MEGA has suspended my account.

It will take some time to figure out what to do now.

Because my account got suspended, all my links for anything are dead.

AAC@TV127
MP3@320
MP3@V-0

links added to first post (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/%5Baudiophile%5D%5B24-48%5D-%5Bresampled%5D-clint-mansell-noah-2014-a-183780/#post2851748).



I don't use OGG format so much as I prefer MP3 or AAC.
AAC>MP3.

But, if I were to transcode to OGG format, what bitrates would people expect?
Foobar2000 has a wide scope.
Maximum 500 kbps. Which, I'm sure is overkill since OGG is pretty efficient and complex that a 500 OGG is close to a 640 AC3 compression.

What do people normally go for? 250-350?
I need feedback on this. I may start throwing in OGG versions.
Also, is it just the one OGG encoder or are there different builds available? I currently just have whatever is in the FB2K encoder pack.

Very interesting, thank you. :)

Thanks a lot!!
Please share the original 24bit 96kHz FLAC files too!

original 24bit 96kHz

No.
I showed you in the first post it's a useless sample rate.
You gain nothing having the originals.

I also educated you on what a high quality resampler is.

No.
I showed you in the first post it's a useless sample rate.
You gain nothing having the originals.

I also educated you on what a high quality resampler is.

so, it begs the question why they came up with 96kHz...? for money?

No.
I showed you in the first post it's a useless sample rate.
You gain nothing having the originals.

I also educated you on what a high quality resampler is.

Some people actually like to be fooled. Or they are just... dumb.

Whatever, I just love your post! How many people try to educate others about - seemingly - unimportant matters? I didn�t know that eac3to had become that good.

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so, it begs the question why they came up with 96kHz...? for money?

Can I answer that?

Yes, for money. Audiophiles aren�t technical people, they believe everything you tell them - and they will pay for it. They always say "I listen with my ears, not with frequency analyzing software" - that�s how they can be fooled.

Thanks for your share.

sparktank, sthanks for making this version available. good call on the wasted bandwith. you should call them for a money refund, because they "fooled" you. well, i know why you got the 96khz version. still, they should refund you.

i did the same you did for noah and interstellar on the dark knight rises -> 192khz/24bit to 48khz/24bit. why waste 3gb if 800mb are perfect and no quality loss :)
gotta check ghostbusters and see if i can save some space as well *hehe*

I would have purcased a 24/48 version if it was avaialble.
But just the 24/96 was available.

I don't think a lot of studios are actually recording in >48kHz these days.

A lot of HD digital retailers seem to mirror what HDtracks has. Don't know if it's from the same source or not.
So no way to tell if it's the studio masters or just HDT and their software doing something funky.

If it was genuine 96kHz, can you imagine the editing you can do?

This is a great post to be learning some things. Very interesting. Thanks.

Thank you for sharing this.

Regards.

they should refund you.

People have tried and even provided proof from various spectrographs about their sales.
They won't do anything and just keep saying "they check with with their audio professionals on their professional software and it shows there is activity beyond 24kHz".
They just talk back mostly whenever they can.

I would have purcased a 24/48 version if it was avaialble.
But just the 24/96 was available.

I don't think a lot of studios are actually recording in >48kHz these days.

A lot of HD digital retailers seem to mirror what HDtracks has. Don't know if it's from the same source or not.
So no way to tell if it's the studio masters or just HDT and their software doing something funky.

If it was genuine 96kHz, can you imagine the editing you can do?

I bought 'Xscape' at Quobuz. While HDT offered a 24/44.1 version, Quobuz offered 24/96. Because of the age of some tracks, two had an extended frequency response, most were 44.1, others were at 48 kHz. The title track for example was produced within an environment employing 48 kHz (mixing, synths, samplers, etc.) but recorded on analogue tape (one can glimpse artifacts like aliasing/imaging caused by samplers & synths). I decided to keep it at 96 kHz. But who - HDT or Quobuz - released the more 'honest' version? For those releases I use WavPack Hybrid, it�s a good compromise, I can keep it at its original samplerate and bitdepth and I can actually use them for transcoding to AAC or MP3 should I need to do so.

Or 'Dangerous' (MJ again): it�s sold on Quobuz in 24/96. Yet it�s bandwith limited at precisely 22,050 Hz -> 44.1 production environment, again recorded to analogue tape. You can see bias tones and other tape artifacts. So the master is analogue but contains mostly 44.1 material. On occasion you have full bandwith, but rarely.

