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The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Score Discussion Thread




|Music by: Hans Zimmer|Year: 2014|Cues: 54|


“I will cut the light and soon everyone in this city will know how it feels to live in my world.
A world without power. A world without mercy. A world without Spider-Man." ~ Electro


Now that we have the complete cue list, not forgetting some gorgeous artwork, all we need are the cues themselves! This thread is for any info regarding the ASM2 Sessions and also for general discussion about the score - why it's amazing (or not, in some people's opinion), what are people's favourite cues, themes, etc. Just have a general chat really. :)


COMPLETE CUE LIST WITH CREDITS:


(Not chronological order)

SPIDEY LOGO / FLYING
Hans Zimmer

GRADUATION
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

ELECTRO SHOWDOWN PT 1 INTRO
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

ELECTRO SHOWDOWN PT 1
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

ELECTRO SHOWDOWN PT 2 / ELECTRO'S DEATH
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

PETER DISTRACTS OSCORP SECURITY
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

PETER'S ROOM
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

ELECTRO RELEASED
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

PETER VISITS HARRY
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Adam Peters

I CAN'T LOSE YOU TOO
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

I LOVE YOU
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

GWEN
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

I CAN'T GIVE YOU MY BLOOD
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

GOBLIN SHOWDOWN
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

HARRY TRANSFORMATION
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

LOBBY INSERT
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

OXFORD
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

HARRY WANTS SPIDEY'S BLOOD
Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

PETER FINDS CLUE
Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

PLANES / POWER GRID RESTORED
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

SPIDEY SENSE
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

MAX ELECTROCUTED
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Andy Page

ROOSEVELT STATION
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Dave Stewart, Andrew Kawczynski

PETER REMEMBERS
Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski

TRUCK CHASE
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Czarina Russell, Steve Mazzaro

PETER HALLUCINATES PT 1
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

PETER HALLUCINATES PT 2
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

EXTERIOR OSBORN
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

POWER STATION
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Steve Mazzaro

PARENTS ON PLANE
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

HARRY MEETS GWEN
Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

FLYING MONTAGE
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr

HARRY FINDS SECRET FILES
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

SPECIAL PROJECTS
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

ELECTROCUTING SPIDEY PT 1
Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

ELECTROCUTING SPIDEY PT 2
Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

OSCORP SURVEILLANCE / CONSPIRACY
Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

FAREWELL
Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

RHINO RETURNS
Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

HARRY COMES HOME
Hans Zimmer, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

GWEN'S VOICEMAIL
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

THE END CREDIT SUITE
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

THE LOGOS
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

THE OPENING
Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

DR KAFKA EXPERIMENTS
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

ELECTRO IS BORN
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

ELECTRO WANDERS
Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

FUNERAL
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Andrew Kawczynski

HARRY & ELECTRO RETURN TO OSCORP
Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

ITSY BITSY SPIDER THEME (ARRANGEMENT)
Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

MAX
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Ann Marie Simpson, Andrew Kawczynski

MAX GOES TO WORK
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

TIMES SQUARE PT 1
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

TIMES SQUARE PT 2
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Steve Mazzaro

CHRONOLOGICAL CUE LIST WITH SLATES:


LC 1m01 c6v3 0122 v1.00 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 1m01a c3v3 1125 v1.13 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 1m01a c5v5 0106 v3.09 SJL MIX 05-24 St Mix
LC 1m01b c5v4 0104 v2.06 SJL MIX 14-24 St Mix
LC 1m02 c5v5 0106 v23.01 SJL MIX 04-24 St Mix RPT 2
LC 1m03 c5v4 0104 v5.09 SJL MIX 10-24 St Mix WIDE v2
LC 1m04a c5v5 0106 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 1m05 c6v4 0124 v7.01 SJL MIX 05-24 St Mix
LC 1m08 c5v5 0106 v2.04 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m09 c5v3 0102 v1.16 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m10 c6v2pt 0122 v10.08 SJL MIX 09-24 St Mix
LC 2m10 c7v2 0131 v10.09 SJL MIX 13-24 St Mix
LC 2m10 c7v2 0131 v10.13 SJL Mix 15-24 St Mix
LC 2m11 c5v3 0102 v2.02 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 2m12 c5v3 0102 v1.02 SJL MIX 04-24 St Mix
LC 2m12 c7v2 0131 v1.03 AK SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 2m12 c7v2 0131 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m16 c5v3 0102 v1.07 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 2m18 c5v3 0102 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m18 c5v3 0102 v5.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 2m19 c5v3 0102 v1.13 SJL MIX 03-16 Pno NEW PNO
LC 2m20 c5v3 0102 v1.06 SJL MIX 09-24 St Mix
LC 2m20 c7v4 0131 v1.08 AK INS SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m22 c5v3 1220 v2.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 3m23 c3v3 1125 v22 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 3m24 c5v5 0110 v1.04 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 3m26 c5v4 0103 v1.06 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 3m28 c5v4 0103 v1.02 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 3m30 c5v3 1220 v1.08 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 4m31a c5v3 0103 v3.11 SJL MIX 09-24 St Mix
LC 4m31b c5v3 0103 v1.06 SJL MIX 07-24 St Mix
LC 4m31b c6v3 0123 v2.03 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 4m32 c5v3 0103 v2.03 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 4m32 c7v2 0201 v4.00 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 4m37 c5v3 0103 v2.04 SJL MIX 04-24 St Mix
LC 4m39 c5v3 0103 v5.05 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 4m40 c5v3 0103 v1.03 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 4m41 c5v3 0103 v1.09 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 5m41c c5v4 0105 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 5m42 c6v2 0116 v2.03 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 5m42a c7v3 0203 v3.00 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 5m44 c3v6 1126 v6.01 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 5m44 c5v4 0105 v9.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 5m45 c6 0113 v2.14 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 5m45a c6v2 0116 v4.00 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 6m46 c5v4 0106 v3.04 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 6m46 c7v3 0203 v4.07 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 6m46 c7v3 0203 v4.07 Alt SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 6m47 c5v4 0106 v2.01 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 6m47a c6v3 0123 v2.01 SJL MIX 04-24 St Mix
LC 6m48 c5v4 0106 v2.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 6m50 c6 0113 v1.01 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 6m51 c6v3 0123 v2.16 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 6m51 c7v3 0203 v3.03 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 6m52 c7 0203 v6.03 SJL MIX 10-24 St Mix
LC 6m53_54 c5v4 0106 v1.12 SJL MIX 05-24 St Mix
LC 7m55 c7v2 0201 v2.06 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 7m56 c6 0117 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 7m57 c7v2 0204 v2.06 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 7m58a c7v2 0204 v1.04 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 7m59 c6v4 0125 v4.05 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 7m60 c6 0117 v1.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 7m60 c6 0117 v1.00 ALT SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 7m61 c6v4 0125 v4.05 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 7m61 c6v4 0125 v5.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 7m61 c6v4 0125 v6.02 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 8m62 c7v4 0201 v1.05 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 8m63 c7v4 0201 v5.07 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix


I have to say, personally, I think this score is just as amazing Horner's ASM, but just in a different way. From the very first notes, the opening cue immediately immersed me in the film. That theme is superb. I can't wait to get the film version. Zimmer's Spidey theme is equally awesome, and I absolutely love its appearance in "Truck Chase". Much though I don't really like dubstep, or any electric stuff for that matter, Electro's theme is perfect. "My Enemy" on the official soundtrack is much more listenable-to having seen the film, now that I know what's going on on screen. The love theme/Gwen's theme is simply beautiful (what more can I say?). And although a lot of people don't seem to like Gobin's material, I think it's brilliant. His theme is very suitably creepy, and "Goblin Showdown" is incredibly exciting and intense. Just like the scene in the film. I could go on for hours about this score, but I'll leave it open for your opinions and thoughts.

Sulley

CAN I HAVE THE LINK PLEASE THANKS

CAN I HAVE THE LINK PLEASE THANKS

Well, unless that unexpected happens, this is simply a "discussion thread" . . .

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Did you read the thread title? Or anything else?

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People are so DUMB

I have to say that I love this score, alot. Aside from the obvious standout themes (Spidey's, the Electro theme) I find myself really going back to Harry's Suite. Something about it is entrancing.

That being said, I am a little disappointed that the album seemed to be missing a few things, in particular the OSCORP motif and a few variations of the "family" theme.

Sweet Can't Wait for the Release of this awesome Score!!!!

CAN I HAVE THE LINK PLEASE THANKS

Wow... You're stupid!

I have to say that I love this score, alot. Aside from the obvious standout themes (Spidey's, the Electro theme) I find myself really going back to Harry's Suite. Something about it is entrancing.

That being said, I am a little disappointed that the album seemed to be missing a few things, in particular the OSCORP motif and a few variations of the "family" theme.

I was very disappointed with the commercial release, even the deluxe edition. But I was very happy to see that "Truck Chase" had been included on Disc 2, and hadn't been tampered with in any way!

MAY ME HAVE THESE LINK THANKS PLEASE LOL

Isn't this in the wrong forum? ;)

I was very disappointed with the commercial release, even the deluxe edition. But I was very happy to see that "Truck Chase" had been included on Disc 2, and hadn't been tampered with in any way!

Agreed! Especially for a Zimmer release, it's pretty rare. I'm still holding out for "Escape From Ship".

Well, it's a start!

This has to be my most anticipated complete score of all time. SO MUCH GOOD STUFF.

I'm personally hyped for the "patrol" montage near the beginning, Harry and Max teaming up, and the last Electro fight. How 'bout you guys?

This has to be my most anticipated complete score of all time.



I couldn't resist. My bad.

:parrot: I really want the score now lol (I'll be patient for a while) but if it releases soon, it'll be a great Christmas gift ;)

Well, it's a start!

This has to be my most anticipated complete score of all time. SO MUCH GOOD STUFF.

I'm personally hyped for the "patrol" montage near the beginning, Harry and Max teaming up, and the last Electro fight. How 'bout you guys?

