


Props for the upload dude. Some stuff on there I've never heard before.

Thank you and your most welcome. :)


Why can't you guys just be happy with this!? It sounds great! sure it's missing a few pieces, sure its not FLAC, but hell, Raenius did us all a huge favor by not only posting this but editing and putting it in order for us. It takes a great amount of time to do this (trust me I know) I downloaded Python Blue myself and it was a pain to edit and rearrange those tracks, glad someone was able to do this for me :)

Your welcome. :)

---------- Post added at 09:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:31 AM ----------

The BIGGEST thing to give thx is that it is 100% SFX Frees!

Ain�t that the truth :D


Im thinking of redoing my edit. May I use some material from this? What are some differences between this and mine? No not being snarky, not at all! Just wanted to know how it is improved over my edit.

Uhm, sure. Fire away. Dunno the differences though. Don�t know your edit.


thank you share!



Yours has sfx and bad edits imo. Just stating the obvious, no offense meant.

:D

Thanks again for all the kind words. Happy you enjoy. :)

---------- Post added at 01:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:58 PM ----------

NEW LINK IN MAIN POST WHICH CORRECTED FEW MISTAKES POINTED OUT BY HEINDL.
Hope you enjoy. :)

Plissken1138
09-27-2018, 09:12 PM
A little color tweak on Dave999's stellar design.

(https://imgur.com/oVozL4h)

danhalluk
09-27-2018, 09:16 PM
I have to say this is bloody marvelous. After years of waiting, this is close enough to that ultimate holy grail complete score to please my T2 obsession... Atleast for now.

Any updated version of this (newer tracks/higher bitrate/lossless) and I am there. Thanks for your efforts @Raenius

Kadron
09-27-2018, 09:28 PM
I don�t know how possible this is, as PB used the digitalized files from the machines Brad Fiedel used and I didn�t hear a difference...but who knows.

May just be a result of using youtube as a source, lol.

DylanZimmer
09-27-2018, 09:49 PM
As most of you should be aware, Brad Fiedel has said that the original music is lost. He wishes like everyone else that it could be released, and is always pleased and amazed at fans reactions to his work. This set absolutely amazes me, that anyone could go and REPLAY every cue as heard in the film. I'd swear Brad himself was doing this, if I didn't know better. I'd like to see what Python Blue could do with the score to True Lies as well.

Prince Jay
09-27-2018, 09:55 PM
Lol

castas
09-27-2018, 10:26 PM
Thank you

nickknight50
09-27-2018, 10:50 PM
Well, the op has clearly described what this is, how it was created and the quality shared. If you don't care for it then just move along. It is the absolute best you're going to get unless Python Blue produces split tracks*, and it is the closet we'll get to the real deal until or if the original sessions surface.

*Unless some of our tech and editing gurus can dl at better quality and edit themselves. Which would be cool.

sith7
09-27-2018, 11:00 PM
He posted those as suits, which needed cutting. That is why. I tried my best to fade them out smoothly.


OK. That makes sense. Thanks.

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I'd like to see what Python Blue could do with the score to True Lies as well.

Hell yes! Love that score.

cheldo1
09-28-2018, 12:16 AM
Congratulations to Python Blue for the work involved, and I'm saying this without even having listened to the score. I'm off to it now!

---------- Post added at 11:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:38 PM ----------

The sound work is truly excellent. Naturally, the audio quality could be higher... really only if Brad Fiedel released the masters.

No jokes, this is absolutely amazing and I cannot wait to complete the set with the last two tracks. The "Galleria Suite" is impressive. I loved the absolutely clean version of "Rush Hour In Hell" (the cover says "into", which is wrong, I'm afraid)-

Great, thank you for sharing!

danhalluk
09-28-2018, 12:52 AM
Like I said: would've loved to, but I don�t have access to his files, like I said in the main post: I asked him to do it together, he opted for being non-associated in it. So I had to rip the music from youtube with the highest quality possible.

I'm sort of thinking out loud but it has me wondering; there were versions of the 'Bladerunner' and 'The Thing' scores that were recreated from scratch by independent artists then released on legitimate labels. There have also been 're-recordings' of T2 cues already released on compilation albums by Silva Screen records.

