One last time I will ask this question and I hope that someone will answer it. Can someone please explain why they think of the dresspheres as a good system? I shall explain my thoughts and you explains yours.
I think that the dresspheres are bad because:
1. They eliminate whatever dignity FFX had by adding the sick pervesity that has as of late appeared in Sphere Enix character designers. The main girls of the story all have very scanty clothing.
2. They add a flexibility to characters that I think is a bit too much.
3. The change of class is a Sailor Moon style sequence, which is lame-I think all of you will admit that.
4. The truly great system of FFX whiich had been carefully designed has been eliminated.
5. Opinion-The turn-based system is far superior.
6. They introduced a system that involved similar learning of abilities as in FFIX, which I think was bad, personally.
Well, thats all for now.

ok i dont think the battle system was that good either
but if they had kept it exactly the same asffx it would have in been very boring and repetitive, they changed it too add variety
and as for the ability system in ffix they tried to make it simple as alot of people found the ability system in ffviii to be abit too complicated

FFX battle system was better then FFX-2, but i think they should have made it possible to chose between FFX and the new battle system also the dress spheres and the sphere grid.

I agree that the dresspheres had a very sailor monny feel to them and were all scantily clad.

But i liked the idea that you could change between the dresspheres in battle.
The sphere grid was good but I prefered the dressphere learning method.

I found the dressphere thing really confusing at the start. I so badly prefered the FFX system. Though i do agree if they used it again it would get a bit boring. Sphere grid learning method was soo much better than the dressphere learing method.

I found the dressphere thing really confusing at the start. I so badly prefered the FFX system. Though i do agree if they used it again it would get a bit boring. Sphere grid learning method was soo much better than the dressphere learing method.

i'll agree 100%

meh

meh
How very constructive. May I ask that you don't just post 'meh' but actually post an opinion?

Omg, im laughing my ass off LOL!!!

sorry for posting this put the ''meh'' was funny.

Bad humour.

The dresssphere system is pretty great on the fly because it doesn't trap you with a static party. In other Final Fantasy games, you had a designated healer person, a designated mage damage person and something to whack the guy over the head and etc etc. This didn't exist for FF7-8 because everyone can actually do every single job. In a gameplay standpoint, this makes the game a hell of a lot fun because you're not stuck with a static party. You need to sleep the monster for a bit? Switch to Songstress and sing. Need to cure the whole party? Switch to White Mage and cure everyone. Someone died and they were the White Mage? Change to White Mage and boom, switch.

Now for the other stuff... well... if I remember correctly, games are games. Each game has its own flare and flavor. Each game company has its flare and flavor with many offerings to the side. We, the good people of the world, have the option to not pay that 49.99 that it costs to pay for a game. Of course there's "shame" and "honor" and "rep" and all that jazz... but all in all, games are games. No one should really care too much about it and I think that you are pretty much ignoring the fact that FFX-2 can be a great game... just don't judge it or anything else too much.

Look at it this way, it's better than FF8

Dress spheres are the best.... well, almost.

No it's just confusing and boring

OH my GOD people. Final Fantasy 10-2 was NOT meant as a traditional final fantasy game. its battle system was made as a sequal, its a more story based game. They changed the battle system to fit it. As was Final Fantasy XI NOT meant as a traditional game as well. The next normal one wil be Final Fantasy XII. Im so sick and tired of people complaining when Square Enix did not mean it as a regular game, but instead a story based SEQUAL. the battle system has nothing in common with the others YES we get it! When will everyone QUIT whining??? :whatever: :eye:


PS. i completely agree with MogKnight! it IS better ina sence because u have alot more battle options rather than...zzzzzzz healer/mage/warrior zzzzzzz i still love the other games systems though too. but this is great for a sequal story based RPG

WOOO calm down. We're not whining as such. Just expressing thoughts. I do sort of like it. It was just a bit confusing.

i dont need to calm down. im just really irritate with so many ppl asking the same stupid ass Q. and yes...look at the first guys post = WHINING :rolleyes:

Yeah sort of. I forgot about that one. But still, people agree with me. e.g. rinoa_heartilly

LOL yes ONE girl who seems to be, like you, confused at SIMPLE things...exactly how long did it take you to figure it out..id like to know?? :laugh: ....








