Denny
04-25-2005, 03:00 PM
I want to know what games have dissapointed you the most. Games that you thought would be fantastic but didn`t live up to expectations.Here are a few i could remember.(These are very recent but feel free to mention games of old)

1: Halo 2
2: FFX
3: MGS 2
4: DOOM3
6: Fable
:-(

Kemtach2999
04-25-2005, 03:05 PM
I was dissapointed by a few games

1. FF8
2. Star Trek: Invasion
3. URU

Denny
04-25-2005, 03:06 PM
At first ff8 was dissapointing, but after awhile i began to enjoy its true genius.

Zulu
04-25-2005, 03:12 PM
1. FFIV
2. Sword of Mana
3. The Matrix

They suck my rainboots!

Denny
04-25-2005, 03:19 PM
But the matrix wasn`t dissapointing. We all knew it was going to be a piece of dog shit.

Detonate
04-25-2005, 03:48 PM
FF10-2
Halo 2
Fable
MGS 3
Untold Legends(PSP game- i got a import!)

Alpott
04-25-2005, 03:49 PM
KILLZONE

Detonate
04-25-2005, 03:52 PM
Is GREAT

TK
04-25-2005, 03:54 PM
I think we all know where this is headed!

Raidenex
04-25-2005, 03:55 PM
General Gaming!

Denny, you should know better :(

Denny
04-25-2005, 03:55 PM
Whoa, Whoa. MGS3 was fantastic, it was one of the few things the Japanese got right. It`s great.

FurY
04-25-2005, 03:57 PM
I will kill you Denny.

Denny
04-25-2005, 03:57 PM
Why?

Raidenex
04-25-2005, 04:02 PM
I'm not usually disappointed by games I buy, because I do research into them first. I guess you could say the one I was most disappointed by was Halo 2, but it more a slight annoyance at the abrupt ending rather than true disappointment.

I still thought it was fantastic until Half-Life 2 came out a week later.

Denny
04-25-2005, 04:04 PM
Halo 2 was awful. Considering i really rank the first one highly. And yes, Half life 2 was fantastic.

Raidenex
04-25-2005, 04:17 PM
Halo 2 was awful.

Care you elaborate on your reasoning, or are you just going to take the fanboy route?

Gameplay wise, it was equal with the first. Xbox Live made multiplayer fantastic all the time, and the extra multiplayer modes were fun as well. The single player story, which people dis so much, was indepth and intriguing, once you get past the "OMG THEY SAID THEY WERE ON EARTH AND THEY'RE NOT" factor. Although I was disappointed it ended where it did, I'm still going to get Halo 3 as soon as it comes out, just to find out what happens next.

As for the graphics, they were incredibly ambitious. Perhaps they pushed the Xbox too far - but a little pop-in I can live with. It's certainly better than the game lagging; the only time i've seen Halo 2 lag is when someone with a bad connection hosts an Xbox Live game. Compare it to a game like KOTOR 2, which lags like a bitch, and you'll see how smooth it is.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it's the greatest game of all time - it's far from it, in fact. But I challenge you to find a better console based shooter. (Metroid Prime doesn't count, 'cause First Person Adventure, not Shooter.)

Denny
04-25-2005, 04:22 PM
But wait, i recently bought xbox live and found it no fun. On the headphones, i`m constantly being called a "faggot" and have to listen to dickheads singing down my headphones. My gripe with halo 2 is that it was visually too dark. But it says a lot when after replaying the original god knows how many times, i was sick of halo 2 after finishing it once.

Raidenex
04-25-2005, 04:26 PM
But wait, i recently bought xbox live and found it no fun. On the headphones, i`m constantly being called a "faggot" and have to listen to dickheads singing down my headphones.

You know, i've never been really abused while on Xbox Live - and if someone's singing down the headphones, you can just switch the headphones off. They're not really necessary, even in team games - you can get by without them. Apart from that, playing on Xbox Live is exactly the same as playing in a normal System Link game, except you don't have to worry about organising 8 friends to bring 8 TVs and Xboxes.



] My gripe with halo 2 is that it was visually too dark. But it says a lot when after replaying the original god knows how many times, i was sick of halo 2 after finishing it once.

...try turning the brightness up? Sure, a lot of the game was based on indoor environments, but they were no darker than the indoor environs in Halo 1. And Delta Halo is definately as bright.

Darth Revan
04-25-2005, 04:26 PM
1. FFIV
2. Sword of Mana
3. The Matrix

They suck my rainboots!

What's wrong with FFIV? Happens to be one of my favs, but to each their own.

The games I was disappointed with mostly, were -

Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter
Suikoden IV
FFX
FFX-2
Samurai Warriors

My reasons for them... Well, with BoF Dragon Quarter, I hated the gameplay and controls, and the voice acting in it was atrocious. For Suikoden IV... It's bad, worse than Suikoden III. FFX and FFX-2... I've posted my say about these two time and again, so I won't bore you with it here. And Samurai Warriors... A pale imitation of Dynasty Warriors.

Denny
04-25-2005, 04:31 PM
I just found halo 2 boring. Bungie have a lot to make up for in Halo 3. Although i think the original was a once off.

Scarface920
04-25-2005, 04:46 PM
FFX-2 SUCKED ASS

I CANT STAND YUNA'S FUCKING BITCHING AND WHINING

and it takes too god damn long to lvl up

Raidenex
04-25-2005, 06:05 PM
I just found halo 2 boring. Bungie have a lot to make up for in Halo 3. Although i think the original was a once off.

