RaineLoire
11-15-2004, 10:28 PM
What do you think about that useless ridiculous cr-..I mean music. Its depressing and all they sing about is women,sex,money, and occasionally shoes and white t-shirts! I hate rap!!!!

Darth Pepper
11-15-2004, 10:40 PM
RAP- Retards Attempting Poetry.

Ex-SeeD
11-15-2004, 11:00 PM
Rap is my least favorite genre. Hell I don't even consider it music. The problem I have with it is that it's too sterotypical, making a false image that all people living in urban areas think or acts the way the rappers act in thier videos. Thus making some little kids act like there "ballers" or "thugs" when really their acting like dumbasses.

Other than that I hate it for the rappers(especially that Lil Jon guy, WHHHHHHHHAT! heaad explodes), and the shit they talk about (and I heard the white t-shirt and I swear to god my brain cells were almost fired)

Alpott
11-15-2004, 11:01 PM
I only like some rap when there making a point.

Neo Xzhan
11-15-2004, 11:08 PM
The lyrics might mean something but I simply cannot get into it. As far as I know there's sort of a story behind R&B, Rap, etc but whatever. I don't like the music on it's own, the video clips are close to a porn movie (without exaggarating), I dunno it's crap. ;x

pedo mc tax me softly, black person (whom i love)
11-15-2004, 11:13 PM
This thread needs TCK's stamp of approval.

Lunatic HighVII
11-15-2004, 11:35 PM
RAP- Retards Attempting Poetry.

Hahahahahaha, that's going to keep me laughing for a while.

I don't like rap myself, it seems like just noise and nonsense to me, but there are some who enjoy it. Quite a few, that I know. It's all about opinion. :)

RaineLoire
11-15-2004, 11:51 PM
I must agree with what almost all of you have said. Good points. Ex-Seed, I completely agree with you!

grn apple tree
11-16-2004, 12:55 AM
What do you think about that useless ridiculous cr-..I mean music. Its depressing and all they sing about is women,sex,money, and occasionally shoes and white t-shirts! I hate rap!!!!

no offense but rap is not always about that... yeah sure probably 90% of rap is about it but there is some just about how hard their lifes were and the (if under 13 or so don't read from here and sorry for the language i will now say) shit they've been through in their lifes thats the rap i like... it shows emotion and all that... but i must admit that rap about stupid crap like you said is pretty pointless...

TCK
11-16-2004, 01:40 AM
Sorry Odin, no stamp, even if it is very tempting.

What a lot of you are neglecting is that Dr Dre, Jay-Z, et al do not represent the entirity of the rap genre. While I'm not fond of such "PIMP MA HOES" nonsense, the actual instrumentation is part of it's appeal.

You can hate how mainstream rap is marketed, but you can't flat out hate rap.

grn apple tree
11-16-2004, 01:43 AM
What a lot of you are neglecting is that Dr Dre, Jay-Z, et al do not represent the entirity of the rap genre. While I'm not fond of such "PIMP MA HOES" nonsense, the actual instrumentation is part of it's appeal.

You can hate how mainstream rap is marketed, but you can't flat out hate rap.


what i was trying to say but better worded... so yeah certain raps aren't all about getting women and getting laid... there are some that have certain meanings that are completely different than that

RaineLoire
11-16-2004, 01:46 AM
I agree with that crystal sword. There is actually christian rap and rap about actual love. Not how much they wanted to f the girl they were inlove with(although there are many rap songs that do) I just loath it altogether.

TCK
11-16-2004, 02:14 AM
So, do you loathe rap music itself, or the subject matter?

RaineLoire
11-16-2004, 02:22 AM
I loath rap altogether

Jolie
11-16-2004, 02:28 AM
I like rap that actually has a point to it, like 1200 Techniques. I'm not interested in all that "I got mo' hoes than all you niggaz" crap. People like 50 Cent and Dr Dre have soiled the rap genre.

Alice Wonderbra
11-16-2004, 02:29 AM
i dislike most rap. however, i could listen to eminem all day (as long as it isnt one of his light happy-go-lucky singles).

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
11-16-2004, 02:48 AM
I agree with LEELOO for the most part. (for once, omg)

I like some of it that's about "hoes" and "bustin caps" and etc... it really depends on how catchy it is.

I don't have much rap though, I have some Eminem on my computer, and downloaded a little DMX recently. That's about it.

Alice Wonderbra
11-16-2004, 02:59 AM
;P

CRUNCH BAR
11-16-2004, 03:18 AM
I like Korean rap, some American rap is okay. Most of the American rap is too repetitive for me.

Alice Wonderbra
11-16-2004, 03:20 AM
have you heard french rap? the funniest stuff in the world. right up there with the darkwing duck theme song in german.

CRUNCH BAR
11-16-2004, 03:35 AM
Darkwing Duck?? who's that?? But yeah, French rap is pretty funny, I heard some on a Korean compilation and it had a couple of French songs on it, oh man it was hilarious!!!

RaineLoire
11-16-2004, 03:43 AM
My french teacher played some for us, It was the highlight of my day

My french teacher played some for us. It was the highlight of my day

CRUNCH BAR
11-16-2004, 03:44 AM
The French accent+Rap, not a good mix, too funny/weird sounding

Alice Wonderbra
11-16-2004, 04:22 AM
Darkwing Duck?? who's that??

http://www.ginevra2000.it/Disney/Banda/d1851.gif

iconoclastic pastry
11-16-2004, 04:38 AM
I'm expressin with my full capabilities
And now I'm livin in correctional facilities
Cause some don't agree with how I do this
I get straight and meditate like a Buddhist
I'm droppin flava, my behaviour is hereditary
But my technique is very necessary
Blame it on Ice Cube; because he said it gets funky
when you got a subject and a predicate
Add it on a dope beat; and it'll make you think
Some suckers just tickle me pink - to my stomach
Cause they don't flow like this one
You know what? I won't hesitate to diss one
or two before I'm through, so don't try to sing this
Some drop science; while I'm droppin english
Even if Yella, makes it a-capella
I still express, yo, I don't smoke weed or sess
Cause it's known to give a brother brain damage
And brain damage on the mic don't manage - NUTHIN
but makin a sucka and you equal
Don't be another sequel..Express yourself!

Now, gettin back to the PG
That's program, and it's easy
Dre is back, new jacks are made hollow
Expressin ain't their subject because they like to follow
the words, the style, the trend; the records I spin
Again and again and again - yo, you're on the other end
Whatch a brother blend dope rhymes, with no help
There's no fessin or guessin while I'm expressin myself
It's crazy to see people be
what society wants them to be, but not me
RUTHLESS, is the way to go, they know
Others say rhymes which fail to be original
or they kill where the hip-hop starts
Forget about the ghetto, and rap for the pop charts
Some musicians cuss at home
But scared to use profanity when upon the microphone
Yeah, they want reality, but you will hear none
They'd rather exaggerate a little fiction
Some say no to drugs, and take a stand
But after the show, they go lookin for the "Dopeman"
Or they ban my group from the radio
Hear N.W.A. and say, "Hell no!"
But you know it ain't all about wealth
As long as you make a note to..Express yourself!

Express yourself!.. from the heart
cause if you wanna start to move up the chart
then expression is a big part of it
You ain't efficient when you flow, you ain't swift
Movin like a tortoise, full of rigor mortis
There's a little bit more to show
I got rhymes in my mind, embedded like an embryo
or a lesson - all of 'em expression
And if you start fessin, I got a Smith and Wessun for ya
I might ignore your record because it has no bottom
I get loose in the summer winter spring and autumn
It's Dre on the mic, gettin physical
Doin' the job, N.W.A is the lynch mob!
Yes I'ma climb, but you know you need this
And the knowledge is growin just like a fetus
or a tumor, but here is the rumor
Dre is in the neighborhood and he's up to no good
When I start expressin myself, Yella, slam it
Cause if I stay funky like this I'm doin damage
Or I'ma be too hyped, and need a straight jacket
I got knowledge, and other suckers lack it
So, when you see Dre, a DJ on the mic
Ask what it's like - it's like we're gettin hyped tonight
Cause if I strike, it ain't for your good health
But I won't strike if you just..Express yourself!

Express yourself!
Go on and do it..
Express yourself!
Express yourself!
Go on and do it..
Express yourself!
Go on and do it..
Go on and do it..

CRUNCH BAR
11-16-2004, 05:21 AM
that must be an American cartoon, I don't like ones many of those.
Jinusean-Jinusean bomb.

