mosesdallama
05-12-2005, 08:01 AM
hey im makin a post about heavy metal music.. heavy metal is not to be mistaken for light metal (metalica) or death metal (marilyn manson). Heavy metal is heavier than light metal and not as heavy as death metal. and example pf heavy metal bands are: korn, system of a down, disturbed.
My fave band is system of a down but if anyone knows of some heavy metal bands that are really heavy but not like death kinda heavy then let me know and ill dl some songs

Ska
05-12-2005, 08:02 AM
System of a down suck. But i like marilyn manson.

TK
05-12-2005, 08:18 AM
hey im makin a post about heavy metal music.. heavy metal is not to be mistaken for light metal (metalica) or death metal (marilyn manson). Heavy metal is heavier than light metal and not as heavy as death metal. and example pf heavy metal bands are: korn, system of a down, disturbed.

You should learn about a musical genre before you start talking about it!

The Ricky
05-12-2005, 08:23 AM
I think someone needs an education in metal.

First of all there are many different catagories in metal. The ones I'll talk about are Death, Thrash, Black, and Nu.

Thrash Metal is a very fast and agressive type of metal. Such Thrash bands would include Ministry, Testament, Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax, and Megadeth.

Death Metal is a very dark and hateful form of thrash, such bands include Cannibal Corpse, Dying Fetus, Morbid Angel, and Behemoth.

Black Metal is a very creepy, epic, and pure evil form of metal. Some bands would include Venom, Mayhem, Emperor, Cradle of Filth, Darkthrone, Haemoth, and Dimmu Borgir.

Nu Metal is a hybrid of various elements of music combined with 7-string guitars and usually whiney lyrics. Various bands include KoRn, Papa Roach, Limp Bizkit, System of a Down, Drowning Pool, Slipknot, and Marilyn Manson.

Besides I started a metal thread a month back, go look for that.

Prak
05-12-2005, 08:38 AM
hey im makin a post about heavy metal music.. heavy metal is not to be mistaken for light metal (metalica) or death metal (marilyn manson). Heavy metal is heavier than light metal and not as heavy as death metal. and example pf heavy metal bands are: korn, system of a down, disturbed.
My fave band is system of a down but if anyone knows of some heavy metal bands that are really heavy but not like death kinda heavy then let me know and ill dl some songs

As my brother says, this is proof that Darwin was right.

TK
05-12-2005, 08:55 AM
I think someone needs an education in metal.


No no no no no don't even... damn it.

mosesdallama
05-12-2005, 09:16 AM
i see :-\ i didnt know that makin this would make ppl angry... when i say stuff like light metal heavy metal and death metal i dont mean thats like ACTUAL music genres, i meant that thats how I see metal.. that was just my opinion on metal, not my understanding of it.

i made this thread because i couldnt find any metal threads in the music section and i didnt think there'd be any metal threads in the final fantasy sections... im sorry for the inconvinience of this thread.

The Ricky
05-12-2005, 09:23 AM
No no no no no don't even... damn it.

Alright, I'll stop, I'll stop. Jesus TK calm down. I did learn some restraint. It's not like I was gonna write another "Emo Extermination."

Dog_eat_Dog
05-12-2005, 05:56 PM
korn and system of a down..heavie metal?? gimme a break. anyway...they are both cool bands...in fact they are the only nu metal bands i do listen to.
btw power metal is cool metal genre too..check out bands like hammerfall and dragonforce \m/

MidgarInRuins
05-12-2005, 06:23 PM
My fave band is Killswitch Engage.. They are a great metal band!

Also worth a look are: In Flames, Soilwork, Children of Bodom, Dimmu Borgir..


MIR

Butch
05-13-2005, 02:04 AM
i like independant HM bands (ie Neskimos)

Dog_eat_Dog
05-13-2005, 09:40 PM
i saw dimmu once,in my home town. they were only popular in norway at that time. and i wasn't 18...and im still not 18..but i was able to sneak my self in(hehe)

TK
05-13-2005, 10:16 PM
If you have to listen to metal, you should listen to...

THE SEX MACHINEGUNS!

