hmancini
12-13-2014, 05:10 AM
In the 80's, Roy Budd (composer of Get Carter) rerecorded several movie themes with the LSO.

The first one :

Space movie themes

(http://postimg.org/image/z0jd5wxez/)

Tracklisting :

1. STAR WARS THEME (05:35) From star Wars
2. PRINCESS LEIA'S THEME (05:03) From star Wars
3. IMPERIAL MARCH (03:09) From The Empire Strikes Back
4. YODA'S THEME (04:08) From The Empire Strikes Back
5. HAN SOLO AND THE PRINCESS (04:49) From The Empire Strikes Back
6. PARADE OF THE EWOKS (03:57) From Return Of The Jedi
7. THE COMPLETE STAR TREK SUITE (08:32) Comprising The TV Theme, Star Trek/The Movie, The Wrath Of Khan, The Search For Spock
8. MARS (08:09) Gustav Holst
9. GALAXY 239 (02:37) Roy Budd
10. MARCH OF THE VILLAINS (02:27) Superman
11. LOVE THEME 'CAN YOU READ MY MIND' (05:33) Superman
12. SUPERMAN THEME (04:17) Superman

Links :

http://uptobox.com/7ttjq1o87jw0

or

http://ul.to/b08y8rs9

The second one :

Fantasy movie themes

(http://postimg.org/image/78a6meutz/)

Tracklisting :

1. SUITE: RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK AND INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM (05:55) JOHN WILLIAMS
2. SINBAD AND THE EYE OF THE TIGER (08:06) ROY BUDD
3. THE WILD GEESE (03:09) ROY BUDD
4. THE MARK OF ZORRO (07:25) ALFRED NEWMAN
5. THE PLANET OF DREAMS (04:58) ROY BUDD
6. ALIEN (07:39) JERRY GOLDSMITH
7. THE FINAL CONFLICT (04:08) JERRY GOLDSMITH
8. SUPERGIRL (08:15) JERRY GOLDSMITH
9. E.T. SYMPHONIC SUITE (11:35) JOHN WILLIAMS
10. WHEN YOU WISH UPON A STAR (05:25) WASHINGTON/HARLINE

Links :

http://uptobox.com/aybot6o878m7

or

http://ul.to/ny8678pz

Excerpt on youtube :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnbefsbgIl8

gururu
12-13-2014, 05:13 AM
Having never heard these, anybody want to comment on Budd's interpretations, particularly the Goldsmith?

hmancini
12-13-2014, 05:31 AM
I found one thing on youtube. I edited my post!

Anocha Suwichakornpong
12-13-2014, 05:45 AM
The Omen 3 interpretation is the best - you can actually understand the words the choir is saying.

markcope1961
12-13-2014, 11:20 AM
Another excellent share. Many thanks for these, they have some excellent tracks and Budd's interpretations should be very good.

alejandrodelcla
12-13-2014, 03:28 PM
gracias miles����

laohu
12-13-2014, 07:50 PM
thanks henry :)

m.a. de hoyos
12-13-2014, 08:55 PM
Thanks for the music, very nice.

reziser
12-16-2014, 04:28 PM
Lovely post. Thank you very much. Great to hear 'new' versions of 'old' stuff. :)

melshoe
12-16-2014, 09:37 PM
VERY interesting. Thanks a lot.

tangotreats
12-16-2014, 10:48 PM
I write the following as a BIG fan of Roy Budd - additionally, the following scathing criticisms are in no way intended to denigrate the efforts of the poster which are, as ever, deeply appreciated.

I think the key word I associate with these old recordings is "awful" - funded out of Budd's own pocket, they are under-rehearsed and badly recorded. I wonder if the London Symphony Orchestra has ever sounded this bad on record before or since. It is difficult to ignore the the crumbling ensemble, cracked (and downright wrong) notes, atrocious intonation, and frequent wandering off tempo - one is left in disbelief that one is hearing one of the world's finest ensembles - arguably the world's most experienced orchestra as far as film music is concerned. One suspects much, if not all, the blame should be given to Mr Budd - he was a remarkable jazz pianist (at one of my local pubs, The Bull's Head) by skill and profession, but mostly self-taught and had no structured musical education. His arrangements reveal his orchestral shortcomings and frankly he had no business conducting the London Symphony Orchestra. These CDs were a vanity project and nothing more - a man with a lot of money and some very noble ideas working massively outside of his comfort and skill zones.

One can almost hear the orchestra's frustration in their performance. Witness the insane tempo of the start of James Horner's Wrath Of Khan theme in the Star Trek suite (track 7 of Space Movie Themes) - the French horns are completely unable to articulate at this tempo, leaving behind a pitiful mess of rumbling, farting. (It's interesting to note that the best performance on the disc is of Holst's Planets - a piece with which Budd did not meddle and which, as a popular part of the core classical repertoire, the LSO could play in their sleep.)