TCK
11-16-2004, 06:40 AM
have you heard french rap? the funniest stuff in the world. right up there with the darkwing duck theme song in german.I disagree. I watched "Later with Jools Holland" last Friday (I never normally watch it, but whatever), and one of the acts showcased was an artist known as MC Solaar. French. Rap. Pretty damn good stuff, surprising as it is.

If you're bored, and want to risk the RIAA or whatever, download "La Vie Est Belle" or "Guerilla" by the aformentioned artist.

Dr. Lucien Sanchez
11-16-2004, 11:08 AM
Some rap is fucking awesome just listen to some De La Soul or Public Enemy both groups being a huge influence on Rage Against The Machine.

Red XIII_Luver
11-16-2004, 05:00 PM
Rock is so much better :P especially slipknot :D

Butch
11-16-2004, 05:53 PM
Looool. Even though I want to flame alot of people in this thread, it's all about opinion. Rofl. I just like Tupac and other select few rap artists that I like.

TK
11-16-2004, 06:11 PM
We've already been through the whole "RAP IS TEH POOPIEST MUSIC" thing at least once. Basically, what it boils down to is that some people have decided that all rap sucks because they heard a few really bad rap songs on the radio, and most people are intelligent enough to realize that even if they don't personally enjoy rap, it is still as much a valid artistic outlet as any other type of music.

Slvg_dvb
11-16-2004, 06:18 PM
Rap sucks! Free handgun with every album!

Sarah
11-16-2004, 06:19 PM
how anyone can still hate rap after acpo's series of posts in the fiction forum is beyond me.

oh. and the streets aren't bad either. :-*

pedo mc tax me softly, black person (whom i love)
11-16-2004, 06:27 PM
Because we also hate juan?

And also because it's in writing, and not an actual audio file?

KREAYSHAWN
11-16-2004, 07:06 PM
Wow. What a cut-out-and-keep thread. Rap is a very large genre, with some very entertaining acts. You are mostly an idiot. Why did you even bother posting this? It's not like we care what you think or haven't seen a topic like this a million times already. And your prejudice and utter idiocy is really, really irritating.

=/

CRUNCH BAR
11-16-2004, 10:04 PM
yeah, rap is awesome!!! it's catchy too...

fascist socialist
11-16-2004, 10:18 PM
and most people are intelligent enough to realize that even if they don't personally enjoy rap, it is still as much a valid artistic outlet as any other type of music.

That quote ends this thread imo.

also odin, is that a challenge? should i invest in a microphone and perform my ff7 rap?

Hidatoshi
11-16-2004, 10:25 PM
I can't stand how when an artist outside the rap genre sings about money, women, etc. it's perfectly fine, no matter how demoralizing, womanizing, or just plain idiotic is. But when a rapper does it, it becomes something to ridicule. I especially hate it when people attempt to compare next to meaningless, incoherent rock lyrics to mainstream rap and then say rap is pointless.

That said, I prefer most other genres over rap, but I like rap as well.

Top Cat
11-16-2004, 10:52 PM
how anyone can still hate rap after acpo's series of posts in the fiction forum is beyond me.

oh. and the streets aren't bad either. :-*

The Streets are the greatest rap group ever, though!


Also, some rap is crap, like the SHIT NIGGAZ I HAVE HOES BITCH stuff, but some of it is actually good music, like people have been saying.

It's pretty silly to generalise all rap into one group and declare you hate it, unless you really have ehard every type of rap there is and do not like it.

RaineLoire
11-16-2004, 11:17 PM
You guys make good point and dont call me an idiot charlemanage, personally, the koolKrew is really bugging me. I shoukld have put this into better words,

I dislike rap.

I really would prefer not to listen to rap

Rap irratates me

I dont listen to rap

Rap is not my kind of music

I dont listen to rap

I love you you love me we're a happy family witha great big hugh and a kiss from me to you, wont ytou say you love me too.

I dont listen to rap

I dislike HATEYABITCH rap

Listen, do I need to make you guys an essay? I do realize that there is other rap with other words, I just dont like rap altogether, I missworded complately, Im sorry

pedo mc tax me softly, black person (whom i love)
11-16-2004, 11:51 PM
That quote ends this thread imo.

also odin, is that a challenge? should i invest in a microphone and perform my ff7 rap?

If you do not, you should just leave the Shrine in shame.

IN SHAME!

RaineLoire
11-17-2004, 12:23 AM
in shame....

Alice Wonderbra
11-17-2004, 12:58 AM
In shame.

Vincent Paine
11-17-2004, 01:12 AM
Did he do it yet?

Oh, and i don't much like rap. Except for funny, and for party dancing, and then i like techno better.

tidus~lulu
11-17-2004, 01:14 AM
ive heard about the retards attempt poetry...but have you heard this??

Can't spell c(rap) without rap.

grn apple tree
11-17-2004, 01:16 AM
i think christian rap is ok well the one i heard was great...

tidus~lulu
11-17-2004, 01:17 AM
yeah i christian rap is ok well the one i heard was great...[/QUOTE]

never heard of it

RaineLoire
11-17-2004, 01:18 AM
Thats really cool, you should PM me brother!
And Vincent PAine! Ive tried to PM you!

LED ZEPPELIN SHALL ROCK ON FOREVER!
GO JIMMY PAIGE!

BTW, nice siggy, the song WILL remain the same!

CRUNCH BAR
11-17-2004, 01:49 AM
Korean rap is GREAT, OH YEAH!!!!

Hogan
11-17-2004, 03:22 AM
Hogan <3 The Streets and Hogan thinks mc Chris is one nifty rapper.

Alice Wonderbra
11-17-2004, 03:26 AM
Hogan likes to refer to Hogan in the third person.

Darth Pepper
11-17-2004, 03:27 AM
Didn't ODB die the other day?

Alice Wonderbra
11-17-2004, 03:28 AM
Yes. It won't be determined how for 10 days or something like that.

Hogan
11-17-2004, 03:38 AM
Hogan likes to refer to Hogan in the third person.
Hogan does indeed.

Alice Wonderbra
11-17-2004, 03:43 AM
Indeed, my snazzy fellow, indeed!

Top Cat
11-17-2004, 10:37 PM
Hogan has snazzy musical tastes.

Snazzy.

Draven
11-17-2004, 11:53 PM
Look at you're watch now, your still a super hot female

Stutterfly
11-21-2004, 10:42 PM
oh dear god.

whenever i hear rap, i think of the target of a mid-life crisis: my mom. she listens to shit like shaggy and beyonc�...kill them all, i say.

and throw keishia chante and ciara into a pile of mud.

The Ricky
11-22-2004, 12:45 AM
What do you think about that useless ridiculous cr-..I mean music. Its depressing and all they sing about is women,sex,money, and occasionally shoes and white t-shirts! I hate rap!!!!


Join the club...

Zulu
11-22-2004, 01:13 AM
Edna: The only kind of rap we like is Proto rap :eye:

Zulu: That's SO N...okay its true.

40k Tarnag Dark Assasin
11-22-2004, 01:35 AM
ALL RAP SUCKS LONG LIVE DISTURBED


"Another nightmare about to come true
Will manifest tomorrow
Another love that I've taken from you
Lost in time, on the edge of suffering
Another taste of the evil I breed
Will level you completely
Bring to life everything that you fear
Live in the dark, and the world is threatening"by Disturbed SONG: Prayer
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Alice Wonderbra
11-22-2004, 02:35 AM
;_;

i like linkin park

Kemtach2999
11-23-2004, 11:51 AM
I haven't heard much from the streets, but that 'Dry your eyes mate' made me suicidal. On the whole though there are a few rappers who have decent songs, its just not my favourite genre

Spermking69
11-23-2004, 09:41 PM
rap is the best music on the face of the earth... if u listen to the lyrics, some of that stuff is VERY good,the beats, the wordplay, everything, it's just like poetry, with similes and metaphors n stuff all to a real hot beat, and believe it or not, it is alot harder than u think to make a good rap, especially freestyle, when you have to rap off the top of your head... it's one of the most difficult things to do, and for someone to be able to spit 8 bars off the top of they head and make sense, it takes real talent.

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
11-23-2004, 09:57 PM
for someone to be able to spit 8 bars off the top of they head and make sense, it takes real talent.
Most rappers have problems with coherence. It's really not hard to manufacture a verse when you always rap about the same thing, either.