Nah... Zimmer produces nothing but loud noise and meandering soundscapes....... his so called music is absolute shite of the highest order

you want to listen to a great Spider-Man score.... go seek out Chris Youngs Spidery 3 or James Horner�s TASM1 score at least that score has original themes and not just rip off Aaron Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man which Zimmer did .... once you educate yourself and listen to good music you will find that there�s nothing behind Hans Zimmer than hype and Fanboys .... he�s is as unoriginal as they come

I can imagine what it must have been like in his RCP offices when he tried to come up for a theme for spidey....
Hans..... I need a theme for Spidey
Clones..... Hans you are a god among mere mortals we are not worthy
Hans..... I know but how can I come up with a theme unlike Horner�s lazy effort... you know I can�t compete with that....
Clones.... But Hans you are the second coming..... you�ve convinced everyone in Hollywood and all the little kiddies that Orchestral music is bad and that Orchestral music is for the Common Man
Hans.... Common Man you say.... like Spidey.... oh and I�ll be able to use that in all the EPK�s
Clones.... Yes
Hans..... I got it.... I�ll steal Aaron Copland�s A Fanfare for the Common Man, Sure my fanboys don�t listen to shite like that and I�ll make it ultra cool and I�ll convince them I�ve created a new style of music ....oh and I�ll need a Gimmick like the drums in MOS...... oh oh oh I got it..... what do the kiddies like today..... ah yes, I�ll add Dubstep.... yeah Fuckin Dubstep
Clones..... Oh Hans.... we are not worthy

Nah... Zimmer produces nothing but loud noise and meandering soundscapes....... his so called music is absolute shite of the highest order

And here we go again! Get a life dude! Your taste in music isn't better than anyone else's. It just seems that way to you;)

Can someone upload this in FLAC??

Nah... Zimmer produces nothing but loud noise and meandering soundscapes....... his so called music is absolute shite of the highest order

Have you nothing better to do with yourself than to enter threads for music you don't like? Why badger those with different tastes?

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Can someone upload this in FLAC??

No one has it.

Nah... Zimmer produces nothing but loud noise and meandering soundscapes....... his so called music is absolute shite of the highest order

You suck, douche bag.

CAN I HAVE THE LINK PLEASE THANKS

You know, people have been calling this guy dumb, but I think he's just courageous (as his username suggests). After all, you have to be pretty courageous to show off your stupidity so bluntly like this. It's actually kind of inspiring how courageous this guy is.

Anyway... I really liked the score per se, but I can't help but feel that it didn't quite fit in with the film, especially the more dubstep-py bits.

Maybe someone will share the score with us for Christmas...

Nah... Zimmer produces nothing but loud noise and meandering soundscapes....... his so called music is absolute shite of the highest order

you want to listen to a great Spider-Man score.... go seek out Chris Youngs Spidery 3 or James Horner�s TASM1 score at least that score has original themes and not just rip off Aaron Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man which Zimmer did .... once you educate yourself and listen to good music you will find that there�s nothing behind Hans Zimmer than hype and Fanboys .... he�s is as unoriginal as they come

I can imagine what it must have been like in his RCP offices when he tried to come up for a theme for spidey....
Hans..... I need a theme for Spidey
Clones..... Hans you are a god among mere mortals we are not worthy
Hans..... I know but how can I come up with a theme unlike Horner�s lazy effort... you know I can�t compete with that....
Clones.... But Hans you are the second coming..... you�ve convinced everyone in Hollywood and all the little kiddies that Orchestral music is bad and that Orchestral music is for the Common Man
Hans.... Common Man you say.... like Spidey.... oh and I�ll be able to use that in all the EPK�s
Clones.... Yes
Hans..... I got it.... I�ll steal Aaron Copland�s A Fanfare for the Common Man, Sure my fanboys don�t listen to shite like that and I�ll make it ultra cool and I�ll convince them I�ve created a new style of music ....oh and I�ll need a Gimmick like the drums in MOS...... oh oh oh I got it..... what do the kiddies like today..... ah yes, I�ll add Dubstep.... yeah Fuckin Dubstep
Clones..... Oh Hans.... we are not worthy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr6CnG5dmvM

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You suck, douche bag.

Sticks and Stones.... you ain�t getting me banned again Kid.......


Uploading TASM 2 in Chrono order also MOS

Can someone upload this in FLAC??

AMAZING (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)

You know, people have been calling this guy dumb, but I think he's just courageous (as his username suggests). After all, you have to be pretty courageous to show off your stupidity so bluntly like this.

Either that or he really is dumb

Either that or he really is dumb

Or amazingly droll.

You suck, douche bag.

Oh please.

People love to shit all over other composers here, and no one bats an eye - especially when it comes to making Zimmer sound as though he is better than everyone else. Most of Zimmer's more unreasonable fans cannot do anything more than tear others down to bring Zimmer up.

THEY suck, THEY are douchebags.

I don't have much of an opinion on Zimmer really, most of what I've ever had to say involves how fans perceive him and his music more than anything else. I don't enjoy much of his music but when I do, I make a point of saying that.

I guaran-fucking-tee I'm considered to be all kinds of asshole (hell in one Interstellar thread I was accused of "Starting a flame war", whatever the fuck that means) all because I was making comments about the hyperbole that comes out...that's pathetic. These are DISCUSSION boards and if someone has a different opinion in a discussion, DISCUSS IT! Don't just write them off because they don't share it.

Someone like Rocklegend doesn't like Zimmer and is always mentioning it...someone else is always praising him like some all-encompassing God figure....neither one is right, neither is more valid than the other. Some people are 'trolls', some people are overly sensitive. In the end is CHANGES NOTHING.

You will still love the music, he will still hate it. Neither of you can take that away from each other.


I think what Zimmer does to the sound of an orchestra, by processing it electronically, makes it sound incredibly cheesy and it's a big reason I'm not into his action music...well FUCK YOU JHFAN! GO SUCK HORNER'S DICK WHICH HE PROBABLY RIPPED OFF OF SOMEONE ELSE AND PASSED HIS COCK OFF AS HIS OWN YOU LAZY THIEVING BASTARD!


Fuck me indeed. :)

(P.S. speaking of that hack known as James Horner, he and Zimmer have always been friends and he finds Zimmer's music very big, impressive and even spectacular. He just doesn't find - for him personally - that big exciting music having an emotional depth. Fuck Horner for saying that! Fuck him up his stupid ass and fuck me for agreeing with him because I don't find Zimmer's big music emotional either...adrenaline-inducing, but not something I have an emotional connection to with some exceptions.)

Before ASM2 hit the screens Sony was preparing to build a cinematic world, similar to Marvel's, on the back of their expectations that ASM2 would be their Avengers: they were talking about a Sinister Six, Carnage and Venom film. Then Sony woke up, saw the returns and reviews and promptly chewed off their own arm to escape. (ASM2 wasn't a dud, but it sure wasn't the stud they'd hoped for. More Mike Myers than Magic Mike.)

And if rumors are correct about the studio meddling with the script that originally was much darker and far less stupid - (e.g. Richard Parker builds a secret lab in the NYC subway line in a rail car that descended into the foundation. Methinks Sony did some of Walter White's blue crystal meth and crossed Bruce Wayne with Walt to get that gem of an idea.) - then Sony only has to look into the mirror to find the guilty party responsible for the film's less than stellar success.

I wonder how long it will take for Sony to do another Spider-Man reboot off their previous reboot?

The first film had the whole "untold story of Peter Parker's Origin" ripped out and attached to this sequel. If there wasn't so much interference by the men and women writing the checks, both films probably would have turned out quite differently, and probably far better all around.

Sony has been handling Spidey very poorly as of late. Reactions to the reboot were so-so, and I think ASM2 torpedoed any chances for this franchise to have solid success anymore. Sony has worked itself into a corner with all this.

Lately there have been insane rumors about the franchise, ranging from a movie about the women in Spidey's lives to a movie about Aunt May. They're all false, of course, but the rumors are somewhat believable because Sony has shown that they're certainly capable of making such bad decisions with the franchise.

ASM2 wasn't a bad movie. But the trailers gave away too much, and I'm sure it did not meet many people's expectations.

Part of this supposed hack orchestrated by North Korea revealed that Sony has far too much invested in Spider-Man, and that they don't have the same franchises other studios have.

Sony Pictures hack reveals internal discussion about Spider-Man - Spider-Man News (http://spidermannews.com/2014/12/04/sony-pictures-hack-reveals-internal-discussion-spider-man/)

And I quote:


Why are some studios making Hunger Games, Harry Potter, Twilight – and we are considering movies like Moneyball, Steve Jobs story, Captain Phillips Story, Evel Knievel story, etc. Are you aware that SPE only has 1 franchise – Spiderman. Yet, it took 5 years to generate a sequel? Spidey 3 was released in summer 2007, #4 in 2012. Don’t harry potters come out over 2-3 years? Are you aware that SPE has only 1 franchise – Spidey? Yet we waited 5 years after Spidey 3 (2007) to release #4? Have you read the SEC annual report? Disney will make $300M on Spidey merchandise this year alone. We won’t!

Now, this is from 2012, when the first film (or technically number 4) came out.

It's funny that Sony didn't had faith on Captain Phillips, and ended up being one of the best reviewed films of 2013. Also, they seemed to complain about lack of original stories mentioning Harry Potter, The Hunger Games, which were franchises based on popular books.

FOR THE GUY HATIN' ON ZIMMER:

W/e dude ! Haters gonna hate ! I love TDKR Trilogy, Lion King, and TASM2 score !! MOS is badass and dark !! I couldn't care what you think of Zimmer !! Zimmer is a legend !!

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FOR THE GUY HATIN' ON ZIMMER:

W/e dude ! Haters gonna hate ! I love TDKR Trilogy, Lion King, and TASM2 score !! MOS is badass and dark !! I couldn't care what you think of Zimmer !! Zimmer is a legend !!


Jesus Christ Fanboys ...................... ;)

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Hello,

Some of you have probably come across this on YouTube, but I'm gonna give a try here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVFppe-pNM

I guess this is the track (it's my presumption after seeing few discussions here and on hans-zimmer.com) that most of the TASM2 soundtrack fans are crazy about. My question would be: if there's a chance to modify this track with removing the remaining SFX anyhow? I know that the uploader of this vid had said that he did everything he could, but let's say I'm a bit dumb in these things and I just wanna check if that's all we can get (while waiting... for the actual leak).

Anyways, I'm glad that James P. Sullivan has created this thread and just to add my humble opinion about the soundtrack: I honestly was surprised, because I was not expecting something like that from Zimmer (I'm talking about the drama part - Peter & Gwen, etc.). The action part was absolutely OK. And I don't see the reason to hate all the ''dubstep'' portraying Electro, etc. I think it fits nicely. I see much of the hate people throw at this work, but you can crucify me for what I will say - personally, this is my favourite Zimmer score so far (nope, it's not Interstellar). Trust me, I've been a fan of his for many years, but things change and some music just starts to feel ''over-listened''. This was something fresh, especially after the TDK trilogy. And I loved the movie itself as well. It was fun, it was sad - it was awesome. I had a really great time, seeing it at the cinema. And I hate to confess this, but I cried like a little bitch when... well, you know. And this was the second time that any movie has brought me to tears - big thanks to the music.

