timbox129
01-30-2016, 01:32 AM
This may not be Dexter�s Odyssey or something, but for a very long time, I�ve always wanted to someday create a live action/animated movie along the lines of Robert Zemeckis� 1988 toon comedy/murder mystery thriller mashup Who Framed Roger Rabbit (at least in terms of the interactions between humans and toons), except that it would also be an epic action adventure and a fantasy as well as a road trip, a head trip, a heroic questing journey, and sometimes an emotional love story or something, because I�d wanted to someday create a familiar type of epic adventure in an unfamiliar kind of way, probably by portraying a 2d hand drawn toon hero at the heart of an epic tale, along with a great supporting cast of live action human and animated cartoon characters.



The story will be by design both classic and epic in its broad strokes but hopefully I�ll have many twists and turns in store for the audience.

Not only is it going to be a far more dramatically epic variation on the likes of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, but also an even more ambitious epic film project than the likes of James Cameron�s AVATAR movie or Peter Jackson�s three Lord of the Rings movies�certainly among the most ambitious movie projects ever attempted in cinema history.



Now, the quality of the storytelling had recently started to greatly degenerate as the technology started to progress; it is almost universally accepted and regular for a big Hollywood blockbuster movie to be just an eye candy; a nice package with nothing really good inside.

The big summer blockbusters that cost a fortune these days universally synonymous with empty characters and no real story or heart. It�s now the rule of style over substance and seldom films broke that rule like Peter Jackson�s LOTR and King Kong movies, but at best they�re just rare examples and instances where the story itself is as strong as the visuals and where the story is actually present in a big budget extravaganza.

Another thing worth mentioned is the state of current storytelling in general: for some reason (like the 9/11 attacks in 2001), the rotten became popular, and the pure and good are coming under attack. Movies that dealt with darkness, sadism, cruelty, and grim, unresolved endings are most popular in recent years after 9/11, and their numbers are so strong that we almost forgot about the old fashioned storytelling�stories that does not dealt with crime and the dark and depressing side of reality. Gore, dark mood, sadism and depression (elements that seem to be favored by today�s youth and almost guarantee the popularity of any movie) are ever present in modern moviemaking as well.

This as of yet untitled live action/animated epic adventure with humans, toons, and possibly dinosaurs, is, like James Cameron�s AVATAR before it, a return to classic old school storytelling for the basic premise is a simple but heartwarming story that has been used several time before for thousands of years in some of the greatest stories like The Illiad and the Odyssey, Le Morte D�arthur, War and Peace, Les Miserables and the Lord of the Rings among them.

My planned live action/animated epic project is also just what we needed now: an original franchise, not a remake, not a sequel, not even a reboot of, say, Roger Rabbit. Which makes it a very brave move and also a much needed breath of fresh air in times when cinema is permeated with darkness, and it will go in the opposite direction of what�s been mainstream lately not only with its classic approach of timeless storytelling with good values, but also by creating a vibrant and colorful series of visuals and bringing back the most classic happy ending possible�which is previously unseen outside animated movies especially from a studio like Disney or Pixar�even showing a character flying or riding off into the sunset as one of its last scenes.

But it won�t simply be my original atonement to James Cameron�s derivative space opera, which AVATAR was�but rather possibly my own spirited defense of James Cameron�s right to make�and to conceive the concept for�AVATAR in the first place. For you see, both James Cameron�s AVATAR and my live action/animated epic adventure with humans and toons are actually cut from the same cloth in terms of scale, ambition, and storytelling, the big grand epic scale and ambition and storytelling techniques and values might be similar.

Anyway, I�ll also have fun with the layout and design for my live action/animated humans and toons epic: for example, my humans and toons epic (which may portray a 2d hand drawn humanoid toon hero at the very heart and center of a sprawling epic story) might start off with a muted and earthen-ed color palette and a standard 1.85:1 aspect ratio (which Roger Rabbit was presented in), but then, probably at the moment when my 2d hand drawn humanoid toon hero at the heart of an epic tale sets off on his journey or something, the color palette would not only brightened to more saturated colors, but the screen might also widen all the way to a 2.35:1 Cinemascope widescreen format, thus opening up the rich vistas of a big, grand, sweepingly epic world to our startled eyes.

Again, I wanted my main character, my central protagonist and my primary hero at the very heart and center of a sprawling epic story to be a 2d traditional hand drawn �toon�, not only that, but the animation and design work on my heroic humanoid toon lead�whether male or female�might deviate from the smooth Disney-style movement that Americans typically associate with hand-drawn feature animation�more on a par with Samurai Jack and Dexter�s Laboratory�s design and animation work.

Also, the first key to all the differences between humans and toons in my movie project might always be�and always will be�language. Not only I wanted my toons�or Toona�kaiya as my story might also refer to them�to have their own complex living culture�given that the world of my movie might be richer, bigger, grander, and more sweepingly epic in vista than even the bright and cheery Toontown of Roger Rabbit�but also their own language, which may be taken from bits of Polynesian, African or even Japanese tongues or so, making the Toon language in my movie my very own Klingon or Dothraki, and the voice actors providing the voice of toona�kaiya characters would have to master it.