Stutterfly
11-23-2004, 11:50 PM
rap is the best music on the face of the earth... if u listen to the lyrics, some of that stuff is VERY good,the beats, the wordplay, everything, it's just like poetry, with similes and metaphors n stuff all to a real hot beat, and believe it or not, it is alot harder than u think to make a good rap, especially freestyle, when you have to rap off the top of your head... it's one of the most difficult things to do, and for someone to be able to spit 8 bars off the top of they head and make sense, it takes real talent.

oh, yes, of course. of course they make beautiful lyrics. they make beautiful song titles too: what's lloyd bank's song called? "i'm so fly"? it's kinda fucking sad when a rapper sings about how he's so cool. way to go, ego-brain.




;_;

i like linkin park

same here. >_o

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
11-24-2004, 12:29 AM
screaming "I'm about to break!" is better?

RaineLoire
11-24-2004, 12:35 AM
yeah, Id rather say that then "Bitch,get me a sadnwhich!"

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
11-24-2004, 12:51 AM
Could you please point me to the song that says that?

Alice Wonderbra
11-24-2004, 02:15 AM
linkin park has some really good lyrics. you cant expect every word that comes out of someones mouth to be wonderful, ashin.

BizarroSephiroth
11-24-2004, 03:08 AM
I like rap and rock. I like them both, so I really don't care.

Ex-SeeD
11-24-2004, 03:34 AM
Well I respect Linkin Park as a band, and they got's some pretty good songs on thier albums (Hell I don't mind the rapper they got in the group). Although their a little overboard with the angst. But thier way more talented than say "50 Cent" or "Lil Jon" and all those other a-holes

Spermking69
11-24-2004, 07:33 AM
oh, yes, of course. of course they make beautiful lyrics. they make beautiful song titles too: what's lloyd bank's song called? "i'm so fly"? it's kinda fucking sad when a rapper sings about how he's so cool. way to go, ego-brain.

and i think it's kinda fuckin sad whenever a rock band whines about how fucked up they are, it's better to be cocky than to be suicidal.

Yukito
11-24-2004, 07:36 AM
yeah rap is annoying but outkast is good

CRUNCH BAR
11-24-2004, 08:00 AM
It's all about Dr. Octagon, he's one of the best American rappers of today... I hate Linkin Park, he sucks dick, and he can't play the guitar work shit in a cunt...

Alice Wonderbra
11-24-2004, 08:54 AM
well, all i have to say and all i really wanna say on the lp topic is that in my experiences of being a fan, you guys have a different perception of their music.

Lukkukat
11-24-2004, 02:21 PM
I like the Numb/Encore thing that Jay Z and Linkin Park have got going on at the moment, and I think a little rap is ok, but too much is a really bad thing. However, even bands like Keane are influenced by rap music. On their next album, Tim has taken inspiration for one of his songs from Eminem's Lose Yourself, so I think rap is a mixture of good and bad really.

Stutterfly
11-24-2004, 03:11 PM
and i think it's kinda fuckin sad whenever a rock band whines about how fucked up they are, it's better to be cocky than to be suicidal.

oh yeah, of course. i'm sorry, i forgot all band members want to KILL THEMSELVES. it hadn't crossed my mind. =D

so please, spermking, enlighten me. what do rappers sing about?

do you SEE their videos? it's all half-naked girls and cars and half-naked girls and gangs and shooting people. lovely. i think it's fucking disgusting. every male rapper's video has girls in it. EVERY ONE.

mmhm, they must have great lyrics too. to go with their shitacular music videos. can't they be more original?

Ex-SeeD
11-24-2004, 10:03 PM
Stutterfly I agree with your post on most points. However even some rock videos had half-naked girls ( Motely Crue"s "Girls"Girls" Girls' for example) it's not bad to have hot girls in the videos, But hell even that video is tame compared to the shit in these rap videos.

It's more about how these rap videos always show either the rapper in a fancy masion,yacht,plane,etc. or in a project/bad nieghborhood. what gets in if there in a bad neighborhood is that sometimes they always say " I'm represtin my hood" but they don't give any money to fix or revenate these neighborhoods. that makes me fucking sick. But anyway I do like some underground rap, just not the whole "genre" itself.

CRUNCH BAR
11-24-2004, 10:28 PM
oh yeah, of course. i'm sorry, i forgot all band members want to KILL THEMSELVES. it hadn't crossed my mind. =D

so please, spermking, enlighten me. what do rappers sing about?

do you SEE their videos? it's all half-naked girls and cars and half-naked girls and gangs and shooting people. lovely. i think it's fucking disgusting. every male rapper's video has girls in it. EVERY ONE.

mmhm, they must have great lyrics too. to go with their shitacular music videos. can't they be more original?
at least it's positive...unlike alot of bad rock...

Stutterfly
11-25-2004, 03:26 PM
at least it's positive...unlike alot of bad rock...

[laughs] positive!? i'll show you positive, love.


"24, 34, 46 (6) good and thick, and once you get it she'll work wit it
(work wit it)
Pretty face and some cute lips, (cute lips) earing in her tounge and she know what she do wit it. (do wit it)
Make a name for herself, and she do her shit well, and know how to keep her business to herself. (she keep her business to her self)
Come over any time a nigga call, shit 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock, (ding dong) and she right there. (right there)
And she know why she came here (she know why she came here) and she know where her clothes suppose to be(off and over there)
Sniff a lil coke,(coke) take a lil x,(x) smoke a lil weed,(weed) drink a lil bit
I need a girl I can freak with,(freak wit)
and wanna try shit (try shit) and ain't scared of a big dick (of a big dick)
And love to get her pussy licked,
by another bitch, cuz I ain't drunk enough ta do dat."

it's not positive, chorns, it's just plain...nasty.

who calls a woman a bitch? a whore? a slut? men have no respect at all for women. not in the least. all they think about is sex...[shakes head]

KREAYSHAWN
11-25-2004, 03:50 PM
KISS - Makin' Love
I just hate when the girl says wait
I really want her by my side
Don't hesitate
I really want her by my side
The whole night through
We do all the things that we wanna do
Well, come on baby, don't leave me sad
'Cause you're good lookin', the best I've had
Makin' love (makin' love), makin' love (makin' love)
Makin' love (makin' love) all night long
Makin' love (makin' love), makin' love (makin' love)
Makin' love (makin' love) all night long
Ow, all night long

Red light, green light, don't say "No"
I really want her, she says
"Stop, baby" go, go, go
I really want her by my side
The whole night through
We do all the things that we wanna do
Well, come on baby, don't leave me sad
'Cause you're good lookin', the best I've had

Makin' love (makin' love), makin' love (makin' love)
Makin' love (makin' love) all night long
Makin' love (makin' love), makin' love (makin' love)
Makin' love (makin' love) all night

Whoo
Makin' love (makin' love), makin' love (makin' love)
Makin' love (makin' love) all night long
Makin' love (makin' love), makin' love (makin' love)
Makin' love (makin' love) all night long

Makin' love (makin' love), makin' love (makin' love)
Makin' love (makin' love) all night long
Makin' love (makin' love), makin' love (makin' love)
Makin' love (makin' love) all night, oh



and worse:


WASP - Fuck Like a Beast

I got pictures of naked ladies
Lying on their beds
I whiff that smell and sweet convulsion
Starts a-Swelling inside my head
I'm making artificial lovers for free
I start to howl I'm in heat
I moan and growl and the hunt drives me crazy
I f*** like a Beast

I come round, round i come feel your love
Tie you down, down i come steal your love
I come round, round i come feel your love
Tie you down, down i come steal your love

I'm on the prowl and i watch you closely
I lie waiting for you
I'm the wolf with the sheepsskins clothing
I lick my chops and your tasting good
I do whatever i want to, to ya
I'll nail your ass to the sheets
A pelvic thrust and the sweat starts to sting ya
I f*** like a beast

I come round, round i come feel your love
Tie you down, down i come steal your love
I come round, round i come feel your love
Tie you down, down i come steal your love

Come ride, savage seduction
Ride, ride, ride


On the other side of things:


Nelly - My Place
[Nelly]
I used to pride myself on being the other man
But now it's flipped and I don't want you with no other man
Why can't you understand anything I'm offering
I gave you the world, but you just wanted arguing
From the time I picked you up, until the time I dropped you off again
Even if flipped out on at the mall again
"It's all his fault again" that's what you tellin all ya friends
I ain't pointing fingers ma, i just wanna call again
See how ya day going I know they stressin on ya
I know them times get hard that's why I'm checkin on ya
It's yours truly ma, I got little message for ya
Anything he can do, girl I can do better for ya
Cause