I agree that the dresspheres had a very sailor monny feel to them and were all scantily clad..

yeah. have you ACtually compared sailor moon to the dresspheres. where do you get that they have a "Sailor moony" feel?? shes whereing a sailor suit!....and they had poooooor animation/art
:laugh:
never have i seen a dressphere where yuna or the others are wearing a sailor suit...where did u find it lol and sailor moon...you call THAT scantly clad??

Dresspheres sucks!

I know what you mean by one warrior, healer, black magicer etc, but thats their knowledge! Dressphere sucks because suddenly you change into a person who can do all black magic and suddenly a healer.

That sucks!

I don't care FFX had the spheregrid and so should FFX-2 had because it was an sequel!

Sigh... i dont care, i dont like ffx-2 so much.....

Wow someone's grumpy. No just because X had the sphere grid, no X-2 DOESNT have to. I agree with you..it was a GREAT battle system. But final fantasy X-2, ill say AGAIN, was not meant as a regular Final Fantasy game. Its an UNtraditional sequal. They are sphere hunters, hence Square Enix decided to go along with it and try something different while they have the liberty to, being a nontraditional game in the series. There will be more games and im sure youll like at least one's battle system. Ok? so chill out charlie.
:eye:

and no one said u HAD to like FFX-2. Just dont complain and grunt about it so much. lol

LittleBlackDressphere: OK. From what I see, the gist of those over-numerous posts of yours is this. You think that FFX-2 is untraditional. You agree with Mog Knight. FFXI is untraditional aswell. You do not regard me as worthy of a whole lot of respect. If you don't like it, too bad. They are not scantliy clad and there is no Sailor Moon feel. You would like me to "chill out, charlie".
FFX-2 is untraditional. I know. The point is, a sequel to a traditional FF should be traditional, not untraditional. I would be sorely hurt and would lose faith in Square Enix if the sequels to FFVII turned out 'untraditional'. I'm pretty sure anyone would.
Hey, I started this thread on a specific note, dresspheres. Sure, I don't like the game but I've already been talked to about that by Agent0042 and I'm not about to do that again.
If you don't like it too bad. Never heard a truer word but hey, I'm just trying to find out other peoples views on dresspheres.
They're not scantily clad, did you say? Would you like to play the game again?
Regarding the Sailor Moon thing, you did not read closely. Read this carefully.
3. The change of class is a Sailor Moon style sequence, which is lame-I think all of you will admit that
Final note: I just want to hear the reasons for liking the dresspheres. So far, Mog Knight has contributed the only sensible post. I am hoping that Prak and Agent0042 will also contribute.
EDIT: Some people like the flexability, some people don't. Thats based on yourself.

Oh my word...first of all. did i ever say the girls of FFX-2 werent scantly clad? NO! i said and quote "Sailor Moon..you call THAT scantly clad??"

Secondly id DOES NOT have to be traditional if its a sequal. NONE of the others EVER had sequals. if it were the next traditional game it would have been called FFXI not FFX2 Final Fantasy 11 was pretty traditional ill agree to that and hence it had a different story line and WAS called FFXI. My point is, Squiggly, that it was non traditional, was a sequal, and was nothing like regular continuing games...so why shouldnt the dresspheres be included? Not asking if you like them im asking who says that they have to follow the same battle system?

I think you were missing my point.