And you know, all that Zimmer ''I like vs I hate'' discussion is just useless in my opinion, because I think we can all agree - it's just ''I like'' and ''I don't like'' - a question of taste in music. Oh, and I just finished reading what JHFan said, concerning this particular thing and I can do nothing but agree in 100%.

Oh, and one more thing to add (to JHFan): for me TASM was one of the most beautiful ''classical'' (as some people like to describe) scores I've heard in recent years. ;)

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The truth has been spoken :)

you do know that piece is on the OST and it was composed by Pharell Williams not Zimmer ;)

I eagerly await the complete ASM2 score as well. It's definitely my my favorite Zimmer score of 2014. I'm looking forward to the Final Electro Fight and The Rest of My Life (I really want those female vocals).

You do know that piece is on the OST...
Not the film version, so technically it is NOT on the OST, at least what abryus1337 is searching for.

and it was composed by Pharrell Williams not Zimmer ;)
19. The Rest Of My Life (2:28)
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Andrew Kawczynski, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger

That was taken directly from Hans-Zimmer.com and I know damn sure that Hybrid Soldiers knows what he's talking about. And funny, I see Zimmer's name on this cue.

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Oh and chronological order..

The Logos
The Opening
Parents on Plane
Spidey Logo / Flying
Truck Chase
Peter Hallucinates, Pt. 1
Graduation
Peter Hallucinates, Pt. 2
I Can't Lose You Too
Flying Montage
Peter's Room
Peter Remembers
Max
Max Goes to Work
Harry Comes Home
Max Electrocuted
Peter Visits Harry
Oscorp Surveillance / Conspiracy
Electro is Born
Electro Wanders
Oxford
Spidey Sense
Times Square, Pt. 1
Times Square, Pt. 2
Gwen
Harry Finds Secret Files
Harry Wants Spidey's Blood
Peter Distracts Oscorp Security
Harry Meets Gwen
Dr. Kafka Experiments
You're My Boy
I Can't Give You My Blood
Lobby Insert
Farewell
Peter Finds Clue
Special Projects
Roosevelt Station
Electro Released
Gwen's Voicemail
Harry & Electro Return to Oscorp
Harry Transformation
I Love You
Power Station
Electro Showdown, Pt. 1 Intro
Electro Showdown, Pt. 1
Electrocuting Spidey, Pt. 1
Electrocuting Spidey, Pt. 2
Itsy Bitsy Spider Theme (Arrangement)
Electro's Showdown, Pt. 2 / Electro's Death
Planes / Power Grid Restored
Goblin Showdown
Funeral
Exterior Osborn
Rhino Returns
The End Credit Suite

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I think he is actually in contact with zimmer himself lol.

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FOR THE GUY HATIN' ON ZIMMER:

W/e dude ! Haters gonna hate ! I love TDKR Trilogy, Lion King, and TASM2 score !! MOS is badass and dark !! I couldn't care what you think of Zimmer !! Zimmer is a legend !!

so what!
I'm great fan of H.Z. myself, but this score is cheesy; I like MJ moves, but some of his games were disastrous; I like my mom's cuisine but from time to time she spoils the soup; etc... Like James Newton Howard once said: "You couldn't satisfy everyone all the time. It's part of the job..."

Some of you have probably come across this on YouTube, but I'm gonna give a try here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVFppe-pNM

I guess this is the track (it's my presumption after seeing few discussions here and on hans-zimmer.com) that most of the TASM2 soundtrack fans are crazy about. My question would be: if there's a chance to modify this track with removing the remaining SFX anyhow? I know that the uploader of this vid had said that he did everything he could, but let's say I'm a bit dumb in these things and I just wanna check if that's all we can get (while waiting... for the actual leak).

I knew it was gonna be The Rest of My Life you were linking to. The film mix really is amazing, it's a shame they decided to add the vocals last minute after pressing the OST.

Before the Blu-ray was even released, I downloaded a 1080p rip and imported it onto Audition. I wanted to see if that part of the audio track was isloated and if I could extract it, but the leaves and wind SFX are on the same track, so there's no way of getting it 100% clean.

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not so long ago i realized that the choir we hear in " no place like home " is the same than the one in the cue from armageddon "astronauts"

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Not the film version, so technically it is NOT on the OST, at least what abryus1337 is searching for.

19. The Rest Of My Life (2:28)
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Andrew Kawczynski, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger

That was taken directly from Hans-Zimmer.com and I know damn sure that Hybrid Soldiers knows what he's talking about. And funny, I see Zimmer's name on this cue.

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Oh and chronological order..

The Logos
The Opening
Parents on Plane
Spidey Logo / Flying
Truck Chase
Peter Hallucinates, Pt. 1
Graduation
Peter Hallucinates, Pt. 2
I Can't Lose You Too
Flying Montage
Peter's Room
Peter Remembers
Max
Max Goes to Work
Harry Comes Home
Max Electrocuted
Peter Visits Harry
Oscorp Surveillance / Conspiracy
Electro is Born
Electro Wanders
Oxford
Spidey Sense
Times Square, Pt. 1
Times Square, Pt. 2
Gwen
Harry Finds Secret Files
Harry Wants Spidey's Blood
Peter Distracts Oscorp Security
Harry Meets Gwen
Dr. Kafka Experiments
You're My Boy
I Can't Give You My Blood
Lobby Insert
Farewell
Peter Finds Clue
Special Projects
Roosevelt Station
Electro Released
Gwen's Voicemail
Harry & Electro Return to Oscorp
Harry Transformation
I Love You
Power Station
Electro Showdown, Pt. 1 Intro
Electro Showdown, Pt. 1
Electrocuting Spidey, Pt. 1
Electrocuting Spidey, Pt. 2
Itsy Bitsy Spider Theme (Arrangement)
Electro's Showdown, Pt. 2 / Electro's Death
Planes / Power Grid Restored
Goblin Showdown
Funeral
Exterior Osborn
Rhino Returns
The End Credit Suite

Ah yes I forgot about the film version......

And the No Place Like Home...... yes that was written by Pharell Williams.... those were chords which Pharrell Williams had when he played them to Zimmer during the Jamming sessions ;) .... Zimmer even states this in interviews when talking about the score.... Zimmer acknowledges that alot of the score was derived from the songs written by the band the Magnificent Six and were adapted into the score.... The songs are fuckin great by the way.... Love em

And the No Place Like Home...... yes that was written by Pharell Williams.... those were chords which Pharrell Williams had when he played them to Zimmer during the Jamming sessions ;) .... Zimmer even states this in interviews when talking about the score.... Zimmer acknowledges that alot of the score was derived from the songs written by the band the Magnificent Six and were adapted into the score

You seem to have quite the encyclopedia on this score for someone who absolutely cannot stand Zimmer or his music. Interesting.


The songs are fuckin great by the way.... Love em

Does not compute

Isn't this in the wrong forum? ;)

Maybe.

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Agreed! Especially for a Zimmer release, it's pretty rare. I'm still holding out for "Escape From Ship".

What's "Escape From Ship"? It's not ASM2... is it?

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Well, it's a start!

This has to be my most anticipated complete score of all time. SO MUCH GOOD STUFF.

I'm personally hyped for the "patrol" montage near the beginning, Harry and Max teaming up, and the last Electro fight. How 'bout you guys?

Totally agreed. Definitely one of my most anticipated sessions ever. There's so much good material missing!

Maybe.What's "Escape From Ship"? It's not ASM2... is it?

No, MoS. Apparently it's the Imperfect Lock of MoS. I don't understand why it's such an amazing cue. But then again, I've seen the film 3 or 4 times and don't know it too well so maybe I'm missing something.

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And I quote:

Why are some studios making Hunger Games, Harry Potter, Twilight – and we are considering movies like Moneyball, Steve Jobs story, Captain Phillips Story, Evel Knievel story, etc. Are you aware that SPE only has 1 franchise – Spiderman. Yet, it took 5 years to generate a sequel? Spidey 3 was released in summer 2007, #4 in 2012. Don’t harry potters come out over 2-3 years? Are you aware that SPE has only 1 franchise – Spidey? Yet we waited 5 years after Spidey 3 (2007) to release #4? Have you read the SEC annual report? Disney will make $300M on Spidey merchandise this year alone. We won’t!

Now, this is from 2012, when the first film (or technically number 4) came out.

Is this basically an implied confirmation that Sony was shameless enough to try and set up a reboot in the timeframe it takes to make a sequelinstead??? They do know those are totally different concepts? Jesus... I can't tell if this is pure desperation or sheer stupidity, really. Sony reeks of desperation at this point, and that's been known for quite a while. They could've released TASM 8 months after Spider-Man 3 and it wouldn't have made a difference. I thought WB were hacks for ruining DC films for decades, but Sony takes the cake this time.

BTW... when I logged in and saw this thread on the main page, my heart almost skip a beat as I read "The Amazing Spider..."; but when I clicked it and read the full name, the lyrics of "My Enemy" came to my mind:

<<You liied to meee!!!>> xDD

Hopefully this'll arrive soon. Scorepranos' sporadic return and a few other leaks have ignited my suspicion that something big is coming down this Christmas/New Year. I hope I'm not wrong D:

Nah... Zimmer produces nothing but loud noise and meandering soundscapes....... his so called music is absolute shite of the highest order

you want to listen to a great Spider-Man score.... go seek out Chris Youngs Spidery 3 or James Horner�s TASM1 score at least that score has original themes and not just rip off Aaron Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man which Zimmer did .... once you educate yourself and listen to good music you will find that there�s nothing behind Hans Zimmer than hype and Fanboys .... he�s is as unoriginal as they come

I can imagine what it must have been like in his RCP offices when he tried to come up for a theme for spidey....
Hans..... I need a theme for Spidey
Clones..... Hans you are a god among mere mortals we are not worthy
Hans..... I know but how can I come up with a theme unlike Horner�s lazy effort... you know I can�t compete with that....
Clones.... But Hans you are the second coming..... you�ve convinced everyone in Hollywood and all the little kiddies that Orchestral music is bad and that Orchestral music is for the Common Man
Hans.... Common Man you say.... like Spidey.... oh and I�ll be able to use that in all the EPK�s
Clones.... Yes
Hans..... I got it.... I�ll steal Aaron Copland�s A Fanfare for the Common Man, Sure my fanboys don�t listen to shite like that and I�ll make it ultra cool and I�ll convince them I�ve created a new style of music ....oh and I�ll need a Gimmick like the drums in MOS...... oh oh oh I got it..... what do the kiddies like today..... ah yes, I�ll add Dubstep.... yeah Fuckin Dubstep
Clones..... Oh Hans.... we are not worthy

Guys... :D It's really fun to read these, but maybe we should all stop (including me). Let's respect the creator of the thread. ;)

Hey, I' not being a bitchy fanboy. People can shit on Zimmer all they want, I don't care. Still doesn't change the way I feel about the man's music

Hey, I' not being a bitchy fanboy. People can shit on Zimmer all they want, I don't care. Still doesn't change the way I feel about the man's music

EXACTLY.