Hook: [Nelly]
When we laugh or we cry it's together
Through the rain and the stormiest weather
We gon still be as one it's forever, it's forever

Chorus: [Jaheim]
Won't you come on and go with me (oh girl)
Come on over to my place
Won't you sit ya self down and take a seat
and let me ease ya mind girl
We gon do it our way (our way)

[Nelly]
I heard your friend tell a friend that told a friend of mine
That you was thinking that we should do it one more time
If this ain't the truth then hopefully it's not a lie
Cause I ain't got no issue with hitting that another time
We never had a problem with gettin it done
Disagreed upon a lot ma, but sex wouldn't one
Now check it I know you get excited when I come around and bite it
Quit frownin up and quit actin like you don't like it

I like it (I know you like), I like it (You really like it), I really, really like it,
I want it (You really want it), adore it (adore it), so come with me enjoy it

Hook: [Nelly]
When we laugh or we cry it's together
Through the rain and the stormiest weather
We gon still be as one it's forever, it's forever

Chorus: [Jaheim]
Won't you come on and go with me (oh girl)
Come on over to my place
Won't you sit ya self down and take a seat
and let me ease ya mind girl
We gon do it our way (our way)

Bridge: [Nelly]
Shawty where you been
Feels like a long time, long long time since I seen ya
Yes it has girl, and I know I said some dumb things to you before
But girl you know I didn't mean it
I didn't mean one single word
I never meant one single word
If I could take back every word I would and more fa sho
If I thought that you believe it
Cause you make my life so convinient for me

Hook: [Nelly]
When we laugh or we cry it's together
Through the rain and the stormiest weather
We gon still be as one it's forever, it's forever

Chorus: [Jaheim]
Won't you come on and go with me (oh girl)
Come on over to my place
Won't you sit ya self down and take a seat
and let me ease ya mind girl
We gon do it our way (our way)


Public Enemy - Power to the People
And you thought the beat slowed down
Power to the people
Get on up, get into it, get involved
Feel the bass as the cut revolves
To the brothers wit the 808
Like I said before PE got a brand new funk
Turn it up, boom the trunk, yeah
Internationally known on the microphone
Makin' sure the brothers will never leave you alone
To my sisters
Sisters yes we missed ya
Let's get it together make a nation
You can bet on it, don't sleep on it
'Cause the troops cold jeepin' it pumpin
(Power to the people)
Turn us loose we shall overcome
They say where you get that bass from
Hey ohh people, people as we continue on
Come along, sings this song, are you ready for '91
Rhythm nation pump that bass an
We like to know from Chicago, New York and LA
Are y'all ready, cause the plans in the jam
And we're ready to roll yo y'all got to tell me
Are y'all read read to go c'mon
(Power to the people)
Had to kick it like that as we roll as one
One under the sun, to all the cities and the side
Stateside and the whole wide
There it is
P-e-a-c-e 1991

Point taken?

In case you missed it: one or two example of sexism in one genre and the touching lyrics of another proves absolutely nothing. Statements like "(all rap videos) are all half-naked girls and cars and half-naked girls and gangs and shooting people" are absolutely retarded. Not all rap is like that, and the content of many rock songs are just as bad. If you dislike a genre, fine, dislike it, but don't use one or two cases to prove what you perceive to be a "universal truth" and whitewash an entire genre, the exact same thing which happens to your beloved rock because of people like Metallica and Marilyn Manson. :rolleyes:

tidus~lulu
11-25-2004, 03:57 PM
Point taken?

In case you missed it: one or two example of sexism in one genre and the touching lyrics of another proves absolutely nothing. Statements like "(all rap videos) are all half-naked girls and cars and half-naked girls and gangs and shooting people" are absolutely retarded. Not all rap is like that, and the content of many rock songs are just as bad. If you dislike a genre, fine, dislike it, but don't use one or two cases to prove what you perceive to be a "universal truth" and whitewash an entire genre, the exact same thing which happens to your beloved rock because of people like Metallica and Marilyn Manson. :rolleyes:

That's very true. It might be about something peaceful but half the time the girls barely have clothes on and have fake boobs.

KREAYSHAWN
11-25-2004, 08:29 PM
Yes, I know I saw a rock video with a nipple in it once, and I am now well aware that 50% of rock videos are CRAMMED FULL OF FILTH.

CRUNCH BAR
11-25-2004, 11:14 PM
Yes, I know I saw a rock video with a nipple in it once, and I am now well aware that 50% of rock videos are CRAMMED FULL OF FILTH.
Yup. Yup.

The Ricky
11-26-2004, 12:20 AM
Both sides have obnoxios and sexist lyrics. Like the rock songs Charlemagne qouted. But listen to Eminem's "Kim" or "Kill You." "Kill You" is about raping and killing his mother, and "Kim" is a song where he pretends to kill, strangle, and slit his WIFE'S throat.

So rock music ain't the only genre with sexist lyrics.

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
11-26-2004, 05:28 AM
Eminem writes these things as a joke. If you don't like it, don't listen. That doesn't make the whole genre bad.

Rock fans tend to generalize more than any other type, I've noticed. Maybe you should actually try listening to some other than the singles on MTV. You might find you like some of it. OMG NO NOT DIVERSITY ANYTHING BUT THAT.

KREAYSHAWN
11-26-2004, 11:31 AM
Yes, I always figured Eminem was basically being ironic.

And my entire point was that both genres contain such lyrics.

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
11-26-2004, 08:00 PM
I realize that. =)

Spermking69
11-26-2004, 08:58 PM
if both genres contain good AND bad lyrics, why hate only rap and not rock? and it could go the other way, too, why hate rock, but not rap? I know that i be listinin to rap songs with bad messages in them
( "24, 34, 46 good and thick and once u get it, she'll work wit it
pretty face and some cute lips
earring in her toungue and she know what she doin wit it...)
and i love that song, and surely some of u be listenin to rock that got bad mesages in them, yet u still like rock, so I realize that really, we can't argue that a certain genre is bad because of the content of the lyrics, that would be hypocritical.

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
11-26-2004, 09:09 PM
I like both sides. I'm just trying to stir up discussion imo.

Stutterfly
11-26-2004, 09:56 PM
huh, i noticed people are getting a bit stirred up about my opinion. i don't like rap, it's lame. some people don't like rock, and they think it's lame too. that's fine with me. you shouldn't care about what i say, because i'm not gonna change my opinion.

i personally think that singers/bands shouldn't write such terrible lyrics....in enimem's case, writing lyrics like that of "kim" and "kill me" is horrible. just plain fucking horrible. why would you write lyrics like that? joke or not? [shakes head]

BizarroSephiroth
11-27-2004, 03:23 AM
Well I respect Linkin Park as a band, and they got's some pretty good songs on thier albums (Hell I don't mind the rapper they got in the group). Although their a little overboard with the angst. But thier way more talented than say "50 Cent" or "Lil Jon" and all those other a-holes

I have 2 Linkin Park CD's and a Limp Bizkit CD. I have the Eminem Show, too.

KREAYSHAWN
11-30-2004, 09:37 PM
I realize that. =)

I realised that you realised that.

So there.

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
12-02-2004, 02:21 AM
huh, i noticed people are getting a bit stirred up about my opinion. i don't like rap, it's lame. some people don't like rock, and they think it's lame too. that's fine with me. you shouldn't care about what i say, because i'm not gonna change my opinion.

i personally think that singers/bands shouldn't write such terrible lyrics....in enimem's case, writing lyrics like that of "kim" and "kill me" is horrible. just plain fucking horrible. why would you write lyrics like that? joke or not? [shakes head]
Why write whiney songs about how horrible your sheltered suburban life was?

Fighter Jeff
12-02-2004, 05:39 AM
*sigh* How did I guess that I was going to a forum with a bunch of geeks that probably listen to Linkin Park or some lame crap like that.

You need to open up your minds to other things, hip-hop and rap are awesome.

Alice Wonderbra
12-02-2004, 06:42 PM
You're silly.

KREAYSHAWN
12-02-2004, 08:23 PM
You're all silly.

=/

rezo
12-02-2004, 08:36 PM
*sigh* How did I guess that I was going to a forum with a bunch of geeks.

I like 8-bit theatre too! My favorite part is when that one thing says "Stab" to that other thing!

Alice Wonderbra
12-03-2004, 12:44 AM
i used to go there like 3 years ago. it was amusing at first, but soon got repetitively stale.

pedo mc tax me softly, black person (whom i love)
12-03-2004, 02:10 AM
i used to go there like 3 years ago. it was amusing at first, but soon got repetitively stale.

