View Full Version : Thread 198212">BEN-HUR (MIKL�S R�ZSA) - 24 BIT REMASTERED EDITION (1959-2015) - FLAC



nachoherrmann
12-27-2015, 03:11 PM


Audio: FLAC
Size: 1,16 GB


https://mega.nz/#!uRl3iALL!WNnBwusJmHeMn4REZ5ugPjp4ciC6XwDIdTXZq7eTqro

COMPLETE COVERS


https://mega.nz/#!iFtikCBS!JLvAwl7c-vrJaQmOL64bW1acuvxPnXa2hE7BeilBUvM

CD1:

01 OVERTURE
02 ANNO DOMINI
03 STAR OF BETHLEHEM/ADORATION OF THE MAGI
04 SHOFAR CALL
05 FANFARE TO PRELUDE/PRELUDE/MARCIA ROMANA
06 SPIRIT AND SWORD
07 SALUTE FOR MESSALA
08 FRIENDSHIP
09 THE HOUSE OF HUR
10 CONFLICT
11 ESTHER
12 THE UNKNOWN FUTURE
13 LOVE THEME/RING FOR FREEDOM
14 SALUTE FOR GRATUS
15 GRATUS� ENTRY TO JERUSALEM
16 ARREST
17 REMINISCENCES
18 CONDEMNED
19 ESCAPE
20 VENGEANCE
21 THE PRISON �PARTS 1 & 2
22 THE DESERT/EXHAUSTION/THE PRINCE OF PEACE/ROMAN GALLEY
23 SALUTE FOR ARRIUS
24 QUINTUS ARRIUS
25 ROMAN FLEET
26 THE GALLEY
27 REST
28 BATTLE PREPARATIONS/THE PIRATE FLEET/ATTACK!/RAMMING SPEED /BATTLE RESCUE
29 ROMAN SAILS
30 THE ROWERS
31 VICTORY PARADE
32 VICTORY FINALE

TOTAL TIME: 72:02 Min.



CD 2:

01 FERTILITY DANCE
02 ARRIUS� PARTY
03 NOSTALGIA/FAREWELL TO ROME
04 A BARREN COAST
05 JUDEA/BALTHAZAR
06 BALTHAZAR�S WORLD
07 HOMECOMING
08 MEMORIES/HATRED
09 LEPERS
10 RETURN/PROMISE
11 SORROW AND INTERMISSION
12 ENTR�ACTE
13 PANEM ET CIRCENSES #1
14 CIRCUS FANFARES #1-4
15 PANEM ET CIRCENSES #2
16 NEW FANFARE (#5) FOR CIRCUS PARADE/CIRCUS PARADE (PARADE OF THE CHARIOTEERS)
17 CIRCUS FANFARE #6 (FANFARE FOR START OF RACE)
18 PANEM ET CIRCENSES #3
19 CIRCUS FANFARE #7 (BEN-HUR CROWNED)
20 BITTER TRIUMPH
21 AFTERMATH
22 VALLEY OF LEPERS/THE SEARCH
23 THE UNCLEANS
24 ROAD OF SORROW
25 THE MOUNT/THE SERMON
26 FRUSTRATION
27 VALLEY OF THE DEAD/TIRZAH SAVED
28 THE PROCESSION TO CALVARY/THE BEARING OF THE CROSS/RECOGNITION
29 AFTERMATH (CRUCIFIXION)
30 GOLGOTHA
31 SHADOW OF A STORM
32 THE MIRACLE/FINALE
& 3 BONUS TRACKS FROM CARLO SAVINA'S VERSION:
33. Prelude 3:23
34. Love Theme 2:49
35. The Miracle and Finale 3:37

TOTAL TIME: 77:54 Min.

BONUS THEMES FROM


1. Fanfare To Prelude
2. Star Of Bethlehem And Adoration Of The Magi
3. Friendship
4. The Burning Desert
5. Arrius' Party
6. Rowing Of The Galley Slaves
7. Parade Of The Charioteers
8. The Mother's Love
9. Return To Judea
10. Ring Of Freedom (Love Theme)
11. Leper's Search For The Christ
12. Procession To Calvary
13. Miracle And Finale



1. Ben-Hur: Overture
2. Ben-Hur: Star Of Bethlehem/Adoration Of The Magi
3. Ben-Hur: Rowing Of The Galley Slaves
4. Ben-Hur: Alleluia
5. Ben-Hur: Parade Of The Charioteers
6. Ben-Hur: Miracle And Finale

Elkesipeplos
12-27-2015, 04:05 PM
thanks

JudyBarton
12-27-2015, 05:00 PM
Wow, did not knew this was released. Is this for real, I mean 24-Bit?

bond89
12-27-2015, 05:04 PM
Thanks!

ded51
12-27-2015, 05:17 PM
Thanks and Happy new year in advance

nachoherrmann
12-27-2015, 09:03 PM
Yes. 24 Bit!!
Wow, did not knew this was released. Is this for real, I mean 24-Bit?