Hence my own sense of self-deprecation earlier. :)

EXACTLY.

Hence my own sense of self-deprecation earlier. :)

I know you're not too fond of him (TDK Trilogy aside), and I don't give a fuck. That's what you do or don't like. A friend of mine doesn't like soda or chocolate. Sounds like a sin, but whatever. I'm not getting my pants in a bunch over it. Everyone is different.

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Nah... Zimmer produces nothing but loud noise and meandering soundscapes....... his so called music is absolute shite of the highest order

you want to listen to a great Spider-Man score.... go seek out Chris Youngs Spidery 3 or James Horner�s TASM1 score at least that score has original themes and not just rip off Aaron Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man which Zimmer did .... once you educate yourself and listen to good music you will find that there�s nothing behind Hans Zimmer than hype and Fanboys .... he�s is as unoriginal as they come

I can imagine what it must have been like in his RCP offices when he tried to come up for a theme for spidey....
Hans..... I need a theme for Spidey
Clones..... Hans you are a god among mere mortals we are not worthy
Hans..... I know but how can I come up with a theme unlike Horner�s lazy effort... you know I can�t compete with that....
Clones.... But Hans you are the second coming..... you�ve convinced everyone in Hollywood and all the little kiddies that Orchestral music is bad and that Orchestral music is for the Common Man
Hans.... Common Man you say.... like Spidey.... oh and I�ll be able to use that in all the EPK�s
Clones.... Yes
Hans..... I got it.... I�ll steal Aaron Copland�s A Fanfare for the Common Man, Sure my fanboys don�t listen to shite like that and I�ll make it ultra cool and I�ll convince them I�ve created a new style of music ....oh and I�ll need a Gimmick like the drums in MOS...... oh oh oh I got it..... what do the kiddies like today..... ah yes, I�ll add Dubstep.... yeah Fuckin Dubstep
Clones..... Oh Hans.... we are not worthy

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Seriously, though, I was brought up absolutely immersed in classical music and am very well educated in it, though I say so myself. I am a violinist, and also play guitar and a little piano. I know Copland very well, and yes, you could say Zimmer's Spidey fanfare is similar, but then so is any trumpet fanfare of that sort.

To state that ASM2 (and any other Zimmer score) has no original themes is uneducated. But don't worry - once you educate yourself and actually listen to some Zimmer with an open mind, you find there's plenty of reason behind the hype. He may not be as original as say, Schoenberg, or someone like that, but actually his music is a heck of a lot better than a lot of other composers out there. And he has countless original themes. Beautiful, incredible, inspiring, original themes.

But thanks for sharing your opinions. I guess that's what this thread is about. :)

No, MoS. Apparently it's the Imperfect Lock of MoS. I don't understand why it's such an amazing cue. But then again, I've seen the film 3 or 4 times and don't know it too well so maybe I'm missing something.



Agreed. I read about that on HZ.com, "Escaping The Ship" was written by Andrew Kawczynski or Steve Mazzaro, so it's not that great! Saving Loise is better.

You know, people have been calling this guy dumb, but I think he's just courageous (as his username suggests). After all, you have to be pretty courageous to show off your stupidity so bluntly like this. It's actually kind of inspiring how courageous this guy is.

Anyway... I really liked the score per se, but I can't help but feel that it didn't quite fit in with the film, especially the more dubstep-py bits.

Maybe someone will share the score with us for Christmas...

I have to disagree with you on one point - I thought it fitted the film spot on!

Everything else you said - agreed. :)

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Can someone upload this in FLAC??

I'm gonna put this as politely as possible - please acquire a pair of glasses.

This has to be from the 2010 Academy Awards when Giacchino (center, with his Oscar) won for Up. I see Beltrami and Zimmer to his left, but who are the two to his right? Is that Horner on the end?

I can't think. Zimmer was up for SH, Giacchino up for Up, Horner up for Avatar, Beltrami up for The Hurt Locker, and I can't remember the 5th...

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I know you're not too fond of him (TDK Trilogy aside), and I don't give a fuck. That's what you do or don't like. A friend of mine doesn't like soda or chocolate. Sounds like a sin, but whatever. I'm not getting my pants in a bunch over it. Everyone is different.

And really, it's more to do with not being able to really enjoy something when the end result sounds off to me. Take "The Battle" and "Barbarian Horde" from GLADIATOR. It has that quasi-swashbuckling adventure theme on brass, and it's a great theme....but it sounds so artificial. The demo for "The Battle" sounds almost the same. Nowadays Zimmer probably wouldn't process the brass to that extent. It's not so much about themes or ideas, just the end result doesn't sound good to my ears. That's why I favored "The Dark Knight" over "Batman Begins", because it had similar music but the performance wasn't altered to that extent as the first score was. It was more organic, more acoustic. I like electronics, they don't bother me at all. I guess it's all in the application.

And I love love LOVE CRIMSON TIDE as well. The enhancements done to the orchestra work well in that score.

P.S.

Yes, that is James Horner in the blue Avatar-inspired bow tie. I think it might be Buck Sanders, Beltrami's co-composer on "Hurt Locker" next to him.

And yes, I just made that meme. :)

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OK, here's my suggestion:

1) James P. Sullivan created this thread to talk about TASM2, TASM2 & TASM2. TASM was awesome and so on, but once again, can we respect the creator of the thread.

2) Can we (asking once again) avoid the ''Zimmer love/hate'' discussion? Because OBVIOUSLY this thread is dedicated for the discussion about the score itself (tracks, themes and other things, concerning the music itself).

3) Since it is the TASM2 thread and the Zimmer is the main guy in this one, wouldn't it be polite to avoid all the critique which comes basically from the personal feelings (aka: dislikes?)

In scores we trust. Peace.

1) Discussion of the first score is inevitable.

2) if we are to follow your suggestion that this indeed a DISCUSSION thread, then that warrants for and against type opinions. It's called discussion, not a "TASM 2 PRAISE" thread.

3) See number 2.

P.S. I've gone on record as having liked the score to this film.

Part of this supposed hack orchestrated by North Korea revealed that Sony has far too much invested in Spider-Man, and that they don't have the same franchises other studios have.

Sony Pictures hack reveals internal discussion about Spider-Man - Spider-Man News (http://spidermannews.com/2014/12/04/sony-pictures-hack-reveals-internal-discussion-spider-man/)

And I quote: Why are some studios making Hunger Games, Harry Potter, Twilight � and we are considering movies like Moneyball, Steve Jobs story, Captain Phillips Story, Evel Knievel story, etc. Are you aware that SPE only has 1 franchise � Spiderman. Yet, it took 5 years to generate a sequel? Spidey 3 was released in summer 2007, #4 in 2012. Don�t harry potters come out over 2-3 years? Are you aware that SPE has only 1 franchise � Spidey? Yet we waited 5 years after Spidey 3 (2007) to release #4? Have you read the SEC annual report? Disney will make $300M on Spidey merchandise this year alone. We won�t!


Now, this is from 2012, when the first film (or technically number 4) came out.
There's a story that's goes back to Hollywood's Golden Age, 1910s through the early 1930s and the founding of the Oscars. Its official and rather long title is "The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences." When Charlie Chaplin, one of Hollywood's first superstars learned of its formation, he said, as the story goes, "What art? What science?"

Hollywood is a business to make money, as the above memo reveals, and if any movie comes out that has artistic merit, its probably by accident or by miracle. Those movies the memo references are good films but they didn't set the box office alight. Franchises and sequels and their merchandise are where studios make their money.

But the reason why Marvel knows how to run a superhero franchise and Sony knows how to run it into the ground comes down to this: if it ain't on the page, it ain't on the stage. [/B]

Marvel understands writing, its what they do and its where their empire starts. You have to know what makes a story interesting and how to create compelling characters. Just stringing a bunch of scenes together and throwing in some cool one liners does not make a script or dialogue.

An answer to all you guys asking "LINK PLEASE". Here you go. Enjoy ;)



Just so many people are aware, those titles were pulled from ASCAP and BMI databases. it doesn't mean a leak is due out, but it might make it easier for 'the right people' to find it.

Here�s the Link to TAMS 2 Chrono Order.... that I did a while ago

https://mega.co.nz/#F!105QUJZQ!oEmQSvMIIjWB4mkXiNkLbw

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Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Seriously, though, I was brought up absolutely immersed in classical music and am very well educated in it, though I say so myself. I am a violinist, and also play guitar and a little piano. I know Copland very well, and yes, you could say Zimmer's Spidey fanfare is similar, but then so is any trumpet fanfare of that sort.

To state that ASM2 (and any other Zimmer score) has no original themes is uneducated. But don't worry - once you educate yourself and actually listen to some Zimmer with an open mind, you find there's plenty of reason behind the hype. He may not be as original as say, Schoenberg, or someone like that, but actually his music is a heck of a lot better than a lot of other composers out there. And he has countless original themes. Beautiful, incredible, inspiring, original themes.

But thanks for sharing your opinions. I guess that's what this thread is about. :)


I have 40 plus years playing,composing, arranging,editing music .... I�m well versed..... ;)

And Zimmer�s Spidey theme is note for note that same... also his Battle Music for Gladiator is note for note the same as Holst�s planets

There's a story that's goes back to Hollywood's Golden Age, 1910s through the early 1930s and the founding of the Oscars. Its official and rather long title is "The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences." When Charlie Chaplin, one of Hollywood's first superstars learned of its formation, he said, as the story goes, "What art? What science?"

Hollywood is a business to make money, as the above memo reveals, and if any movie comes out that has artistic merit, its probably by accident or by miracle. Those movies the memo references are good films but they didn't set the box office alight. Franchises and sequels and their merchandise are where studios make their money.

But the reason why Marvel knows how to run a superhero franchise and Sony knows how to run it into the ground comes down to this: if it ain't on the page, it ain't on the stage. [/B]

Marvel understands writing, its what they do and its where their empire starts. You have to know what makes a story interesting and how to create compelling characters. Just stringing a bunch of scenes together and throwing in some cool one liners does not make a script or dialogue.

You're absolutely right.