Surely if we rally enough support for PB, the same could happen here? I mean, whoever the licence holder is atm might actually be keen considering the original masters have gone AWOL. Maybe a bit far fetched but I'd love to see a fully completed, lossless album presentation of this and perhaps some sort of reward for all PB's hard work.

Scorehunter01
09-28-2018, 02:14 AM
well I listened to it today while at work and I think its FANTASTIC! this dude did some awesome recreated stuff, I really enjoyed the Galleria Suite and could not believe it when I heard The Tire track when T-1000 walks out of the fire! WOW always liked that little piece, and some body said there tracks missing for the Definitive edition of The TERMINATOR, I listened to that today as well and they were right never even noticed!
Don't know about Bladerunner but The THING was re-recorded by Alan Howarth & Larry Hopkins I got that autographed from the composer, but some one also posted the actually OST + The Film Score to the THING with 2 songs from the film and radio spot trailer!

Thread 201495

The_Bearded_One
09-28-2018, 04:16 AM
Oh, man! This is also a holy grail of mine! I can't wait to hear what you've done with it! Thank you!

Raenius
09-28-2018, 05:45 AM
A little color tweak on Dave999's stellar design.

(https://imgur.com/oVozL4h)

Nice one. :)


I have to say this is bloody marvelous. After years of waiting, this is close enough to that ultimate holy grail complete score to please my T2 obsession... Atleast for now.

Any updated version of this (newer tracks/higher bitrate/lossless) and I am there. Thanks for your efforts @Raenius

Be sure I�ll update the songs then.^^ Your welcome. :)


As most of you should be aware, Brad Fiedel has said that the original music is lost. He wishes like everyone else that it could be released, and is always pleased and amazed at fans reactions to his work. This set absolutely amazes me, that anyone could go and REPLAY every cue as heard in the film. I'd swear Brad himself was doing this, if I didn't know better. I'd like to see what Python Blue could do with the score to True Lies as well.

Truth.


Well, the op has clearly described what this is, how it was created and the quality shared. If you don't care for it then just move along. It is the absolute best you're going to get unless Python Blue produces split tracks*, and it is the closet we'll get to the real deal until or if the original sessions surface.

*Unless some of our tech and editing gurus can dl at better quality and edit themselves. Which would be cool.

This :D
And: I�d update my songs, be sure of it...


OK. That makes sense. Thanks.

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Hell yes! Love that score.

Glad you enjoy :)


Congratulations to Python Blue for the work involved, and I'm saying this without even having listened to the score. I'm off to it now!

---------- Post added at 11:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:38 PM ----------

The sound work is truly excellent. Naturally, the audio quality could be higher... really only if Brad Fiedel released the masters.

No jokes, this is absolutely amazing and I cannot wait to complete the set with the last two tracks. The "Galleria Suite" is impressive. I loved the absolutely clean version of "Rush Hour In Hell" (the cover says "into", which is wrong, I'm afraid)-

Great, thank you for sharing!

Thx for pointing out, next revision will then be the version with V1 cover set. Glad you enjoy. :)

EDIT: I intentionally named it like this, cause to me that Rush Hour LEADS into hell, cause once the flash is over...the rush hour looks pretty dead to me.


I'm sort of thinking out loud but it has me wondering; there were versions of the 'Bladerunner' and 'The Thing' scores that were recreated from scratch by independent artists then released on legitimate labels. There have also been 're-recordings' of T2 cues already released on compilation albums by Silva Screen records.

Surely if we rally enough support for PB, the same could happen here? I mean, whoever the licence holder is atm might actually be keen considering the original masters have gone AWOL. Maybe a bit far fetched but I'd love to see a fully completed, lossless album presentation of this and perhaps some sort of reward for all PB's hard work.

Hear Hear. Nice thoughts, man.


well I listened to it today while at work and I think its FANTASTIC! this dude did some awesome recreated stuff, I really enjoyed the Galleria Suite and could not believe it when I heard The Tire track when T-1000 walks out of the fire! WOW always liked that little piece, and some body said there tracks missing for the Definitive edition of The TERMINATOR, I listened to that today as well and they were right never even noticed!
Don't know about Bladerunner but The THING was re-recorded by Alan Howarth & Larry Hopkins I got that autographed from the composer, but some one also posted the actually OST + The Film Score to the THING with 2 songs from the film and radio spot trailer!