So, concluding please!..please squiggly tell me when has Square enix EVER made a sequal. A sequal in itself is nontraditional! None of the games were true sequals, Different worlds different stories different characters! :rolleyes:

did i ever say the girls of FFX-2 werent scantly clad? NO! i said and quote "Sailor Moon..you call THAT scantly clad??"
Oh...
In that case, what did it have to do with the converstion? Once again I am forced to quote:
3. The change of class is a Sailor Moon style sequence, which is lame-I think all of you will admit that.
Next...
Secondly id DOES NOT have to be traditional if its a sequal. NONE of the others EVER had sequals.
One would certainly hope that it would be traditional. Take Metal Gear Solid 3. I'm sure fans would be disappointed if it had turned out 'untraditional'. Agree with me there. By the by, what I meant by
I would be sorely hurt and would lose faith in Square Enix if the sequels to FFVII turned out 'untraditional'. I'm pretty sure anyone would. was the sequels soon to be released. I don't know what you mean by "Final Fantasy 11 was pretty traditional ill agree to that and hence it had a different story line and WAS called FFXI". I don't think that FFXI is traditional. It's a MMORPG after all. Completely out of character.
I've long been persuade that its good that there's a new battle system but I'm asking why. There I have to agree.

So, concluding please!..please squiggly tell me when has Square enix EVER made a sequal. A sequal in itself is nontraditional! None of the games were true sequals, Different worlds different stories different characters! I really don't know where that came from...
The fact that its a sequel is exactly what I was trying to get through. Take a good game with a sequel. Say...Doom. Or Half-life. Just 'cause their different doesn't alter the fact that they're in the same 'realm' and that they have to have most elements similar. FFX was an RPG with no mini-game feel. Look what happened.

Anyway, that aside, lets keep on track.

I loved the Dressphere system in FFX2. It brought back memories of FFV and Tactics. It was also a good idea to change your job in battle, depending on the situation you were in. The ability system is alright (better than FF9 IMO), but it isn�t as fun as junctioning. I didn�t like how the girls� stats stayed the same no matter which dressphere they were in (except Trainer, Mascot, and Special Dresspheres).

LOL yes ONE girl who seems to be, like you, confused at SIMPLE things...exactly how long did it take you to figure it out..id like to know?? :laugh: ....









yeah. have you ACtually compared sailor moon to the dresspheres. where do you get that they have a "Sailor moony" feel?? shes whereing a sailor suit!....and they had poooooor animation/art
:laugh:
never have i seen a dressphere where yuna or the others are wearing a sailor suit...where did u find it lol and sailor moon...you call THAT scantly clad??

it means that their dressphere are mostly like sailor moon, because of those dressphere changing sequence. hey, LittleBlackDressphere, have you ever looked at rikku whenever she changes her dressphere, then look at sailor moon. have you ever noticed something very similar?

...and please, i'm not confused at simple things. it took me ten minutes to understand what that dresspheres are, and i figured out that they are very similar to sailor moon. i think it was actually YOU who's confused about simple things. you don't even know how to compare things correctly.


Oh my word...first of all. did i ever say the girls of FFX-2 werent scantly clad? NO! i said and quote "Sailor Moon..you call THAT scantly clad??"

Secondly id DOES NOT have to be traditional if its a sequal. NONE of the others EVER had sequals. if it were the next traditional game it would have been called FFXI not FFX2 Final Fantasy 11 was pretty traditional ill agree to that and hence it had a different story line and WAS called FFXI. My point is, Squiggly, that it was non traditional, was a sequal, and was nothing like regular continuing games...so why shouldnt the dresspheres be included? Not asking if you like them im asking who says that they have to follow the same battle system?

I think you were missing my point.

So, concluding please!..please squiggly tell me when has Square enix EVER made a sequal. A sequal in itself is nontraditional! None of the games were true sequals, Different worlds different stories different characters! :rolleyes:

i have a question for you. if it was a sequel, shouldn't it have the sphere grid, because ffx has it and ffx-2 was the continuation of it?

....and why can't they just have new characters? it's kinda boring when it's just YRP battling along the whole game. i think it would be more better if there were new characters to fight along with.

Ok squiggly ill tell you where my statement came from...AGAIN..
They're not scantily clad, did you say? Would you like to play the game again? and then I SAID I never said FFX-2 girls were not scantly clad i kno the are...