Much like the majority of rap songs (note: not all, the majority. And yes, that is an accurate description)!

Alice Wonderbra
12-03-2004, 02:16 AM
way to get back to the topic ;P

i would agree, actually.

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
12-03-2004, 02:35 AM
Much like the majority of most genres (note: not all, the majority. And yes, that is an accurate description)!

Final_Fantasy_Freak88
12-03-2004, 12:26 PM
I like some rap it all depends on who is doing the rapping and if there good!

Stutterfly
12-05-2004, 04:57 PM
I like some rap it all depends on who is doing the rapping and if there good!

yeah, that's the same as me...i mean, ludacris is okay sometimes....and eminem is terrible. his songs are all the same, with the same stupid videos. XD

and i just KNOW someone is going to say "well, all rock songs are the same with the same stupid videos". it'll most likely be ashin.

Alice Wonderbra
12-05-2004, 06:46 PM
So you like music that you think is good? Wow, surprise me why don't you guys!

grn apple tree
12-05-2004, 06:52 PM
There are rap songs i do like that are stupid and stuff but i only like em for the melody not the lyrics.

CRUNCH BAR
12-08-2004, 05:15 AM
Yeah, same here, most music I listen to is for the beat and melody rather than the lyrics. ODB is a different story, I like his lyrics, they're funny as fuck.

Rapture
12-23-2004, 06:49 PM
OK, if they bleeped out every swearword in a rap song, let's just say that it wouldn't be very nice to your head.

"bleep...mother...bleep....killing.....bleep.....li ttle kids....bleep.....knives and guns...screw up my......bleep...life" ... ... ... ... ...and so on.

KREAYSHAWN
12-23-2004, 07:58 PM
YOU ARE ONE FUNNY DUDE, WHY DON'T YOU DO STAND UP?

Not only did you make the valid and completely original point, "rapper curse sometimes" you did it in a genuinely amusing - nay, hilarious way! I'm impressed!

Rapture
12-23-2004, 08:51 PM
YOU ARE ONE FUNNY DUDE, WHY DON'T YOU DO STAND UP?

Not only did you make the valid and completely original point, "rapper curse sometimes" you did it in a genuinely amusing - nay, hilarious way! I'm impressed!

???
I wonder...?

Don't be sarcastic. :(

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
12-24-2004, 02:27 AM
and i just KNOW someone is going to say "well, all rock songs are the same with the same stupid videos". it'll most likely be ashin.
So there is suddenly a problem with stating the obvious truth? Oh no, anything but the truth. BETTER PUT A SPIN ON IT TO MAKE MY PREFERRED GENRE LOOK GOOD.

Demon Dante
12-27-2004, 02:13 AM
Im with you there i hate rap to i dont think it has any meaning at all to it all its about is sex,drugs,women,gangs,guns/shooting thats all from what i can see is about i just dont see the point so i wounder why so many people like it so much i personaly like rock/metal/goth music alot more it has meaning to it now im not saying all the songs in the catergoy have meaning to it but 95% of it the songs do.


DEATH TO RAP.

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
12-27-2004, 11:21 AM
Im with you there i hate rap to i dont think it has any meaning at all to it all its about is sex,drugs,women,gangs,guns/shooting thats all from what i can see is about i just dont see the point so i wounder why so many people like it so much i personaly like rock/metal/goth music alot more it has meaning to it now im not saying all the songs in the catergoy have meaning to it but 95% of it the songs do.


DEATH TO RAP.
So... "sex, drugs, women, gangs, guns/shooting"... that's not meaning? Doesn't the saying go "sex, drugs, and rock and roll"?

Darkiss
12-27-2004, 06:46 PM
Well,I think that rock is the best genre of music.But I must admit that I was a rapper when I was fifteen.Rap music is for teens that want to look like..."Hey,dude....I'm the best..."But now I've grown and I chose rock as the top kind of music.Not all of it though...There are shitty bands and even worse albums...But rap is crap at 90% and rock at 20%.Eminen is just an idiot...His new song "Lose it" and that ''hahahah'' thing that follows is just giving me the creeps...

fascist socialist
12-27-2004, 06:55 PM
god if the general opinion is "RAP SUCKX COZ ITS ONLY FOR NIGS THAT WANT TO LOOK COOL"... i wonder what the general opinion about trance/techno is.

"HAHAA LISTEN TO MUSIC WITH REAL INSTRUEMENTS PLZ"
"GO TAKE SOME MORE XTC PLZ"
"HAHAHA WEAR YOUR BAGGY PANTS WITH GLOWSTICKS IN THE POCKETS PLZ"
"ONLY GAY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LOOK COOOL LISTEN TO TRANCE PLZ"

hey guys, stereotypin isn't good. People listen to music for enjoyment. ok

omnislash
12-27-2004, 07:17 PM
god if the general opinion is "RAP SUCKX COZ ITS ONLY FOR NIGS THAT WANT TO LOOK COOL"... i wonder what the general opinion about trance/techno is.

"HAHAA LISTEN TO MUSIC WITH REAL INSTRUEMENTS PLZ"
"GO TAKE SOME MORE XTC PLZ"
"HAHAHA WEAR YOUR BAGGY PANTS WITH GLOWSTICKS IN THE POCKETS PLZ"
"ONLY GAY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LOOK COOOL LISTEN TO TRANCE PLZ"

hey guys, stereotypin isn't good. People listen to music for enjoyment. ok


well when 90% of rap lives up the stereo type that makes it look like shit,what do u expect

Hogan
12-27-2004, 09:11 PM
well when 90% of rap lives up the stereo type that makes it look like shit,what do u expect
Maybe the rap you listen to.

Shinra Turk
12-27-2004, 09:22 PM
Rap is Queer. Thats all I feel like saying on the subject...

Pat
12-27-2004, 09:44 PM
Rap is Queer. Thats all I feel like saying on the subject...
fantastic.

now stfu and gtfo ok.

omnislash
12-27-2004, 11:31 PM
Maybe the rap you listen to.

nope, its all of it. maybe 10 years ago it was as high as 90%. but now adays that 90% is a generous number

Hogan
12-28-2004, 01:58 AM
You don't listen to enough mc chris. :cool:

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
12-28-2004, 02:43 AM
maybe if anyone had a reason other than "omg stereotype", you might sound a little more intelligent (especially when your preferred genre falls into most of them as well).

better take the glowstix out of my pockets =(

Little Brother
01-07-2005, 06:15 PM
I dont really listen to rap, i listen to soul/hip hop....but that is also a genre which was formed of of rap.....so when everyone sayd that they hate rap i must reply

i agree that some rap sux ex. Eminem, G-unit, Jay-Z, Kanye West, Twista, etc..... that too me is not good music....( money, hoes , no real point)

but the music i listen which is formed off of rap ( soul / hip hop) says something and always has a story that is being told... i just thought i should let u ppl kno that rap and hiphop are 2 different things....

Amaroth
01-08-2005, 05:41 AM
"You can't spell crap without rap!!!"

Blood Angel
01-08-2005, 06:02 AM
Rap is definately not my thing... It was tolerable at first on my radio station but then it took over...... you can't hear one good song without a rap one after it...

Crimson X
01-08-2005, 06:15 AM
Rap is definately not cool

Chopper
01-08-2005, 06:59 AM
yup rap sux

Crimson X
01-08-2005, 07:02 AM
rock sux to...........................

Squall_Bahamut
01-08-2005, 07:09 AM
RAP blows!

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
01-08-2005, 07:21 AM
"You can't spell crap without rap!!!"but luckily for you, repeating an overused quote doesn't require a brain.

Little Brother
01-08-2005, 04:30 PM
LOL^

KREAYSHAWN
01-08-2005, 04:31 PM
"You can't spell crap without rap!!!"

you can't spell queer without your mother.

and 90% of rap isn't like that, plain and simple. even modern stuff.

the epitome of retardation must be to see a few acts in a similar vein and on MTV and assume every single rap artist is like that.

also acpo LAY OFF THE DISCO BISCUITS OK YOU DANCE FAG

fascist socialist
01-08-2005, 05:01 PM
disco biscuits wit a side of mushies to go.

GR8.

this is quickly becoming my favorite non-religious ignorant thread 8-)

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
01-08-2005, 06:20 PM
this is quickly becoming my favorite non-religious ignorant thread 8-)




i got some glowstix, want some?