And I doubt that HDT is doing something funky. Most of the time, the labels are upsampling stuff because they want to cash in on people expecting to gain a huge advantage by listening to HiRes-material. HDT just releases the music as it is. When it comes to music and sound, no one is interested in "the truth". And if people continue to say "96 kHz is so awesome and way better than CD", the labels will exploit the Hell out of them. And they should - because people need to be punished for stupidity. Too harsh? You bet I am.

btw, ghostbusters is actual high-res material :)

I bought 'Xscape' at Quobuz. While HDT offered a 24/44.1 version, Quobuz offered 24/96. Because of the age of some tracks, two had an extended frequency response, most were 44.1, others were at 48 kHz. The title track for example was produced within an environment employing 48 kHz (mixing, synths, samplers, etc.) but recorded on analogue tape (one can glimpse artifacts like aliasing/imaging caused by samplers & synths). I decided to keep it at 96 kHz. But who - HDT or Quobuz - released the more 'honest' version? For those releases I use WavPack Hybrid, it�s a good compromise, I can keep it at its original samplerate and bitdepth and I can actually use them for transcoding to AAC or MP3 should I need to do so.

Or 'Dangerous' (MJ again): it�s sold on Quobuz in 24/96. Yet it�s bandwith limited at precisely 22,050 Hz -> 44.1 production environment, again recorded to analogue tape. You can see bias tones and other tape artifacts. So the master is analogue but contains mostly 44.1 material. On occasion you have full bandwith, but rarely.

And I doubt that HDT is doing something funky. Most of the time, the labels are upsampling stuff because they want to cash in on people expecting to gain a huge advantage by listening to HiRes-material. HDT just releases the music as it is. When it comes to music and sound, no one is interested in "the truth". And if people continue to say "96 kHz is so awesome and way better than CD", the labels will exploit the Hell out of them. And they should - because people need to be punished for stupidity. Too harsh? You bet I am.

Who's the lesser evil?
The studios/labels? The companies/retailers? The customers?

:itsamsytery:

Either way, I think we're going to be severely screwed for the coming years.
It's like all this crap about 8K TV and 12K TV and godknows what they're cramming up their a-holes.

Some people actually like to be fooled. Or they are just... dumb.

Whatever, I just love your post! How many people try to educate others about - seemingly - unimportant matters? I didn�t know that eac3to had become that good.

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Can I answer that?

Yes, for money. Audiophiles aren�t technical people, they believe everything you tell them - and they will pay for it. They always say "I listen with my ears, not with frequency analyzing software" - that�s how they can be fooled.
gee! it's like selling cars using ads "are cars are the fastest!" ...and the dismayed buyers wonder why so many cars whoosh past...

thanks ST

Thanks Sparktank

Thank you, Sparktank. Although I'm not particularly qualified to comment on the technical quality of your work, this does seem like a better sounding product... and I most definitely appreciate your effort in terms of both improving the score's sound quality and (as others have already noted) educating us.

reup FLAC please

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"Audiophile" version in 24bit and 48kHz.
Available in 96kHz.
Resampled to 48kHz.
eac3to seems to show it's really 24bit.

The 96kHz version is completely wasteful.
Have a look:

In The Beginning, There Was Nothing [24-96]


See? Useless beyond 48kHz.

So with eac3to, I resampled to 48.




Resampling Comparisons:
Go here:

http://src.infinitewave.ca/

And compare "eac3to (SSRC)" to "Weiss Saracon 1.6" or anything else.


It's a much cleaner conversion and more accurate.
You can also check against a 1Hz tone, passband, transition, etc.
eac3to wins this one.

Compare "eac3to (SSRC)" against official "SSRC High Precision".
The sweep results comes in cleaner with eace3to.




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FLAC: cmn2448re.rar 875.2 MB

https://mega.co.nz/#!rIUA0SQb!uhGqd8pqBMWAPGtRLglDt3reP9Ca6moRSixu89p tAqE

MP3@V-0: cmnv0.rar 151.9 MB

https://mega.co.nz/#!jYc0QLjT!j4MaYXvdPUgCrqmS3t8UId5JdT_kD3GHUJYxzls Q9F8

MP3@320: cmn320.rar 188.0 MB

https://mega.co.nz/#!eFkkka5S!6dwarYJ2qWts9pXXYYVRs_ZgBQeH0DP4OxxJlLy fw4k

AAC@Tvbr127 (True Variable Bit Rate; 127=highest quality)
Used QAAC+CoreAudioToolbox 7.9.9.3 (CAT from iTunes/Quicktime)
Stored in M4A container (.m4a file extension)

https://mega.co.nz/#!OYVFnA4J!s-3p6vLRAcmcyrU0QoJ7TwHHfkkwDjP0MOaE7ry_tU4

Password for all:

sparktank




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Use JDownloader.

http://jdownloader.org:8080/download/index

Use JDownloader 2 BETA.

http://jdownloader.org/download/offline




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Can you reup please?
Thank you!

Thanks!!!