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Thank you and, of course, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
Thanks and Happy new year in advance

Pablo82
12-27-2015, 09:07 PM
Awesome!!!... Millon thanks, Nacho!!!.... :)

lupin3xx
12-27-2015, 10:46 PM
fantastic share! thank you

samy013
12-28-2015, 12:50 AM
Thank you share!

pjmontana
12-28-2015, 03:10 AM
Thank you nachoherrmann for posting what could be the greatest film score ever written in hi-rez 24bit audio.

GreatKenji
12-28-2015, 04:17 AM
Thank you very much!

Lukas70
12-28-2015, 08:33 AM
Thanks a lot!

ffreyonn
12-28-2015, 09:11 AM
Wow, did not knew this was released.http://eliteautoloan.com/12ce15.jpghttp://eliteautoloan.com/ht11.jpg

vitopater
12-28-2015, 11:07 AM
MAny thancks forr this. Label of CD?

miklos
12-28-2015, 12:19 PM
Many thanks for this download. What label is this? Can't find a 24-bit transfer listed at Soundtrack Collector (http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/6458/Ben-Hur) or Discogs (http://www.discogs.com/Miklos-Rozsa-Ben-Hur/master/266637). I am curious to know more...... BTW - All The Best for 2016 :-)

Yen_
12-28-2015, 12:19 PM
Many thanks for sharing this 2015 Soundtrack Factory edition. Do you also have the 16-page booklet please?

The 2-CD set has no track titles so I am going to tag them. You don't say what the three bonus Savina-conducted tracks are on the second disc, can you confirm they are:
33. Prelude 3:23
34. Love Theme 2:49
35. The Miracle and Finale 3:37

nachoherrmann
12-28-2015, 12:23 PM
Thanks!! Yes, the bonus tracks are in the second CD. About the covers, I'll try.
Many thanks for sharing this 2015 Soundtrack Factory edition. Do you also have the 16-page booklet please?

The 2-CD set has no track titles so I am going to tag them. You don't say what the three bonus Savina-conducted tracks are on the second disc, can you confirm they are:
33. Prelude 3:23
34. Love Theme 2:49
35. The Miracle and Finale 3:37

powaquatsi
12-28-2015, 12:30 PM
Thanks but exactly the same quality than the 2012 FSM 5CDs edition.

Petros
12-28-2015, 12:54 PM
Thank you so much for your great upload!

nachoherrmann
12-28-2015, 03:28 PM
I don't know the quality of the FSM's version, but this version is 24 bit (CD information). But perhaps this is 16 bits.
Thanks but exactly the same quality than the 2012 FSM 5CDs edition.

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Complete covers added.



tangotreats
12-28-2015, 04:09 PM
*sigh*

CD never has, doesn't, and never can contain 24-bit audio - it is 16-bit. This is a 16-bit release. 24-bit refers to the digital remastering, which was made at the higher resolution and then dithered down to 16-bit for release. Every single digital remastering of perhaps the last twenty years has routinely done this.

Furthermore, this is a straight re-pressing of the first two discs of the FSM edition - ie, it is bit identical - whether it is a legitimate release or not I don't know, but wherever it comes from it remains a duplicate of the FSM edition - which cannot be posted here. Soundtrack Factory seems to be Japanese, but the CD says "made in the EU" and the barcode is from Spain.

Additionally, the 1977 Decca re-recording is available in significantly better quality in Decca's own release from the master tapes.

scoremaniatic
12-28-2015, 04:58 PM
Thank you very much !

reppa35
12-28-2015, 07:37 PM
Thank you.

SHAPY
12-28-2015, 07:42 PM
thanks a lot

Anocha Suwichakornpong
12-28-2015, 08:51 PM
Sound is atrocious. Thanks a ton.

nachoherrmann
12-28-2015, 08:59 PM
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Sound is atrocious. Thanks a ton.

soundtrekker
12-28-2015, 10:04 PM
Sound is atrocious. Thanks a ton.

Check your equipment, make a few adjustments, and try again... if that helps, say "thanks TWO tons"! ;)

(if it doesn't, check your ears...)

Thanks for sharing this, nachoherrmann!

