TheSkeletonMan939
03-15-2015, 03:17 PM
Before it shut down, TVandMoviesNow (http://www.tvandmoviesnow.com/) listed Regular Show as having a surround sound mix on Netflix. The DVDs, Web-DLs, and even the Blu-ray releases of this show come with a stereo mix.

I'd love to be able to try and remove the dialogue and SFX to get Mark Mothersbaugh's great music isolated, but I unfortunately don't have a surround sound system (maybe one day, though) to record off of. Can anyone with a surround sound setup and a Netflix account be so kind as to attempt to record the 6-channel audio (if the show truly does have a surround mix) of one episode and send the audio file to me?

It's a shame this show hasn't had its music released in any way, shape, or form yet.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-22-2015, 11:07 PM
What's especially disappointing is that the back of the Blu-ray box () lists the episodes as having a lossless 5.1 mix. The discs have 192kbps stereo, though. :(

Why they made the choice is unfathomable to me. That's like putting your movie in 480p on a Blu-ray. It's mind-bogglingly stupid.

I think Adventure Time is mixed in 5.1 too... and similarly is distributed with lossy stereo mixes.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-24-2015, 04:17 PM
TVAndMoviesNow used to take information from Netflix and other streaming services about whether the title had surround sound or not.

Regular Show and Adventure Time were listed as having a 5.1 mix. I imagine that the shows are aired on Cartoon Network with a surround mix as well.

A lot of recent TV shows have a surround mix, though not all do, unfortunately. I'd love to get the music from Young Justice and Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated... but they were mixed in stereo.

Max Rockatansky
03-26-2015, 06:11 PM
I have Netflix and a surround sound system hooked up to my Yamaha Receiver, but no clue how to record. If you can give me a general run down of how, I'd be happy to do it for you. Not even sure if the shows are in surround, but I'll play an episode when I get home this evening (7:00 EST) and report back as far as the mix is concerned.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-26-2015, 08:22 PM
Honestly, I have no clue either. :/

I was sort of hoping that the person who agreed to do it might have some idea of how to do it. At first I thought that it could be done through an HDMI connection to your computer, but then I realized most sound cards can't handle recording six channels at once - only stereo.

Forgive my ignorance, but is there a way for you to "turn off" certain speakers, or lower their volume significantly, so that you could choose to only hear sound from the rear channels, or just the front channels, etc.? I'm thinking that if we aren't sure how to record, we could at least try to confirm whether the show really is in surround sound, and if the music is isolated in the front or rear channels.

And hey, thanks for helping!

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-26-2015, 08:25 PM
If you can give me a general run down of how, I'd be happy to do it for you.

It's pretty complicated.
there's not many Netflix rips out there since the process is daunting and requires severe attention to details.
There are some Netflix rips out there, but not enough to merit that just anyone can learn how to do it.

A lot of software is required to accurately capture.
And configured properly so you don't accidentally capture with any DSP effects enabled or how you decide to capture (sound card drivers, other drivers, etc).



Regarding what gets released in stereo or surround sound, it depends on the production.

Looking at the wikipedia for Regular Show, it indicates that 2010 was the only year to have stereo.
While 2010 to present has a 5.1 surround sound mix available.

Likely the first half of the 1st season or any number of episodes from teh first season were mixed/created only with stereo in mind (for whatever reasons they had; pilot maybe).
The upgrade to 5.1 was later on, probably to finding out they were successful and not getting kicked off the air after the first episode.

Whatever reason for the DVD's, BD's and Web-DL providing only stereo, is however the studio/producers designed it.
Looking at a full bluray, it only indicates stereo mixes for the first two seasons.

It's not the first time a bluray case has been misleading.
The Canadian bluray to "Rogue" (2007) indicates 1080p while the movie is actually 1080i.
It also indicated it to have an aspect ratio of 2.40:1 while it was actually 1.78:1.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-26-2015, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the info, Sparktank (I was wondering if you had any knowledge about this matter ;)). So I guess recording is out of the question in that case.

I would imagine season 2 is when they started using a 5.1 mix (the first episode aired in 2010, so that seems to match up with the Wikipedia info).

There are some ways to record surround sound from one's XBox or PlayStation... I wonder if one could use such methods to record Netflix that is streaming on the console (since so many have built-in Hulu/Netflix/Amazon these days).

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-26-2015, 08:59 PM
People seem to use PS3 or other Sony consoles as it supports HDMI.
Decryption would be needed for the HDCP encryption.
Consoles consume the most power when viewing Netflix streams thus offers the best quality (with less drops than watching on PC).

Honestly, I think it'd be more trouble than its worth.
if every commercial product has stereo only, it's likely the 5.1 mixes are just matrixed to 5.1 (like how movies filmed/mastered with mono audio get upscaled to 5.1 and are a nuisance).

TheSkeletonMan939
03-26-2015, 09:11 PM
if every commercial product has stereo only, it's likely the 5.1 mixes are just matrixed to 5.1 (like how movies filmed/mastered with mono audio get upscaled to 5.1 and are a nuisance).

That's what I would think too, except that the Blu-ray box originally listed the release as including TrueHD 5.1... so wouldn't that mean that that's how the show was mixed in the first place in surround sound? Why bother consider having a TrueHD track if it's just upmixed?

I'm gonna try to download a TVrip with surround audio and see how it looks... I was hoping for a Netflix rip instead since that would be higher quality, but beggars can't be choosers.

But BlackGate, could you still try to see if there's a way to listen to only the front or rear channels by themselves on a season 2 episode?

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-26-2015, 09:24 PM
Why bother consider having a TrueHD track if it's just upmixed?

A lot of studios upmix to lossless.
Just how the industry thinks.

I also mentioned it could be a misprint of information.

You would have to actually get in touch with someone about the actual technical details of the show to find out what's really going on.

The US disc vs. Canadian discs could have different audio specs.
Maybe even an import from the UK or somewhere in EUR may have different audio specs.

IMDB lists that season 2 onward (not specific to episode) are available in surround sound.
Regular Show (TV Series 2009? ) - Technical Specifications - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1710308/technical)

But since none of the blurays I see have actual TrueHD...

Right now it's all just speculation.
To get an actual surround sound version, you most likely have to import from somewhere not confined to this dense industry standard in the West.

TheSkeletonMan939
04-02-2015, 02:04 PM
So here (https://mega.co.nz/#!qRF22ZgL!gn5O1sjKLwyOB4fFUr036KkzurVegR_Qczszo8Y TyJs) is a 6-channel AC3 file for episode 169/170, "The Real Thomas", captured from the broadcast. It seems more or less upmixed, but it's hard to really tell without a higher-quality source. Definite emphasis on music in the rear channels, but I can hear some dialogue creep in occasionally. :/

Max Rockatansky
04-25-2015, 11:15 PM
But BlackGate, could you still try to see if there's a way to listen to only the front or rear channels by themselves on a season 2 episode?

I totally would, but it seems that Regular show has been removed from Netflix for good :(. I'm not aware of any other streaming service that has it...

TheSkeletonMan939
04-26-2015, 07:00 PM
Ah, no worries. If the AC3 TV rip file was any indication, the music probably wasn't isolated at all anyway.

liamdude5
03-13-2016, 11:02 PM
Does anyone have a rip of a particular episode? The soundtrack intrigues me.