Yeah. Because the Myth series weren't awesome strategy games. And basically, you're saying Halo 2 is awful because it didn't interest you, which is an extremely self-centred thing to say.

Denny
04-25-2005, 06:07 PM
I don`t mean that. It has its merits but i personaly found it dissapointint, hence the thread.

Raidenex
04-25-2005, 06:10 PM
I don`t mean that. It has its merits but i personaly found it dissapointint, hence the thread.

...

You know, in the real world, people have to back up statements with facts :(

GENERAL GAMING IS THE REAL WORLD.

Denny
04-25-2005, 06:11 PM
I`m getting into this, you like it, i don`t. lets leave it there.

Raidenex
04-25-2005, 06:18 PM
I`m getting into this, you like it, i don`t. lets leave it there.

Let's not <3

http://www.gamestats.com/objects/482/482228/

Based on 87 reviews, the game is quite good!

Denny
04-25-2005, 08:06 PM
Then it means it`s amazing! You sure changed my mind.

Siren's Song
04-25-2005, 08:18 PM
O-kay...

FFVII (not really that great, and waaaaaaaaaaay way over-hyped. (cue the fanboys/girls baying for blood)
Perfect Dark cause a crap game, story, and faaaaaaaaaar too like Goldeneye for my liking.
Zelda Windwanker obviously an attempt by Nintendo to get the younger gamers interested in the series. Waste of GC's graphics, and a barely re-hashed version of OoT story? Not impressed at all.

sun and steel
04-25-2005, 08:32 PM
Halo 2, first one was bad enough but the sequel didn't really improve at all.
Rise Of The Robots, that game looked so cool but when you actually played it....fuck.
Bloodwake, just....wrong.
Goldeneye, I don't know anyone else who thinks it's over-rated but I can't see anything special in it.

Alice Wonderbra
04-25-2005, 08:59 PM
tomb raider: the angel of dissapointment

Venom
04-25-2005, 10:44 PM
Silent hill 4
Kotor 2

Alice Wonderbra
04-25-2005, 10:58 PM
silent hill 4 wasnt that bad. it sucked for a silent hill game, but it wasnt that bad.

Shinryudan
04-26-2005, 01:11 AM
everything everyone else like i hate......
well anyway games that dissapoint me were
-- baten kaitos: eternal wings/lost ocean
--halo2 (i just hated the new vehicles and though duel weildinf is fun and seems more real, i thought it made it too easy.)

Raidenex
04-26-2005, 01:37 AM
silent hill 4 wasnt that bad. it sucked for a silent hill game, but it wasnt that bad.

Yeah, ditto for KOTOR 2 - apart from the obvious frame-rate issues, it was more of the first; all that you can ask for really in a game that came out only a year after its predecessor. And the story was awesome, if not padded out (or completed) as well as it should have been.


--halo2 (i just hated the new vehicles and though duel weildinf is fun and seems more real, i thought it made it too easy.)

Yeah, they fucked with the Warthog physics - I miss instant kills when running over people :(

Duel wielding doesn't make it easier though - with a Battle Rifle, I can take out somone with 2 SMGs a mile away. I miss my kick ass pistol though; I had a game of Halo 1 LAN with my friend the other day, and we were playing on Sidewinder. I was in the middle part of the level, and he was in the blue base with a sniper rifle, and I took him out with my trusty pistol - man that felt good!

Venom
04-26-2005, 01:40 AM
silent hill 4 wasnt that bad. it sucked for a silent hill game, but it wasnt that bad.
Me I love the Silent Hill series (one of my favs), but this one i just could not bring myself to play this crap again. Again this is just my opinion.

hb smokey
04-26-2005, 06:07 AM
Don't really feel like quoting everything that I wanted to, so I'll just make a general post about it, instead.

I don't see why Halo 2 got so much hype. I didn't find the story all too intersting, as it still feels too much like a 'SHOOT EVERYTHING THAT MOVES' type of game. I think playing Halo 2 online is a blast, and I can't get enough of it. These new maps, the autoupdate, and the patch are really going to rekindle my love for Xbox Live, as I'm glad with it.

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker is not an excellent game, or either a great game for that matter. I enjoyed the graphics emmensely, but that's pretty much it. Way too much sailing, same old story, and now you have to pay to assemble the triforce? Pfft.

I loved Perfect Dark, and think it's underrated because Goldeneye came out before it. Sure, I believe the single-player mode in Goldeneye is considerably better, but I think the multi-player and the gameplay of PD is far better. It's still one of my favorite game.

CRUNCH BAR
04-26-2005, 06:31 AM
Halo and Halo 2, one good reason, no fucking BOTS, I don't know about you guys, but I liked killing Oomomo and Karimura with shotguns in Medal of Honor: Rising Sun.

Hogan
04-26-2005, 07:22 AM
I don't see why Halo 2 got so much hype. Because it was the sequal to a very big game and had been in devolpment for a fairly long
time, but mostly because Microsoft hyped it a lot.

Raidenex
04-26-2005, 08:29 AM
Halo and Halo 2, one good reason, no fucking BOTS, I don't know about you guys, but I liked killing Oomomo and Karimura with shotguns in Medal of Honor: Rising Sun.

Get some friends <3

Or Xbox Live, at least =/

Bots are for pussies.