There were so many 80s action movies that went by based on that very principle you closed with, and it's entirely true. I guess for those older movies it worked because at least the actors involved and the stunts pulled were charismatic and creative, and likely of the moment. Now it's all done by committee and that committee hasn't learned anything. Shame. Marvel might be a committee-based business but at least it's made up of some genuinely creative minds who want to put the best stories they can out there, and they truly respect their characters and the fans who enjoy them.

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OK, you are right. I'm sorry.

I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just saying that discussion implies that people can offer their thoughts, positive or otherwise. As long as it's constructive and people can actually say WHY they like, love, dislike or hate something beyond the 'it sucks because...well it just does' and actually bring about thoughtful reasoning, there's nothing wrong with saying what you feel, good or bad.

You're absolutely right.

There were so many 80s action movies that went by based on that very principle you closed with, and it's entirely true. I guess for those older movies it worked because at least the actors involved and the stunts pulled were charismatic and creative, and likely of the moment. Now it's all done by committee and that committee hasn't learned anything. Shame. Marvel might be a committee-based business but at least it's made up of some genuinely creative minds who want to put the best stories they can out there, and they truly respect their characters and the fans who enjoy them.


Studios are made up of Hedge Fund managers.... investors and probably bankers.... the creative people, the people who gave talent a chance are all but gone......why do you think hacks like Snyder and Zimmer keep getting work.... it�s because they are nothing more than Yes men to the studios and have Rabid fanboys ...... The days of Alan Ladd jnr and their ilk have long gone...... in this day and age a film like Star Wars or Alien would never be or get made..... now it�s all Zero risk and that�s why franchises and comicbook,novels are getting made.... that�s why release dates are announced before scripts and directors.... target fanboys and you�re guaranteed the money... a case in point.... Man Of Steel.... Disaster..... sideline him for WB�s cashcow.... Batman

Hello,

Some of you have probably come across this on YouTube, but I'm gonna give a try here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVFppe-pNM

I guess this is the track (it's my presumption after seeing few discussions here and on hans-zimmer.com) that most of the TASM2 soundtrack fans are crazy about. My question would be: if there's a chance to modify this track with removing the remaining SFX anyhow? I know that the uploader of this vid had said that he did everything he could, but let's say I'm a bit dumb in these things and I just wanna check if that's all we can get (while waiting... for the actual leak).

Anyways, I'm glad that James P. Sullivan has created this thread and just to add my humble opinion about the soundtrack: I honestly was surprised, because I was not expecting something like that from Zimmer (I'm talking about the drama part - Peter & Gwen, etc.). The action part was absolutely OK. And I don't see the reason to hate all the ''dubstep'' portraying Electro, etc. I think it fits nicely. I see much of the hate people throw at this work, but you can crucify me for what I will say - personally, this is my favourite Zimmer score so far (nope, it's not Interstellar). Trust me, I've been a fan of his for many years, but things change and some music just starts to feel ''over-listened''. This was something fresh, especially after the TDK trilogy. And I loved the movie itself as well. It was fun, it was sad - it was awesome. I had a really great time, seeing it at the cinema. And I hate to confess this, but I cried like a little bitch when... well, you know. And this was the second time that any movie has brought me to tears - big thanks to the music.

And you know, all that Zimmer ''I like vs I hate'' discussion is just useless in my opinion, because I think we can all agree - it's just ''I like'' and ''I don't like'' - a question of taste in music. Oh, and I just finished reading what JHFan said, concerning this particular thing and I can do nothing but agree in 100%.

Oh, and one more thing to add (to JHFan): for me TASM was one of the most beautiful ''classical'' (as some people like to describe) scores I've heard in recent years. ;)

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The truth has been spoken :)

I agree with you 100%. Literally. Even the crying bit. I watched the last hour of the movie again whilst on the bus this afternoon and I couldn't stop myself even then. Garfield's acting + Zimmer's score = one heck of an awesomely moving scene.

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Jesus Christ Fanboys ...................... ;)

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you do know that piece is on the OST and it was composed by Pharell Williams not Zimmer ;)

The whole point of the YouTube upload was that it was the film version of the cue. Not the version on the OST.

And the motif was composed by Pharrell for the song he wrote for the film. Zimmer was the one who masterfully crafted it into the score and made it so beautifully moving.

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Not the film version, so technically it is NOT on the OST, at least what abryus1337 is searching for.

19. The Rest Of My Life (2:28)
Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Andrew Kawczynski, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger

That was taken directly from Hans-Zimmer.com and I know damn sure that Hybrid Soldiers knows what he's talking about. And funny, I see Zimmer's name on this cue.

My point exactly. You beat me to it. ;)

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Oh and chronological order...

Thanks so much! :D

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No, MoS. Apparently it's the Imperfect Lock of MoS. I don't understand why it's such an amazing cue. But then again, I've seen the film 3 or 4 times and don't know it too well so maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks for the explanation! Haven't yet seen MoS...

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Ok, so... Perfectionism or whatever. Everything sounds really nice (I mean it) and perhaps I am wrong, but... Am I the only one who noticed that ''Ground Rules'' in the movie was actually placed between ''The Rest of My Life'' and ''You're that Spider Guy''?

The OST is completely out of order. A chronological link was posted a few posts up

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Yes, I know, and the chrono version is the one I'm talking about ;) So, please, correct me if I'm wrong about the order (maybe someone knows better).

Don't know what to tell you. I don't exactly know the order of the score myself and I've seen the film only twice.

[QUOTE=JHFan;2834067]You're absolutely right.

There were so many 80s action movies that went by based on that very principle you closed with, and it's entirely true. I guess for those older movies it worked because at least the actors involved and the stunts pulled were charismatic and creative, and likely of the moment. Now it's all done by committee and that committee hasn't learned anything. Shame. Marvel might be a committee-based business but at least it's made up of some genuinely creative minds who want to put the best stories they can out there, and they truly respect their characters and the fans who enjoy them.

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That's the aftereffect of the first Terminator film: the "I'll be back" syndrome. (Which, BTW, was just a line in the script. No significance attached to it at all. But it became iconic.) After that most eighties action films tried to craft a catchphrase or phrases that the audience would remember. (Remember, "go ahead, make my day.") And just about every Schwarzenegger flick had a bunch, most didn't work. You generally can't manufacture a hit although some franchises no matter how bad, and I'm looking at you Transformers, Pirates and latest TMNT, are bullet and idiot proof.

BTW... when I logged in and saw this thread on the main page, my heart almost skip a beat as I read "The Amazing Spider..."; but when I clicked it and read the full name, the lyrics of "My Enemy" came to my mind:

<<You liied to meee!!!>> xDD

Hopefully this'll arrive soon. Scorepranos' sporadic return and a few other leaks have ignited my suspicion that something big is coming down this Christmas/New Year. I hope I'm not wrong D:

Haha, sorry about that. Should've posted in the discussion forum. Apologies to you and anyone else suffering the same after-effects of an Electro-induced heart attack.

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I think there are some great elements in what is a really confused score. Nothing really flows in a narrative sense.

Elements which work well are probably the material in the opening sequence and the suite "Harry Suite" which I think perfectly captures the churning and burbling of hatred within the character.

The Electro theme was at least experimental in its guise but is never given IMHO further development. It needed to evolve more than it did.

There is a fanfare for Spidey, but this is never worked into the score beyond two or three appearances and just feels too OTT and not serious making it seem cheesy when it does appear. It could have worked better given a leitmotivic treatment similar to Danny Elfman's theme and John Williams' Raiders March. So when it rears its head, it feels like it came from nowhere.

Many people came together on this score only to sound disparate and disjointed especially regarding the material of Gwen and Peters relationship. There was a moment in the film where I couldn't tell if a pop song was about to play or if this was some working of Pharell Williams.


For me, the material around the Harry Osbourne character is one of the dwindling reasons I bought the score.


Next time Zimmer should just keep to his RCP friends or better yet collaborate with the composers who are proactively more ingenious at crafting scores than he is. Go see John Powell, Harry Gregson Williams or James Newton Howard.

This has to be from the 2010 Academy Awards when Giacchino (center, with his Oscar) won for Up. I see Beltrami and Zimmer to his left, but who are the two to his right? Is that Horner on the end?

I can't think. Zimmer was up for SH, Giacchino up for Up, Horner up for Avatar, Beltrami up for The Hurt Locker, and I can't remember the 5th...

Yes, that's Horner on the end. Look up the video (YouTube) about Horner scoring ASM. It's wonderful seeing the actual composer playing the themes on the piano and talking about the score, as well as conducting the studio orchestra.

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I have 40 plus years playing,composing, arranging,editing music .... I�m well versed..... ;)

And Zimmer�s Spidey theme is note for note that same... also his Battle Music for Gladiator is note for note the same as Holst�s planets

You have clearly not listened to ASM2. Well, maybe you listened to it once. Spidey's theme has similar notes and similar rhythms, but it is not "note-for-note" the same.

It's just not.

Plain and simple.

And hey, one of Powell's themes for Ice Age 3 is almost identical to the beginning of Jupiter. But that doesn't mean it's not original. It's simply a little nod to those who know their Holst.

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Ok, so... Perfectionism or whatever. Everything sounds really nice (I mean it) and perhaps I am wrong, but... Am I the only one who noticed that ''Ground Rules'' in the movie was actually placed between ''The Rest of My Life'' and ''You're that Spider Guy''?

Thanks for the heads-up! I've been working on my own chronological version for the last few days and hadn't got that far. I knew it wasn't in the Ground Rules scene, or the after-graduation scene, as others have said. I'll keep that in mind as I continue. The reason I'm not just using someone else's chronological version is because of just that. I'm a perfectionist (some of you here already know that!) and I can't trust someone else to do it! ;)

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I think there are some great elements in what is a really confused score. Nothing really flows in a narrative sense.

Elements which work well are probably the material in the opening sequence and the suite "Harry Suite" which I think perfectly captures the churning and burbling of hatred within the character.

The Electro theme was at least experimental in its guise but is never given IMHO further development. It needed to evolve more than it did.

There is a fanfare for Spidey, but this is never worked into the score beyond two or three appearances and just feels too OTT and not serious making it seem cheesy when it does appear. It could have worked better given a leitmotivic treatment similar to Danny Elfman's theme and John Williams' Raiders March. So when it rears its head, it feels like it came from nowhere.

Many people came together on this score only to sound disparate and disjointed especially regarding the material of Gwen and Peters relationship. There was a moment in the film where I couldn't tell if a pop song was about to play or if this was some working of Pharell Williams.


For me, the material around the Harry Osbourne character is one of the dwindling reasons I bought the score.