Yen_
12-29-2015, 12:13 AM
Thank you for the booklet Nacho.

it15
12-29-2015, 08:29 AM
Thanks!

nachoherrmann
12-29-2015, 11:27 AM
Thanks!!
Check your equipment, make a few adjustments, and try again... if that helps, say "thanks TWO tons"! ;)

(if it doesn't, check your ears...)

Thanks for sharing this, nachoherrmann!

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I hope that the booklet is correct.
Thank you for the booklet Nacho.

JudyBarton
12-31-2015, 02:09 AM
Thank you for your great contribution nacho!

Bluemax2871
01-01-2016, 11:57 PM
*sigh*
Additionally, the 1977 Decca re-recording is available in significantly better quality in Decca's own release from the master tapes.

I couldn�t disagree more. The VOCALION (which is a sub label of DUTTON) album has been made from the same master tapes as DECCA�s own release. The VOCALION CD offers a more state of the art remastering that finally leaves a great portion of the tape hiss inherent in most Phase-4 recordings aside and gives you the pure joy of the music with no limitation of frequencies or dynamics whatsoever. I compared both releases (haven�t heard the Australian eloquence re-release though) and sold my old DECCA-CDs afterwards. If you are a connoisseur of historical classical recordings DUTTON is a name you will come across sooner or later for their fine remastering.

tangotreats
01-02-2016, 12:31 AM
I have been a fan of Mike Dutton's work for the best part of twenty years and considered him, for many years, the last word in remastering, and I am proud to have a number of Dutton's recordings; I have also provided financial support for some of their modern classical recordings.

The Vocalion re-mastering of Ben Hur is, however, not Dutton's best work nor has it been made from the master tape, unless some horrific mistake was made during the transfer, that is. (Dutton's own website does not outright state that the album is a remaster from vinyl, but implies it by referring to the LP's catalogue number. Additionally, Dutton is not known for licensing master tapes, but he IS known for remastering vinyl and shellac source material...

I didn't know Eloquence did a re-release for this one... I wonder why? It's not like it's been out of the catalogue particularly over the years...

If I may enter for comparison purposes:

https://mega.nz/#!RsQyDTjZ!vJDCTsHPtDbjH0lm2eyIp6cMNhPXUsHmfPvITjqGxGM

I believe the superiority of the Decca edition is clear. The range of frequencies presented in the Decca is higher - and Dutton has a consistent drop-out between about 12 and 12khz which looks like an attempt to notch-filter some kind of noise; suggesting a vinyl transfer or a sub-par tape transfer during which noise was introduced. Dynamic range is about even Stevens for the two.

Kindly observe the following example from the first track:



I have absolute respect for your comments... I can only assume that either a) what's in this thread ISN'T actually the Vocalion, b) you are comparing with a different, poorer, Decca remastering... (My copy is from the recent Decca Phase Four boxset - I also have the 1985 CD debut which is identical. Has it been released again by somebody else, perhaps?)

Thoughts very, very much welcome. :)

Bluemax2871
01-02-2016, 01:57 AM
I have absolute respect for your comments... I can only assume that either a) what's in this thread ISN'T actually the Vocalion, b) you are comparing with a different, poorer, Decca remastering... (My copy is from the recent Decca Phase Four boxset - I also have the 1985 CD debut which is identical. Has it been released again by somebody else, perhaps?)
Thoughts very, very much welcome. :)

I compared the Vocalion release (which I have as an original and didn�t download here) with the 1985 DECCA CD. I�ve realised the same difference in the spectral analysis of the WAVs but do like the sound of the Vocalion more....subjectively. To me it comes across even warmer with lower frequencies being a bit more prominent while mids and highs don�t suffer because of the filtering. I think it�s one thing to compare the pure technical (spectral) side and the listening experience. Here of course everybody has different tastes. I�m mostly very disappointed with new expanded releases of scores because they lack the impact of the lower frequencies and are often "proud participants" of the loudness war (Varese especially comes to mind.....shudder).
I believe Dutton did quite a few licensed releases in the past. The Barbirolli series comes to mind. But I have to agree: he�s best (if not the best at all....the true wizards for me are Mark Obert-Thorn and Ward Marston) at transferring old historical 78s.
Australian Eloquence has been releasing quite a few treasures during the last couple of years. Including Bernard Herrmann's own Phase 4 film score albums nicely condensed to two double CDs and his interesting take on Holst's "The Planets" plus numerous classic recordings of the DECCA catalogue which haven�t been available for quite some time. "Ben Hur" and "Quo Vadis" were released as a double CD including Herrmann's recording of a few tracks from "Julius Caesar". I�m not sure if these have been newly remastered for this release (which is only available as an import but at good prices through Amazon) but some of the Herrmann recordings do seem to sound a bit better compared to my first generation DECCA-CDs. I might get the Rozsa album for a new comparison and will let you know.

tangotreats
01-02-2016, 02:57 AM
As far as the loudness war goes, everybody (in soundtrack land) is getting in on the fun, but you're right, Varese are definitely the worst and they've been up to it longer than their competitors. Inevitably "digitally remastered" these days seems to be code for "louder and bassier". Back in the classical world, it's done VERY occasionally, but it's still very much the exception. Even the "populist" labels are playing nice.