And I know it�ll be a rarity for any kinds of animation or for any kind of live action/animation hybrid, but if the humanoid toon hero at the heart of my epic tale happens to be female and/or Asian or something, then that�ll make the main character of my humans and toons epic all the rarer and more unique.

My humans and toons epic might be no comedy or murder mystery thriller, for it is rather an epic action adventure, a fantasy, a road trip, a head trip, a heroic questing journey, and even an emotional love story all in one mammoth epic film production project which is not only a more dramatically epic version of Who Framed Roger Rabbit and the like, but also an even more ambitious movie project than the likes of Lord of the Rings and AVATAR combined, making my humans and toons epic among the most ambitious movie projects ever attempted in the history of film art.

I know it is a very long post, and you ladies and gentlemen don't have to read all of it if you want to, and I also know I still have a long way to go, but what would you think of all that?

Momonoki
01-30-2016, 01:56 AM
I hate roger rabbit.

HunterTech
01-30-2016, 09:37 AM
I hate roger rabbit.

All those words written and that's all you say? Why?

CLONEMASTER 6.53
01-30-2016, 10:05 AM
All those words written and that's all you say? Why?

She appears to be expressing a simple thought, an opinion.

I've nothing against that, though I don't necessarily agree with the statement :p

ROKUSHO
01-30-2016, 10:46 AM
so you want to make a good version of cool world then?

timbox129
01-30-2016, 02:56 PM
so you want to make a good version of cool world then?

Yes, probably, but on a much bigger, grander, more dramatically sweeping epic scale and scope.

Since the main character and his love interest are supposed to be 2D hand drawn toons in my humans n' toons epic project, I wanted to focus the story not just on the humans (like Roger Rabbit's Eddie Valiant or Cool World's Frank Harris), but on cartoon characters that may fit within narrow design parameters (though their looks and animation and design work might make them look like they'll come straight out of Samurai Jack or Dexter's Laboratory, a factor which may deviate the toons from the kind of smooth Disney-style movement that Americans typically associate with hand-drawn feature animation): The Toona'k�iya, a sentient species of 2D traditionally hand drawn animated cartoon characters with human-like features or something like that, complete with their own living culture and especially their own language, which may, much like the Na'vi alien language in James Cameron's AVATAR, mix bits of African and Polynesian but also Japanese tongues or things like that.

If the Toona'k�iya were more human than I wanted them to be, they could be done with mostly Caucasian live actors (or even rendered in 3D CGI), which may be boring, would not advance the cause, and had already ruined so many big screen adaptations or reboots of so many popular classic and contemporary animated cartoons (M. Night Shyamalan's Last Airbender and 2015's Jem and the Holograms being among the most notorious examples). If they were less human, they could not have been performed by human actors or rendered in CG effectively; they would have to be brought to life with animation artists that are actors with pencils (or computer mouses), probably using the technique that may work best for the Toona'k�iya characters: probably 2D traditional hand drawn animation.

Oh, and the word 'toona'k�iya' may sound strange or weird, but it's actually an exotic combination of the word 'toon' which is Roger Rabbit slang for 'cartoon character', and 'Kaiya', which is a Japanese word which usually means 'forgiveness'.

And BTW, my main central lead character at the heart of my epic tale may also be a young 2D hand drawn Toon (who may look like he'll come straight from Samurai Jack or Dexter's Lab, unlike the smooth, Disney-style movement that Americans like me usually associate with hand drawn feature animation) with humanlike features (and probably a teenager or young adult, as well as unlike the much wilder toons of Roger Rabbit or Cool World) who unwittingly becomes a wandering epic hero who holds the fate of a big, grand, sweeping, epic world in his cartoon hands.

HeadphonesGirl
01-30-2016, 05:36 PM
I hate roger rabbit.

I've never seen Roger Rabbit

What do you dislike about it

TheSkeletonMan939
01-30-2016, 05:50 PM
I hate roger rabbit.

Even the Daffy vs. Donald fight?

Momonoki
01-30-2016, 08:23 PM
I've never seen Roger Rabbit

What do you dislike about it

It scared the shit out of me as a kid.

timbox129
01-30-2016, 08:44 PM
It scared the shit out of me as a kid.

Well, it's mainly because of Judge Doom (who is technically a toon in the guise of a human) and his toon-destroying 'DDDDDDIIIIIIIPPPP!!!!' (to quote Jessica's blood curdling yell/scream, perhaps) and all that, isn't it?

HeadphonesGirl
01-31-2016, 12:45 AM
It scared the shit out of me as a kid.

Got it. I feel that way about Willy Wonka

HunterTech
01-31-2016, 08:46 AM
She appears to be expressing a simple thought, an opinion.

I've nothing against that, though I don't necessarily agree with the statement :p

I'm well aware of that. It was more in the case that I thought it was unrelated to this thread at that time, though it makes more sense now. Had to clear it up.

Penguin
02-05-2016, 06:05 AM
Didn't you post this up before years back?