Marceline
05-14-2005, 12:12 AM
I like Cannibal Corpse. ; ;

I don't really care for other bands that sound similar though, which is weird!

KREAYSHAWN
05-14-2005, 01:33 AM
I don't see why System of A Down get lumped in with all the incredibly dire bands like Korn. They're nowhere near as bad, and sound markedly different. To me. =/

Sleep
05-14-2005, 01:35 AM
The Smiths is Heavy Metal

TK
05-14-2005, 04:53 AM
I don't see why System of A Down get lumped in with all the incredibly dire bands like Korn. They're nowhere near as bad, and sound markedly different. To me. =/

I'm all about System of a Down, but I don't know what they're doing in this thread as there is really nothing metal about them. They're far closer to punk/hardcore (am I the only one who hears the intense Dead Kennedys influence?) if you want to categorize them as something.

mosesdallama
05-14-2005, 10:27 AM
I'm all about System of a Down, but I don't know what they're doing in this thread as there is really nothing metal about them. They're far closer to punk/hardcore (am I the only one who hears the intense Dead Kennedys influence?) if you want to categorize them as something.


punk my ass biatchay! have you even heard the NAME of the band? jebus you should listen to some of their songs before you catagorize them! i suggest litening to the songs "chik'n'stu", "needles", "P.L.U.C.K" and "plastic jesus"

Toastie!
05-14-2005, 11:43 AM
Why did you have a bunch of System of a Down songs and then have a song that Jello Biafra sang(Plastic jesus)?

Zuckerbaby
05-14-2005, 12:58 PM
haha this is funny, I once tried to classify the types of metal in my head and it hurt because you think you got them all then there are those bands that won't fit..... srry just had to say that anyways a good ummm "classic metal" band is Man'O'War not sure what the correct class is but they are along the lines of iron maiden

FearFactoryFan
05-16-2005, 04:19 AM
Does anyone actually like the newer System of a Down songs in comparison to the early songs? I used to like them a lot but Steal This Album kinda killed it for me. It had its good and its bad, but in my oppinion the newer stuff doesnt nearly own up to the old stuff of "System of a Down" and "Toxicity".

TK
05-16-2005, 04:38 AM
punk my ass biatchay! have you even heard the NAME of the band? jebus you should listen to some of their songs before you catagorize them! i suggest litening to the songs "chik'n'stu", "needles", "P.L.U.C.K" and "plastic jesus"

You are an idiot who has no conception of what metal actually is. I've listened to lots of System of a Down and I know a hell of a lot more about classic metal AND punk than you, and to anyone with a remotely well trained ear, System of a Down sounds nothing like metal at all. "Metal" doesn't mean "there are guitars with heavy distortion."

Toastie!
05-16-2005, 08:44 AM
You are an idiot who has no conception of what metal actually is. I've listened to lots of System of a Down and I know a hell of a lot more about classic metal AND punk than you, and to anyone with a remotely well trained ear, System of a Down sounds nothing like metal at all. "Metal" doesn't mean "there are guitars with heavy distortion."

Yeah you tell him!

Chilover
05-16-2005, 06:04 PM
Metal is O.k. Personally I think it's kind of boring but there are a few exeptions of course.

Nein
05-22-2005, 11:36 PM
Metal is O.k. Personally I think it's kind of boring but there are a few exeptions of course.

Metal? Boring? :-(

mosesdallama
05-23-2005, 11:12 AM
Why did you have a bunch of System of a Down songs and then have a song that Jello Biafra sang(Plastic jesus)?

Jello Biafra sang that? :confused: lol, i should prob BUY the albums instead of dl the songs cos dl can be misleading :-P i should prob do some research on metal and crap.. but i wont cos i dont give a crap what anyone else says or how its classified on the net and crap... music is music, and people might classify certain music diferently than its "technically" classified.. id rather look at the bands i like as metal and i dont want to take crappy advice from people who think they know stuff just cos they've studied it alot.. id rather trust ma own brain than read someone elses (sorry if i seemed to change my opinon several times just then :-P)

TK
05-23-2005, 03:04 PM
Hey man, do whatever the fuck you want. You can call fucking Michael Bolton metal if you want to. Just be prepared to get called an idiot if you let anybody know.