CRUNCH BAR
04-26-2005, 03:29 PM
Get some friends <3

Or Xbox Live, at least =/

Bots are for pussies.
Oh, I killed them with friends, I forgot to mention that. Me and three other friends against 4 bots is fun.

the guy watching you
04-27-2005, 02:48 AM
even with friends and xbox live your soon gonna get bored of the game.your just doing the same thing over and over(killing anything that moves and dying,for u retards)

hb smokey
04-27-2005, 03:05 AM
even with friends and xbox live your soon gonna get bored of the game.your just doing the same thing over and over(killing anything that moves and dying,for u retards)
But I'd rather kill friends than bots, because the potential for AI is much greater.

CRUNCH BAR
04-27-2005, 04:21 AM
But I'd rather kill friends than bots, because the potential for AI is much greater.
You mean the potential for a bot whooping any human player ass, right?

Raidenex
04-27-2005, 04:37 AM
You mean the potential for a bot whooping any human player ass, right?

Please. If you get your ass kicked by bots in any game, you have a severe problem =/

I suggest you stop playing FPS games immediately.

theMADNESS
04-27-2005, 06:29 AM
If your going to play a fps game play Tribes for ps2 i liked it it has on line game play in it so you can take on those ppl that spen every second of thier lives playing it but watch out for game sharks on there i got so mad at this guy who just seemed to never run outa ammo and always got head shots nobody is that good know what i mean?

Raidenex
04-27-2005, 08:40 AM
If your going to play a fps game play Tribes for ps2 i liked it it has on line game play in it so you can take on those ppl that spen every second of thier lives playing it but watch out for game sharks on there i got so mad at this guy who just seemed to never run outa ammo and always got head shots nobody is that good know what i mean?

Oh teh noes, hax0rz!

There's no possible way that they could just be better than you =/

theMADNESS
04-27-2005, 06:27 PM
no there is no way anyone can be THAT good i mean as soon as i would respawn i was dead it was like they knew where i would respawn it pissed me off soooo bad i busted out a chain gun and started to just fire at anything that moves friend or foe it was going to die i killed 3 of my own guys and 1 of them my uys got pissed at me for doing it so they joined the other team and i just left

hb smokey
04-27-2005, 07:00 PM
no there is no way anyone can be THAT good i mean as soon as i would respawn i was dead it was like they knew where i would respawn it pissed me off soooo bad i busted out a chain gun and started to just fire at anything that moves friend or foe it was going to die i killed 3 of my own guys and 1 of them my uys got pissed at me for doing it so they joined the other team and i just left
If it's a small enough map, then it's not too difficult to figure out where the spawn point will be the majority of the time. I know that in Halo 2, I've done some of it.

Prak
04-27-2005, 11:04 PM
If your going to play a fps game play Tribes for ps2 i liked it it has on line game play in it so you can take on those ppl that spen every second of thier lives playing it but watch out for game sharks on there i got so mad at this guy who just seemed to never run outa ammo and always got head shots nobody is that good know what i mean?

That's what you get for playing an inferior version of the game. Try playing one of the PC games.

EDIT: Then again, after reading your next post about your little TK spree, I wouldn't want another of your kind infecting the servers.

Ska
04-27-2005, 11:10 PM
ok here goes

Halo in general, i heard a lot of good things then i played it and found quite the oppisite :)

FFXI, i dont know what i expected from this but i came into this game just after having left SWG as a jedi and it didnt live up to my expectations.

Pro evo 4, just the same as Pro evo 3 :)

shadow_cammy
04-27-2005, 11:12 PM
ff crystal
unlimited saga......arrrrr shitty game >_<

Denny
04-27-2005, 11:14 PM
Frankie goes to holloywood.....spectrum i think, gaming most horrid.

mrmonkeyman
04-28-2005, 12:53 PM
The Wind Waker.

...

shadow_cammy
04-28-2005, 01:57 PM
The Wind Waker.

...
yeah that really was

FurrY
04-28-2005, 04:08 PM
Worms Armageddon and all other worms games, got sick of them of a week. ''Kids Game''

Denny
04-28-2005, 09:18 PM
Wind waker?! Don`t make me laugh.

hb smokey
04-28-2005, 09:21 PM
Wind Waker was such, such an overrated game, and I would only give it a descent rating at best.

Denny
04-28-2005, 09:22 PM
Suppose, but the new one looks top class sarge.

Sephiroth's son
04-28-2005, 10:43 PM
lengends of dragoons was really disapointoing i think, it was hyped alot and it didnt live up to it

Alice Wonderbra
04-28-2005, 10:48 PM
i thought your nick said Sephiroth's ass for some reason and i was about to errupt into a fit of giggles. now i am terribly disappointed.

amshu
04-30-2005, 06:54 PM
true crime

i thought it was a really cool game but it was so damn short i finished it in less than a week, and i dont play games very often!

Dark_soilder
05-01-2005, 04:07 AM
personally i hated this game called knights of sum bulol shit it was like a extremely cheap pc game (it was in fact on a playstation ) and the reason i hated it so much is that the cover said a thrilling game, exellent graphics and A GAME YOU COULD PLAY FOR HOURS AND THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKEN SENSE IN THE GAME

Raidenex
05-01-2005, 04:23 AM
THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKEN SENSE IN THE GAME

Kind of like your posts o_O

mrmonkeyman
05-01-2005, 12:17 PM
Worms Armageddon and all other worms games, got sick of them of a week. ''Kids Game''
Fuck off and die.

