if you put your PS2 verticl it will damage it..

Wow, you're an idiot!

Sony designed the PS2 for Vertical playback - part of it's whole 'monolith' shape. In fact, my first generation PS2 is just starting to die - and the only time it will play DVDs is when it is vertical. It won't read them in the horizontal position.

so, if you mind me asking, the ps2 will play the dvds or games better when standing vertical?

Wow, you're an idiot!

Sony designed the PS2 for Vertical playback - part of it's whole 'monolith' shape. In fact, my first generation PS2 is just starting to die - and the only time it will play DVDs is when it is vertical. It won't read them in the horizontal position.
My oringal playstation used to stall and I had to put it vertical to get it going agian.

Once, I stood my playstation up vertically, and after about 10 minutes or so, it exploded! And then it exploded again!

so, if you mind me asking, the ps2 will play the dvds or games better when standing vertical?

The DVD engine is designed to work in a vertical position - so you will get less DREs, and it will wear less if it is kept vertical.

Oh, and you don't need one of those stupid stands, either - my PS2 stands just fine by its own weight.

but the stand looks hot.

looks hot.

but it's wide and angular :(

hot... like your mum

good old modern systems. the ps2 is such a piece of shit. 3-4 yrs old and they die and have disk read error and all that shit. I know people that have to fuck with a ps2 to get it to work longer than it takes me to get my 20 yr old NES working. pathetic

Difference: Cartridge is a solid state system, while a CD-rom drive requires a motor to work. If we still used solid-state systems, cartridges alone would cost a shitload, especially for DVD rom sizes (about 7-8 gig). Either they would be the size of a normal Harddrive, and cost about $150, or they'd be the size of the old NES cartridges, and cost upwards of $400.

I'd take a crappy system I can replace and DVD media any day.

Not to mention this new shit that's coming out with the new playstation in... a year or so?... The blue-laser shit with DVD's that hold a heck of a lot more information than normal DVD's and some snazzy new processor that supposedly blows all other shit away by a long shot...

That sounds like my type of system.

if you put your PS2 verticl it will damage it..
Nope, you heard wrong.

Difference: Cartridge is a solid state system, while a CD-rom drive requires a motor to work. If we still used solid-state systems, cartridges alone would cost a shitload, especially for DVD rom sizes (about 7-8 gig). Either they would be the size of a normal Harddrive, and cost about $150, or they'd be the size of the old NES cartridges, and cost upwards of $400.

I'd take a crappy system I can replace and DVD media any day.

I'll take my solid state system NES and SNES over crappy dvd bases new systems anyday

Cartridge systems rock, but disc media systems can do so much more......

If we still used solid-state systems, cartridges alone would cost a shitload, especially for DVD rom sizes (about 7-8 gig). Either they would be the size of a normal Harddrive, and cost about $150, or they'd be the size of the old NES cartridges, and cost upwards of $400.

I'd take a crappy system I can replace and DVD media any day.

It's just an intermediary solution though. Movements in the future will probably go to a flashcard sort of medium. High in storage but still compact in size, rather than something the size of a regular harddrive or NES cart(which were freakishly huge even when they first came out. Famicom carts were less than half the size... and they're the same system.)



Cartridge systems rock, but disc media systems can do so much more......

They can actually do much less. But they have a huge advantage in high storage at an affordable price, and that more than makes up for their incapabilities otherwise. Cartridges can do more, like having new hardware be included inside the game, which is part of the reason why I think things will move back to that sort of thing once storage becomes more affordable, and that ought to have happened by the beginning of the generation after PS3.

Yeah, but after PS3, how much further can new and interesting storylines have progressed?

I mean, short of an all-out run through a true-to-source universe based on Frank Herbert's Dune Saga or something like that, I don't see how that much hardware could be fully utilized...