Don't act like I'm the snob here, though. I just made a completely unmalicious statement, and you're the one who came in with the "WTF U R WRONG" stuff.

broken sword 1001
05-23-2005, 03:10 PM
slipknot is the best

TK
05-23-2005, 03:49 PM
Well, I'd contest that, but I wouldn't want to muck with you.

mrmonkeyman
05-23-2005, 04:11 PM
I'm all about System of a Down, but I don't know what they're doing in this thread as there is really nothing metal about them. They're far closer to punk/hardcore (am I the only one who hears the intense Dead Kennedys influence?) if you want to categorize them as something.
Sorry TK, you're wrong there. They're...eh...probably somewhere between Heavy and Nu Metal. With a little bit of experimental crap in there for good fun. They're not punk or hardcore. Their vocals are far too clean and the songs too...straight? Is that even the word? I dunno, maybe I mean formulaic. They're just not as random as punk/hardcore stuff.

I classify them as Heavy Metal, because they're too clever to be consider Nu. They're also heavier than I'd consider a lot of punk, honestly.

Chilover
05-23-2005, 06:27 PM
Since this is the metal thread for the moment, I just need to ask because my beau brought this up, is it o.k. to forbid metal from a Christian school but encourage rap that has more crap in it than metal?!! (I think mebe all rock is banned...mebe...)
You also can't even talk about it!!

TK
05-23-2005, 10:06 PM
Sorry TK, you're wrong there. They're...eh...probably somewhere between Heavy and Nu Metal. With a little bit of experimental crap in there for good fun. They're not punk or hardcore. Their vocals are far too clean and the songs too...straight? Is that even the word? I dunno, maybe I mean formulaic. They're just not as random as punk/hardcore stuff.

I classify them as Heavy Metal, because they're too clever to be consider Nu. They're also heavier than I'd consider a lot of punk, honestly.

How much punk... or hardcore, for that matter... do you really listen to? I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "random," but I'm guessing you mean lacking in formal structure, in which case you'd be spot on about hardcore but dead wrong about punk. Punk is some of the most repetitive, structured music around, and is the exact opposite of random. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about, really.

The only thing remotely "metal" sounding about SoaD is the "heavy" sound of their guitars. The simplicity of the music (please don't try to tell me it's complicated, it's not even close), the power chord usage, and yes, the song structure is far closer to punk than it is to metal. Hell, even the lyrics are much more characteristic of punk. Metal is characterized by an intense focus on lead guitar and a totally different style of rhythm than punk, and SoaD sound nothing like it. Seriously, take two quintessential bands of each genre, say Slayer and the Dead Kennedys, and listen to them side by side. Then put on SoaD, and tell me which one it sounds closer to. I guarantee it won't be Slayer.

I didn't really mean I'd throw them in the "punk" category, though. I don't think they belong there. Notice how I said "they're far closer" rather than "they belong in." I'm just saying if you have to categorize them, that's the closest heavily used genre. Because it is.

Chilover
05-24-2005, 12:46 AM
Metal? Boring? :-(
Well not to say boring but it doesn't interest me well, but I have the highest respect for it. Like Fear Factory Fan told me, it is so comlex and they do things that other preformers don't. Mebe I don't listen to the right kind?...

Nein
05-24-2005, 01:27 AM
slipknot is the best

true...true....haha

mrmonkeyman
05-24-2005, 01:48 AM
How much punk... or hardcore, for that matter... do you really listen to? I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "random," but I'm guessing you mean lacking in formal structure, in which case you'd be spot on about hardcore but dead wrong about punk. Punk is some of the most repetitive, structured music around, and is the exact opposite of random. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about, really.

The only thing remotely "metal" sounding about SoaD is the "heavy" sound of their guitars. The simplicity of the music (please don't try to tell me it's complicated, it's not even close), the power chord usage, and yes, the song structure is far closer to punk than it is to metal. Hell, even the lyrics are much more characteristic of punk. Metal is characterized by an intense focus on lead guitar and a totally different style of rhythm than punk, and SoaD sound nothing like it. Seriously, take two quintessential bands of each genre, say Slayer and the Dead Kennedys, and listen to them side by side. Then put on SoaD, and tell me which one it sounds closer to. I guarantee it won't be Slayer.

