i always wondered which on is the best... varese, intrada 1st release or intrada 2nd release?

what do you guys say, is it worth to get one of the intrada releases or should i stick with my varese cd?

2nd intrada.
mixed with the first intrada.

and lastly, varese just for collective purposes.
:smrt:

what makes the 2nd intrada release an improvement over 1st intrada and varese. also what would you mix into the 2nd release from the first one?

The 2nd Intrada release has tracks separated as their own tracks from the 1st release. 2nd release includes "The Aftermath" attached with the "The Pick-Up And End Credits" which wasn't on the first release. Apparently, the 2nd release was remastered. Although for me I didn't notice any sort of noticeable changes.

The Varese release was the 1st official release, but Intrada 2nd release fixed the track missing errors in the Aftermath & End Credits Track,plus sound improvement.
If you search the Forum for Predator Badass Motherfucker Edition 2nd Edition Intrada included. FYI sorry about the french but that's the title the person made it, even cover art has that on it.

What's improved about the sound though? I don't notice too much from the first Intrada release.

I looked at the Intrada site, and it provided little information.

I'm sure on the other forums (FSM and others) would have more detailed info about the different remastering.

I think the 2nd one works directly from DAT.

If you can't hear the difference, then it matters not which one you keep.
I kept both so one day I can really give it a blind listening test.

You may be able to tell on a great speaker set or professional headphones but for the casual listener... I don't think so. I think if you have either version you're in the win.

As shncrazy mentioned, the Verese release had Aftermath attached to the last track but when Intrada put out their first release they added about a minute worth but left out Aftermath. It was remastered and is the same other than the missing piece. They added Aftermath and about another minute to the ending, but retained the same quality. Here's a sample of that Track which was a sample piece being worked on by me and other private individuals before the second Intrada release.

Don't go by the Track length as it's not quite all there. 24-bit~48kHz sample. I can get all the tracks in their intirerty and will be the same as the final release but cleaner and clearer.

Remastered is such an overused term. I've seen remasters where the volume is just turned up and clipping all over the place and if you go back to the original release its a nice clean presentation. Sometimes the audio is definitely more cleared out and things you want to hear more of come through better. Really depends on who's doing the mixing and if they have any sense of what they're doing. I do recall some differences between the Varese and Intrada versions of Predator. And not sure but I think there is some clipping in places and the original Varese either did or didn't have some in the same spots.

The Varese release was the 1st official release, but Intrada 2nd release fixed the track missing errors in the Aftermath & End Credits Track,plus sound improvement.
If you search the Forum for Predator Badass Motherfucker Edition 2nd Edition Intrada included. FYI sorry about the french but that's the title the person made it, even cover art has that on it.

Yeah, I did the 'Bad Motherfucker' edition. Sorry guys I couldn't think of a better name for it.

One off topic thing I'd like to say ... FSM isn't very happy with our little forum. They are gonna hate me when I release my new Superman II album tomorrow

Yeah, I did the 'Bad Motherfucker' edition. Sorry guys I couldn't think of a better name for it.

One off topic thing I'd like to say ... FSM isn't very happy with our little forum. They are gonna hate me when I release my new Superman II album tomorrow

What about 'Get To Da Choppa Edition'

Doesn't matter about all these bootlegs and editions, really. I'm pretty happy with the 2nd official Intrada release and if there was some missing music it probably wasn't significant. Off hand, the Fox Fanfare is the Goldenthal version for Alien 3 on every official release but that's about all I can think of.

the alien3 fox fanfare was just stupid to include. i like the track and it worked great on alien3. still, who ever put it on the cd of predator should get a face hugger hugging.

Doesn't matter about all these bootlegs and editions, really. I'm pretty happy with the 2nd official Intrada release and if there was some missing music it probably wasn't significant. Off hand, the Fox Fanfare is the Goldenthal version for Alien 3 on every official release but that's about all I can think of.

It's Just Like Intrada's Rocky IV the only Version Cd they made with Vince DiCola And they Missed the end of The War Theme The Horns were taken away from it and it Skipped straight to the End Of the Track it gets me because these people put more effort in the film than they do for making it sound like it was on the film to CD but get paid milions for there job while you have to work at your job there is no slip ups or your sacked.

I understand and on the topic of DiCola how many versions or arrangement albums are we going to get of his Transformers: The Movie score? In the case of their Predator release I think they handled things rather well and if there was some slip up I certainly don't seem to notice much. Although I am confused why the Alien 3 version of the Fox Fanfare is always on every release haha.

