danielnrg
10-25-2015, 11:47 PM
Hi, I've downloaded recording sessions for both movies, but there are still some cues that play in the movie not present in these sessions, which I found was odd because I thought recording sessions are supposed to include all the music recorded for the movie. but alas...

End Credits music is not complete in the AWE sessions, where only the drink up me hearties and one day cues are included, absent the hoist the colours suite. This isnt very problematic as I've found my own high quality version to use, but still odd that it wasnt present.
CoTBP only includes the soundtrack version of He's a pirate, at 1:30 which is nowhere near complete. I'm waiting on a download link for the quadrilogy outros so I can get this mix.
CoTBP includes the full score for the barbossa vs jack fight, but in the cue "bloody pirates" at the end when barbossa aims his gun at elizabeth and the drums stsrt playing, they are different in the movie than in the sessions. the movie sounds like it has timpanis, or at least drums with more punch and more cymbal clashes, theres also a sound right at the end that I think is used with strings (you know those sting sounds they use in top chef and shit for suspense, youll know it if you watch that scene in the movie and pay attention to the music) and the sessions drums sound pathetic in comparison. this makes me mad because that scene had so much tension and buildup and the drums were a part of it, and the sessions sound like someone tapping on trash cans.
And the last four cues missing are from AWE. First, the movie version of Parlay is neither the soundtrack version nor the alternate sessions version, but isnt included in the sessions. I found a very low quality (but sfx-free) rip on youtube, but I post it here on the hopes that someone has a higher quality version.
Also, the small 25 second cue when davy kills mercer is absent as well, but I found that on youtube sfx free.
there are two cues from AWE which still elude me: the film version of maelstrom part 2 (neither the "film version" nor the alternate on sessions is movie-accurate. the alt is closest but still has flaws.) and the music when will is talking to boostrap and he tells him he's free.
Most of these inaccuracies I observed by watching the movie shot-by-shot and comparing it with its sessions counterpart. One thing that I havent done is examine all the alternates, and make sure that everything is movie-accurate. You can confirm my observations by doing the same.
What I am asking is if anyone has these cues, or if anyone else noticed their absence.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-25-2015, 11:58 PM
We've always known that AWE was missing four or five cues in the sessions leak.

Besides, a lot of these sorts of films tend to change the music to fit the scene in a better way. Like dialing an instrument up or down.

Getting these film versions would likely require diving into the film's sound mix and seeing what can be ripped cleanly. Dimensioner did (almost) full film rips of DMC and AWE, but seeing as he's currently inactive and his links are dead, someone will likely have to rip those segments all over again.

DjawadiFan
10-26-2015, 12:36 AM
Not only POTC 1 & 3. DMC still missing around 20 minutes.
But, yes. Recording sessions are NOT supposed to include all the music recorded for the movie. How?

Most of the missing music are post-production alternates/edits been recommended by the director/composer/sound mixing...etc

For example the most common film mixes NTFC from Interstellar and Batman Chased from The Dark Knight Rises. They are huge mess by the mix editors. Now way to find them, I believe.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-26-2015, 12:43 AM
No way to find them, I believe.

Well, you'd have to find the film stems. Those I'm sure are impossible to get ahold of, though.

But DAK and I are working on a film edit of TDKR, and part of it will be me trying to rip 'Batman Chased' as best I can. We'll see how it turns out, though.

mboy114
10-26-2015, 01:10 AM
I mean I've noticed these absences but I assume that they were changed due to the sound editors and director to give the film a different feeling.

DAKoftheOTA
10-26-2015, 01:52 AM
For example the most common film mixes NTFC from Interstellar and Batman Chased from The Dark Knight Rises. They are huge mess by the mix editors. Now way to find them, I believe.

And 5m64b Optimus from Transformers.


But DAK and I were working on a film edit of TDKR, and part of it will be me trying to rip 'Batman Chased' as best I can. We'll see how it turns out, though.

Until my Mac is fixed....IF it can be fixed. I dropped it off yesterday.

James (The Disney Guy)
10-26-2015, 01:52 AM
Fingers crossed my friend!