I didn't really mean I'd throw them in the "punk" category, though. I don't think they belong there. Notice how I said "they're far closer" rather than "they belong in." I'm just saying if you have to categorize them, that's the closest heavily used genre. Because it is.
And I'm gonna ask you, straight up, how much metal you listen to. Because then we can both admit we're a little uneducated about eachother's genres and make peace.

Basically, Slayer aren't a lot like a lot of metal. Compare them to say, Metallica, and even then they're not THAT similar. Hell, they're thrash metal, of a kind that really doesn't exist anymore.

And I'd say that Metallica were more the quintessential (yes, probably sp, I'm tired and my ears are popping) band of the genre - and in this case, SOAD sound far more like them than TDK. Nine Inch Nails are another one, though they sit a bit too close to industrial at times, but SoAD again have similarities to them. I'd say they're trying to masquerade as experimental metal � la faith no more without the chops, and thus just sound (to me, at least, and I've listened to both a considerable amount) like a derivative, wacky Metallica. Except even more simplistic.

Sabbath could also be - probably more readily - considered quintessencial too, and in that case, they've influenced most of metal, and most definitely SOAD.

But this is besides the point. Those two bands are far more similiar and influential upon SOAD than the dead kennedys - if you have some more examples I'll consider them. SOAD are metal, as weak and simple as their music can be at times. They are not punk. If we're going to talk style and rhythm, then we're going to get into the semantics of genre, and bust open an entire can of worms that I'd rather would stay shut. You could put together different bands from different genres with an arbitrary third party and say "which does this sound similar to," then declare the third party of the closest genre...but that wouldn't prove much.

Nein
05-24-2005, 02:30 AM
Well not to say boring but it doesn't interest me well, but I have the highest respect for it. Like Fear Factory Fan told me, it is so comlex and they do things that other preformers don't. Mebe I don't listen to the right kind?...

No, no, I was just surprised...haha, its absolutely fine that you don't like it..btw, what bands have you listened to?

Crim
05-24-2005, 08:52 AM
I hate it!

mosesdallama
05-24-2005, 09:06 AM
Lexie, get a life.. i made this thread becuase i like metal and i believe that soad falls into the catagory of metal.. i didnt make this thread to be insulted by someone who probably reads dictionarys 24/7 and think they know everything... and i doubt id get called an idiot because of my opinion.. and my opinion isnt even farfetched.. im calling a metal band, metal. im not calling a rap band metal or anything like that. and soad isnt the only metal band i listen 2 either.. i listen to disturbed, rammstein, korn and other stuff like that... and you can go ahead and tell me that none of them are metal either but i dont give a shit cos when i listen to em, i hear metal bands!

mrmonkeyman
05-24-2005, 01:18 PM
Disturbed are nu metal, rammstein are industrial, korn are nu metal.
You listen to the arse-ends of metal. You do not listen to heavy metal if these are the bands you listen to.

mosesdallama
05-24-2005, 01:30 PM
i know that im not listenin to heavy metal.. i didnt say heavy ONCE in my last post

mrmonkeyman
05-24-2005, 01:53 PM
i know that im not listenin to heavy metal.. i didnt say heavy ONCE in my last post
hey im makin a post about heavy metal music.. heavy metal is not to be mistaken for light metal (metalica) or death metal (marilyn manson). Heavy metal is heavier than light metal and not as heavy as death metal. and example pf heavy metal bands are: korn, system of a down, disturbed.
My mistake.

Dog_eat_Dog
05-24-2005, 02:33 PM
i asked a dude what kinda music he listened to.and he said:"mostly heavie metal,like limp bizkit and korn...but sometimes i listen to some SOFT-METAL like metallica or slayer".
thats have to be one of the stupiest things ive ever heard. i was laughing in 10min...one of the greatest laugh's i have ever had.:)

TK
05-24-2005, 05:51 PM
And I'm gonna ask you, straight up, how much metal you listen to. Because then we can both admit we're a little uneducated about eachother's genres and make peace.