Now for rinoa_fartilly




have you ever looked at rikku whenever she changes her dressphere, then look at sailor moon. have you ever noticed something very similar?
Yes i have dear...but we were talking mostly about clothing. and second, id shoot myself before comparing and concluding that FFX-2 girls/ change of spheres; was closely similar to such a peice of shit, lame ass thing like stupid Sailor Moon.


...and please, i'm not confused at simple things. it took me ten minutes to understand what that dresspheres are, and i figured out that they are very similar to sailor moon. i think it was actually YOU who's confused about simple things. you don't even know how to compare things correctly.
10 minutes. to understand what they ARE?? so how long for actually what they do? or the game itself? :laugh: wow




i have a question for you. if it was a sequel, shouldn't it have the sphere grid, because ffx has it and ffx-2 was the continuation of it?
Yeah ask the ppl that made it jesus. and again i wil try and explain (and remember this is part opinion so you can calm your smart ass down, im entitled to one) I agree with you that the spheregrid system was good and hell, why shouldn't it have been in the sequal..it is a sequal. YES we get it princess. But still this is the FIRST sequal theyve actually/really done..and THAT is UNTRADITIONAL in its self..Square Enix even uses the word "UNtraditional" to describe FFX-2. But traditional untraditional who cares, the point is..any other game is a TOTALLY different thing...their sequals are actually sequals. but final fantasy i'd hope u would understand by now...are a series. Hence a sequal to one..would be kindof like taking a LOTR movie, say Two Towers and continuing one part of it into a whole separate string of sequals. Thats all im saying this isnt simply taking a game or movie and making a sequal...theyre all continuations. So it doesnt HAVE to be the same, it CAN but the didnt choose to. The next TRADITIONAL game is FFXI or FFXII... FFX-2...is a little branch off of a tree so to speak. So no more antagonizing me, dont even bother responding to me, im done with this stupid argument. (and yes i agree that my half of it is stupid too) new thread please! lol


And everyone, can we stop arguing over how much you hate a game..theyre games..its better than going to school or doing h/w right? i like DISCUSSING likes and dislikes of a game. Not murdering someone because they didnt like FF#whatever or because they like FFX-2 etc...

So no more antagonizing me, dont even bother responding to me, im done with this stupid argument. (and yes i agree that my half of it is stupid too) new thread please! lol


And everyone, can we stop arguing over how much you hate a game..theyre games..its better than going to school or doing h/w right? i like DISCUSSING likes and dislikes of a game. Not murdering someone because they didnt like FF#whatever or because they like FFX-2 etc...

well, i'm sorry to say this to you. this thread is mostly about how people could hate the dresspheres in FFX-2 and guess what? i think you just posted how much you like the dresspheres in FFX-2, when IN THIS THREAD, PEOPLE DISCUSS HOW MUCH THEY HATE THE DRESSPHERES. and people will mostly antagonize you for this. they probably won't listen to you either, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T EVEN SPELL THE LAST NAME "HEARTILLY." AND GUESS WHAT ALSO!? you're ANTAGONIZING people yourself, so what the heck do you expect them to do???

rinoa_fartilly
holy moly

This thread was not made for people to say how much they hated dresspheres and not for LittleBlackDressphere to contradict herself but to hear the pro's on dresspheres. I would be grateful if LittleBlackDressphere would stop being irritating and CALM DOWN! Please, pro's of the dressphere system.
P.S. Bloody hell, think before you post. That includes Rinoa Heartilly and LittleBlackDressphere. BTW, are you denying that you think that the change sequence had a Sailor Moon feel?
P.P.S. Well done Auragaea.

holy moly

have you ever looked at rikku whenever she changes her dressphere, then look at sailor moon. have you ever noticed something very similar?

Yes i have dear...but we were talking mostly about clothing. and second, id shoot myself before comparing and concluding that FFX-2 girls/ change of spheres; was closely similar to such a peice of shit, lame ass thing like stupid Sailor Moon.
"3. The change of class is a Sailor Moon style sequence, which is lame-I think all of you will admit that."
They were talking about the dressphere change sequence, not the clothing, dear

Your darn tootin'

"3. The change of class is a Sailor Moon style sequence, which is lame-I think all of you will admit that."
They were talking about the dressphere change sequence, not the clothing, dear

a little lame, yes.

