Phideas1
01-17-2018, 05:56 PM


Many years ago, as they say, I had just returned from a long trip and parked the car in front
of the home of some friends, when the double piano concerto started to play on the radio.
I was mesmerized and remained seated. THIS was Ralph Vaughan Williams with such a pounding
and percussive use of TWO pianos????? Later I learned the audience of the late 30s was just
as surprised. Then it slid into this sublime Romanza that was so relentlessly beautiful...
and the beauty continued (my toe nails began to curl). I exhausted possibly 3 LPS of this....
and waited many years for it to show up on CD. Only this performance would do.

It is always a mistake to offer a variety in all things because inevitably something
will resonate differently with a different person. I leaned this started as a concerto for
a single piano and premiered with the infamous Harriet Cohen (Arnold Bax wrote
much music for Harriet when he wasn't rolling her around in bed). It proved a challenging piece
(no puns) since Harriet was not that great a pianist- so it was arranged for two pianos
and I adore this version and especially this recording.

If you are worthy, can show polite enthusiasm with a please and thank you,
I would be happy to send the FLAC link. I would also be thrilled if you reported
back in this thread what you think of this music. And send chocolates. Keep your
responses in THE THREAD, not PM. Don't make Phideas cross when he is offering you
great beauty.

As for Job, a Masque for Dancing... it's okay.

riegel
01-17-2018, 07:15 PM
Stunning music indeed!

NRKorsakov
01-17-2018, 07:19 PM
PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!! I have never heard this and am really interested! Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phideas1
01-17-2018, 09:08 PM
To be ignorant of the masterpieces of Ralph Vaughan Williams is a great sadness. At least I have the satisfaction of raising not only the hairs at the back of your neck, but entering you into the fold of beauty that has been ...... waiting.

Link sent. Chocolates expected.

xraydodger
01-17-2018, 09:29 PM
I'd love the link please, thanks!

Winter Shaman
01-17-2018, 09:32 PM
Yes, I would like to get a link to this one. Thanks.

FilmscoreFan
01-17-2018, 09:49 PM
I'd like to request the link at your convenience. Thank you for sharing!

*****

Link received and reputation added. Thanks again. :)

crmbcrspcoating
01-17-2018, 10:04 PM
WOuld love to hear this, please and thank you!

Phideas1
01-17-2018, 11:00 PM
Links sent. Chocolate anticipated.

marinus
01-17-2018, 11:52 PM
A link I would very much like; chocolate I only have in the virtual kind (sorry, I'm on a diet...). Thank you very much!

pp312
01-18-2018, 03:52 AM
Would much appreciate the link. I take it a block of Cadbury's Fruit & Nut will do?

xraydodger
01-18-2018, 04:02 AM
Thanks!

dmoth
01-18-2018, 06:11 AM
Thank you for your post and the little insight into your passion for the piece. I love Vaughan Williams and have this concerto, but I don't really like the performance. I would love a link to this recording please after your recommendation. Thanks in advance. :)

stonewalls
01-18-2018, 12:11 PM
Please send me the link. Many thanks.

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Link received. Thank you very much.

pjmontana
01-18-2018, 01:34 PM
Phideas1, could you please send me the link. Thank you.

Phideas1
01-18-2018, 08:11 PM
Thank you for your post and the little insight into your passion for the piece. I love Vaughan Williams and have this concerto, but I don't really like the performance. I would love a link to this recording please after your recommendation. Thanks in advance. :)


Links sent, expecting to trip over chocolate at the door very soon.

It seemed that Vaughan Williams was slow to make it from LP to CDs, way back in the dark ages of those first CD players. But soon the wonderful EMI/ Adrian Boult recordings started to pop up. But this concerto lagged. I was waiting.

So imagine how thrilled I was when it finally appeared in 1999.

In the meantime I purchased another recording of the work that was 'digital' (big deal) but tepid and lacked the enthusiasm and LOVE for the work.... you can always tell when a performance is paint-by-the-numbers and the orchestra or conductor lack feeling for the emotional heart.

That heart is HERE in this recording, from the bombastic, eye popping opening right to the heart aching slow movement that runs its delicate fingers up and down your spine with knee-clenching delight.

I am always thankful that England invented Ralph Vaughan Williams and Gerald Finzi. They made the world a better place, infusing it with their singular beauty.

Capitao
01-18-2018, 08:34 PM
could i have the link please please. Thanks.

MXK1980
01-18-2018, 09:20 PM
I'd love the link please, thanks!

Phideas1
01-18-2018, 10:35 PM
350 posts since 2010? A frequent shopper, obviously.

Links sent....

MXK1980
01-18-2018, 11:47 PM
Link received and reputation added. Thanks again.

pp312
01-19-2018, 12:45 AM
Link received, reputation added. I'll be commenting in due course as this is one of my all time favorite pieces.

palillo604
01-19-2018, 02:06 AM
Could you send me the flac link, please?
Thanks in advance.

pjmontana
01-19-2018, 02:50 AM
Link received. Thank you Phideas1 for another wonderful post.

relm1
01-19-2018, 03:28 PM
Link please!

dmoth
01-19-2018, 04:18 PM
Link received with thanks :)

Phideas1
01-19-2018, 04:55 PM
The link hath been sent!



palillo604
01-19-2018, 06:16 PM
Link received. Many thanks!

sysel
01-20-2018, 01:05 PM
May I get the link please? Thanks a lot!