I have listened to quite a bit more metal than I would ever care to, partly in my own explorations of music and partly because of all the people I've known who were into it. I even listen to a small ammount of it, every now and then, when I happen to be in the mood. A rare occurance, I assue you.


Basically, Slayer aren't a lot like a lot of metal. Compare them to say, Metallica, and even then they're not THAT similar. Hell, they're thrash metal, of a kind that really doesn't exist anymore. And I'd say that Metallica were more the quintessential (yes, probably sp, I'm tired and my ears are popping) band of the genre - and in this case, SOAD sound far more like them than TDK.

Metallica and Slayer are a lot closer to each other than most metal bands, I'd say. At least older Metallica.

Obviously, it depends a lot which song you're listening to as SoaD tend to vary a lot. But they sure as hell don't sound anything like Metallica. I've never heard an SoaD song that I thought of as even similar to them. But really, Slayer was just the first really well known metal band I'm aware of. The same is true if you put Metallica in that comparison, or Iron Maiden, or Dragon Force, or Black Sabbath, or the fucking Sex Machineguns if you want. They don't even sound at all like "progressive" metal like Dream Theater.


Nine Inch Nails are another one, though they sit a bit too close to industrial at times, but SoAD again have similarities to them. I'd say they're trying to masquerade as experimental metal � la faith no more without the chops, and thus just sound (to me, at least, and I've listened to both a considerable amount) like a derivative, wacky Metallica. Except even more simplistic.

I really kind of worry when you start involving NIN. I have never met a person who was into metal who even liked NIN, let alone thought they were a part of the genre. All the kids I know who are into them are into Skinnypuppy and that sort of shit. There's nothing remotely metal about NIN.

When you involve too much "simplistic," it really isn't metal anymore. Metal's complex by nature. That's why "numetal" needed a new genre name, and why SoaD gets thrown in with them: Because they have the "heavy" and "dark" sound of metal, but none of the complexity or style. Only I don't think SoaD really belong in that category either, but they certainly belong there more than they do in traditional metal. However, I would venture to say that a LOT of "numetal" is closer to punk than it is to real metal. The two genres aren't even that different in the first place if you strip them down.


Sabbath could also be - probably more readily - considered quintessencial too, and in that case, they've influenced most of metal, and most definitely SOAD.

Sabbath has more or less influenced any band with powerful distorted guitars.


But this is besides the point. Those two bands are far more similiar and influential upon SOAD than the dead kennedys - if you have some more examples I'll consider them. SOAD are metal, as weak and simple as their music can be at times. They are not punk.

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't bend my words. I didn't say they were punk. If you didn't catch this in my last post, it's still there.


If we're going to talk style and rhythm, then we're going to get into the semantics of genre, and bust open an entire can of worms that I'd rather would stay shut. You could put together different bands from different genres with an arbitrary third party and say "which does this sound similar to," then declare the third party of the closest genre...but that wouldn't prove much.

What would prove much, then? Saying "no they aren't"?

And genres are nothing but semantics. Without them, they become nonexistant. If you don't want to get into them, there's not much more we can say than "nuh uh you're wrong."

mrmonkeyman
05-24-2005, 05:56 PM
I really kind of worry when you start involving NIN. I have never met a person who was into metal who even liked NIN, let alone thought they were a part of the genre. All the kids I know who are into them are into Skinnypuppy and that sort of shit. There's nothing remotely metal about NIN.Who the what in the who. Yes, I admit, they're far further towards Industrial, but listen to something like Getting Smaller and you'll see they're definitely partly metal.

And I reread your last post and revoke any accusation of you saying they were punk, my bad, my bad.

I'm not sure how to put SOAD into a genre, though. I see what you're getting at and in part agree, I just can't see them being that punky. Maybe I need to listen to more punk. Or maybe it's just that I didn't like that much punk to begin with and I'm in denial.