Alice Wonderbra
01-08-2005, 06:26 PM
oooo rave!

KREAYSHAWN
01-08-2005, 06:27 PM
no gear? ;(

CRUNCH BAR
01-08-2005, 06:28 PM
Glowstix? I wanna have one!

Alice Wonderbra
01-08-2005, 06:43 PM
i have a horde of plenty when it comes to raving materials. but ive never been to a rave =(

fascist socialist
01-09-2005, 05:38 AM
i'll bring the gear and the music.

Unlimited_Lionheart
01-10-2005, 04:30 AM
There is good rap and bad rap in my opinion. Some rappers suck. But there are really good rappers that seem almost unbelievable. And some rap song have deep lyrics. Its like poetry. Rap isnt the only thing i listen to tho. It gets repetitive sometimes.

Spermking69
01-10-2005, 06:08 AM
all yall rap haters, yall wouldnt kno good music if it was blastin loud bein broadcasted from the VMA's

Pat
01-10-2005, 06:16 AM
all yall rap haters, yall wouldnt kno good music if it was blastin loud bein broadcasted from the VMA's
thank you for enlightening me

omnislash
01-10-2005, 07:38 AM
all yall rap haters, yall wouldnt kno good music if it was blastin loud bein broadcasted from the VMA's

yea....i bet

Crimson X
01-10-2005, 07:47 AM
all yall rap haters, yall wouldnt kno good music if it was blastin loud bein broadcasted from the VMA's
true, go on,

Kit
01-12-2005, 10:14 PM
Rap can be good dependin on the rapper but i do hav a prime hate - dunno if u wud call it rap exactly- u no "the streets" its like they kinda rap but mix it with tone deaf singing

Squall_Bahamut
01-12-2005, 10:56 PM
Rap Blows

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
01-12-2005, 11:29 PM
i'll bring the gear and the music.
so whos bringin da refreshments

i volunteer to bring paper plates!

Hogan
01-12-2005, 11:38 PM
Rap can be good dependin on the rapper but i do hav a prime hate - dunno if u wud call it rap exactly- u no "the streets" its like they kinda rap but mix it with tone deaf singing
The Streets are the best rap group of all time-- ever.

BountyHeadEdward
01-12-2005, 11:49 PM
Rap Fucking Sucks
Fin

Spermking69
01-15-2005, 05:33 AM
everything BUT rap sucks

squall lionheart
01-22-2005, 10:50 AM
rap sucks and ive heard alot of it i plainly just dont like none of it its too repetetive and boring

Elex_Knight
01-22-2005, 10:56 AM
Well I don't dislike it. Much better than trance music if you ask me. How can people find a series of varying computer beeps appealing?

true story = a trance-loving friend of mine, knowing my dislike for her music, would always click her fingers and say "dig that catchy tune" whenever we received an error message on our computer (she was my computer lab partner).

ZeroHoodZ
01-22-2005, 05:46 PM
everything BUT rap sucks

exactly...

Nixxi
01-22-2005, 07:28 PM
i like very little rap but at my college they just play rap in the computer room it gets so annoying

anima88505
03-25-2005, 04:13 AM
I'm sorta down w/ rap, but some of these famous guys nowadays give it a bad name, i mean like 50 cent and his so call G-Unit crew. I listen to alot more oldschool rap and underground rap top three rappers in my eye are 1. Tupac 2. Eazy-E 3.Dr. Dre

TK
03-25-2005, 10:01 AM
Tupac and Dr. Dre are very oldschool and underground! Your statements are totally consistent!

Scarface920
03-26-2005, 08:14 PM
Eminem is my all time favorite because unlike 95% of the other rappers, he bases his lyrics on real life experiences

Artists like 50-Cent can suck my left nut

Dog_eat_Dog
03-29-2005, 03:12 AM
im getting real tired of eminem's lyrics about ALL his fucking problems. that mom-hater is so out

Alice Wonderbra
03-29-2005, 03:14 AM
I like EMIN3M and his problems. But I prefer pre-D12 EMIN3M's problems.

Bus Driver
03-29-2005, 04:05 AM
I am big fan of rap, no denying that. I'll listen to mainstream artists as well as local or underground rappers, whatever is good in my eyes. Rappers like 50 Cent, he does make some catchy singles, but I prefer songs where he really made a song about something serious rather than his usual stuff. Many hate him because of his mainstream stuff, if you get past that you'll find he does have some good stuff. ex. "Many Men" , "Ski Mask Way , "Hate It or Love It."

Rap isn't for everyone, but for all those that hate it merely because the overplayed radio songs, try these and if you still dislike rap then it really isn't for you.

Nas - The Message
Nas - The World Is Yours
Nas - Dance

Talib Kwali - Never Been In Love

Ghostface Killah - All That I Got Is You

Tupac - Keep Ya Head Up
Tupac - Thugz Mansion
Tupac - Dear Mama
Tupac - Shed So Many Tears

Vyce
03-29-2005, 05:17 AM
I hate rap....oh yeah and peace out....word _\/

...and yes,I am another brick in the wall...


It's all about Dr. Octagon, he's one of the best American rappers of today... I hate Linkin Park, he sucks dick, and he can't play the guitar work shit in a cunt...

Since when is LP a one man show?

CRUNCH BAR
03-30-2005, 05:10 AM
I hate rap....oh yeah and peace out....word _\/

...and yes,I am another brick in the wall...



Since when is LP a one man show?
Sorry, I meant the entire band, I was thinking about how bad Seo Taiji got when I was writing this post, they did a concert together in NY and I was thinking about how crappy it was.

Vyce
03-30-2005, 06:08 AM
I used to kinda like LP but as I got older it drove me deeper into alt.rock and I can't stand em anymore >.<

MossY
04-01-2005, 12:31 AM
IT IS undefinedSHITE

Brandy
04-02-2005, 07:36 AM
i like rap as well as other types of music, i'm very diverse when it comes to music. To me the song matters the most, not the rapper or singer, just the song and meaning to it. even if you don't like rap there's gotta be ATLEAST 1 song you like or connect with.

Mia
04-03-2005, 07:53 PM
I don't like rap... yes it's a part of the culture that i don't quite understand. i guess it doesn't suit my taste

sun and steel
04-04-2005, 12:54 AM
I don't love it but I don't hate it, well at least not all of it. Some of it makes me want to puke but then again all I hear is the pish that gets played on the radio. And I suppose anyone who isn't into rock and decides to judge it all on that one Nickleback song they heard on the radio.....

Gast
04-06-2005, 11:02 AM
I like original rap songs, which is a small number of songs. Take Eminem, I like a few of his songs, but songs that are hard core rap that you cant understand I think is crap. Same goes for Tupac. I love Changes but some of his songs I cant stand.

Maria
04-13-2005, 03:04 PM
most rap is just some guy talking about how "gansta" he is and how hard it was growing up in the "hood"....pls...

Finalz_Kid
04-19-2005, 05:13 AM
haha thats funny. And your right. But I on the other hand luv rap, it is my favourite type of music! It is so enjoyable. I love it. btw, Riona Angel, I'm Riona_Heartilly's friend, I heard some bout you.

Maria
04-21-2005, 08:22 PM
haha thats funny. And your right. But I on the other hand luv rap, it is my favourite type of music! It is so enjoyable. I love it. btw, Riona Angel, I'm Riona_Heartilly's friend, I heard some bout you.

oh hi lol

RinoaLeonhart
04-22-2005, 01:44 PM
I love RAP- Retards Attempting Poetry! Thats classic and genusis!
I really do hate rap with a passion, although I do like Cypress Hill!

Alpott
04-22-2005, 01:50 PM
Too right

Old Rap is where its at, now its just annoying, its mostly rap songs sponsered by Nike, and so on..

RinoaLeonhart
04-22-2005, 05:59 PM
Yeah I agree the old ones are the best! Does anyone remeber MC Hammer? God, I feel old! I liked Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince too.
Rap today has to be all about violence constantly, rap can also be fun and be enjoyed.

Seiferoth
04-24-2005, 01:43 AM
rap sucks and ive heard alot of it i plainly just dont like none of it its too repetetive and boring

you are totally WRONG. rap is da most diverse musik youll eva hear. the lyrics dat they sing about is all tru hotness.


i like very little rap but at my college they just play rap in the computer room it gets so annoying
dont let it get to u, man! enjoy it! embrace it! listen to the words, the beat, the emotion, youll never get tired of it!