The Anti-Existence
05-01-2005, 01:19 PM
Xenosaga Episode II

1. The new game stystem was ridiculous. (Where'd Techs, Armor, etc. go?)

2. The new look was stupid. (Why switch from the anime-ish style that made so many people praise EP1?)

3. The voice-acting was as bad as Xenogears. (Shion sounds girly, KOS-MOS sounds girly, everyone else has bad new VAs, except maybe Jin or chaos)

4. The story was wrong. (Why do we want to learn about Albedo and Jr.'s past so much?! A minor part of the game it could've been, but there are far more important issues)

5. The Music!!!! (UGH!!)

Alice Wonderbra
05-01-2005, 07:46 PM
The Fifth Element game was absolutely terrible and I was looking forward to playing it because I love the movie so much. There was absolutely nothing good about that game. =/

Venom
05-01-2005, 08:00 PM
Another game that was dissapointing was FF crystal chronicals(cant spell it).

Alice Wonderbra
05-01-2005, 08:02 PM
i heard that game was good. =/

hb smokey
05-01-2005, 09:48 PM
Well I wouldn't count Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles as being too disappointing. I never expected much from it, and the only reason it got the recognition was because it had the title of FF in it. The game was horrendous.

Venom
05-06-2005, 03:22 AM
Also Killzone, not even close to being a halo killer.

The Ricky
05-07-2005, 05:37 AM
Also Killzone, not even close to being a halo killer.

Killzone did a very good job as a Halo killer.

Dark_soilder
05-07-2005, 05:44 AM
Kind of like your posts o_O
why dont you go back to screwing ya mum fag

Raidenex
05-07-2005, 08:23 AM
why dont you go back to screwing ya mum fag

Oh no, i'm being told off by someone who can't even spell their own username properly =/

Pos
05-07-2005, 09:31 AM
lol thats funny raidenex

The worst game i played I think has to be.

Mario kart double dash for the gc.

I didnt like the levels it was to slow. The specials we awful and the music so cheesy. shame after the first one was so good.

hb smokey
05-07-2005, 08:09 PM
Mario kart double dash for the gc.

I didnt like the levels it was to slow. The specials we awful and the music so cheesy. shame after the first one was so good.
Mario Kart: DD!! was a very good game. I wasn't too keen on the whole 'double-up' cart idea, but I thought that it was very creative and put a lot of strategy into racing, instead of just holding down the button the whole way and squeezing past your opponent on a turn.

Pos
05-07-2005, 09:18 PM
It just didnt appeal to me as much as the original for some reason.

Hogan
05-07-2005, 09:52 PM
Killzone did a very good job as a Halo killer. That is just untrue.

The Anti-Existence
05-08-2005, 07:23 AM
Maybe YOU'RE untrue!!

I really don't care for either Halo or Killzone.... Give me MGS3 anyday.

Pos
05-08-2005, 11:05 AM
Maybe YOU'RE untrue!!

I really don't care for either Halo or Killzone.... Give me MGS3 anyday.


Ahh nice to see mr arrogance is back and listening to others opinion again.

I prefer halo to kill zone but mgs sucks imho.

The Ricky
05-08-2005, 12:16 PM
why dont you go back to screwing ya mum fag

You called yourself Dard_soilder. I could make so many soiling yourself jokes outta that.

Squiggly
05-08-2005, 12:25 PM
I didn't read past the first page but game-play wise, Halo 2 is for me just Halo with plasma swords and a health system that makes it cinch. The story was disappointing though. I wouldn't go so far as to say I was badly disappointed but it was a little annoying, I expected more.

Dark_soilder
05-09-2005, 07:04 AM
Oh no, i'm being told off by someone who can't even spell their own username properly =/

as 4 your information fuck nut that is how i had intended to spell it so like i said go back 2 screwing ya mama

The Ricky
05-09-2005, 08:11 AM
So you're a Dark SOILder.

But about the whole Halo vs. Killzone, if you ask me, Halo was dissappointing. And I was impressed with Killzone. But that's just my opinion.

Pos
05-09-2005, 01:19 PM
as 4 your information fuck nut that is how i had intended to spell it so like i said go back 2 screwing ya mama


Well maybe you should learn to spell and if your going to lie cover it better.

Anyways I like killzone but the weapons on halo2 were a lot better imho.

Hogan
05-09-2005, 01:29 PM
Killzone is not a Halo killer. Halo sold many many many more copies than Killzone.

Dark Andrew
05-09-2005, 02:30 PM
i think the most disappointing games was haven: call of the king. it was very good but the ending was crap. I spent hours trying to stop the evil guy then got to the boss battle only to find that you always loss even if you win the battle then his ties you up with the only guy able to save the universe (who happens to be dead) then fly�s of. the end. What bullshit!

Venom
05-09-2005, 02:45 PM
Killzone had framerate issues, lag on online play, levels to linier and the plot just sucked ass. Halo didn't have any of these except maybe the plot could have used a better ending.

Denny
05-09-2005, 05:54 PM
Killzone is not a Halo killer. Halo sold many many many more copies than Killzone.

Although that doesn`t mean that Halo is better, i do think (the original) halo is still the greatest first person shooter ever next to Half Life 2.

Neo Xzhan
05-09-2005, 06:29 PM
Enter the Matrix, it was way too horrible, nothing can match it shittyness. Doom 3 was disapoiting, not because of the graphics or sound or something like that. It was just Doom 1 perked up, nothing new or anything. That let me down.

Ska
05-09-2005, 06:45 PM
Yeah doom 3 was pretty pants tbh, it got repetitive after the first hour i'd say.
I liked the graphics but that was before half life 2 came out, then it just took a back seat.

Denny
05-09-2005, 06:49 PM
Yeah doom 3 was pretty pants tbh, it got repetitive after the first hour i'd say.
I liked the graphics but that was before half life 2 came out, then it just took a back seat.

