tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
04-27-2016, 06:17 PM
I didn't get this from Zaralyth.
I got it from somewhere else, with the commentaries.




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The limited bluray from ScreenArchives has the isolated score in lossless DTS-HD Master Audio.
In stereo.
The 'isolated score' is a studio-produced isolated score. It's how they made it available on bluray.
This is different than 'isolated edits'. :smrt:

This is a single file. Listen to it while watching the movie somehow.
Every software and hardware setup is different.
MPC-HC, don't use 'quick open'. Just use the regular open (CTRL+O) and select the video then select the iso score.

This is meant for watching with the movie (hence all the silences).
Or editing (to remove the silences).
I provided the untouched score in case anyone wants to watch it with the movie or edit it.

I used eac3to v3.31 with dcadec to convert the DTS-HD MA stream into FLAC with bit-accuracy.

eac3to log:

eac3to v3.31
command line: eac3to "solated score.dtshd" Titus.flac
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DTS Master Audio, 2.0 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz
(core: DTS, 2.0 channels, 1509kbps, 48kHz)
Decoding with libDcaDec DTS Decoder...
Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
Creating file "Titus.flac"...
The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits.
eac3to processing took 3 minutes, 40 seconds.
Done.


It's lossy-mastered from the studio.
Anyone with more knowledge on the score can chime in. I'm certain there's a history to the score and movie.

Using a custom build of SOX.exe, I created a spectrogram on the converted FLAC:
(official sox binaries cannot read FLAC as a source, instead must read a WAV format)
(https://imgur.com/6aHMIJi)

And then I used FFMPEG to create the waveform, but used 'compand' to make it brickwalled so you can actually see the start/stop points.
(https://imgur.com/j27QJfj)

The source of the isolated score was done accurately. There were no mistakes. It's just how it was mastered for the bluray, for whatever reasons.
Hence, why I mentioned if anyone has history on the score, that would be helpful in demystifying bluray audio.
I assure you, this is as bit-accurate as it can get.



I'll add the chapters later, according to bluray fps (23.976).
DVD chapters might have an fps of 29.97 or 25, depending on region, so they might not sync for anyone wanting to do an edit.
The SA bluray is only available to Region A, which has an FPS of 23.976, so that will be used for chapters.



The commentary is by Elliot Goldenthal, and I'm told it's a treat for anyone in film music study.
Review on the limited edition bluray:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Titus-Blu-ray/88573/



The commentary seems to be the isolated score in 5.1 with the commentary in the center channel.

Waveform of the commentary+iso:
(https://imgur.com/ksqWO0p)

5.1 spectrogram.
Order from top to bottom: Left, Right, Center, LFE, Side Left, Side Right
(https://imgur.com/JoReVla)

You can see in the third row (center channel), where Goldenthal talks over the music.
Side channels are probably just repeats of the Front channels but at a much lower volume.
Zero presence in the LFE channel. Which is okay, the Front channels carry plenty of bass on their own.




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Isolated Score:
FLAC / 24-bit / 48kHz / Stereo
https://mega.nz/#!f44XkJoC!TUgeeI6kArIiphsALABQk6Im8DjAY6bhJJ4dy7_jiuY

Commentary by Elliot Goldenthal:
FLAC / 24-bit / 48KHz / 5.1
https://mega.nz/#!W15UXQgS!GkILqYSuz-jVGoBjWRkjMBpO26Cz4-w6f9AoN1RIeNI





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PonyoBellanote
04-27-2016, 06:19 PM
lossless DTS core

jk

Nice treat. Thanks for sharing. There might be lots of peep interested. Sounds like a good share.

TheSkeletonMan939
04-27-2016, 06:19 PM
Wow, an isolated score in legitimate lossles. What a rarity!
Most are 640k at best, in my experience.

Thank you. :)

DAKoftheOTA
04-27-2016, 06:23 PM
Wow, an isolated score in legitimate lossles. What a rarity!
Most are 640k at best, in my experience.

Thank you. :)

Oblivion is lossless :p

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
04-27-2016, 06:25 PM
Most are 640k at best, in my experience.

Indeed!
I'm not sure what the politics behind it is.
Whether it's cheaper to just to use Dolby Digital formats (AC3) or if they actually have to pay any premiums to use lossless DTS formats (DTS-HD MA).

But, it's great to see that there are still some lossless iso's out there.
Big Trouble In Little China is my biggest collector's item for that reason. It's in 5.1, too, but don't know if it has any discreet surround sound design to it.

I still might buy the bluray, though. A real keepsake.

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Oblivion is lossless :p

:this: And that, too.

Although, it's odd they put it in 96kHz.
Great for editing, but impractical for listening.

I need to buy that one again because I bought it used from a video store that was going out of business (thanks digital >_>).
The slip is missing so it's sitting in a transparently blue jewel case. I've another movie without a cover. What is it? :itsamsytery:

OscarRomelPR
04-27-2016, 09:00 PM
Thank you so much

Momonoki
04-27-2016, 09:02 PM
Thanks. Now I don't have to do any work

corysun
04-27-2016, 10:03 PM
Thank you very much.

jakegittis
04-27-2016, 10:13 PM
Thanks for the share.

Calidoran
04-27-2016, 10:13 PM
Nice :) let's have a listen.


Wow, an isolated score in legitimate lossles. What a rarity!
Most are 640k at best, in my experience.