I think the Vocalion sounds a little less... I don't know, perhaps the word is "harsh"... than the Decca, but then that's what Decca sounded like back then - particularly good old Phase 4, which I usually wouldn't touch with a 40 foot pole. (Not for my "first choice" recording in a classical piece, anyway - some of the albums, most notably the film music ones you spoke of, are interesting even if I find the obsessive Phase 4 mixing-desk-dithering to be hard going at times.

I still think the Vocalion represents a step back and that the Decca represents a "better" quality version of the original recording. :)

I am usually dead-set against sound quality arguments that involve looking at pictures of spectrographs; the real listening is, of course, done with the ear - but I do find them useful in cases like this to make purely technical observations. "I like this" versus "I like that" arguments are academic; you and I have different ears, and different preferences when it comes to sound quality. I don't like the Vocalion - to me, it sounds constricted and muffled (a symptom of the frequency dropoff not present in the Decca) - but I do accept that it has a little less of that old Decca sensation I sometimes get - that of the recording engineer punching me in the face as I listen whilst yelling "LISTEN TO THE TREBLE RESPONSE!!!!!!!! TREBLE TREBLE TREBLE! EMI SUCKS, WE RULE!!!"

I have that Herrmann recording of Holst (the Eloquence, coupled with Egdon Heath and a few others) - I honestly can't make up my mind about it. Do you like it?

Imperivm
01-02-2016, 01:40 PM
Thanks!

Drosophila
01-02-2016, 07:08 PM
Thanks for this flac-version!

Bluemax2871
01-03-2016, 12:43 AM
I have that Herrmann recording of Holst (the Eloquence, coupled with Egdon Heath and a few others) - I honestly can't make up my mind about it. Do you like it?

I�m still not sure if I actually like it. It�s different for sure. Herrmann's choice of slow tempo in his last few years is also evident in his film music recordings. There I actually welcome it because it reveals more details of his brilliant scores. Regarding the Holst piece the slow tempo hurts the weaker parts of the piece especially "Venus" becomes a bore and "Mars" loses its ferocity and brutality. But "Saturn" and "Neptune" are greatly improved. Those two pieces are usually taken too fast for my taste in many recordings I have heard. With Herrmann they gain added mystery and nobility. My desert island choice for "The Planets" is and always will be Andr� Previn's marvellous recording with the LSO for EMI which I have as an audio DVD in a pristine 24/96 mastering. The regular CD cannot compare to that :-) If you don�t know this one I could share it with you.

tangotreats
01-03-2016, 04:48 AM
My favourite Planets is Boult's 1978 with the LPO, with Oramo's 2000 live recording a close second, which has possibly the slowest Saturn on record. Boult is surprisingly fast in Saturn but it doesn't sound fast.

So many conductors either rush it (Albert Coates...) and it ends up sounding like it belongs on Benny Hill, or they go completely the over way and move at a glacial tempo. Saturn and Neptune, as you say, need to be slow - Saturn particularly - but I think the others flourish with a tempo brisker than Herrmann gives them. You mentioning this as a Herrmann trademark made me think of his re-recording of Jason And The Argonauts... he took that so slow it almost stopped and started going backwards!

I think I need to sit down with Herrmann's Planets again... :)

Do you refer to Previn's 1973 Planets? I don't think I've heard it... I did have his 1980s digital "remake" but I think I sold it.

I found a torrent of the DVDA remastering - I believe it's the one you speak of. It's downloading now, but slowly...

your_majesty
01-03-2016, 10:38 AM
Thanks

Bluemax2871
01-04-2016, 12:06 AM
My favourite Planets is Boult's 1978 with the LPO, with Oramo's 2000 live recording a close second, which has possibly the slowest Saturn on record. Boult is surprisingly fast in Saturn but it doesn't sound fast.
Do you refer to Previn's 1973 Planets? I don't think I've heard it... I did have his 1980s digital "remake" but I think I sold it.