Next time Zimmer should just keep to his RCP friends or better yet collaborate with the composers who are proactively more ingenious at crafting scores than he is. Go see John Powell, Harry Gregson Williams or James Newton Howard.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I have to disagree about Spider-Man's theme though. I think it's incredibly majestic, triumphant, and downright exhilarating! And it does appear throughout the score in different forms, whether that's strings, piano, etc.

I do agree with you about Harry's theme - it fits the character perfectly.

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Wow... You're stupid!

Just had to let you know, that cracks me up every time I read it. XD

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I'm going to bed now, as I have to get up at 5:30am and its now 12:43am.

But thank you to those who have shared their opinions in a coherent and sensible way. That's what this thread is for! And thanks to those of you who tried to get this thread back on track. ;)

I certainly don't remember calling this thread the Hans Zimmer: Love Him or Hate Him Discussion Thread...

Yes, that's Horner on the end. Look up the video (YouTube) about Horner scoring ASM. It's wonderful seeing the actual composer playing the themes on the piano and talking about the score, as well as conducting the studio orchestra.

Which is available to see in some of my Spider-Man threads for Horner's score.


Absolutely, that's just fantastic. Especially, considering that these videos are quite rare.

I took it directly off of the Blu-ray release. NL197 on there is me.

Thanks for the heads-up! I've been working on my own chronological version for the last few days and hadn't got that far. I knew it wasn't in the Ground Rules scene, or the after-graduation scene, as others have said. I'll keep that in mind as I continue. The reason I'm not just using someone else's chronological version is because of just that. I'm a perfectionist (some of you here already know that!) and I can't trust someone else to do it! ;)

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I'm going to bed now, as I have to get up at 5:30am and its now 12:43am.

But thank you to those who have shared their opinions in a coherent and sensible way. That's what this thread is for! And thanks to those of you who tried to get this thread back on track. ;)

I certainly don't remember calling this thread the Hans Zimmer - Love Him or Hate Him Discussion Thread...

Unfortunately, there's "something" about Zimmer that sets certain people on a frenzy mode...

I've had a hard time arranging a chronological order for this movie too, mostly because many things don't match what you hear on the film. For example, "There He Is" sounds like it could be a version of the opening cue, because I can't match it anywhere else. To be honest, I don't mind that much that the tracks come out of order, that's typical Zimmer by now; what I hate is that the tracks are somehow arranged like a dj set, blending one song into the next, poorly cutting between one and the other. That's horrible. Doesn't matter what order to I arrange the tracks in, there's always like a second and a half that belongs somewhere else. It's things like these that make me wonder, how can Zimmer even sleep at night...

My Chrono order info was from Hybrid-Soldier ;)

Also here�s the Chrono order for Man Of Steel

https://mega.co.nz/#F!4wJVlBbT!jdKWTzz3bFFj1ADwixM8fA

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Double checked - it was some other guy who tried to make the chrono list for the official deluxe version. ;) ''Ground Rules'' actually sounds (ok, this may sound a little nerdy, but...) when aunt May is putting uncle Ben's stuff in the box and they talk, bla bla bla. So, basically, before he sees Gwen's speech. But everything's fine - you did a nice work and I'm sure it took time, so don't take my words in any negative way. ;) So anyways, thanks, rocklegend.


I think the Problem with TASM2 is that many cues are blended together to make long suites.....

Double checked - it was some other guy who tried to make the chrono list for the official deluxe version. ;) ''Ground Rules'' actually sounds (ok, this may sound a little nerdy, but...) when aunt May is putting uncle Ben's stuff in the box and they talk, bla bla bla. So, basically, before he sees Gwen's speech. But everything's fine - you did a nice work and I'm sure it took time, so don't take my words in any negative way. ;) So anyways, thanks, rocklegend.

That's right - "Ground Rules" is from that scene. But you can't stick it between "The Rest of My Life" and "You're That Spider Guy" because they've been crossfaded so badly that "You're That Spider Guy" starts before "The Rest of My Life" ends. Damn crossfading.

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This is what James Horner himself had to say about working on the first "Amazing Spider-Man", and his two simple reasons he did not score the second film.

This is taken from an interview I transcribed from audio to text. The interview itself is here:

CONVERSATION WITH JAMES HORNER* JAMES HORNER (http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/conversation-james-horner/)

While what I am quoting is from the unedited interview. Some parts were cut out of the final publishing.

And I quote:



INT: So the “Spider-Man” movie was quite unusual for you, it was probably the directors personality that brought you to this project because he had a different vision for this film?

James Horner: He was very inexperienced and he and I had a very good relationship and the producers had their own opinion.

INT: Okay...

JH: And they didn't want his input. And then Sony had their own, they just wanted action.
To me the whole thing about doing the movie was I liked the director and there was a chance to write something for the two lead characters and then she dies in the next movie.

INT: Yeah.

JH: But the next movie ended up being so terrible, I didn't want to do it. It was just dreadful. And I guess Hans did it with a whole group of people.

INT: Yeah that's right.

JH: They spent a fortune which was crazy, on the music with all these rappers and it didn't help the movie.


Now keep this in mind (before you take a dump for what I've quoted here):

Horner has gone on record many, many times about wanting no part of these Superhero franchise movies (he said so in 2010), and only did it really because of Marc Webb. He's also said many times (including the interview above) that he's tired of having to deal with 7 or 8 producers, studio executives, financial backers, and all these hangers-on, when the old days a composer would ONLY have to please the director him or herself. His job is to work with a filmmaker to tell a good story, not some studio hotshot who wants bigger explosions to sell more tickets.

So this is not 'sour grapes' that he didn't score TASM 2. The only sour grapes Horner has come from dealing with so many people who really don't have any concern for the film itself beyond how much money it can make, and not the filmmaker who wants to make the best film he can.

Some of you don't agree that TASM 2 was bad but many people do think it was a terrible movie. I half-agree. I think it was FUN but also full of shit. It had great moments and some absolute terrible moments...I'm looking right at YOU Dane DeHaan!

Also, Horner's comment about how all that money for music didn't help is true: The Electro chanting was one of the most heavily criticized aspects of the film, and the film itself was not the success Sony wanted, which we all know. I don't think it helped either. I think it was a little strange but it didn't help or hinder. It was just there and weird. Fun though.

This is what James Horner himself had to say about working on the first "Amazing Spider-Man", and his two simple reasons he did not score the second film.

This is taken from an interview I transcribed from audio to text. The interview itself is here:

CONVERSATION WITH JAMES HORNER* JAMES HORNER (http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/conversation-james-horner/)

While what I am quoting is from the unedited interview. Some parts were cut out of the final publishing.

And I quote:



Now keep this in mind (before you take a dump for what I've quoted here):

Horner has gone on record many, many times about wanting no part of these Superhero franchise movies (he said so in 2010), and only did it really because of Marc Webb. He's also said many times (including the interview above) that he's tired of having to deal with 7 or 8 producers, studio executives, financial backers, and all these hangers-on, when the old days a composer would ONLY have to please the director him or herself. His job is to work with a filmmaker to tell a good story, not some studio hotshot who wants bigger explosions to sell more tickets.

So this is not 'sour grapes' that he didn't score TASM 2. The only sour grapes Horner has come from dealing with so many people who really don't have any concern for the film itself beyond how much money it can make, and not the filmmaker who wants to make the best film he can.

Some of you don't agree that TASM 2 was bad but many people do think it was a terrible movie. I half-agree. I think it was FUN but also full of shit. It had great moments and some absolute terrible moments...I'm looking right at YOU Dane DeHaan!

Also, Horner's comment about how all that money for music didn't help is true: The Electro chanting was one of the most heavily criticized aspects of the film, and the film itself was not the success Sony wanted, which we all know. I don't think it helped either. I think it was a little strange but it didn't help or hinder. It was just there and weird. Fun though.


It also didn�t help the fact that Andrew Garfield had a right go at Sony for Interferring..... I admire Horner for his Honesty and he�s dead right about the music.... it was the most panned aspect of the film and it was truly shite.... Horners music for TASM1 Was the only decent aspect of the first one imo....

I love when Horner says And I guess Hans did it with a whole group of people. ..... bang on the money that.... Hack Zimmer can�t write a score on his own from start to finish which makes the majority of his music in films very jarring and very much Copy and Paste

It also didn�t help the fact that Andrew Garfield had a right go at Sony for Interferring..... I admire Horner for his Honesty and he�s dead right about the music.... it was the most panned aspect of the film and it was truly shite.... Horners music for TASM1 Was the only decent aspect of the first one imo....

I love when Horner says And I guess Hans did it with a whole group of people. ..... bang on the money that.... Hack Zimmer can�t write a score on his own from start to finish which makes the majority of his music in films very jarring and very much Copy and Paste


I'm sorry, that is not correct. The majority of the negative reviews focused on the overcrowded plot and poorly written characters.

Don't try to bend reality to fit into your point of view. You don't like the score, or Zimmer. Unfortunately, you're not able to express yourself or any opinion with anything that resembles reason, tact, or rational thought. So from the beginning, nothing you say has any kind of validity at all.

This is what James Horner himself had to say about working on the first "Amazing Spider-Man", and his two simple reasons he did not score the second film.

This is taken from an interview I transcribed from audio to text. The interview itself is here:

CONVERSATION WITH JAMES HORNER* JAMES HORNER (http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/conversation-james-horner/)

While what I am quoting is from the unedited interview. Some parts were cut out of the final publishing.

And I quote:



Now keep this in mind (before you take a dump for what I've quoted here):

Horner has gone on record many, many times about wanting no part of these Superhero franchise movies (he said so in 2010), and only did it really because of Marc Webb. He's also said many times (including the interview above) that he's tired of having to deal with 7 or 8 producers, studio executives, financial backers, and all these hangers-on, when the old days a composer would ONLY have to please the director him or herself. His job is to work with a filmmaker to tell a good story, not some studio hotshot who wants bigger explosions to sell more tickets.

So this is not 'sour grapes' that he didn't score TASM 2. The only sour grapes Horner has come from dealing with so many people who really don't have any concern for the film itself beyond how much money it can make, and not the filmmaker who wants to make the best film he can.

Some of you don't agree that TASM 2 was bad but many people do think it was a terrible movie. I half-agree. I think it was FUN but also full of shit. It had great moments and some absolute terrible moments...I'm looking right at YOU Dane DeHaan!

Also, Horner's comment about how all that money for music didn't help is true: The Electro chanting was one of the most heavily criticized aspects of the film, and the film itself was not the success Sony wanted, which we all know. I don't think it helped either. I think it was a little strange but it didn't help or hinder. It was just there and weird. Fun though.

Well Hans was the first choice for TASM 1, refused because of TDKR...