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T EVEN SPELL THE LAST NAME "HEARTILLY."
:laugh:

Wow, what an intelligent reply, LittleBlackDressphere, I do hope you can amaze us further with your great skills.

Wow, what an intelligent reply, LittleBlackDressphere, I do hope you can amaze us further with your great skills.

yeah, i know. like what? antagonizing people. yes, i definitely agree with you squiggly :confused: i never knew antagonizing people can be a great skill.

Does anyone here recognise sarcasm?

Quite obviously Squiggly, everyone does, they just choose to ignore it as their limited capacity for intelligence is like a 286 running Windows XP with Unreal Tournament 2004. Extremely slow and non-existant

i liked dresspheres... o_O

Just set it to OFF if you don'tlike it...I think it's ok, but...

Oh dear God!!!! Modulator - PLEASE close this pointless thread now!!!!

i sort of agree, the 3 of them look a bit like sluts and the good ffx battle sytstem is gone(meh) what can you do?????????

I only liked the DS system because it reminded me of the jobs in FF tactics. But I hate the fact that the aeons were removed as I prefer the aeon summoning over the DS. It would be cool though, if they've created a summoner DS. As for the battle system, I'm gonna go with X-2's, because X's Sphere Grid was more complicated for me.

I agree that at frst the system was very hard to figure out. I could never get the switching down. After about my first time playing it i got like 65% but in the next game i understood dressesspheres better. I just kept getting better at it. Though i prefer a level up system. i still like FFX's way better. I perefer a leveling up system just because im use to it. almost every final fantasy has had it that way.

What i love about this game:
1. The Turn-based-system is gone (it is more challenging and requires more thought)
2. The dresspheres are cool and they give u the chance to be whatever u want, u dont just have to be a black mage, u dont just have to be a warrior...
3. The graphics are awesome
4. the story is wonderful. (i wont give it away)
5. The enemies are cool and i love Leblancs Guru there...
6. The girls are hot! XD
7. When changing dresspheres, the sequence is cool, all the colors and stuff (sailor moon uses a wand and jumps around and turns colors, in FFX-2 their clothes just kinda melt off and the new is there)

I love this game and i am so glad i got it, still working on the "perfect" ending but i have already beat it.

Look at it this way, it's better than FF8

Lol.....no.

Ok squiggly ill tell you where my statement came from...AGAIN.. and then I SAID I never said FFX-2 girls were not scantly clad i kno the are...

Now for rinoa_fartilly




Yes i have dear...but we were talking mostly about clothing. and second, id shoot myself before comparing and concluding that FFX-2 girls/ change of spheres; was closely similar to such a peice of shit, lame ass thing like stupid Sailor Moon.


10 minutes. to understand what they ARE?? so how long for actually what they do? or the game itself? :laugh: wow




Yeah ask the ppl that made it jesus. and again i wil try and explain (and remember this is part opinion so you can calm your smart ass down, im entitled to one) I agree with you that the spheregrid system was good and hell, why shouldn't it have been in the sequal..it is a sequal. YES we get it princess. But still this is the FIRST sequal theyve actually/really done..and THAT is UNTRADITIONAL in its self..Square Enix even uses the word "UNtraditional" to describe FFX-2. But traditional untraditional who cares, the point is..any other game is a TOTALLY different thing...their sequals are actually sequals. but final fantasy i'd hope u would understand by now...are a series. Hence a sequal to one..would be kindof like taking a LOTR movie, say Two Towers and continuing one part of it into a whole separate string of sequals. Thats all im saying this isnt simply taking a game or movie and making a sequal...theyre all continuations. So it doesnt HAVE to be the same, it CAN but the didnt choose to. The next TRADITIONAL game is FFXI or FFXII... FFX-2...is a little branch off of a tree so to speak. So no more antagonizing me, dont even bother responding to me, im done with this stupid argument. (and yes i agree that my half of it is stupid too) new thread please! lol


And everyone, can we stop arguing over how much you hate a game..theyre games..its better than going to school or doing h/w right? i like DISCUSSING likes and dislikes of a game. Not murdering someone because they didnt like FF#whatever or because they like FFX-2 etc...
What a very stupid person.