I understand and on the topic of DiCola how many versions or arrangement albums are we going to get of his Transformers: The Movie score? In the case of their Predator release I think they handled things rather well and if there was some slip up I certainly don't seem to notice much. Although I am confused why the Alien 3 version of the Fox Fanfare is always on every release haha.
yeah it is confusing when they put another scores fanfare on another score that is totally different they don't totally take note on what they put on and how they present it and so forth

all for a quick sell $$��

It could just be some licensing thing too or the recording was simply lost. If they were having some issue getting the rights they should have just omitted it from the release. It's not really a big deal at all as there was already plenty of releases of the Fox Fanfare anyway.

It could just be some licensing thing too. If they were having some issue getting the rights they should have just omitted it from the release. It's not really a big deal at all as there was already plenty of releases of the Fox Fanfare anyway.

yeah but they supposedly would have the same rights to put the music on the score has they do the film surely they are millionaires it is not as if there on a short budget with the scores and merchandising we buy there films so we hear what they have put in and if it isn't in the soundtrack you wonder why how come they have the effort for the film but not the soundtrack.

who gives a shit why didn't use the original fox fanfare. there was no need include either one. it makes sense to include goldenthal's fanfare on the alien3 album, but on predator neither is needed.

Yeah, just get to the Main Title already haha. That's how the album should have began.

What about 'Get To Da Choppa Edition'

Yeahyeah, I should have thought of that before. It's perfect. What a boner I am

Uh, OK, I'll take that as a no-one want's the 24-bit!48kHz remasters. That's ok, It's a private collection anyway.

Uh, OK, I'll take that as a no-one want's the 24-bit!48kHz remasters. That's ok, It's a private collection anyway.

i'll take it if you want

Anyone else? You'll have to wait about a week for me to get all the files together and post them. Also yeah I know remastering has been abused as in turning up the volume or increasing the treble, but these go beyond that and I wouldn't post such a lame remaster set as an increased volume set. If you look at the sample closely I posted you'll notice (If you know how) that is a frequency graph, not volume, and you can see that the noise, hiss is very low, and the frequency response is a full 24kHz per channel at roll off.

spectre, i certainly would give your version a spin :)

I wouldn't mind giving it a listen as well but something at 24-bit is purely for archival purposes haha.

Anyone else? You'll have to wait about a week for me to get all the files together and post them. Also yeah I know remastering has been abused as in turning up the volume or increasing the treble, but these go beyond that and I wouldn't post such a lame remaster set as an increased volume set. If you look at the sample closely I posted you'll notice (If you know how) that is a frequency graph, not volume, and you can see that the noise, hiss is very low, and the frequency response is a full 24kHz per channel at roll off.

24/48, how have you come across these?
i'd be interested in them.

I'd be interested to know that as well. These would have to be right from the original masters and stored for archival purposes for latter CD release. I mean, if it's true 24/48 and all that is.

It's the same tracks as the second Intrada set. It's technically Predator 2.1, nothing new, just higher quality. I'm getting them from an individual that wanted me to work on them is all I can say. If you guys don't think it's worth keeping after listening just delete it. If you like it please keep it to yourselves.

I've got the files. I'll upload tonight.

1987 - Predator (v2.1) - Alan Silvestri (2012 version, Remastered Masters (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/1987-predator-v2-1-alan-silvestri-2012-a-183812)
PW=spectre8750

not to piss on everyone's parade, but couldn't you, you know, create a thread in the film music DL section and link to that thread ? GD is for discussion, not upload. just saying.

I can do that, no problem, I didn't really want to advertise to everyone, but I guess it's no big deal.

I can do that, no problem, I didn't really want to advertise to everyone, but I guess it's no big deal.

A low key approach I can respect that.

Anyone else? You'll have to wait about a week for me to get all the files together and post them. Also yeah I know remastering has been abused as in turning up the volume or increasing the treble, but these go beyond that and I wouldn't post such a lame remaster set as an increased volume set. If you look at the sample closely I posted you'll notice (If you know how) that is a frequency graph, not volume, and you can see that the noise, hiss is very low, and the frequency response is a full 24kHz per channel at roll off.

Sounds intriguing:-)

Spectre8750...thanks hail'S... Damn cant git those web pages can sumone who gits it upload to mega or sumthin else or p.m. please....

this thread is not about download problems of a certain release. for that, please refer to the proper thread. thanks.