Yup, half life 2 showed that even a low polygon eviorment could still look amazing.

hb smokey
05-09-2005, 07:27 PM
Killzone had framerate issues, lag on online play, levels to linier and the plot just sucked ass. Halo didn't have any of these except maybe the plot could have used a better ending.
What in the world are you talking about?

Halo 2 has had some pretty lag issues during online play at some points. I remember, because all the people playing were disappearing and reappearing in random points in the map. And when you shot somebody and you thought you killed them, you actually ended up doing no damage to them, and somehow you wind up on the ground dead. The plot for Halo 2 was pretty bad as well.

Denny
05-09-2005, 10:13 PM
Halo 2 sucks ass though.
Dark, dark levels to hide a shit game.

Pos
05-09-2005, 10:36 PM
Halo 2 sucks ass though.
Dark, dark levels to hide a shit game.


Halo2 was better that kill zone.

But I prefered half life and c.s to both of them

The Ricky
05-10-2005, 12:29 PM
Another dissappointing game if you ask me was Xenosage Episode 1. The battle system annoyed the living hell out of me, and I hate the idea of watching 120 hours of story and actually playing it for only about 10 hours.

mr. patterson
05-10-2005, 01:48 PM
mgs2... fuckin movies ARGH... i just wanna play the game... why are you doing this hideo? WHYYYYYYYYYYY???????

Denny
05-10-2005, 06:48 PM
mgs2... fuckin movies ARGH... i just wanna play the game... why are you doing this hideo? WHYYYYYYYYYYY???????

Then why do you play final fantasy?? ....moron. Think before you type.

RottenMilkman
05-10-2005, 06:59 PM
MGS2 was incredibly disappointing.

Also, I don't know what is up with all the Halo bashing. The only thing I disliked about both of the halo games was the lack of strategy and the constant running and shooting, but that doesn't make it a horrible game by any means. I enjoyed the plot, the action, and the gameplay. It really is a pretty great game.

The most disappointing game of all time is Devil May Cry 2, which was really horrible.

Ska
05-10-2005, 07:46 PM
Halo is an ok game, but after a while it gets boring and repetitive.

And besides it doesnt compare to some other games of the same genre.

RottenMilkman
05-10-2005, 08:22 PM
Halo is an ok game, but after a while it gets boring and repetitive.

And besides it doesnt compare to some other games of the same genre.

Every game gets boring and repetitive if you play it long enough. The only FPS games I can think that I liked better than halo are both the half-life games, goldeneye and perfect dark.

Ska
05-10-2005, 08:55 PM
Thats true but there are exceptions like i've played CS for years and im not bored of it.

I can think of a few more tbh:

Far cry
red faction
operation flashpoint
battlefield 1942/vietnam
and......soldier of fortune the original :p

*Slayer*
05-10-2005, 09:10 PM
Yeah thats right. Killzone i found was a massive disappointment. It was still good but not excellent like it was said to be.

CRUNCH BAR
05-11-2005, 04:56 AM
Red Faction 2 is awesome...don't know about the first one though, never played it.

Dualface
05-11-2005, 05:02 AM
Ill tell you a very dissapointing game. Starwars:Republic Commando. It was way to short, and in every mission, you just killed like millons of stupid droids.

DarkRicky
05-11-2005, 09:31 AM
The getaway black monday - it was oh so flawed...

Dark Andrew
05-11-2005, 09:34 AM
The getaway black monday - it was oh so flawed...

you need stylus

RottenMilkman
05-11-2005, 02:26 PM
Thats true but there are exceptions like i've played CS for years and im not bored of it.

I can think of a few more tbh:

Far cry
red faction
operation flashpoint
battlefield 1942/vietnam
and......soldier of fortune the original :p

I don't think any of those are as good as Halo.

I like all of them except Red Faction... but none as good as Halo.

Ska
05-11-2005, 03:07 PM
I don't think any of those are as good as Halo.

I like all of them except Red Faction... but none as good as Halo.


How can you even begin to compare a console based fps like halo to a game like far cry, Far cry has superior graphics and better AI in far cry not only do the enemy's issue radio commands to each other to keep track of your movements but they also work as a team to take you down. in halo all the little coloured aliens do is stand in spread out positions trying to take you down with scattered fire. Also if you look at most reviews of pc magazines far cry will score higher than halo everytime. The fact that halo started off life as a console based shooter is a major downside since the graphics were limited.

Also i could explain why all the other games are better to but i cant be bothered right now.

Denny
05-11-2005, 07:10 PM
Halo 1 was just an exilirating experience, especially the level, the silent carthograher. Pure gaming in co op.

RottenMilkman
05-11-2005, 08:10 PM
How can you even begin to compare a console based fps like halo to a game like far cry, Far cry has superior graphics and better AI in far cry not only do the enemy's issue radio commands to each other to keep track of your movements but they also work as a team to take you down. in halo all the little coloured aliens do is stand in spread out positions trying to take you down with scattered fire. Also if you look at most reviews of pc magazines far cry will score higher than halo everytime. The fact that halo started off life as a console based shooter is a major downside since the graphics were limited.

Also i could explain why all the other games are better to but i cant be bothered right now.

O rly

Game spot gives Far Cry a 9.2, while giving Halo 2 a 9.4 and Halo a 9.7.

Ign give Far Cry a 9.2, while giving Halo 2 a 9.8 and Halo a 9.7.

OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY DISAGREES WITH YOU.

Just because you like something better does not make it fact. Halo is one of the best selling games ever for a reason.

Ska
05-11-2005, 08:17 PM
PC zone, PC gamer and PC format ALL gave Far cry a better score than Halo, and why dont you give me some good facts about halo and then we can start.