TK
05-24-2005, 06:05 PM
No harm done. I dunno, I wouldn't ever call them "punky." I just think they're closer to that than metal because of the simplicity and the song structures and stuff. I keep trying to think of something more appropriate and nothing comes up. I think they're one of those "inbetween" bands you can't really classify.

And as for NIN, I guess they undoubtedly have a metal aspect since all industrial more or less does. But I've just never even seen anybody associate them, so it stranged me out. But I mostly hear about NIN from my friend Cullen, who's really into industrial and hardcore, and kind of hates metal, so that's probably why.

mrmonkeyman
05-24-2005, 06:41 PM
No problem; seriously, I have weird tastes. I'll go quite happily from David Bowie to Immortal to Depeche Mode to Faith No More to some Star Wars music to NIN to QOTSA. The way I get into bands is when people offer me a loaner or I hear one track I like and so listen to their most recent album, working my way backwards through their stuff. Unless I find out they're concept artists, like Dream Theater. Bastards.

Chilover
05-24-2005, 07:44 PM
No, no, I was just surprised...haha, its absolutely fine that you don't like it..btw, what bands have you listened to?
I listen to anything rock exept emo. I still like metal just cuz of the fact that it is metal tho'. I really don't know many metal bands but I have listened to Mudvayne, Metallica,Cradle of Filth, Fear Factory, Six Feet Under,and some other ones that I can't quite remember. Oh since I am new to metal, I hope that I did not make any mistakes by posting a band that I said is metal but is not.

Dog_eat_Dog
05-24-2005, 11:41 PM
metallica isnt a pure trash metal band...kill'em all and st anger...and maybe ride the lightning can be put in the trash metal genre. wouldnt say that black album,justice,master(ok maybe a few songs like damage INC) is trash metal. hell...load and reload is closer to blues rock than it is to trash metal...seriously.

TK
05-25-2005, 12:22 AM
Why do you keep saying "trash metal"?

The Ricky
05-25-2005, 12:32 AM
metallica isnt a pure trash metal band...kill'em all and st anger...and maybe ride the lightning can be put in the trash metal genre. wouldnt say that black album,justice,master(ok maybe a few songs like damage INC) is trash metal. hell...load and reload is closer to blues rock than it is to trash metal...seriously.

Metallica, Slayer, and Megadeth started the thrash metal movement. If you listen to Metallica's Kill'em All, or Master of Puppets, you can hear why it's labeled thrash. Thier 90's stuff can be put into the progressive metal catagory.

But there are too many catagories to metal, even trying to define them is like trying to find WMDs in Iraq.

mosesdallama
05-25-2005, 06:51 AM
My mistake.

I said "in my last post".. like as in the LAST thing i posted. did i say "first" post? because if i did then its my mistake but i think i can ready pretty well so it is your mistake (no sarcasm there)

TK
05-25-2005, 06:54 AM
Metallica, Slayer, and Megadeth started the thrash metal movement. If you listen to Metallica's Kill'em All, or Master of Puppets, you can hear why it's labeled thrash. Thier 90's stuff can be put into the progressive metal catagory.

But there are too many catagories to metal, even trying to define them is like trying to find WMDs in Iraq.

no u r misunderstandin here we r talkin bout TRASH metal

mrmonkeyman
05-25-2005, 12:51 PM
Metallica, Slayer, and Megadeth started the thrash metal movement. If you listen to Metallica's Kill'em All, or Master of Puppets, you can hear why it's labeled thrash. Thier 90's stuff can be put into the progressive metal catagory.

But there are too many catagories to metal, even trying to define them is like trying to find WMDs in Iraq.
This post has essentially burnt any bridges you had with intelligence.
There is nothing - NOTHING - EVER - that Metallica have done that even approaches prog rock.

The Ricky
05-25-2005, 01:35 PM
This post has essentially burnt any bridges you had with intelligence.
There is nothing - NOTHING - EVER - that Metallica have done that even approaches prog rock.

I love how you can take yourself so goddamn seriously on a fucking internet message board.

mrmonkeyman
05-25-2005, 01:48 PM
Haha, sure I do. Good work avoiding the point.

sun and steel
05-25-2005, 03:21 PM
heavy metal is not to be mistaken for light metal (metalica) or death metal (marilyn manson). Hah, truly a classic line, I commend you sir.

mosesdallama
05-31-2005, 12:03 PM
is that a bad thing?