Thread 201495

Yeah, all the bits I never heard clear had me mark the **** out. Galleria Suite is my fav.


Oh, man! This is also a holy grail of mine! I can't wait to hear what you've done with it! Thank you!
I didn�t do anything to the tracks. I ONLY did the cover set.
Musical praise for the missing bits goes ALONE and ALONE ONLY to Python Blue.

---------- Post added at 10:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:36 PM ----------

On a slightly different matter: Who, that did DL this set, took it and uploaded it here:

http://download-soundtracks.com/movie_soundtracks/terminator-2-judgment-day-soundtrack-complete-by-brad-fiedel/

I shared it HERE on purpose so it doesn�t just pop up on the internet like that, as we need an account to DL. Now it�s out in the open...

Prince Jay
09-28-2018, 05:48 AM
Nice going to whoever did this.....

Lockdown
09-28-2018, 06:50 AM
You really didn't think that openly sharing something on the biggest pirating film music / video games / anime forums, it would not appear elsewhere?

nickknight50
09-28-2018, 06:52 AM
Nice one. :)



Be sure I�ll update the songs then.^^ Your welcome. :)



Truth.



This :D
And: I�d update my songs, be sure of it...



Glad you enjoy :)



Thx for pointing out, next revision will then be the version with V1 cover set. Glad you enjoy. :)

EDIT: I intentionally named it like this, cause to me that Rush Hour LEADS into hell, cause once the flash is over...the rush hour looks pretty dead to me.



Hear Hear. Nice thoughts, man.



Yeah, all the bits I never heard clear had me mark the **** out. Galleria Suite is my fav.


I didn�t do anything to the tracks. I ONLY did the cover set.
Musical praise for the missing bits goes ALONE and ALONE ONLY to Python Blue.

---------- Post added at 10:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:36 PM ----------

On a slightly different matter: [SIZE=5]Who, that did DL this set, took it and uploaded it here:[/SI

http://download-soundtracks.com/movie_soundtracks/terminator-2-judgment-day-soundtrack-complete-by-brad-fiedel/

I shared it HERE on purpose so it doesn�t just pop up on the internet like that, as we need an account to DL. Now it�s out in the open...

The owner of that site has at least one sockpuppet account here and is able to see/access anything openly posted. He is actually quite notorious for doing so. Basically it was only a matter of time.

Lockdown
09-28-2018, 07:04 AM
And how would a new user such as yourself know all of this? :)

Sunshower
09-28-2018, 07:12 AM
Don't know about Bladerunner

There was a re-recording of the Blade Runner score by Edgar Rothermich to celebrate the films 30th anniversary. It's still not the complete OST unfortunately.

Raenius
09-28-2018, 07:21 AM
You really didn't think that openly sharing something on the biggest pirating film music / video games / anime forums, it would not appear elsewhere?

That�s not the point. I shared it here, of course it�s grabbed. That�s the intention. Asking before it�s posted elsewhere would be nice. That�s the principle and how I roll.


The owner of that site has at least one sockpuppet account here and is able to see/access anything openly posted. He is actually quite notorious for doing so. Basically it was only a matter of time.


And how would a new user such as yourself know all of this? :)

On the other hand: Why wouldn�t he?

darth2602
09-28-2018, 09:02 AM
for a good youtube extartion, use firefox + youtube video and audio downloader (or video download helper)

worldcup94
09-28-2018, 11:28 AM
Thanks

dean1700
09-28-2018, 12:09 PM
They also said the music to Conan The Barbarian and Back To The Future were lost as well but they found them. T2 isn't lost permanently. They just don't know where the tapes are.


.....Brad Fiedel has said that the original music is lost.

danhalluk
09-28-2018, 01:00 PM
They also said the music to Conan The Barbarian and Back To The Future were lost as well but they found them. T2 isn't lost permanently. They just don't know where the tapes are.

Some things go missing indefinitely though, right? While it could surface, it's been 27 years and I'd rather have re-recorded material like the above than hold my breath forever.

darkknight1978
09-28-2018, 10:39 PM
Thank you for sharing this and taking the time to upload it for us to enjoy, Raenius. It's greatly appreciated!