I've gotta say that the X-2 battle system was a tad more interesting than X's in that it revived the old VII way of times and stuff, rather than just takin turns. You know, taking a pop at an enemy then being able to come back half an hour later without pausing to find it's still your turn was handy but dull. I like the pressure!

Sphere grids were useless...Just a ploy to see how many revealing outfits they could stuff the girls into without it constituting as soft porn. Except maybe Dark Knight...I'll always have a place in the dark recesses of my heart for the Dark Knight Sphere!

Garment grids and dress-spheres are completely USELESS, I've completed the whole game without ever changing the default dresses for Yuna, Rikku and Paine. And I never ever used Garment grids.

I dare you to finish FFX without using the sphere grid!

Garment grids and dress-spheres are completely USELESS, I've completed the whole game without ever changing the default dresses for Yuna, Rikku and Paine. And I never ever used Garment grids.

I dare you to finish FFX without using the sphere grid!

That's not a fair comparison because the sphere grid also took the place of levels in addition to being a method for learning skills. Also, it is possible to go through FFX without ever using the sphere grid.

I never understood the Sphere grid. I just stuffed random spheres in random places and hoped it didn't like explode or something. Didn't do me too much harm, I've completed the game many a time!

Ah, so it is possible to finish the game without ever using the sphere grid!
Damn... I wonder how hard Evrae, Yunalesca and Braska's final aeon will be. : /

What i love about this game:
1. The Turn-based-system is gone (it is more challenging and requires more thought)
2. The dresspheres are cool and they give u the chance to be whatever u want, u dont just have to be a black mage, u dont just have to be a warrior...
3. The graphics are awesome
4. the story is wonderful. (i wont give it away)
5. The enemies are cool and i love Leblancs Guru there...
6. The girls are hot! XD
7. When changing dresspheres, the sequence is cool, all the colors and stuff (sailor moon uses a wand and jumps around and turns colors, in FFX-2 their clothes just kinda melt off and the new is there)

I love this game and i am so glad i got it, still working on the "perfect" ending but i have already beat it.

I wouldnt say its my fav but I wouldnt say it isnt either.I agree with you on all the points(especially 6 lol) but not really 4.

I agree with Tifa Star that the sphere grid was confusing at first but I found it easy after a while.FFX still is better overall by a long way

I took my time to read the whole discussion about whether which system is best, and i arrived to my own conclussion:

First, i saw sailor moon when i was a kid, and it would have some assemblance when you change spheres on ffx-2.

Second, i played ffx-2 before playing ffx, and i find ffx system confusing at first, and quite long to level up; ffx-2 dress sphere system it's actually more convinient, because you can alternate characters to level up (by this i mean i.e., if you are leveling up a white mage, a berserker and a songstress, when u reach 100% with one of them u can alternate between characters and do the same style for killing enemies - one to cure, one to attack, one to cause altered states -). In ffx you have to BATTLE A LOT in order to acquire s.lvl. and reach black magic (i.e.) with two characters.

Third, FFx reminds me to FFVII in the sense that you have a lot of characters to level up and play with different characteristics. FFx-2 wouldn't have much sense with a lot of characters

And last, but not least; i think its not good comparing games that are only similar in the storyline.

I hope this will not cause much conmotion. Critics are well received.

Ines

Third, FFx reminds me to FFVII in the sense that you have a lot of characters to level up and play with different characteristics. FFx-2 wouldn't have much sense with a lot of characters


Ines

reminds you of FF7?You mean its a good game then.