Artists like 50-Cent can suck my left nut
yea, u would like that, wouldnt u?

most rap is just some guy talking about how "gansta" he is and how hard it was growing up in the "hood"....pls...
can you ctually listen to what they are talkin about before you come up in herre and talk all that BS?

bottome line: RAP IS THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!!! anybody who disagrees can suck my left nut.

but... wait... you all owuld like that, wouldn't you?

fascist socialist
04-24-2005, 01:56 AM
hahahaha

Doc Holidae
04-24-2005, 02:12 AM
you say that rap is crap? maybe it is. or maybe, you're just jealous that they can do somthin you can't. rappers rapping about bitches, cars, and money is about as common as a pop sionger singing about the girl/boy next door who they can't get until the end of the video. not only are rap lyrics thoughtful and often times funny, but the metaphors, similies, etc that are found in rap are second to none. me and my boy Seiferoth understand rap and how hard it is. you call it crap? why is this? what's ur favorite type of music? i'll bet you my left nut(which i'm sure you'll sleep with it in ur mouth) that it's punk rock, country, or death metal.

fascist socialist
04-24-2005, 02:15 AM
I don't listen to either of those. Sorry.

Pay up now bitch.

Seiferoth
04-24-2005, 02:16 AM
I don't listen to either of those. Sorry.
well, if u aint got an opinion, then stop wastin space and get the hell outta this thread. wtf wuz ya last post? "hahahahaha" ? can you say SPAM???
anyway...
yea, man, that punk rock BS is way crappier than rap.

seriously, who the hell sings about how fucked up they are, how they wanna die, an how they hate themselves?? those dumbass punk rock singers who aint got no kinda lyrical talent whasoever. anybody can get an electric giutar and just play some random shiite at random, but how many of u can spit 8 bars off the top of ya heads?

NONE OF YALL. (except maybe Doc. and me of course. )

Doc Holidae
04-24-2005, 02:16 AM
my bad, i forgot to add Alt Rock to my list.

how can people like punk rock bands(Green Day, Good Charlotte, etc.)? i hear peope say "dude!!! they're soooo hardcore!!!" and all i ever see is a bunch of whiney pussies "singin" about how they hate life while wearing eyeliner, mascara, and ties. yea man, that's hardcore. 9/10 times they'd gte their asses kicked in a fight. and that 1 time is if the other person just got done having a stroke and can't use their right arm. rappers who talk abput their fucked up lives are talkin aboyut how they got their asses-kicked on a daily basis, dead-beat dads, and friends who diee from street violence. punk-rockers are those kids that barely got laid in school and hate life because of it. "i hate my life i wanna die." then slit ur wrists at it over with you dumb fuck!

fascist socialist
04-24-2005, 02:17 AM
Still wrong.

Seiferoth
04-24-2005, 02:22 AM
Still wrong.

why is that? you cant even defend ya ideas. i still have yet to hear from you why you believe what u believe. if u aint got nothin ocnstrutive to say that is actually more then i line, then STFU.

anybody who hates on rap, if they actually LISTEN to the lyrics, youre garanteed to be like "WHA??? did he just say that? *rewind*"
because rap will do that to a body.

Doc Holidae
04-24-2005, 02:31 AM
seriously. i thought you weren't supposed to spam forums.

rap has taken a turn for the rose in the past few years, i'll admit that. we've seen crap like Chingy, Lil Flip, Kanye West, and Benzino. but, for every crap rapper that emerges, a great one follows. The Game, Lloyd Banks, Twista, etc. you want great rap, rewind it back to the days of Tupac, Dre, Bone Thugs, and Eazy-E. if you can't backup you're beliefs on why rap is no good, then please go fuck yourself with a jagged rock.

fascist socialist
04-24-2005, 02:31 AM
If you read the thread, I've probably been one of the biggest supporters of rap. Seeing as I listen to a widely criticized genre of electronic dance music, I know where the "rap supporters" are coming from. I think hatred of anyone because of their taste in music is silly. Also, most of the arguements that people give against rap are silly and unfounded. I don't listen to rap, but I'm not gonna say unfounded things such as "RETARDS ATTEMPTING POETRY LOLOLOL", because that would be immature. All music takes talent to produce, and I believe the artists should be respected in that manner. Blinding criticizing any music genre without listening to it is also silly, which is what a good portion of people in this thread were doing.

PS. for your information, I listen to trance (widely called "techno" though).

Doc Holidae
04-24-2005, 02:37 AM
sorry about that. didn't read the rest of it. seein as how it was 7 pages. but my posts weren't aime you specifically. they were aimed at anyone who disses my fav genre of music. the day someone shows me a punk ropck singer that can sing a 4 and half minute song off the toip of his head if the day i start hating rap.

Seiferoth
04-24-2005, 02:45 AM
yea, its good that u support rap, but dont give us rap- lovers a bad name by spammin the crap outta the page, aight?


the day someone shows me a punk ropck singer that can sing a 4 and half minute song off the toip of his head if the day i start hating rap.

well, it takes absolutely no skill to just start insulting yourself, sayin how your life sucks and you wanna die for 4 and a half minutes, anybody can to that. the challenge is tryin to freestlye- make rhymes tht make perfect sense and still be funny and/or insulting to your opponent.

The Ricky
04-24-2005, 05:47 AM
Dude, I said it once before, people have different tastes in music, this is one of those things that ain't gonna change. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT!!! THE NEXT PERSON WHO COMPLAINS ABOUT WHO GENRES ABOUT MUSIC IS GONNA EAT THE DINGLEBERRIES OUTTA MY ASS!!!

Maria
04-25-2005, 01:15 PM
Dude, I said it once before, people have different tastes in music, this is one of those things that ain't gonna change.

Exactly!

Bus Driver
04-27-2005, 02:18 AM
most rap is just some guy talking about how "gansta" he is and how hard it was growing up in the "hood"....pls...

You try growing up in neighborhood with crackheads and drunks wandering the streets and violence everywhere.

Prak
04-27-2005, 02:24 AM
Oh my. You described my neighborhood. Guess what! I still hate rap.

Bus Driver
04-27-2005, 03:01 AM
That wasn't the point, the point was that she treated it like its some fairy tale life when in fact she has no clue what she is talking about.

Cloud20747
04-27-2005, 03:39 AM
You know you don't have to listen it if you don't like it. I do it for country music.
But I LOOOOOOVE RAP!

Prak
04-27-2005, 03:46 AM

Cloud20747
04-27-2005, 04:58 AM

That's a good one

KREAYSHAWN
04-27-2005, 03:15 PM
I like to cut myself while listening to Dead Kennedys and The Clash, music which is primarily about self hatred and satan worship.

oh no wait,. you know nothing about punk?___?

hell, even the crappy pop punk bands (as opposed to the good ones) that came out weren't depressing, they were mostly happy. but still shit.

but this is pretty redundant. it's silly of me to expect rationality to prevail on a "I H8 RAP" thread.

Maria
04-29-2005, 04:53 PM
Oh my. You described my neighborhood. Guess what! I still hate rap.

lol =)

fascist socialist
04-29-2005, 05:06 PM
it's silly of me to expect rationality to prevail on a "I H8 RAP" thread.

haha

it's true though.

FearFactoryFan
05-16-2005, 04:35 AM
I dont like it. I dont agree with a lot of the messages. But to each his own. But... I do find it irritating when someone says that they like a rapper because of the beats. Honestly, how many rappers make their own beats? Some do, but most of it is done in the studio by other, more creative people who in the end get no real credit...

KREAYSHAWN
05-16-2005, 06:38 PM
most music is heavily edited in studio.

and doesn't that mean all solo singers are stealing credit from their staff? they're underlings for a reason, no good fuckers.

The Ricky
05-18-2005, 06:41 AM
Why can't this fucking thread die. Motherfuck!!!!

Chilover
05-24-2005, 12:49 AM
I used to like it but my eyes are open and I have realized that rap sucks!! They are just saying things and they are not even singing the words. Anyone can do that which is why I am so baffled to their popularity.

X-2rules
05-25-2005, 05:49 PM
i absolutly hate Rap, Hip-Hop, and sort of that kind of music they could at least have A TUNE! or a decent voice god they are bad and 50 cent well dont get me started him and that song with the game! or what ever he is called! *Sharpens Knife*

Girl-Anachronism
05-25-2005, 06:27 PM
hahaha. I agree with you X-2rules. I truly hate rap, hiphop and all that shit. But there are a few (very verrrry few) 'good' rappers out there. Such as Eminem. But I cant stand the beat ...it gets waay to annoying and repetitive. Especially how rappers now are taking (and I actually mean stealing) rock tunes from other songs and using it in their songs. It just doesnt mix. Its disgusting.

lenneth
05-25-2005, 07:33 PM
does rap really bother you guys that much? i mean i know theres some music i'm not particularly fond of but i dont go around saying OH GOD ITS DISGUSTING I CANT STAND IT I WANT TO KILL RAPPERS.