Actually... i have a few:

Batman The Movie
Caprica
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
High Anxiety
Night of the Living Dead
Oblivion
Robin Hood - Men in Tights
Young Frankenstein

Again, thanks for this :)

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
04-27-2016, 10:19 PM
Caprica

CatCF is great! I still want to buy the bluray but with all the repackaging, I have to double-check they're the same transfers and not different versions.

Caprica is sooo so nice.


There's also BBC's "The Hunt" documentary series.
That's another lossless one out there.
Wouldn't have known if Lockdown hadn't pointed it out to me.

Calidoran
04-27-2016, 10:19 PM
But, it's great to see that there are still some lossless iso's out there.
Big Trouble In Little China is my biggest collector's item for that reason. It's in 5.1, too, but don't know if it has any discreet surround sound design to it.

Is it lossless? I think mine is DTS at 768 kbps. Have you found a newer edition with lossless?

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
04-27-2016, 10:21 PM
Is it lossless? I think mine is DTS at 768 kbps. Have you found a newer edition with lossless?

Yeah, it should be DTS-HD Master Audio in 5.1.
Retail disc in Canada, should be the same transfer for US discs.

Let me rip it and up it.
I'll get chapters this time.

reptar
04-28-2016, 12:45 PM
Awesome, thanks! Looking forward to the commentary.

Calidoran
04-28-2016, 01:58 PM
Yeah, it should be DTS-HD Master Audio in 5.1.
Retail disc in Canada, should be the same transfer for US discs.

Let me rip it and up it.
I'll get chapters this time.

Nice :)

uncut1
04-28-2016, 06:03 PM
thank you

Calidoran
04-28-2016, 06:41 PM
There's also BBC's "The Hunt" documentary series.
That's another lossless one out there.

Point taken ;)

I will try to get another one ready this weekend.

Goodlaura
04-28-2016, 07:30 PM
Thanks a lot!!!

Petros
04-29-2016, 10:17 AM
Fantastic upload!
Thank you for your great work, tehƧP@ƦKly†ANK™ -Ⅲ�!
I'm looking forward to the commentary.

Calidoran
04-29-2016, 12:19 PM
Sad to see this getting so little attention. This is lossless compared to the recording sessions that are not. So many ignorant (and quite frankly, stupid) users shy away from anything called "Isolated Score" because of the totally wrong connection to a rip of the default audio stream with speech and sfx. You would get a whole lot more attention, views and reps by calling it "Complete". Even though anything called "complete" could be of really shitty quality, people come swarming like flies. But i guess that stands to reason... :-P

markcope1961
04-29-2016, 01:56 PM
Calidoran, the best thing tehƧP@ƦKly†ANK™ -Ⅲ� can take away from sharing something like this, is to know that that, for those who really do appreciate Sonic Quality coupled with Superb Music, this post is a Jewel Of Utter Perfection and very much appreciated.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
04-29-2016, 04:55 PM
Added commentary to the first post.

For some reason it got a 5.1 upgrade. The music in the center is not distinct from music from the front channels. So it seems kind of odd they would upmix it to 5.1 when a 3.0 would have worked better (stereo music + commentary in center channel).

reptar
04-30-2016, 01:44 AM
Thanks for the commentary! Wish composers would do more of these.

gundom
04-30-2016, 02:09 AM
Thank you share!

Yen_
04-30-2016, 02:17 AM
Many thanks for the music commentary SparkTank. The music quality sounds great on my laptop too.

SilentWitness01
04-30-2016, 09:37 AM
Wow, is this any different from the isolated score that was on the previous DVD? That one was great but still sported the same dynamics from the music mix within the movie. Not sure if "studio procuced" and "different from isolated edits" means that these are actual session elements or just that the studio officially produced this release. It would seem odd if they went back to completely reproduce an isolated score with new elements when they already had one on the old DVD (which did include a few edits). Anyway, it this should be a treat for any Goldenthal fan, especially since there is some music in the isolated score which can not be found in the sessions.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
04-30-2016, 07:27 PM
isolated edits

That's reference to some projects out there where people take bluray audio from the main feature audio (dialogue, sfx, et all) and then try to "isolate" music from it.
Which doesn't make it an isolated score, but some people call that work as such.
Faleel does bluray edits, but he stipulates sfx is included since it all can't be removed. And some people called his work an isolated score, since, technically, he did try to isolate the music from sfx/etc. But then they used "isolated edit" as a term, which we don't have and seems to be more apt.

"studio produced" just means this is an official isolated score from the studios. Not a fan project.

SilentWitness
05-04-2016, 04:35 PM
Thanks for clarifying. I guess Goldenthal completists should get both the sessions and the official isolated score, as both feature music that is not included in the other version. The same goes for the official soundtrack.

Petros
05-04-2016, 05:05 PM
You are right, SparkTank:
The commentary by Elliot Goldenthal is a real treat!
Thank you so much!

Rumpler
05-04-2016, 07:56 PM
I got the Bluray of this wonderful film, but never managed to extract the audio, haha. But the ISO is nicely done, did you notice the slight orchestra talking and rehearsal sounds in between the cues, during silence? You get it they came from a musical point of view while creating this.
So thanks a lot for this great effort!

reppa35
05-04-2016, 11:09 PM
Thanks for the share. What you share keeps with me only.