TK
05-31-2005, 06:11 PM
Of course it's not a bad thing. He's complimenting you on your extensive knowledge of the genre known as metal.

Marceline
05-31-2005, 06:31 PM
This isn't paper.

It's some kind of metal.

True story.

Olde
06-01-2005, 02:47 AM
okay, here's what i say. the best heavy metal bands are:

Pre-1990 Metallica
Pre-1990 Megadeth
Pre-1990 Slayer
Exodus
Judas Priest (Jugulator)
Testament
Pantera
Iced Earth
Machine Head
Kreator
Mastodon
Mercyful Fate
Meshuggah
Mot�rhead
Overkill
Sepultura
Venom

All these bands are worth a listen in my book.

The big five (megadeth, exodus, slayer, anthrax, and metallica) all had extremely big influences on later forms of metal, like gothic, light, speed, and 'trash'. I've also heard of a style called 'darkwave'; i guess something like Tool's Aenima?

Hogan
06-01-2005, 02:57 AM
No wait never mind it is paper!

Wait Exuctor me and Joe have a bet going is the metal or paper?

TK
06-01-2005, 03:13 AM
okay, here's what i say. the best heavy metal bands are:

Pre-1990 Metallica
Pre-1990 Megadeth
Pre-1990 Slayer
Exodus
Judas Priest (Jugulator)
Testament
Pantera
Iced Earth
Machine Head
Kreator
Mastodon
Mercyful Fate
Meshuggah
Mot�rhead
Overkill
Sepultura
Venom

All these bands are worth a listen in my book.

The big five (megadeth, exodus, slayer, anthrax, and metallica) all had extremely big influences on later forms of metal, like gothic, light, speed, and 'trash'. I've also heard of a style called 'darkwave'; i guess something like Tool's Aenima?

WHAO

Hogan
06-01-2005, 03:49 AM
LIGHTNING BOLT

Marceline
06-01-2005, 04:29 AM
No wait never mind it is paper!

Wait Exuctor me and Joe have a bet going is the metal or paper?

No sir, that's paper!

mosesdallama
06-01-2005, 07:43 AM
i dont get it?

sun and steel
06-01-2005, 10:14 AM
Pre-1990 Metallica
Pre-1990 Megadeth
Pre-1990 Slayer
Exodus
Judas Priest (Jugulator)
Testament
Pantera
Iced Earth
Machine Head
Kreator
Mastodon
Mercyful Fate
Meshuggah
Mot�rhead
Overkill
Sepultura
Venom

You got Priest, Venom and Motorhead right and yet you leave out Iron Maiden. That, sir, is heresy.

mosesdallama
06-01-2005, 10:56 AM
when i get more downloads ill download some songs from those bands ya listed

Sezzy
06-01-2005, 11:42 AM
Well i feel proud, i know shit all about metal i think the only song i actually like that could be remotely metal, or extremely metal (reading this thread has completely confused me about what metal actually is) is down with the sickness by disturbed, i dont know why im even on this site because i never knew what Final Fantisy was until a few weeks ago and ive never played it... and i dont like all that metal stuff, so you guys probably want me to leave you alone, yes? well i will then im just really bored right now... :-( youre probably thinking "wow that was a waste of time"... SUCKERS!!!

mosesdallama
06-01-2005, 02:03 PM
i love you sez!

dudemanbro88
06-02-2005, 08:11 AM
anyone listen to MSI? (Mindless Self Indulgence)

MHU
06-03-2005, 05:36 PM
Well i feel proud, i know shit all about metal i think the only song i actually like that could be remotely metal, or extremely metal (reading this thread has completely confused me about what metal actually is) is down with the sickness by disturbed, i dont know why im even on this site because i never knew what Final Fantisy was until a few weeks ago and ive never played it... and i dont like all that metal stuff, so you guys probably want me to leave you alone, yes? well i will then im just really bored right now... :-( youre probably thinking "wow that was a waste of time"... SUCKERS!!!