The franchise was doomed anyway... The second is not a good movie, but it improved slightly from the aweful first film (the crane scene with C. Thomas Howell is most cheesy stuff I've seen in a movie in 2 decades). Horner's score was good. Zimmer's score is good too, and the Times Square scene is the only scene that can save this movie... As much as I don't like Pharrell, the Electro "chanting" wasn't bad in film, and Johnny Marr's guitar riff is awesome in that track...

Well Hans was the first choice for TASM 1, refused because of TDKR...

The franchise was doomed anyway... The second is not a good movie, but it improved slightly from the aweful first film (the crane scene with C. Thomas Howell is most cheesy stuff I've seen in a movie in 2 decades). Horner's score was good. Zimmer's score is good too, and the Times Square scene is the only scene that can save this movie... As much as I don't like Pharrell, the Electro "chanting" wasn't bad in film, and Johnny Marr's guitar riff is awesome in that track...


This is not true.... Horner was the only choice and it was Sony who choose him..... Zimmer was never even in contention.... as for TASM 2 ...... Webb wanted that other Hack Jablonsky .... he couldn�t do because of his loyalty to Bay and convinced Zimmer to do it...... Webb has stated this in many interviews..... not the epk�s

This is not true.... Horner was the only choice and it was Sony who choose him..... Zimmer was never even in contention.... as for TASM 2 ...... Webb wanted that other Hack Jablonsky .... he couldn�t do because of his loyalty to Bay and convinced Zimmer to do it...... Webb has stated this in many interviews..... not the epk�s

This completely contradicts every article I've read about TASM1/2 Horner-Webb-Zimmer debocle. To my understanding, Webb wanted Zimmer to begin with, but he was busy doing TDKR. No way was he going to abandon that to do TASM. So Webb finally got him to do TASM2

Oh my god...who cares. James Horner composed the music to The Amazing Spider-man. Hans Zimmer composed the music to The Amazing Spider-man 2. Ugh, only Webb knows what he wanted.

Yeah and Steve McQueen says in every interviews he called Hans to hire him on 12 Years A Slave (Zimmer says it as well), but it's not true... ;)

Zimmer was asked to do the first film, you want it or not...

I'm sorry, that is not correct. The majority of the negative reviews focused on the overcrowded plot and poorly written characters.

Don't try to bend reality to fit into your point of view. You don't like the score, or Zimmer. Unfortunately, you're not able to express yourself or any opinion with anything that resembles reason, tact, or rational thought. So from the beginning, nothing you say has any kind of validity at all.

Well here in Europe Zimmers score got panned left right and center..... especially the shite Electro music .... don�t know about the USA.......
Never would I try to bend reality .... my reason for not liking Zimmer makes sense to me.... his shite is nothing but meandering drones of long passages of nothing .... when a so called composer is on a mission to write music or meandering noise with as little notes as possible it says alot to me about his attitude towards films..... he doesn�t write to picture.... he writes to what he thinks his fanboys will think it�s epic.... it is noteworthy to note that Zimmer seems to be attaching himself to directors that either have no clue about movie music or just don�t like music in film.....eq Nolan ..... Snyder ..... but it doesn�t really matter..... does it because Zimmer could shite on a stick and his fanboys would lap it up ......
I hope I expressed myself more clearly......

oh and one more thing..... there�s some seriously talented composers out there who can�t get work because this Zimmer dude is refusing to allow these artists to shine through instead forcing his clones to copy and paste his style onto others.... ya see he�s nothing more than a McDonalds.... a low end franchise

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This completely contradicts every article I've read about TASM1/2 Horner-Webb-Zimmer debocle. To my understanding, Webb wanted Zimmer to begin with, but he was busy doing TDKR. No way was he going to abandon that to do TASM. So Webb finally got him to do TASM2

Nope this is not true.... Jablonsky set the record straight.... he was asked first and recommended Zimmer..... unless you call Jablonsky a liar

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Yeah and Steve McQueen says in every interviews he called Hans to hire him on 12 Years A Slave (Zimmer says it as well), but it's not true... ;)

Zimmer was asked to do the first film, you want it or not...

That is true.... also McQueen temps his film with Zimmer music...... I never said McQueen didn�t want Zimmer.....

Well here in Europe Zimmers score got panned left right and center..... especially the shite Electro music ....

I'm in Europe, I read nothing, could you enlight me and show me some articles & stuff ?

Jesus Zimmer fanboys are a touchy bunch .... The Messiah was not chosen.... the Messiah was not chosen lol :)

Jesus Zimmer fanboys are a touchy bunch .... The Messiah was not chosen.... the Messiah was not chosen lol :)

You seem to be a "touchy bunch", saying nothing in every of your sentences, never giving any example to support anything you say. And your theories about HZ are just plain stupid. You don't like it, fine, why are you in this thread anyway, to prove everyone that the Neanderthal species didn't die ?

I have to say, this sounds amazing news! I cannot wait to hear the cues. We'll just have to wait...

Greetings, well I don't usually post alot on these threads, but when I read that there was a TASM 2 Score thread, I really wanted to throw my two cents about it. First, I would like to make clear that I still haven't watched the movie, but I've seen some scenes of it, those being mostly from Electro's, so please forgive me on reviewing the tracks with some lack of context whatsoever.

When I first was presented to this soundtrack, I was quite surprised that Hans Zimmer would be the composer of the second installment of this franchise, then I remembered he's been scoring lots of super movie hero's movies lately. Curious about what sort of approach he would be doing in terms of the score, I gave it a listen. The results were sort of a mixed bag to say at least.

One of the first tracks, There He Is starts off with a fast paced one-note rhythm section, that integrates acoustic guitar, strings, step sequencers, pads and some woodwinds sections. I really liked it, it's very reminiscent from the works of Philip Glass & Steve Reich and the sequenced bass notes add alot to the adrenaline that is supposed to be this movie. Same can be said from Special Project & I Need To Know (those guitar strums get me every time).

Actually I liked the first so much, that I would thought that was Spider-Man's Theme. So when I heard I'm Spider-Man I got sort of disappointed. Sure, I mean, Hans would want to come with his own approach on superhero themes, but this one with the Man Of Steel themes are quite forgettable and lacks any sort of progression, they just get louder and louder. Like, if I didn't knew this was from Spider-Man, I could easily assume that this was from any other superhero than just him. Just a brass with trumpet section as lead that can't seem to go any further.

Then there's the famous Electro Suite, that seems to be one of the most polarizing aspects I've heard from this movie, particularly the whispering vocals and dubstep sections. I'm usually not quite fond of dubstep, but I like it when it's merged so well with other musical elements without being "FULL DUBSTEP SHOVED IN YO FACE". The beginning starts in with some woodwind sections, that makes me think of Max's character sort of goofy, funny, and I honestly couldn't hear it with a straight face, cause the woodwinds in here sound so dry and stiff that I almost tend to believe they're from virtual instrument libraries (which I wouldn't doubt it, coming from Hans). Vocals make their entrance with a kick & guitar, and yet, the seriousness that tries to portray this piece on Max's transition to Electro doesn't seem to convince me. The choir enters sort of screaming "Electro!", but I couldn't manage to hear it clear due to the amount of distortion combined with the soundscape and brass combined. I think that's one of the aspects that tends to bother me in Hans louder pieces, I can't appreciate the elements that compounds the piece cause it's so loud in some sections, it overwhelms the rest of the instruments or because it's not mixed so well. And then ending with a full on dubstep. Yeah didn't very much liked this piece at all.

And then there's my favorite suite from all the tracks, Harry's Suite, the electric solo violin sections combined with some pads and strings overall makes this piece such a delight to hear. It's calm and grows sharp, very nice callback from TDK trilogy. Loved it.

As for the rest of the tracks (composed from Zimmer), can't say very much about it except for Cold War that suits nice for that fighting scene between Spider-Man & Electro.

In the end, if I were to say if this is Hans best work on 2014, I'd would have to disagree, however, it's not entirely bad but it doesn't stand out as his best this year.

That's all I'd have to say, sorry for some grammar mistakes in advance.

Well here in Europe Zimmers score got panned left right and center..... especially the shite Electro music .... don�t know about the USA.......
Never would I try to bend reality .... my reason for not liking Zimmer makes sense to me.... his shite is nothing but meandering drones of long passages of nothing .... when a so called composer is on a mission to write music or meandering noise with as little notes as possible it says alot to me about his attitude towards films..... he doesn�t write to picture.... he writes to what he thinks his fanboys will think it�s epic.... it is noteworthy to note that Zimmer seems to be attaching himself to directors that either have no clue about movie music or just don�t like music in film.....eq Nolan ..... Snyder ..... but it doesn�t really matter..... does it because Zimmer could shite on a stick and his fanboys would lap it up ......
I hope I expressed myself more clearly......

oh and one more thing..... there�s some seriously talented composers out there who can�t get work because this Zimmer dude is refusing to allow these artists to shine through instead forcing his clones to copy and paste his style onto others.... ya see he�s nothing more than a McDonalds.... a low end franchise

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Nope this is not true.... Jablonsky set the record straight.... he was asked first and recommended Zimmer..... unless you call Jablonsky a liar

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That is true.... also McQueen temps his film with Zimmer music...... I never said McQueen didn�t want Zimmer.....

The thing is... you're the one spewing "fanboy" self righteous hyperbole. Rants and raves that have no real basis in fact or rational views, just " he's shite". That is the depth of your reasoning. And you don't realize that you sabotage everything you say by your hysterics.

Nothing you say has any merit.

That being said...this is like arguing with a circus chimp. Go on as you will, but really nothing can be gained here and it derails the thread.

The thing is... you're the one spewing "fanboy" self righteous hyperbole. Rants and raves that have no real basis in fact or rational views, just " he's shite". That is the depth of your reasoning. And you don't realize that you sabotage everything you say by your hysterics.

Nothing you say has any merit.

Of course not... Zimmer fanboys see no Rhyme nor reason ;)

I liked TASM2, though it had to grow on me. And I'm still not certain about the dubstep elements in Electro's theme. But Zimmer's best came twenty years ago (you know which score I'm referring to) and he's not been able to repeat that success. I get that he wants to experiment though. Interstellar sounded fine to me, so I know he's got it in him to produce a truly great score again. I'm not a Zimmer fan per se, and these days I don't really look forward to his scores as such. I'm more into Michael Giacchino, John Williams or Danny Elfman.

Look, when it comes down to the barest of bare bones, the arguments on here have gone beyond simple dislike for Zimmer and straight into provoking those who like this score.

I just hope that the trailer music from Comic Con is gonna get leaked somewhere.
:(

What it seems to boil down to is TASM2 was a film by committee, the committee being Sony Pictures. And as the saying goes a camel is a horse by . . . . You fill in the blank. Instead of allowing the director they hired to do what they hired him for, they thought they knew better and they meddled. Instead of the Avengers they got Howard the Duck.