Sex appeal was the only way Square could sell X2.

personally I thought the X-2 battle system was a new and fresh Idea. The turn-based has been done for so long, it was nice to see that square-enix can think up a new system and do it well. I really liked that how if I knew what I was doing I was rewarded by doing better in battle. It's alot faster now and keeps it from boggling down and getting repeditive and boring. The battle system was kind of like kingdom hearts mixed with FFX. My biggest complaint with this game is that its a lil' TO girly and almost all the mingames were insane annoying.

i played ffx-2 before playing ffx

intersting, you are the first I know to do this.

personally i thought ffX-2's story was awful (not spoiling it for the few of you who have yet to play that... terrible... game.) the dresssphere system was stupid because they are changing the turn-based system which personally i preferred. on a different note square enix needs to fire the guy they got to make the soundtrack for that game aye. the music is repetitive, annoying and the choice of instruments or sounds used for the songs was terrible too. whats there to like about this game?

1.) Turn-based battles are really slow-paced.
2.) The story was bad, but the chicks well made up for that problem.
3.) The music was good.
4.) Do you need hearing aids, puberty, or arthritis-free fingers?

if heyre too slow paced you can turn the battle speed up. why waste a good 40-50 bucks on a game just because of sex appeal... you can find stuff like that for free on the internet. and okay, compare the X-2 soundtrack to the previous ones. anyone who knows pretty much anything about music, or has at least half-decent taste will agree with me that it sounds awful compared to its predecessors. as for d) god, youre an idiot. oh and to that person who said X-2 was better then ff8, please explain your logic.

yeah....theres really know need for all this excessive bitching though... FFX-2 totally blew, it's just a matter of keeping the cash flowing out of our pockets and in to Square Enix's. I played that up untill about mount gazet, doing everything in order and it totally sucked but If everyone here shit gold im sure it would be necassary to whine about this. Untill that is possible we need to stop complaining about FFX-2 and start getting excited for FF 12. It wont dissapoint... i assure you.

it seems theyre making it in the same format as tales of symphonia and the star ocean series. man those games were sweet, hope it doesnt flop.

i dont think it will, Someone told me that the same guy who did "Tactics" is directing it and that games pretty fucking decent... Plus i cant remember there being a weak official FF title (except for 11, but i like to pretend that didnt happen.)

to be honest i never played tactics so i wouldnt know, but i guess youre right about everything else

On the one hand, you say that FFX-2 was bad. On the other hand, you say that all the "official" FF titles were good. What about X-2 wasn't official? Also, what's wrong with FFXI?

And anyway, how about actually disputing the points some of us brought up over the course of this discussion about FFX-2's merits instead of just whining about how bad you thought it was? If you think it was truly terrible, rather than simply not to your liking, take up the issue with those of us who did like it instead of just whining to the choir of whiners.

i thought it was bad, but my point is: There is no point in whining about it... So many good bands come out with shitty albums then redeem themselves.. If its a bad game, its a bad game (this is my personal opinion.) and there isnt much we can do to change that... unless you have a time machine....


...Do you have a time machine?

You're dodging my question.

if heyre too slow paced you can turn the battle speed up.

I mean like slow-paced like, "I go eat diner and come back and nothing has changed, slow-paced". The idea of turn-based battles was ok back in 1994, but now, it just doesn't cut it for people like me who want a CHALLENGING gaming experience.

EDIT: The thing about the Star Ocean Series: Agreed

in ff7 it wasnt completely turn based. every 15 or so seconds the computer did attack you whether you did or not:P but thats besides the point, each to their own. i personally think it sucked but you enjoyed it, lets leave it at that shall we?

yeah. have you ACtually compared sailor moon to the dresspheres. where do you get that they have a "Sailor moony" feel?? shes whereing a sailor suit!....and they had poooooor animation/art
The sailormoony feel that's being referred to is the DS changing sequence. it is similar to Sailormoon's. and comparing the animation art is plain stupid because it is common knowledge that sailormoon was done decades ago.

anyway, i definitely agree to what mog knight said about the characters being un-static in X-2 because of the dresspheres. switching to other jobs is a good idea for me. what i didnt like about the battle system is the ability learning as it was time-consuming.

X-2 is nothing more than a giant sell-out. But if it gets XII a biogger budget and a longer deadline, I'll forgive Square.