Halo scored in the mid 80's in most reviews whereas games like half life 2 scored a 97 twice and a 98 in pc gamer. Far cry was in the low 90's which is still very good!

One question for you though have you actually played Far cry?!

RottenMilkman
05-11-2005, 08:33 PM
PC zone, PC gamer and PC format ALL gave Far cry a better score than Halo, and why dont you give me some good facts about halo and then we can start.

Halo scored in the mid 80's in most reviews whereas games like half life 2 scored a 97 twice and a 98 in pc gamer. Far cry was in the low 90's which is still very good!

One question for you though have you actually played Far cry?!

Played the demo for it. Really liked it too. I really don't want to argue this because it is really a difference in taste, not anything technical.

Also you are comparing Far Cry to a port of Halo. I am comparing it to Halo on X-box.

Also: If you look at the scores that Metacritic has given the games

Halo = 97
Halo 2 = 95
Far Cry = 89

Metacritic averages the scores from around 70 reviews.

Ska
05-11-2005, 08:36 PM
I've played Halo for the Xbox and the PC and i have to say there is a slight improvement on the PC but all im saying is that technically Far cry is a much better game than Halo, Although some of it might come down to taste like the storyline and the whole idea of the game e.g aliens and shit.

I trust PC zone and gamer a lot more than any other reviewer since 9/10 times they are right.

RottenMilkman
05-11-2005, 08:47 PM
I trust PC zone and gamer a lot more than any other reviewer since 9/10 times they are right.

9/10 times they complement your taste in games. That doesn't necessarily make them right. Critics don't write based on fact, they write based on opinion. My opinion differs from those sites apparently.

Ska
05-11-2005, 08:54 PM
Reviewers write based on what they see and think of the game, that involves the graphics, gameplay, AI but i agree with you what they say is based a lot on opinion and past experiences with other games, but some things in games are just common sense. You can look at Halo and then look at far cry and even a half brained chimp could tell which has the better graphics.

RottenMilkman
05-11-2005, 09:15 PM
Reviewers write based on what they see and think of the game, that involves the graphics, gameplay, AI but i agree with you what they say is based a lot on opinion and past experiences with other games, but some things in games are just common sense. You can look at Halo and then look at far cry and even a half brained chimp could tell which has the better graphics.

Of course, but that's not saying much considering Far Cry was made a couple years after Halo. Graphics definitely do not make up for gameplay and overall fun, and I found Halo to be much more fun than Far Cry.

You'll notice I thought Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were much better than Halo as well. You can assume that it is not because of the graphics.

Rabid Monkey
05-11-2005, 09:45 PM
Just because you like something better does not make it fact. Halo is one of the best selling games ever for a reason.

High sales don't mean that the game is great. High sales mean it sold a lot of copies. Brittany Spears sells a shit load of CD's, that doesn't mean her music is good.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not really arguing with you because I haven't played either game. It just irks me when people say, "it sold a lot of copies so it must be good!" That is never a decent measuring stick. Selling a lot of copies just means you were able to convince a large number of people that they want to buy your product, it doesn't mean the product is high quality.

RottenMilkman
05-11-2005, 10:09 PM
High sales don't mean that the game is great. High sales mean it sold a lot of copies. Brittany Spears sells a shit load of CD's, that doesn't mean her music is good.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not really arguing with you because I haven't played either game. It just irks me when people say, "it sold a lot of copies so it must be good!" That is never a decent measuring stick. Selling a lot of copies just means you were able to convince a large number of people that they want to buy your product, it doesn't mean the product is high quality.

I understand that, but the reason Britanny Spears sells so many CD's is because a lot of people like her. Doesn't necessarily mean she's a great musician, but people like her, and therefore buy her CD's.

Halo sold a lot of games, doesn't mean it's a great game but means that a lot of people like it.

Ska
05-11-2005, 10:13 PM
Exactly halo seems to have sold a lot of copies despite the fact it is a mediocre game,
No offense to you but i think that Halo is a game best suited to someone who wants an easy ride.

RottenMilkman
05-11-2005, 10:14 PM
haha whatever.

Ska
05-11-2005, 10:15 PM
So your saying you found this game a challenge?

RottenMilkman
05-11-2005, 10:16 PM
So your saying you found this game a challenge?

On the more challenging difficulties it is definitely a challenge.

Ska
05-11-2005, 10:17 PM
But then you try something like Far cry and it will be difficult for you on easy ;)

RottenMilkman
05-11-2005, 10:18 PM
I don't really see that it matters really.

UR GAMES TOO EASY IT SUX

Ska
05-11-2005, 10:20 PM
"MY GAME SOLD MORE COPIES AND IT HAS LITTLE ALIENS THAT JUMP AT YOU, OH IT IS SO THRILLING!"

RottenMilkman
05-11-2005, 10:25 PM
"MY GAME SOLD MORE COPIES AND IT HAS LITTLE ALIENS THAT JUMP AT YOU, OH IT IS SO THRILLING!"

o good one.

I was just saying that halo sold a lot of copies because you were saying my opinion was WRONG. There are quite a few people that agree with me apparently.

Ska
05-11-2005, 10:26 PM
And i bet that there are quite a few people who agree with me (maybe not on this site because im not exactly popular)

But anyway this argument could go on forever so unless you have something new to say i'm going to leave it at that.

Alice Wonderbra
05-12-2005, 12:01 PM
I have never even heard of far cry, but i have most definitely heard of halo. in fact, i have only heard good things about it. at college, EVERYONE plays halo 2--there are HUGE halo parties all over the place all of the time. obviously people like it. the way i hear people talk about it its like its mario or something.