Phideas1
01-20-2018, 06:06 PM
sent

Goodlaura
01-20-2018, 07:00 PM
Could you send me the link, please? Thanks in advance!

miklos
01-25-2018, 10:13 AM
Hello Phideas1

May I ask you for the links to this collection of works by Vaughan Williams

Many thanks in advance ;-)

All the best!

pp312
01-25-2018, 11:37 AM
Promised to comment on this recording so here goes:

I actually had this version back in the 60s but lost track of it. Since then I've had a number of versions but have never been entirely happy with any of them. Sometimes you hear a recording and think, "That's it--that's what the composer meant" and nothing else quite suits. I'd thought this version long out of print so was delighted to see it here, and especially to hear that the analogue sound gives so little up to later digital versions. In fact it's preferable, being more forgiving in the louder passages.
I'm always puzzled as to why this work has so few supporters. I consider it one of VW's masterpieces. Criticism often centers on VW as a non-pianist not writing well for the piano, but I find the interplay of soloist(s) and orchestra masterful, and the lack of a cadenza more than welcome, as I've never liked the damn things. The 1st movement is stirring enough to warm the coldest blood, the slow movement as lanquorously introspective as any VW wrote, and when the theme returns at the end, almost as an echo of itself, I never fail to get that heart swelling 'Thomas Tallis' feeling, if that makes any sense.
I have a question, Phideas. When you somewhat dismissingly said that the Job was "okay", did you mean as a work or just that version, as I consider Job to be another of VW's masterpieces, and this version again is about the best I've heard. Not challenging your opinion, just wanting to clarify it.

UnWiZe
01-25-2018, 12:48 PM
I'd be appreciate if you send me the link :)

sunset1111
01-25-2018, 02:02 PM
Could you please send the link? I'd very much appreciate it - thanks!

wimpel69
01-25-2018, 02:21 PM
When you somewhat dismissingly said that the Job was "okay", did you mean as a work or just that version, as I consider Job to be another of VW's masterpieces, and this version again is about the best I've heard. Not challenging your opinion, just wanting to clarify it.

Personally, I think JOB is one of RVW's most sublime works. However, given that most of the 50 or so minutes are both low-key and low-volume, it can be a test of patience on the listener if you listen to the piece in its entirety.

Phideas1
01-25-2018, 05:34 PM
Promised to comment on this recording so here goes:

I actually had this version back in the 60s but lost track of it. Since then I've had a number of versions but have never been entirely happy with any of them. Sometimes you hear a recording and think, "That's it--that's what the composer meant" and nothing else quite suits. I'd thought this version long out of print so was delighted to see it here, and especially to hear that the analogue sound gives so little up to later digital versions. In fact it's preferable, being more forgiving in the louder passages.
I'm always puzzled as to why this work has so few supporters. I consider it one of VW's masterpieces. Criticism often centers on VW as a non-pianist not writing well for the piano, but I find the interplay of soloist(s) and orchestra masterful, and the lack of a cadenza more than welcome, as I've never liked the damn things. The 1st movement is stirring enough to warm the coldest blood, the slow movement as lanquorously introspective as any VW wrote, and when the theme returns at the end, almost as an echo of itself, I never fail to get that heart swelling 'Thomas Tallis' feeling, if that makes any sense.
I have a question, Phideas. When you somewhat dismissingly said that the Job was "okay", did you mean as a work or just that version, as I consider Job to be another of VW's masterpieces, and this version again is about the best I've heard. Not challenging your opinion, just wanting to clarify it.

First, I wish more folks would respond to the music that is posted here in such a fashion. It is disappointing to offer something into a void with no response. I had the lp of this recording in the 70s (I don't believe it was paired with Job at that time). And as you mention, there are times when you hear something for the first time, THAT recording becomes the one you will love best- with some exceptions (Christopher Warren Green's Lark Ascending is unlike any recording I have ever heard... and Jean Martinon's Ravel Cycle of orchestral works remains stunning, especially his take on Bolero). Wimpel offered a disc of RVWs piano work that I did not know existed and I have been enchanted by it. I heard one recording of the double piano recorded digitally and there was no spark. Then I hear the single piano version and it lacked power and passion. So this OLD analogue recording is where the magic happened. I think that RVW is guilty of many very moving masterpieces. I just have never connected with Job as one of those and have seldom ever listened to it. For those who have and found it wonderful, I envy them. But THIS double piano recording has all the components you listed. It is deeply moving and sublime.

padiernacero
01-25-2018, 08:08 PM
Please send me the link. Many thanks.

Phideas1
01-25-2018, 08:53 PM
Sent...

Ralph Vaughan Williams and Gerald Finzi


pp312
01-26-2018, 06:51 AM
"Personally, I think JOB is one of RVW's most sublime works. However, given that most of the 50 or so minutes are both low-key and low-volume, it can be a test of patience on the listener if you listen to the piece in its entirety."

Funny thing, wimpel, you could also argue that it's low key, rather restful nature makes it easy to sit through (and even if you should tend to nod off, there are the occasional eruptions to wake you up again). I've certainly never had any trouble doing so. Now if you asked me to sit through a George Antheil symphony, that might be a different matter. :)

Dr. Science
03-24-2018, 12:03 AM
is it still possible for me to get a link? either way Thank You!

capitan moscardon
03-24-2018, 01:04 AM
I would like to get a link to this. Thanks in advance.

CELTICPROUD
03-24-2018, 04:48 AM
any chance of link please
much appriated
cheers

vadimspb2
03-24-2018, 05:56 AM
Please, can you send me a link ?
Thanks.

Sc0tty
03-24-2018, 07:56 AM
I'd love a link too, if you could. Ta.

honzman70
03-24-2018, 08:33 AM
Would love to hear this - can I have the link please - thank you so much for all your great postings...

DortorMaligno
03-24-2018, 10:27 AM
Link, please. Thanks in advance.

dfwdave
03-25-2018, 10:18 PM
May I please have a link? Would love to hear this recording! Many thanks!