Gave you some positive rep and rated the thread 5 stars. Figure it's the very least one can do on here.

ggctuk2005
09-28-2018, 10:54 PM
Some things go missing indefinitely though, right? While it could surface, it's been 27 years and I'd rather have re-recorded material like the above than hold my breath forever.

Apparently they were found by the time of the remastered release and the company wanted to do an expanded release but Fiedel turned them down.

uruka
09-28-2018, 11:15 PM
I had actually done my own edit and was going to release it here as well. Mainly the only differences in my was that I ripped the main titles from the bluray so its the correct mix and included the end credits mix of the theme as well as the 3 tracks from the Terminator 2 3D show that have surfaced. Ill have to give your edit a listen.

DAKoftheOTA
09-28-2018, 11:27 PM
I had actually done my own edit and was going to release it here as well. Mainly the only differences in my was that I ripped the main titles from the bluray so its the correct mix and included the end credits mix of the theme as well as the 3 tracks from the Terminator 2 3D show that have surfaced. Ill have to give your edit a listen.

I would absolutely love to hear your edits please :D

Raenius
09-28-2018, 11:55 PM
I had actually done my own edit and was going to release it here as well. Mainly the only differences in my was that I ripped the main titles from the bluray so its the correct mix and included the end credits mix of the theme as well as the 3 tracks from the Terminator 2 3D show that have surfaced. Ill have to give your edit a listen.


I would absolutely love to hear your edits please :D

This and would absolutely add it to mine. :)

symetrisg
09-29-2018, 12:09 AM
Did you create this case? I love it, how can I get a copy of the artwork?

nickknight50
09-29-2018, 02:44 AM
And how would a new user such as yourself know all of this? :)


I can read?

templar007
09-29-2018, 03:46 AM
Wow - Many thanks for this... Somehow I sold the VS CD I had in the 90's and could find anything to replace it. THANKS AGAIN !

Plissken1138
09-29-2018, 06:40 AM
Hey Raenius, for your eventual future re-do's of this release, you might consider LosslessCut (https://sanet.ws/blogs/islamayman/losslesscut_portable.2710545.html), another nice tool for cutting/trimming of audio/video files without re-encoding. I've just discovered it and it's much better than one I've mentioned previously.

edit: or get the latest release from Github (https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut/releases?after=v1.2.1)

daypass
09-29-2018, 07:29 AM
Would love LOSSLESS for the next edition. TYVM!

nickknight50
09-29-2018, 07:37 AM
Would love LOSSLESS for the next edition. TYVM!

As he explained, he cannot put up ;ossless at this time. Python Blue has not made the source files available so the YouTube rip is all that is available.

KRCG
09-29-2018, 10:53 AM
Great Stuff, finally a SFX free complete!! Question, are all of the synth elements used from the library film mix accurate? I notice some differences (mainly percussion). I don't know how accurate the libraries are, but if they are exact copies of what BF used, there are definitely differences. Nonetheless, for a recreation this is awesome work and I'm happy with the results. Thanks for sharing!

worldcup94
09-29-2018, 11:57 AM
I had actually done my own edit and was going to release it here as well. Mainly the only differences in my was that I ripped the main titles from the bluray so its the correct mix and included the end credits mix of the theme as well as the 3 tracks from the Terminator 2 3D show that have surfaced. Ill have to give your edit a listen.

I encourage you to post it in the forum please :-)))

Danny888
09-29-2018, 01:40 PM
Thanks.

ImixVega
09-29-2018, 11:22 PM
Awsome!!
THX

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
09-30-2018, 02:57 AM
Hey Raenius, for your eventual future re-do's of this release, you might consider LosslessCut (https://sanet.ws/blogs/islamayman/losslesscut_portable.2710545.html), another nice tool for cutting/trimming of audio/video files without re-encoding. I've just discovered it and it's much better than one I've mentioned previously.

edit: or get the latest release from Github (https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut/releases?after=v1.2.1)

+1 There's not a lot of lossless processing for lossy codecs, but they're worth looking for to avoid lossy transcoding.
Editing and converting so many times in lossy (even if you use lossless intermediates), is just as bad as re-compressing a JPEG (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzhxP-pdos).

symetrisg
09-30-2018, 03:42 AM
I really like the Cyberdyne artwork with the logo, how can I get it

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Hopefully Python Blue will do a full recreation

the marvin
09-30-2018, 07:12 AM
Thanks!

oyeluque
09-30-2018, 07:51 AM
Thank you for sharing!
I am looking forward to having the art too.

danhalluk
09-30-2018, 10:08 PM
Apparently they were found by the time of the remastered release and the company wanted to do an expanded release but Fiedel turned them down.