Ska
05-12-2005, 03:04 PM
Its like FFVII tbh.

Raidenex
05-13-2005, 04:30 AM
Its like FFVII tbh.

Actually, no, it's not. The great thing about Halo is that it's in the mainstream now; it's 'cool' to play Halo. Final Fantasy is a fantastic game that is still more suited to the realm of the 'gaming fan' - not a multiplayer fragfest with buddies.

The reason Halo (and Halo 2) sold so many copies is becuase every man and his dog bought one - not just every gaming fan. You can find the stereotypical bespeckled nerd playing it, right alongside the stereotypical stoner, right alongside the stereotypical jock - and usually in the same living room, around the same TV.

Far Cry hasn't done that. Far Cry can't do that. PC games can never, ever reach mainstream the way that Halo has. PC games rely too much on hardware, and the hardware is too expensive for the mainstream audience - compared to buying an Xbox, and being able to play four player straight away, to play 4 player Far Cry you would need 4 decent gaming PCs.

Now, I haven't played Far Cry, so I can't make any judgement calls, but I do know when it comes to the affect the games have had on the gaming world, Halo has made a far bigger splash.

Ska
05-13-2005, 07:45 AM
Are you saying that console fps's have had a bigger affect on the gaming world than PC ones? Because if you are then you are wrong really. When you look at doom and half life they shaped the way fps' are today.

And as for Halo it hasnt influenced any new games except Halo 2. as for Halo selling a lot of copies because its on the xbox that doesnt make it better than Far cry or op flashpoint or BF'nam.

PC games can sell lots of copies, look at World of Warcraft and the sims, WoW is the fastest selling game ever and the sims has the most recorded sales ever.

Have you actually played any of the games i mentioned on a top of the range PC? if you had you would see the difference between them and Halo.

Raidenex
05-13-2005, 08:23 AM
Are you saying that console fps's have had a bigger affect on the gaming world than PC ones? Because if you are then you are wrong really. When you look at doom and half life they shaped the way fps' are today.

Would you pull your head out of your little world for one second? I'm not talking about the gaming world. I'm talking the world as a whole. Half-Life 2 is a superior game, gameplay wise, to Halo 2. I'm not so sure about Doom 3, but that's just personal opinion. What i'm saying is that you're far more likely to find 'normal' people, ie, those who don't usually play games, playing Halo 2.


And as for Halo it hasnt influenced any new games except Halo 2. as for Halo selling a lot of copies because its on the xbox that doesnt make it better than Far cry or op flashpoint or BF'nam.

I'm talking influential in how the community sees games. The launch of Halo 2 was the first one to be covered by traditional media, like the premiere of a large movie. It's turning games from a niche industry into a mainstream one, which is good for the industry as a whole.


PC games can sell lots of copies, look at World of Warcraft and the sims, WoW is the fastest selling game ever and the sims has the most recorded sales ever.

No-one ever disagreed with you on that point - The Sims is another example of a genre-busting game that 'non-gamers' play. Except, in this case, the non-gamers are usually young teenage girls.


Have you actually played any of the games i mentioned on a top of the range PC? if you had you would see the difference between them and Halo.

Yes, I have. And like I've said many times, Half-Life 2 is far superior to Halo, in any incarnation. Unfortunately though, Half-Life 2 didn't receive the same coverage - but hopefully, when it is released on the Xbox, it will.

Ska
05-13-2005, 02:51 PM
Now, I haven't played Far Cry, so I can't make any judgement calls, but I do know when it comes to the affect the games have had on the gaming world, Halo has made a far bigger splash.


First off you havent even played Far cry so why are you arguing over which is superior, it makes no sense, secondly it may have made a bigger impact on media and shit but new fps' will be based on Far cry's AI system not Halo's.
Which is the gaming world.

I cant understand why there is more coverage for xbox games than PC when the PC is far more advanced than the xbox :(

hb smokey
05-13-2005, 05:26 PM
I cant understand why there is more coverage for xbox games than PC when the PC is far more advanced than the xbox :(
Well it's actually not too hard to think about really. Xbox sells for a lot less than a PC. Why put coverage on something that is so much more expensive than the other? I mean really, yeah PC games may be more advanced than Xbox games, but there are far more Xbox gamers in the world than PC gamers.

Ska
05-13-2005, 10:16 PM
Somehow i dont think there are more Xbox owners than PC owners almost every house in britain has a PC. Also there isnt much competition for PC but there are for Xbox, PS2, gamecube etc.

A PC can be used for so much more so most likley more people have them than some silly little console.

hb smokey
05-13-2005, 11:15 PM
Somehow i dont think there are more Xbox owners than PC owners almost every house in britain has a PC. Also there isnt much competition for PC but there are for Xbox, PS2, gamecube etc.
You are totally missing the point. Yeah a ton of people own PC's, but there is more use in owning a computer than just playing games on it. With an Xbox, you buy it solely for the reason to play video games, nothing else. Not every PC owner plays PC games on said computer, but every Xbox owner plays video games on said Xbox.


A PC can be used for so much more so most likley more people have them than some silly little console.
That's exactly what I just said. I'm sure that there are more PC owners in the world than Xbox owners, but a good number of them don't even play PC games.

Raidenex
05-13-2005, 11:21 PM
Somehow i dont think there are more Xbox owners than PC owners almost every house in britain has a PC. Also there isnt much competition for PC but there are for Xbox, PS2, gamecube etc.

