davidj7616
12-24-2004, 02:15 AM
You know in the beginning of the game when Squall and Zell find out their squad leader for the Dollet mission is Seifer, and Quistis wishes Seifer good luck and he replies, "Save that for a bad student that needs it" and Quistis comes back and says, "Ok..Good luck Seifer", THEN Seifer is like "Add Instructor Trepe to the list.."

What is the list? Does it ever go into more detail about that? I am at the D-District prison, when Squall is being tortured by Siefer and I am going to recall a moment when Seifer states that Squall is on his "Tough-Nut-To-Crack list" Does that have anything to with it? I am just curious..because thats just been bothering me.

Also..when Seifer says that someday he is going to tell them about his ROMANTIC dream..does he mean Rinoa? Im confused and curious, someone please shed some light on this subject...please.

Agent0042
12-24-2004, 05:44 AM
The list is indeed the "Tough-Nut-To-Crack-List." You have it pinned down exactly.

The romantic dream? Not really sure about that one, but I think you're right that it does have either something to do with Rinoa, or think something to do with the whole sorceress knight thing.

starlitdragon
12-28-2004, 05:09 PM
first part right

and the romantic dream, i thought that had more to do with being a knight for the sorceress rather than rinoa - just my thought

Rapture
12-28-2004, 10:47 PM
Yeah.
I think it means the Sorceress' Knight, but I am not sure, becuase Rinoa does say that she thought she was in love with him....

Agent0042
12-28-2004, 11:26 PM
No, I think you're right. I'm pretty sure now it is the Sorceress Knight thing because of this here: "Squall, you're pitiful." "I'm sure you can imagine what happens now." "My childhood dream, fulfilled. I've become the sorceress' knight."

Rapture
12-28-2004, 11:29 PM
Yeah, but Edea treats him like shit, so it seems that it is an unrequited romantic dream.

11 squall
12-30-2004, 03:05 AM
well its not edea hes arfter, its ultamacia. and if the theroy is correct the it would make a lot of sence. theroy: ultamacia=rinoa. but thats just a theroy of corse.

Aserisz
01-05-2005, 06:48 AM
Seifer's dream wasn't to the Sorceress's Knight, but rather along those lines.
he basically wanted to be a protector of someone special, important. the scorceress just happened to fill the deed.

Squall_Bahamut
01-05-2005, 10:54 PM
Siefer has a friggin hit list! when he is the sorceress's knight and the rule the world he has some pay back!

SlavicWolfram
01-09-2005, 08:00 PM
I think the list might be Seifers shit list or it could be the tough-nut-to-crack list.
But I think Seifer also wanted to protect this particular sorceress because he knew who Edea was, Matron.

& to add this, maybe he loved Matron.

Spermking69
01-10-2005, 06:45 AM
iiiiilll, seifer LOVED MATRON? that's that nasty, freaky, "i wanna do my mamma" kinda shit. thats what i dont get, if Edea was his matron, she was like a mother to him, why the hell is SHE part of his ROMANTIC dream?

Trajet
01-10-2005, 07:29 AM
Well, I'm not going toi re-state anything about Seifer's list, but I have somethings to say about the Romantic Dream.

1. Once and for all, the dream has nothing to do with Rinoa and everything to do with the sorceress.

2. When I say the sorceress, I do not mean edea or ultimecia. I mean any sorceress.

3. To be the knight of a sorceress is too share an immensely powerful spiritual connection.

4. Seifer yearned to have an intimate relationship with someone. One big difference between Seifer and Squall, Seifer yearns for attention and acknowledgement, while Squall has built so many barriers that he is the exact opposite.

This was just my opinion and any of you can disagree with me.

Squall_Bahamut
01-10-2005, 10:25 PM
hit list iam telling you it is a hit list!

SlavicWolfram
01-13-2005, 01:36 AM
No SpermKing69, there are different types of love, I mean someone could love their mom, but that has nothin to do with having sex with her.

Well plus, when Matron was taking care of him, he was like wut 9, at that time a child has it's own thought & feeling, hence y in Star Wars they didn't want to put Ani through training because he was to old. At 9 a child would not really put a Matron as a mother figure, but merely jus a Matron.

Seifer Almasy
01-13-2005, 04:55 PM
I think they Seifer was just adding quistis to the lists, that I think everyone has in their heads, people you hate, people you like, people you love, so on so forth. In this case the bad student list. I think Sqaull was just being factual.