Oh for fuck sake.....
Look, as much as the DCEU is something I'm very critical of, I can at least say the fans certainly have passion. And Snyder, for his faults, is certainly a very unique director. It's a shame what happened to him and his family, and I do think that under a better script, he could really shine. And while I hate MoS, BvS at least managed to be weird enough to the point that I managed to enjoy the one viewing I had of it.
That being said, Warner Bros. are absolutely clueless as to how to run a universe. They start off by making a movie that learned the wrong lesson from the Nolan Dark Knight trilogy, and made it this depressing and bleak film that really misunderstood the character of Superman. When they saw it hadn't quite worked out, they figured that throwing in Batman was gonna save the next one. Except they ended throwing even more shit into the basket that it became too convoluted, and ended up making a movie that should've come after several had already been made. Cue even more visceral reactions. At the same time, we had another movie, where the director was given too little time to do the script, and then was edited to hell once WB decided that people liked the trailers too much for the film to not resemble them. Even more negative reactions come. And when they saw all the criticisms that had been lobbied at them. they pretty much decided to do heavy course correction once Snyder had done main shooting. And when he left, they pretty much went to Whedon, who was already hired when Snyder was to do reshoots. But they gave him so many mandates and very little time, it resulted in a messy post production. The final product ended up with the most mixed reactions of the universe so far.
Only Wonder Woman managed to be successful, primarily because they decided to actually trust the director and the crew on it. Even with all the doubts that they might've had, they managed to pull through, and now on track for a sequel. One that was very much decided because it did well.
And yet, only now is the DCEU in trouble because Justice League was deemed "Disnified" by fanboys, despite it's history stemming from the already complicated histories of the previous films? Fuck off.
I do not blame Whedon and Elfman in the slightest. They were only hired to do their jobs, and did the best they could with the time they had. If they were allowed to completely rework the movie, then I do think that the film would've been much more warmly received. However, because the executives pressed them and put them in a specific mindset, they weren't able to deliver. Adding to the fact that Elfman hasn't been as good in the recent years, as well as Whedon having issues with his ex-wife, it simply wasn't the best of times. So please, leave these men be.
Especially regarding the music. I'm incredibly pissed off by how petty RCP fans have been regarding Tom Holkenborg's firing and subsequent trashing of Elfman's score. I'm perfectly fine with people not being a fan of the score, particularly with the usage of the older themes being out of place. What I do not approve of is people thinking that Junkie XL's score will be better purely because of "musical continuity." Face it, the continual usage of themes between movies means absolutely nothing when the score sucks anyway. I thought the music in BvS was a huge downgrade from MoS, and the repeated themes did absolutely nothing but remind me how much better Zimmer could be. Generally, when making a film score, you want to make something that fits the picture and has progression throughout. Though JL didn't quite fit the picture at all times, it at least had an attempt at progression within itself. Since BvS prove to be mostly noise, I sincerely doubt the pay off would've been there to truly justify the progression. Especially when Holkenborg hasn't quite proven himself to me.
I think what Warner Bros. should've done was finish what Snyder initially had prepared, which would've allowed them to show a complete film in time. They would've been able to prepare accordingly, should the film had not done well. However, because they decided to suddenly change course and rapidly shifted everything accordingly, it led the situation we're currently at. I have no faith they could do anything now, except letting Whedon salvage what's there and giving him the time to make a proper movie.
But who am I kidding. The DCEU fanboys are gonna shit on it anyway. After all, if their god Snyder isn't doing it, why bother?
I'm totally unjustified for my current ranting :p
And if this doesn't show how it's all studio meddling, then I don't know what does. (
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/justice_league/danny-elfman-describes-justice-leagues-chaotic-production-had-to-score-storyboards-not-actual-footage-a155619)