A PC can be used for so much more so most likley more people have them than some silly little console.

Every house has a PC, but does every house have a PC capable of running a game like Far Cry? Honestly man, you have to check the facts; to be a PC gamer you have to have a gaming rig, and they don't come cheap. The average home computer, the type Average Joe buys, comes with onboard video, and couldn't play most modern games if they wanted to.

Consoles are an affordable gaming solution, which is why there are a LOT more console gamers out there. Oh, and when I said 'gaming world', that was a slip; I meant 'how the world sees gaming', but I contracted it to something that doesn't make sense.

And also, would you quit defending Far Cry? I only said that Half-Life 2 was superior to Halo 2. I haven't played Far Cry. I'm not going to judge it. But I do know the gaming industry, and i've read reviews of Far Cry - and i've read better reviews of Half-Life 2.

Like i've said, time and time again, no-one is disagreeing with you - there are many better games than Halo. But you do realize there are people out there who 'don't play games', right? It makes me wonder after your PC comment. There are thousands and thousands of people out there who wouldn't touch a PC game because only 'geeks' would, but those same people would have no problem playing on their frathouse Xbox getting stoned and playing Halo. It's a new gaming audience, one that consoles (and some companies, like EA) cater for.

I'm sorry, but you cannot call yourself a gamer and have a biased opinion. I have a gaming PC, an Xbox, a PlayStation2 and a GameCube; I judge games based on themselves, not what platform they are on. At the moment, the best game (in my opinion, anyway) is Knights of the Old Rebupblic - a game designed for Xbox, that is available on the PC. However, because it was designed for the Xbox, the PC version isn't as good; sure, the graphics are a slightly higher res, but the control feels off. Graphics are not everything when it comes to games.

Ska
05-13-2005, 11:22 PM
That's exactly what I just said. I'm sure that there are more PC owners in the world than Xbox owners, but a good number of them don't even play PC games.

Well i agree that a good number dont play PC games but i'd think that there are more PC gamers than Xbox gamers, if you look at the amount of time the pc has been around and the wide range of games it has then there are probably more people playing pc, especially if you look at the massive online community's like everquest.

EDIT: raiden tbqhwy i dont call myself a gamer anyway, having a biased opinion? for saying that Halo sucks compared to Far cry.

Denny
05-13-2005, 11:29 PM
I played with myself and I was the most dissapointing game ever :(

hb smokey
05-14-2005, 04:19 AM
Well i agree that a good number dont play PC games but i'd think that there are more PC gamers than Xbox gamers, if you look at the amount of time the pc has been around and the wide range of games it has then there are probably more people playing pc, especially if you look at the massive online community's like everquest.
Last time I checked, I believe that there have been 20 million Xbox units sold worldwide. Yeah I know for a fact that there are more than 20 million PC's around the world, but I'm willing to bet that there aren't 20 million PC gamers in the world.

Ska
05-14-2005, 09:17 AM
Well just on the Csports.com database there are 2 million PC gamers.

And this argument has turned into PCvconsole not Halo v Far cry.

jiro
05-14-2005, 11:28 AM
FFx-2
dragonmoon
donkey kong

Pos
05-14-2005, 12:25 PM
FFx-2
dragonmoon
donkey kong


Donkey kong sucked I hated that game.

Especially the party version they tried bringing out for the gamecube

Purrr
05-19-2005, 06:03 AM
Pitball
Silent Hill 2

mrmonkeyman
05-19-2005, 12:20 PM
o good one.

I was just saying that halo sold a lot of copies because you were saying my opinion was WRONG. There are quite a few people that agree with me apparently.
Sales really don't prove a game's great. Sorry man, I agree with you on most things.

Crim
05-23-2005, 07:44 AM
1.Devil May Cry 2
2.Gran Turismo 4
3.Matrix
4.Tomb Raider something.....(ps2)
5.Wild Arms 3

bart416
05-23-2005, 06:54 PM
1) Enter The Matrix
2) Medal of Honor Rising Sun (to short, and why did we needed that animal trips on the back of an elpehant)
3) GTA: SA I just hate it, eventough i had it the first day. Its just messed up. Where is the good old feeling of the original GTA.

dr.spamhead
05-24-2005, 05:36 PM
FF10-2
Halo 2
Fable
MGS 3
Untold Legends(PSP game- i got a import!)

WHAT mgs3 is the greatest game of all time how can you say it was dissapointing!!!! >:O

ShaqZero
03-26-2008, 04:17 PM
Here's my list- If I can get my say:

1. Rise of The Robots (SNES)

2. Sonic Heroes (PS2), and any game not named Sonic Advance- or Sonic Rush- after that IN HONEST FACT!!!

3. Metal arms- Glitch in The System (PS2)

4. Megaman Battle Network Series (GBA), despite I think these games are okay to play...

5. Megaman Zero Series (GBA)- The grading system made these games unfun and unenjoyable in terms of difficulty and replay factor, Luckily in my opinion, the ZX series revives the series in my opinion by NOT HAVING A GRADE SYSTEM.

6. And ANY LICENSED GAME YOU THINK OF BASED OFF TV SHOWS AND MOVIES, WHICH ALL USUALLY SUCK ASS!!! Sorry for my offensive language, BUT IT'S TRUE!!!

ShaqZero- These are my choices, Mock if you want. I'M RIGHT AND I DON'T CARE!!!

Prak
03-26-2008, 04:58 PM
No one's going to mock you for your choices. We're going to mock you because you're a fucking retard for reviving a three year old thread when there's perfectly comparable ones that have been active recently.