The Goldsmith pieces are interesting - Alien suffers from Budd's orchestrational tinkering - the trumpet solo (one of Jerry's most glorious) midway through the end title is atrocious, and the build up to the final stabbing chords is completely ruined by confused tempo and collapsing ensemble. The very first note in the Final Conflict suite is cracked and the brass isn't together. Jerry's music depends on rhythmic confidence and tight ensemble and neither are present here. The choir is too forward. The transition from Main Title to The Second Coming is awkward and again, everybody is starting playing at a different time. The strings fall apart, wrecking another climax, and the piece peters out with barely a whimper. Supergirl. I played "Supergirl" to my ex girlfriend a few years ago for her opinion - and it was telling: "This sounds like Goldsmith, but at the same time it doesn't." Budd's overbaked "Royal Variety Performance" opening fanfare breaks up Goldsmith's motif into thirty seconds of ludicrous, badly orchestrated, and over-insistent orchestral posturing - the like of which Jerry never did. Cascading strings and woodwinds create a blurred monstrosity of noise, over which Goldsmith's main melody is repeated by badly-intoned brass - four bloody times with no variation save for some celli and double bass backup appearing during the second repetition. A silly descending passage for syrupy pizzicati basses, tremolo strings, woodwind, wind chimes, and celesta lead to Goldsmith's sublime love theme on French horn solo, ruined with the baffling addition of some incredibly tacky swooning, sub-divided violins. The harmonies are all Budd's. Strings take up the melody and turn it into some dreadful cliche-laden "unrequited love across the stars" piece. Budd continues to tinker with the arrangement, flattening all of Jerry's characteristic chords, turning the whole thing into a redux of The Wild Geese. Suddenly, out of the silence, a high-school brass section jump into some of Goldsmith's action music which is basically unchanged from the film arrangement... but then it all goes South again with a stupidly high-pitched trumpet (that, again, can barely get the notes out) screaming out the main melody at ludicrous speed. Then, to finish off, we get a badly played version of the End Titles music.

The ET suite starts off not too bad - apart from some truly tragic brass cracks followed by a strange progressive slowdown in tempo that I imagine was meant to add gravitas, but it is actually too slow to the extent that you can actually hear the orchestra getting uncomfortable and at one stage before the restatement of the flying theme, they almost seem to be hurrying Budd along.

I wish I could like these. But in my opinion, they may be the biggest mis-step in film re-recording history - and I include in that assessment the notorious mid 90's no-rehearsal Prague recordings. At the time of release, a very significant number of the scores represented were unavailable, but that is no longer the case.

Thank you for posting, thank you MOST SINCERELY...

But personally, I just don't find anything to enthuse about herein.

:)

hmancini
12-17-2014, 01:52 AM
It's true that some of the tracks are not very.... good. At the time I bought these cds, it was for the rerecordings of Zorro, Sinbad and Final conflict on the 2nd cd. Indiana jones is , yep, awful.
The 1st cd, well, I was and still am a big fan of Star wars and Superman.... so.
In the same time, with a hard drive, keep only the tracks you like.

gururu
12-17-2014, 02:41 AM
I write the…following scathing criticisms…

Thank you for saving me the trouble. The Supergirl suite is particularly atrocious.

rgg
12-17-2014, 07:24 PM
Thanks again for these other beautiful compilations !

starwatcher
12-18-2014, 01:24 AM
Many thanks!

k555
12-18-2014, 03:22 AM
Thanks

FraGo
12-18-2014, 06:01 AM
I will listen...
Thank you anyway for sharing

Kaolin
01-07-2015, 08:48 PM
Thanks.

music123
03-13-2015, 08:36 PM
tangotreats WTF? Are you serious? LSO sounds really good. Come off it.

PS: The Planet of Dreams is beautiful!

oknihcap1
04-23-2015, 02:50 AM
Excellent share! Thank you. These may not be the greatest compositions but they're still great to add to my themes collection.

anonymousremains
04-23-2015, 08:01 AM
Fantastic!!!
This is like throwing my curtains open to find 2 suns shining
(in a good way)
: )

WalkingWounded
04-23-2015, 09:07 AM
Thanks for your post, dear hmancini! Roy Budd's music is always welcome.
Best Regards,

oknihcap1
12-16-2016, 04:14 PM
Links are gone for both albums. Does anybody have these still?

frank_black1999
01-17-2019, 12:23 AM
Another request for a re-up--thank you!

Brozza
01-17-2019, 02:51 AM
Same.