I had the Boult recording a while ago and it didn�t agree with me at all. It wasn�t just the tempo but the sound of the recording as well....just didn�t like it. I have another Boult version he made in the 50s for Westminster. The sound is marvellous but the playing of the orchestra isn�t as slick and perfect as in the other one since Westminster couldn�t afford first rate orchestras for the most part (here it is the Vienne State Opera Orchestra, the same one Hermann Scherchen did a lot of his recordings for Westminster with).
Since "The Planets" are one of my "guilty pleasures" in classical music I have quite a few recordings. After Previn's (yes it�s the 73 recording in glorious analogue sound :-)) among my favourites are Karajan with the VPO and Zubin Mehta with the LA Philharmonic (both DECCA), William Steinberg with the Boston Symphony (Deutsche Grammophon) and two lesser known incarnations, both with the RPO under the baton of Sir Charles Groves or Vernon Handley. The Handley was issued as a very nice sounding SACD on the RPO label.
Talking about brisk and fast tempo....have you ever heard Holst�s own electric recording? He is FAST! The fastest in my collection is the Steinberg. But with him it�s like with Toscanini and what you said about Boult: it doesn�t sound fast at all!
Previn's Telarc version of "The Planets" I didn�t like either....lightning rarely strikes twice I guess. It�s like with his recording of Walton's first symphony......the old RCA recording from the 60s is far superior to his Telarc remake.
If you are still having trouble downloading I could do a Mega upload. Just let me know if you prefer the unaltered 24bit/96kHz WAVs or want me to convert them to CD standard.

uncut1
01-05-2016, 02:56 AM
thank you

starwatcher
01-05-2016, 03:46 AM
Many thanks!

Memorable John
01-05-2016, 11:08 PM
I had the Boult recording a while ago and it didn�t agree with me at all. It wasn�t just the tempo but the sound of the recording as well....just didn�t like it. I have another Boult version he made in the 50s for Westminster. The sound is marvellous but the playing of the orchestra isn�t as slick and perfect as in the other one since Westminster couldn�t afford first rate orchestras for the most part (here it is the Vienne State Opera Orchestra, the same one Hermann Scherchen did a lot of his recordings for Westminster with).
Since "The Planets" are one of my "guilty pleasures" in classical music I have quite a few recordings. After Previn's (yes it�s the 73 recording in glorious analogue sound :-)) among my favourites are Karajan with the VPO and Zubin Mehta with the LA Philharmonic (both DECCA), William Steinberg with the Boston Symphony (Deutsche Grammophon) and two lesser known incarnations, both with the RPO under the baton of Sir Charles Groves or Vernon Handley. The Handley was issued as a very nice sounding SACD on the RPO label.
Talking about brisk and fast tempo....have you ever heard Holst�s own electric recording? He is FAST! The fastest in my collection is the Steinberg. But with him it�s like with Toscanini and what you said about Boult: it doesn�t sound fast at all!
Previn's Telarc version of "The Planets" I didn�t like either....lightning rarely strikes twice I guess. It�s like with his recording of Walton's first symphony......the old RCA recording from the 60s is far superior to his Telarc remake.
If you are still having trouble downloading I could do a Mega upload. Just let me know if you prefer the unaltered 24bit/96kHz WAVs or want me to convert them to CD standard.

I have over 25-30 releases/recordings of Holst's 'Planets' digitalized (including several Mehta/LAPO editions from DECCA). Let me know if any of you are looking for something specific, perhaps I'll be able to help. Yes, Steinberg/BSO is amazing not only due to his energetic tempo but also bright DG sound which fits music style perfectly. There are 2 Karajan recordings, most people prefer the one he made with Berliner Philharmoniker I think.

Zbranek001
01-05-2016, 11:10 PM
Thanks for your work..

jakegittis
01-05-2016, 11:26 PM
Thanks for the share.

NeoSaga
01-25-2016, 07:48 PM
Thank you From this breathless soundtrack, a majestic compilation.
as others said here Tons of Brilliant works of Magnificent Mikl�s R�zsa

cortezz
12-13-2016, 01:54 AM
nachoherrmann,

thank you very much!

Three Wishes
12-13-2016, 02:28 AM
Many thanks nachoherrmann for sharing BEN-HUR (Miklos Rozsa) - 24 Bit Remastered Edition ;-) I gave you a rep.

allitarip
02-08-2018, 09:20 PM
Link is dead. Could anybody re-share please?
Thank you guys in advance....

sunhilow
06-30-2019, 07:56 PM
Are there any links yet? I would be very grateful if you could send me this jewel, Thank you very much.