It's possible. I remember him saying in an interview once that everything that needed releasing was on the 1991 album. So he's unlikely to be supportive of an expanded release. Fingers crossed for LLL/Intrada getting the rights.

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I had actually done my own edit and was going to release it here as well. Mainly the only differences in my was that I ripped the main titles from the bluray so its the correct mix and included the end credits mix of the theme as well as the 3 tracks from the Terminator 2 3D show that have surfaced. Ill have to give your edit a listen.

I'd be keen to give this a listen also! :)

Yaeko Mitamura
09-30-2018, 10:11 PM
It's time to post the original complete session.

Yes please.

symetrisg
09-30-2018, 10:11 PM
Here is a version I did, longer tracks and included Guns N Roses, Dwight Yoakam and George Thorogood. Again its pretty much the same stuff, I just edited some of the tracks together such as I put Target Acquired, Galleria and The Tire as one solid rack and Sarah at Pescadero as one track, etc plus a simple cover art I made https://mega.nz/#F!npsG3Y7Q!KUkZSp4pOG4Y3G2byaWRug

Raenius
10-01-2018, 06:55 AM
Did you create this case? I love it, how can I get a copy of the artwork?

I made the slipcase, yes. Cardboard and self-adhesive foil was used for it. Shipping it would be possible, but probably dangerous. ;)


Hey Raenius, for your eventual future re-do's of this release, you might consider LosslessCut (https://sanet.ws/blogs/islamayman/losslesscut_portable.2710545.html), another nice tool for cutting/trimming of audio/video files without re-encoding. I've just discovered it and it's much better than one I've mentioned previously.

edit: or get the latest release from Github (https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut/releases?after=v1.2.1)

If I ever get the actual files, I would. Thing is that I don�t get the FLAC love over here. My phone always converts all FLAC & M4A files (don�t kill me if I said something wrong here), so I have no use for that either way. But on the next revision, if I�d get them...yeah. And I totally will add that program to my stuff. Much appreciated.


Would love LOSSLESS for the next edition. TYVM!

Please see above. Otherwise: Thank you too. :)


As he explained, he cannot put up ;ossless at this time. Python Blue has not made the source files available so the YouTube rip is all that is available.

This.


Great Stuff, finally a SFX free complete!! Question, are all of the synth elements used from the library film mix accurate? I notice some differences (mainly percussion). I don't know how accurate the libraries are, but if they are exact copies of what BF used, there are definitely differences. Nonetheless, for a recreation this is awesome work and I'm happy with the results. Thanks for sharing!

He did the digitized files from the synths Brad used. A full list was in the description of a video, but it since has been taken down by partners of Studio Canal.


I encourage you to post it in the forum please :-)))

2nd


+1 There's not a lot of lossless processing for lossy codecs, but they're worth looking for to avoid lossy transcoding.
Editing and converting so many times in lossy (even if you use lossless intermediates), is just as bad as re-compressing a JPEG (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzhxP-pdos).

Interesting to know and +2


It's possible. I remember him saying in an interview once that everything that needed releasing was on the 1991 album. So he's unlikely to be supportive of an expanded release. Fingers crossed for LLL/Intrada getting the rights.

Intrada to the rescue.

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I'd be keen to give this a listen also! :)

2nd


Here is a version I did, longer tracks and included Guns N Roses, Dwight Yoakam and George Thorogood. Again its pretty much the same stuff, I just edited some of the tracks together such as I put Target Acquired, Galleria and The Tire as one solid rack and Sarah at Pescadero as one track, etc plus a simple cover art I made https://mega.nz/#F!npsG3Y7Q!KUkZSp4pOG4Y3G2byaWRug

Will check later.

Thanks again, everybody. Also for the reps. Coverset V1 is coming along nicely and revisioned V2 and V3 is in the works.
Also: In the future I will password it and only those that ask get it.
I want to try and be sure it won�t get as spread as before.

