724921
12-19-2014, 02:55 AM
Most major scores are mixed in 5.1 in addition to the stereo mix. Does anyone have multichannel mixes to share?

PM me, I'm willing to trade as well.

JHFan
12-19-2014, 04:22 AM
DAMMIT I wish. So many scores I'd love to hear surround mixes for, but what gets shared so often sound like properly downmixed stereo presentations, the sort used for albums but sometimes without the added compression and sweetening and so on.

If I had 5.1 mixes for some of the custom complete scores I've done...sweet Jebus those would rock. I just doubt we would ever see such things surface here.

724921
12-19-2014, 02:57 PM
I've traded for a few 5.1 mixes in the past. The more I get into surround the more I crave these. I currently use 5 identical PSB floorstanders and discrete bi amplification (pure class A amps for all the mid ranges) for all channels in my dedicated, heavily treated surround room, what I got sounded AMAZING. Like beyond any retail 5.1 presentations.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
12-20-2014, 01:47 AM
Outside of isolated scores?

Anything would definitely be interesting to listen to.
If shared publicly.

I've nothing to trade.

My only experience with surround sound scores is whatever there is for isolated scores.
And only a small few actually got lossless transfers. And even with those few, a couple of them you have to import.

That and end credit suites from blurays.

Long Duk Dong
12-27-2014, 11:49 PM
Slightly off-topic, but what programs do you use to play these surround tracks/files on your computers?

JHFan
12-28-2014, 07:48 AM
Slightly off-topic, but what programs do you use to play these surround tracks/files on your computers?

I don't.

I use my computer to edit, but I play everything on my home theater system.

724921
12-30-2014, 07:35 PM
I use JRiver. It has very good DSP / parametric EQs. See I use discrete biamplfication which means I need to generate 2 signals for each front, one set for the highs and mids, another for the lows. Having said this, the only drawback is 8+ channel DACs are expensive and the passive volume controls required to use them are even more expensive generally.

Foobar2k is better if you're music only (I use my dedicated room for video playback as well), and don't need complex output configurations, digital crossovers or dsp.

I stopped using hardware players a long time ago. High end computers located outside of your listening room are the way to go. I currently have a middle of the line gaming PC (4790k, 16gb ram, pair of GTX 970s + a seperate AMD GPU for HDMI audio) across the hall from my dedicated room which pulls media from my servers.

JHFan
12-30-2014, 08:39 PM
I neither have the money or the interest in using computers for anything like that anymore. Used to, but gave up on that long ago. I once dabbled in that with a PC I built years ago and found it more frustrating and overly complicated, and even if I were interested in that now, the simple fact is I couldn't afford it. BC isn't cheap and my job won't allow for many perks, just paying the rent and groceries.

That being said, I am satisfied with what I have. I have a very simple, cheap Sony HDMI AVR which outputs PCM 7.1 surround, I finally have the space for the 8 speakers now, and they are balanced and clear with just the right amount of bass I enjoy. It's really what I've wanted for years and achieved it. I don't need the best of anything, I just need to be satisfied with what I have and I am...and I did it all on the cheap. No pre-pro, no fancy dipole speakers, nothing of the sort....and I've worked with home theater products like that in the past. I see the benefits of them but for my own needs they aren't necessary I don't need to try to match a movie theater with reference level volume...I live in the first floor of a house with neighbors above. It's just not necessary in my situation. I'll get a relatively inexpensive projector soon, because I'd rather get something larger and ultimately cheaper than a big screen TV. I don't have the TV on all day or play video games much at all, so it'll do nicely since it won't have to meet the usage demands a television would. Lamp replacement shouldn't be too bad. I have a small TV for the news and whatnot anyway. I don't have HD cable anymore so watching CTV news projected at 80 inches or something in low-res standard cable really isn't going to happen.

The one thing I would do if I owned this place rather than rented would be to go for in-wall / in-ceiling speakers, since I've always loved how much space is saved and if done right, can indeed sound wonderfully rich and naturally atmospheric.

I have a PS3 for my media but I'm going to get something which has far more format compatibility like a slingbox-type device, keeping PS3 for disc playback.

I would be interested in going for Dolby Atmos, but that's not a must-have, just a would-be-cool some day if the AVR cost comes down. That is indeed a great reason to go for in-walls if one has the means.

All in time. but no big deal if it doesn't happen.


I would ask what surround scores you have, but since I have nothing to trade (though this is not even a trading forum anyway), there's no point since it's not like I'm going to ever get to hear them.

mr_merrick
12-30-2014, 09:48 PM
Surround wise I have nothing that's unreleased (to my knowledge) but have many out of print SACD's and DVD-Audio discs that I can convert into FLAC or other if required. Most of the OST stuff I've shared here but by all means let me know if you need anything in particular.
Like yourself I also have 5 identical speakers but had to pack 3 of them away since I moved my system to a smaller room. Stereo's fine for now as I now listen to more music than movies, but I definitely know what I'm missing out on.

724921
12-31-2014, 12:57 AM
Im 5.1 only. My 21x15 foot room is nowhere near capable of 7.1 surround. Fronts are 3+ feet from any wall, the rears are 2 feet off the walls. 7.1 would barely fit and I have to assume my amp array will only grow + I hope to get rid of my current sub pair and switch to 4 diy subs paired to a set of 2000 watt crown amps. I had to put my class a for all 5 high / mids on hold since it turns out Id be using almost 2400watts at idle LMAO.

For most listening levels a reciever is more than enough. I am a) paranoid, neurotic and delusional b) really into reference level reproduction since I spend about 6 hours a day watching films as I work and c) one of those dumb audiophiles. I occasionally do surround mixes on this setup but most stuff I do for work ends up getting mixed on my 2ch bedroom rig. This room really is just for music listening and 'big' movies?

---------- Post added at 06:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:50 PM ----------

i havent tried consumer atmos. My friend was playing with one of their cinema processors on his rig and it was pretty damn incredible (I was only able to give him trailers. No DCPs with Atmos audio decrypted yet).
I've been looking into it, ceiling speakers seem like a hassle and no one can decode Atmos in software which is a big deal because no recievers have room correction worth shit nor can they do custom output configurations. I'll wait till theres a software decoder and then buy ceiling speakers. The only worry is anyone who has a dropped ceiling / a large number of floating ceiling panels (they're coming for me in feb), are shit out of luck when it comes to overheads.
Im damn happy with 5.1 since music is my thing and most films down mix to 5.1 beautifully. Long term Id like to sort out a proper 7.1 system and eventually those ceiling speakers for films.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
12-31-2014, 01:29 AM
no one can decode Atmos in software

I think Cyberlink or one of the higher, top-tier paid software companies would be the first ones to decode Atmos as Atmos (and not strip it down to just basic Dolby TrueHD).

Since most of it has been reversed engineered in the first place, freeware codecs like LAV Filters (FFDShow has shown less activity and some of the builds have ceased major updates) will likely have to resort to installing/hacking third-party decoders (like LAV Filters does with (now-no-longer-developed) Arcsoft TMT using their dtsdecoderdll.dll to decode DTSHDMA; as LAV/FFDShow just decode DTS core only without Arcsoft).

Unless someone is rich enough to donate enough money for them to purchase a fully-fledged SDK from Dolby so they can have all the specs and documentation to create a working codec for Dolby Atmos and whatever other Dolby formats are out there but not commercially marketable yet.

Atmos seems more like a gimmick right now. For theater experiences and those with Atmos-compatible receivers.