I read this, and at the end i thought to myself...she is right!!!!
It was a waste of time to read, but it was funny...if that makes sence???
i dont know what im on, its 3 in the morning and i havent slept in days!lol

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
06-08-2005, 03:04 PM
I read through the whole thread...and yet I still can't get over that first post...

Manson was called death metal :(

Dear God, save me.

Cass
06-08-2005, 04:05 PM
Manson was called death metal :(

Dear God, save me.Ouch... yeah, it hurt a lot me too... Don't worry, it's going to get even worse... I recently heard that Slipknot is a death metal. THAT was something.

But nothing compares to people calling bands like Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and such nu-metal... Can't find a connection though, no matter how hard I try. It's just a nu-tone music.

Tidus 66
06-08-2005, 04:41 PM
Nu Metak- Korn and System of a Down, Black Metal- Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borguir

Cass
06-08-2005, 04:51 PM
Nu Metak- Korn and System of a Down, Black Metal- Cradle of Filth and Dimmu BorguirOh my holiest of holy gods... That's a REAL MEGA ROTFL, my friend. No offense, but you shouldn't talk in the oracle-manner about things which you haven't got the slightest idea. As for so-called nu-metal see above, and as for black metal... these two are not black metal. They are just hybrids, closest to the gothic metal. If you really want to try some black metal, check these out: Marduk, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Arcturus, Borknagar, Naglfar, Emperor, Profanum, early Behemoth, early Samael... That should be enough for the start.

TK
06-08-2005, 10:01 PM
wow it is amazing how many people in this thread are total experts on metal

seriously could u list some more names of metal bands because i get a boner when u do that

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
06-08-2005, 11:25 PM
This thread reminds me of hoards of stoned metal fans standing in the parking lot of a concert they didn't get into, screaming at each other because they all have different perceptions of "what's metal."

Dog_eat_Dog
06-09-2005, 01:10 PM
Oh my holiest of holy gods... That's a REAL MEGA ROTFL, my friend. No offense, but you shouldn't talk in the oracle-manner about things which you haven't got the slightest idea. As for so-called nu-metal see above, and as for black metal... these two are not black metal. They are just hybrids, closest to the gothic metal. If you really want to try some black metal, check these out: Marduk, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Arcturus, Borknagar, Naglfar, Emperor, Profanum, early Behemoth, early Samael... That should be enough for the start.

jesus....a discussion about dimmu being a black metal band or not?? it IS a black metal band, have ur ever even heard their old shit? if ur gonna put it in ONE genre then it have to be black metal. black metal can have a lot of gothic in it and still be a pure black metal band....didnt u know that? take satyricon for example..they are what u can call gothic-black metal. btw is any of those black metal bands u mentioned american?...cause i cant find any GOOD american black metal bands. a little help...

mosesdallama
06-16-2005, 01:19 PM
Wow, reading all these posts has inspired me.. I now listen to Korn, System of a down, Pantera, Marilyn Manson, Slipknot, Rammstein, Anthrax, Metallica and much more.. Im also planning to have a listen to Mayhem, Ministry, Emperor (All recommended by The Lord Himself) and ill look for some other bands on the net as well.. I think thats a pretty good variation of the different types of metal.. Also after listening to all the other metal bands I can admit that I was completley wrong about system of a down, they are not heavy, they are hardly metal... Now I actually agree that they lean towards punk :-P
Thanks Everyone.

Metal
06-16-2005, 01:59 PM
I just love metal discussions. :)

Tidus 66
06-16-2005, 02:27 PM
Oh my holiest of holy gods... That's a REAL MEGA ROTFL, my friend. No offense, but you shouldn't talk in the oracle-manner about things which you haven't got the slightest idea. As for so-called nu-metal see above, and as for black metal... these two are not black metal. They are just hybrids, closest to the gothic metal. If you really want to try some black metal, check these out: Marduk, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Arcturus, Borknagar, Naglfar, Emperor, Profanum, early Behemoth, early Samael... That should be enough for the start.

I think i will !

Metal
06-16-2005, 02:34 PM
I hate black metal. Prog and trash rule!!!