Plissken1138
10-01-2018, 07:44 AM
If I ever get the actual files, I would. Thing is that I don�t get the FLAC love over here. My phone always converts all FLAC & M4A files (don�t kill me if I said something wrong here), so I have no use for that either way. But on the next revision, if I�d get them...yeah. And I totally will add that program to my stuff. Much appreciated.

No, no, I didn't mean the actual files from PB, and not insisting on FLAC... That matter is already resolved :) I meant the rips you get from Youtube.
With youtube-dl (youtube-dl-gui-0.4-win-portable is my preferred) set to get default stream you can get exactly what's been uploaded to YT (in PB's case *.opus and *.aac), and just split the files with that tool. This might seem as nitpicking, but if you can avoid further degradation of already compressed files from YT why wouldn't you, right?

Raenius
10-01-2018, 08:49 AM
No, no, I didn't mean the actual files from PB, and not insisting on FLAC... That matter is already resolved :) I meant the rips you get from Youtube.
With youtube-dl (youtube-dl-gui-0.4-win-portable is my preferred) set to get default stream you can get exactly what's been uploaded to YT (in PB's case *.opus and *.aac), and just split the files with that tool. This might seem as nitpicking, but if you can avoid further degradation of already compressed files from YT why wouldn't you, right?

Oh, no. Of course you�re right.
But I�m keeping all options open. Unfortunately he ceased contact. I wrote him...let me thing...last week? Maybe the the one before? And haven�t gotten a response yet, so files are out of the question, I presume.
But like I said: Will definitely look into that program and check it, once the new tunes turn up. :)

Herrmannesque
10-01-2018, 09:14 AM
The mediafire link doesn't seem to be working right for me. It says one of the tracks might be available for purchase on Amazon and denies the download. Haven't seen that before...

Raenius
10-01-2018, 09:56 AM
The mediafire link doesn't seem to be working right for me. It says one of the tracks might be available for purchase on Amazon and denies the download. Haven't seen that before...

Well, there are the original tracks interspliced there and it�s also a temporary link. It�s becoming inactive after a few days...

Scorehunter01
10-04-2018, 03:02 AM
Ok folks hate to ask but were can we get the Complete Score for The TERMINATOR 1? There is really cues missing from The Definitive Edition, I listened to it and man never noticed.
If anybody could help I would be really thankful, if not NP. Everyone Have a Great Week!

Raenius
10-04-2018, 05:19 AM
Ok folks hate to ask but were can we get the Complete Score for The TERMINATOR 1? There is really cues missing from The Definitive Edition, I listened to it and man never noticed.
If anybody could help I would be really thankful, if not NP. Everyone Have a Great Week!

I dunno, man. I suppose it�s the same situation as with T2. All the pieces Brad needed are in the score and so that�s what was released. My guess...

DylanZimmer
10-04-2018, 08:26 AM
hey Raenius, how long might it be before we see the other two tracks, at a generous guess?

codyofgvs
10-04-2018, 12:43 PM
I would like a link!

danhalluk
10-04-2018, 06:16 PM
Ok folks hate to ask but were can we get the Complete Score for The TERMINATOR 1? There is really cues missing from The Definitive Edition, I listened to it and man never noticed.
If anybody could help I would be really thankful, if not NP. Everyone Have a Great Week!

Are you sure the newer LP release that was co-produced by Fiedel doesn't have more music on it?

The_Bearded_One
10-05-2018, 05:11 AM
This is great!

Donnor
10-05-2018, 02:50 PM
Are you sure the newer LP release that was co-produced by Fiedel doesn't have more music on it? It does, but sadly it's missing music as well

Darth_Revan_II
10-05-2018, 07:23 PM
Just what I was looking for, thank you.

Raenius
10-05-2018, 10:32 PM
Just what I was looking for, thank you.

Did you have problems downloading it?!

Scorehunter01
10-06-2018, 03:25 AM
ok I just order The TERMINATOR the Milan Records re-issue release and I got to listen to it and was completely blown away! WOW so what is missing on that release?
As for the shared soundtrack on this thread I still can't stop listening to it, been jamming both!

Donnor
10-06-2018, 03:58 PM
WOW so what is missing on that release?