TK
05-25-2005, 07:43 PM
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lenneth
05-25-2005, 08:52 PM
thats probably the best fanart i have ever seen.

Atom Narmor
06-24-2005, 01:55 AM
I used to like it but my eyes are open and I have realized that rap sucks!! They are just saying things and they are not even singing the words. Anyone can do that which is why I am so baffled to their popularity.

THEY is to general, i'm very sure you don't know much about hip hop maybe rap, but not "hip hop"...I hate labels, anyway people fear and hate what they don't understand..


no, what you don't understand is that rock is a form of hip hop and vice versa. Hendrix was the prototype hard rock artist with the big hair and fanatical fans. Even elvis ripped his style off of a Black southern club, listening from the outside. Rock/Hip Hop Both stem from the same culture and people(americans mainly shaped the sound), look back in history don't listen to me. It's the race of people doing the music that allows it to be labeled in the 1st place, this shouldn't be; and as i've said b4 a lot of you don't know TRUE hip hop. You let MTV shape your view on this form of music. Rap(Rapping) is the act of an emcee on a mic, there is mad Hip Hop that doesn't even involve lyrics. As i've said earlier Hip Hop is actualy framed and descended from African drumb/dance and both are GREAT, but Hip Hop is surely most profound in that it is shaped and fueled by an opressed and misunderstood people.

Chilover
06-25-2005, 01:08 AM
THEY is to general, i'm very sure you don't know much about hip hop maybe rap, but not "hip hop"...I hate labels, anyway people fear and hate what they don't understand..
Ok, that is true, some are actually talented but the majority SUCKS and are talentless!

Pirate Cereal
06-25-2005, 01:15 AM
RAP- Retards Attempting Poetry.
You're my fuckin hero. Couldn't of said it better myself.

fascist socialist
06-25-2005, 02:01 AM
Then that would make a good portion of the Fiction and Poetry forum "rappers".

Dark Mage626
06-25-2005, 02:18 AM
RAP- Retards Attempting Poetry.
THATS EXACLTY WHAT THAT CRAP IS!!!

Mental Issues69
06-25-2005, 02:35 AM
I dont like rap. it's just not my favorite genre of music. everyone has a favorite and least favorite type of music. and rap is my least favorite. Plus, it gets annoying after a while. And my neighbors like to play rap music so loud in the middle of the day or night. it gets so annoying. :(

Atom Narmor
06-25-2005, 07:01 PM
stop fuckn callin it rap, those heartless greedy record execs that sold it to hell labeled it that when it's true and more respectable name was hip hop. "Rap" is the art of rhyming over the microphone, the emcee is rapping! U know what, i'll post a superior hip hop track for all u mis educated boys n girls that let the radio banish your brain cells with sinister underlying frequencies next time I post here. This isn't a fuckin legit vote casting thread to end the art form and most of you DON'T know how to produce it, so stop bashing it damnit!!!


Why can't this fucking thread die. Motherfuck!!!!

yah.

I bet the majority of you in here are Euro cats who's parents were raised off the beatles, if not that asiatics who also don't know what the hell's going on in America to put an end to Hip Hop's bastard evil Damion like son "Rap". Only a select few, mainly hip hop's original patriarchs are fighting this; I am also a rebel. This art has been raped and molested more so in this latter part of our generation than any other time. Also, the maine inheriters of this art (black males) are finantialy at rock bottom here so it's natural in a sick sad way that they would sell thier heritage away to big buisness for the sake of profit. I for one will not do so and am a superior DJ because of this. i tell you kids there is hip hop out there you wouldn't believe and i'd bet a pile of jagged toe nails and a million dollars you'd buy every one of my fabulous(not the rapper) mix tapes!


you say that rap is crap? maybe it is. or maybe, you're just jealous that they can do somthin you can't. rappers rapping about bitches, cars, and money is about as common as a pop sionger singing about the girl/boy next door who they can't get until the end of the video. not only are rap lyrics thoughtful and often times funny, but the metaphors, similies, etc that are found in rap are second to none. me and my boy Seiferoth understand rap and how hard it is. you call it crap? why is this? what's ur favorite type of music? i'll bet you my left nut(which i'm sure you'll sleep with it in ur mouth) that it's punk rock, country, or death metal.



well, if u aint got an opinion, then stop wastin space and get the hell outta this thread. wtf wuz ya last post? "hahahahaha" ? can you say SPAM???
anyway...
yea, man, that punk rock BS is way crappier than rap.

seriously, who the hell sings about how fucked up they are, how they wanna die, an how they hate themselves?? those dumbass punk rock singers who aint got no kinda lyrical talent whasoever. anybody can get an electric giutar and just play some random shiite at random, but how many of u can spit 8 bars off the top of ya heads?

NONE OF YALL. (except maybe Doc. and me of course. )

They have some points also regardless of insults thrown n the like. Hip Hop has been raped just like the people who made it.

KREAYSHAWN
06-28-2005, 06:58 PM
You're my fuckin hero. Couldn't of said it better myself.

you must be pretty bad at saying things. ;(

Doc Holidae
06-29-2005, 12:05 AM
stop fuckn callin it rap, those heartless greedy record execs that sold it to hell labeled it that when it's true and more respectable name was hip hop. "Rap" is the art of rhyming over the microphone, the emcee is rapping! U know what, i'll post a superior hip hop track for all u mis educated boys n girls that let the radio banish your brain cells with sinister underlying frequencies next time I post here. This isn't a fuckin legit vote casting thread to end the art form and most of you DON'T know how to produce it, so stop bashing it damnit!!!



yah.

I bet the majority of you in here are Euro cats who's parents were raised off the beatles, if not that asiatics who also don't know what the hell's going on in America to put an end to Hip Hop's bastard evil Damion like son "Rap". Only a select few, mainly hip hop's original patriarchs are fighting this; I am also a rebel. This art has been raped and molested more so in this latter part of our generation than any other time. Also, the maine inheriters of this art (black males) are finantialy at rock bottom here so it's natural in a sick sad way that they would sell thier heritage away to big buisness for the sake of profit. I for one will not do so and am a superior DJ because of this. i tell you kids there is hip hop out there you wouldn't believe and i'd bet a pile of jagged toe nails and a million dollars you'd buy every one of my fabulous(not the rapper) mix tapes!






They have some points also regardless of insults thrown n the like. Hip Hop has been raped just like the people who made it.


why do you have such a problem with it being called rap. that's what it is. hip-hop is a from of music, and rap is certain hip-hop style. it's rap, get over it. nobody raped hip-hop, they changed it. hip-hop still exists. wtf is your problem? you sit there and defend it up and down and then turn right around and attack it.

my_chemical_romance
06-29-2005, 01:40 PM
You can't even understand a word thats why I wrote a song for my band called- Rap is shite lets all murder 50 cent xD

RAP SUCKS! u can't understand it, it gives u no emotions like rock does and the "rappers" have no talent as their music makes no sens or emotion.....

Anything else?

RAP SUCKS!
EMO RULES!

KREAYSHAWN
06-29-2005, 07:41 PM
You can't even understand a word thats why I wrote a song for my band called- Rap is shite lets all murder 50 cent xD

I am sure he is terrified, what, with a successful artist like you condeming that no talent lose-- o wait.

Doc Holidae
06-29-2005, 09:32 PM
and i guess emo's so much better, right? a bunch of people makin millions of dollars and livin the good life by making songs about how life sucks? a guy screaming the same thing over and over into a microphone over some generic rock music, that's awesome. are these emo guys supposed to be hardcore or somethin? i mean, if i went out wearin a tie and eyeliner all the time, i'd get my ass kciked. rock and roll people are just plain fucked up. i mean, i see guys runnin around in women's pants wearin shirts thatare three sizes too small and then people goin "dude, those jeans are awesome." W T F!? i used to kind of like that type of msuic. now i take a step back and realize how stupid i must've looked.

explain this kinda culture to me. i mean, maybe with a good explaination i might actually get it.

TK
06-30-2005, 02:33 AM
That's it. That is IT. Never again.