It drops "Tech Noir/Alley Chase" from the Edel release, it's missing the cue heard when Reese follows Sarah out of her building's garage, it micro-edits "Terminator Gets Guns", and it micro-edits "Police Station & Escape"

symetrisg
10-06-2018, 11:20 PM
Now the next question is; Does anyone have the extra music from True Lies that is not on the score?

ggctuk2005
10-07-2018, 09:45 PM
It drops "Tech Noir/Alley Chase" from the Edel release, it's missing the cue heard when Reese follows Sarah out of her building's garage, it micro-edits "Terminator Gets Guns", and it micro-edits "Police Station & Escape"

Plus "Reese Dreams Of Future War" a bit.

uruka
10-29-2018, 09:14 PM
I would absolutely love to hear your edits please :D

I will post it here soon then!

jedisaurus
10-30-2018, 02:04 PM
This is pretty great! excellent work!! A few tracks aren't film versions however.... :) Small section where T-800 saves Sarah from the hospital staff ("Come with me if you want to live"), Sarah's Nightmare needs to delete the first rumble in the track, Tanker Chase needs sections from Escape from hospital? and other sections. This is fantastic though, a great listen and edit. This is not a complaint just an observation. Would it be ok if I used this to improve my edit, with songs as well? Very very good job!

FoxHound323
10-31-2018, 06:19 AM
Could I have the link as well? Thanks!

DylanZimmer
11-10-2018, 08:51 AM
It's been a while. What's the status on the two missing cues?

danhalluk
11-10-2018, 01:36 PM
It's been a while. What's the status on the two missing cues?

Seconded. Need those final cues in my life.

wayfarer
11-10-2018, 06:50 PM
Would be grateful for the link, too :-)

thetrooper24
11-10-2018, 07:04 PM
Could I have the link as well? Thanks!

b5historyman
11-24-2018, 11:32 PM
Am I going blind, are there any links posted on this thread or do we pm

Power Junkie
11-24-2018, 11:53 PM
I'd appreciate the links as well when you get a chance!

CalicoNoir
11-25-2018, 09:30 AM
Bump, Varese Sarabande thread... have to be deleted permanently!

codyofgvs
11-25-2018, 03:35 PM
Isnt a good chunk of this score a recreation?

DAKoftheOTA
11-25-2018, 04:39 PM
Bump, Varese Sarabande thread... have to be deleted permanently!

Nice try. Varese no longer owns the rights, it�s now Universal Music Group. Take a hike.

mallet
11-25-2018, 04:42 PM
Culd you send me the link?

DjawadiFan
11-25-2018, 05:33 PM
I'd like to listen to this set.
Thanks.

General Zod
11-25-2018, 06:37 PM
Can you please send me the link as well? PM also sent!

Makoy
11-25-2018, 07:12 PM
I'd love a link! Thank you in advance!! :)

Piggly Wiggly
11-25-2018, 09:12 PM
This has to be labeled more clearly. What you have here is a reconstruction, and no complete score.

Sean Kadlec1
12-10-2018, 08:14 AM
Link please?

Manfonse
12-10-2018, 09:39 AM
Please may I have a link for this. Thanks

cacahead
12-10-2018, 10:10 AM
If anybody or the original author of this post has a link I would be insanely grateful. Thanks

hdmusicman
12-10-2018, 05:22 PM
May I have a link for this. Thanks

poetofpiano
12-13-2018, 08:08 AM
I would love a link. Thank you so much in advance!

juelz
12-13-2018, 08:45 AM
Can you send me a link too, please?
Thank you.

cybellio
12-13-2018, 07:03 PM
Hello and OMG. The work you've done is amazing. Could I Have a link please? Thank you so much :).

D1ngus
12-13-2018, 10:05 PM
Would love to have the links

metaluna mutant
12-13-2018, 11:18 PM
I'd like a link to this also, thanks!

jedisaurus
12-14-2018, 05:53 PM
at least its better than my edit. I think DakoftheOta (sp) threw up for days after attempting to listen to mine. Good effort.

ArcAngel7459
12-15-2018, 05:22 PM
Can I get a link please?

SpiderRock88
12-15-2018, 08:41 PM
would love a link. one of my favorite movies of all time!

Speeches Left Unsaid
12-15-2018, 08:45 PM
Love a link

Smithers123
01-08-2019, 07:50 AM
Can you send me a link too? Thank you in advance!

ostrogorsky
01-08-2019, 09:37 AM
Hello! I'd like a link to please! Thank you!

cacahead
01-08-2019, 10:36 AM
would appreciate a link a lot. one of my favorite movies of all time!thanks!

westernjunkie
01-08-2019, 11:15 AM
Would you please be so kind and send me a link for this, thank you!

Victor007
01-08-2019, 04:06 PM
Can you send me a link too, please?
Thank you.

drunkenboxer
01-10-2019, 08:38 PM
I'd love a link, as well :)

JohnDoa
01-10-2019, 09:19 PM
Yes, I would appreciate a link.

Theel
01-12-2019, 04:38 AM
I'd also love a link. Thanks for going to so much trouble, much appreciated.

poetofpiano
01-12-2019, 06:51 AM
I would love a link. Thank you so much in advance!

mAnah3.0
01-12-2019, 11:49 AM
I'd love a link. Thanks!

hgohari73
01-13-2019, 12:33 AM
can you also send me the link as well please? thanks

DylanZimmer
01-13-2019, 01:44 AM
Feels like you and Python Blue dropped off the face of the earth... or were you terminated?

Raenius
01-26-2019, 10:29 PM
Sorry, guys. Was gone for a bit. Link in first post.

pappy81963a
01-27-2019, 06:57 AM
Thank you very much.

filmmusicfreak1981
01-27-2019, 11:01 AM
Absolutely amazing! You rock dude!!!!

rpz
01-27-2019, 05:16 PM
VERY cool! Thank you for this!

wayfarer
01-28-2019, 07:09 PM
I asked for the link, didn't get it, but now I have it. And...I like it! Thanks for the share! T2 fans should not be disappointed. :-)

cacahead
01-29-2019, 04:52 PM
Superb! THanks!

sith7
01-29-2019, 06:42 PM
Just curious about the stand in versions for "The War Against The Machines" and Tanker Chase. Any idea when the Python Blue versions will be available? The work he's done for this is just amazing.

Raenius
01-29-2019, 10:22 PM
Just curious about the stand in versions for "The War Against The Machines" and Tanker Chase. Any idea when the Python Blue versions will be available? The work he's done for this is just amazing.

Thank you and sorry, I don�t know.
I checked his channel last week and there was nothing new. :/

ESTEBAN-ZIA
02-13-2019, 09:50 PM
The more T2, the merrier!! Thanks Raenius

Raenius
02-14-2019, 10:26 AM
The more T2, the merrier!! Thanks Raenius

Your welcome, man. Thank you. :)

Kadron
05-25-2019, 11:05 AM
Just a heads up, but Python Blue now also created the full tanker chase scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF2d7vn3YM0

danhalluk
05-25-2019, 11:30 AM
Just a heads up, but Python Blue now also created the full tanker chase scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF2d7vn3YM0

Thanks for the heads up. Just DLed and added it to my copy.

Prince Jay
05-26-2019, 06:26 AM
Had a little bit of time thinking this cover through.....

The first of its kind, and by Jove, it was a bit tricky.....


Quantum16
05-28-2019, 11:33 PM
Sick cover man!!!!

DAKoftheOTA
05-29-2019, 01:37 AM
Had a little bit of time thinking this cover through.....

The first of its kind, and by Jove, it was a bit tricky.....



Very cool. Out of curiosity, what’s with the foreign language?

Prince Jay
05-29-2019, 01:49 AM
I saw a design like this(not the terminator style) on a T-shirt.... wondered how it would look if I did the same thing, just terminator style

Quantum16
05-29-2019, 01:52 AM
I'm no expert but it looks like Japanese... can anyone read this? For all we know it says something offensive, like "Terminator 3 is the best Terminator film"

Prince Jay
05-29-2019, 01:53 AM
It’s just “Terminator Judgement Day” in Japanese

simarojo
05-29-2019, 10:35 AM
...this Score version here of Terminator II
really deserves are FLAC upload!!!
!!!! AMAZING !!!!

tooheen
06-13-2019, 03:48 AM
Thanks.

Admiral_Young98
07-12-2019, 06:51 PM
Thank you!

sith7
08-18-2019, 04:39 PM
Any more info on "War Against The Machines" or "Tanker Chase" ? Would love to hear his covers of both.