My SWAG, silly wild ass guess, on this falls to one of the oldest truths in entertainment and while I hate repeating myself it does bear mentioning: if it ain't on the page, it ain't on the stage. Marvel is comprised to writers while the folks at Sony, like most Americans, stopped reading the moment they left college. And if you don't read, you don't and won't know how to write. Or recognize good or bad writing when you read it.

I think Sony counted on the on screen chemistry between Garfield and Stone to wallpaper over any cracks in the script. Look at the scene between Gwen and Peter when she was applying to Oxford. If the dialogue was actually written that way then the writer needs to be shot. Out of a cannon. Into space. It came across as totally ad libbed and horribly ad libbed at that. (And yes, I understand that is the way many people speak. But we don't go to the movies or read books to experience reality. We read and watch them to experience a version of reality, one where people speak in a cogent, clear and concise manner and at the hands of a talented writer like a Goldman, Bracket, Hammett, Chandler, Townsend or Mamet, we get dialogue that is entertaining and memorable.)

I go to the movies to escape :)

And as J.R.R. Tolkien noted: there is only one type of person who tries to prevent escape and that person is called a jailer.

I admire Horner for his Honesty and he�s dead right about the music.... it was the most panned aspect of the film and it was truly shite.... Horners music for TASM1 Was the only decent aspect of the first one imo....

Let's not twist anything here.

Horner had no comment on the nature of Hans and Co's score. He didn't say anything about it beyond that Sony spent all that money the music which didn't help the movie - didn't help because Sony didn't have the hit movie on their hands that they expected.

Re-read the quote again. Nothing is mentioned about Horner's thoughts on the music, just the film itself.

As for Webb:


This completely contradicts every article I've read about TASM1/2 Horner-Webb-Zimmer debocle. To my understanding, Webb wanted Zimmer to begin with, but he was busy doing TDKR. No way was he going to abandon that to do TASM. So Webb finally got him to do TASM2

Who was it who said Webb wanted Zimmer to begin with?

I mean specifically, who was that? I see that mentioned (only here, nowhere else), but never anything about where that claim came from.

I ask because everything Horner has said from the get-go was that he only wanted to work with Webb, not score a big superhero movie. They were friends and that was their chance to work together, since Webb had only one film under his belt before that - "500 Days Of Summer". Horner said over and over that basically Sony execs got in their way. Webb wanted to tell a good story, Sony wanted a big blockbuster and story be dammed. Prior to the film's release there was a LOT of talk about Sony execs not liking the movie, and what happened next? The whole "untold origin" and Peter's background, all of that, ended up in Spider-Man 2 instead. Sony had much more control over things for the sequel and it bit them in the ass. Sony wanted the biggest thing, which musically of course is Zimmer and Co. Hence the massive album push and the chance to say "hey, we have Pharrell on this movie!" Not to mention how much bigger and louder and crazier the sequel is to the first film.

Well here in Europe Zimmers score got panned left right and center..... especially the shite Electro music .... don�t know about the USA.......
Never would I try to bend reality .... my reason for not liking Zimmer makes sense to me.... his shite is nothing but meandering drones of long passages of nothing .... when a so called composer is on a mission to write music or meandering noise with as little notes as possible it says alot to me about his attitude towards films..... he doesn�t write to picture.... he writes to what he thinks his fanboys will think it�s epic.... it is noteworthy to note that Zimmer seems to be attaching himself to directors that either have no clue about movie music or just don�t like music in film.....eq Nolan ..... Snyder ..... but it doesn�t really matter..... does it because Zimmer could shite on a stick and his fanboys would lap it up ......
I hope I expressed myself more clearly......

oh and one more thing..... there�s some seriously talented composers out there who can�t get work because this Zimmer dude is refusing to allow these artists to shine through instead forcing his clones to copy and paste his style onto others.... ya see he�s nothing more than a McDonalds.... a low end franchise

Nope this is not true.... Jablonsky set the record straight.... he was asked first and recommended Zimmer..... unless you call Jablonsky a liar

That is true.... also McQueen temps his film with Zimmer music...... I never said McQueen didn�t want Zimmer.....

Wow, the "Let's hate the emotional Zimmer fanboys" fanboy is getting quite emotional. 114 full stops in one post. Seriously?

Your repetitive "Zimmer is sh*t" arguments really aren't doing it for me. It is very clear that you have not listened to any proper amount of Zimmer (at least not with your ears open), so to go insulting him and his work to such lengths, and basically insulting those of us here who like him, is pretty childish. You are getting very worked up, and it's getting very annoying, as you don't appear to have anything else to say, or anything to support your wild claims.

This thread was for members here to discuss Zimmer's ASM2 in a civilised way. Not with meaningless, unsupported statements and rants.

Thank you to everyone who has been civilised, and has shared their opinions in a coherent way. Negative opinions are perfectly welcome here (read my opening post), but only those with at least some intelligence.

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Greetings, well I don't usually post alot on these threads, but when I read that there was a TASM 2 Score thread, I really wanted to throw my two cents about it. First, I would like to make clear that I still haven't watched the movie, but I've seen some scenes of it, those being mostly from Electro's, so please forgive me on reviewing the tracks with some lack of context whatsoever.

When I first was presented to this soundtrack, I was quite surprised that Hans Zimmer would be the composer of the second installment of this franchise, then I remembered he's been scoring lots of super movie hero's movies lately. Curious about what sort of approach he would be doing in terms of the score, I gave it a listen. The results were sort of a mixed bag to say at least.

One of the first tracks, There He Is starts off with a fast paced one-note rhythm section, that integrates acoustic guitar, strings, step sequencers, pads and some woodwinds sections. I really liked it, it's very reminiscent from the works of Philip Glass & Steve Reich and the sequenced bass notes add alot to the adrenaline that is supposed to be this movie. Same can be said from Special Project & I Need To Know (those guitar strums get me every time).

Actually I liked the first so much, that I would thought that was Spider-Man's Theme. So when I heard I'm Spider-Man I got sort of disappointed. Sure, I mean, Hans would want to come with his own approach on superhero themes, but this one with the Man Of Steel themes are quite forgettable and lacks any sort of progression, they just get louder and louder. Like, if I didn't knew this was from Spider-Man, I could easily assume that this was from any other superhero than just him. Just a brass with trumpet section as lead that can't seem to go any further.

Then there's the famous Electro Suite, that seems to be one of the most polarizing aspects I've heard from this movie, particularly the whispering vocals and dubstep sections. I'm usually not quite fond of dubstep, but I like it when it's merged so well with other musical elements without being "FULL DUBSTEP SHOVED IN YO FACE". The beginning starts in with some woodwind sections, that makes me think of Max's character sort of goofy, funny, and I honestly couldn't hear it with a straight face, cause the woodwinds in here sound so dry and stiff that I almost tend to believe they're from virtual instrument libraries (which I wouldn't doubt it, coming from Hans). Vocals make their entrance with a kick & guitar, and yet, the seriousness that tries to portray this piece on Max's transition to Electro doesn't seem to convince me. The choir enters sort of screaming "Electro!", but I couldn't manage to hear it clear due to the amount of distortion combined with the soundscape and brass combined. I think that's one of the aspects that tends to bother me in Hans louder pieces, I can't appreciate the elements that compounds the piece cause it's so loud in some sections, it overwhelms the rest of the instruments or because it's not mixed so well. And then ending with a full on dubstep. Yeah didn't very much liked this piece at all.

And then there's my favorite suite from all the tracks, Harry's Suite, the electric solo violin sections combined with some pads and strings overall makes this piece such a delight to hear. It's calm and grows sharp, very nice callback from TDK trilogy. Loved it.

As for the rest of the tracks (composed from Zimmer), can't say very much about it except for Cold War that suits nice for that fighting scene between Spider-Man & Electro.

In the end, if I were to say if this is Hans best work on 2014, I'd would have to disagree, however, it's not entirely bad but it doesn't stand out as his best this year.

That's all I'd have to say, sorry for some grammar mistakes in advance.

Thanks for your insightful comments. I agree with you on a lot of your points. I'd also highly recommend seeing the film!

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Also, just thought I'd say again:

All I know is that Horner was attached for the first film one year before the release. And long before the first rumours of Harry Gregson-Williams doing it.

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OMG... Can we just stop this shit once and for all? I mean, come on - I am a ''Zimmer fanboy'', but that's just because my mom bought me ''The Last Samurai'' score when I was a teenager and that was my favorite score at the time. I felt completely in love with his style, but it does not mean that he does not have shitty scores in his discography. I agree he does. You know what pisses me off the most? People, who judge scores and movies without even thinking that this might be a very personal experience for any viewer/listener. And that is the reason why I personally hate all the critics (metascore, etc...) - it is once again ''I love'' or ''I don't''. People! Zimmer, Howard or John Williams, James Horner... WHATEVER! This is all about the taste anyways. Whenever I see a post, saying something good about Zimmer's score, there always has to be a hater comment right next to it. And it's not just about film music. Hate is just everywhere. You know what: I like Zimmer's score way much than Horner's score. However I give a very positive comments regarding the TASM score. So why can't we all do that? Appreciate the music without bitching about it? If you don't like it - OK, but why would you make everybody who is a fan feel like some sort of uneducated, stupid consumers? That's just not fair...

Yes, I am mad at this point.

Thank you for that, Mr abryus. May that be the end of the hate and the arguments. From now on, let's get back to the topic.

I've just listened to You're That Spider Guy for the millionth time. It never ceases to bring a huge smile to my face. Wow, is that a powerful piece of writing!! So much emotion, yet so simple.

I think I've finished my chronological ordering of the OST, but I'll check it one more time tomorrow before posting the track list. "Sum Total" is clearly the scene when Harry becomes Goblin, but it's not the film version...

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Same here, huge smile: ''Yeah, thanks for stepping up for me - you're the bravest kid I've ever seen. I'm gonna take of this jerk, you go take care of your mom, ok?'' :)

And the beginning of the cue always brings a lump into my throat. ;)

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There doesn't appear to be an alternate version of "Harry Transformation" on the cue list... But "Sum Total" is different to the film version, quite noticeably so - beginning when the spider venom starts taking effect.

I don't consider myself a Zimmer hater. I have 16 of his soundtracks in my library, after all. Hell, I was downright moved by several moments in Interstellar.

But I have to say...



That picture is a textbook illustration of what the Germans call backpfeifengesicht.

Translated literally: "a face that needs a fist".

My two cents on TASM2:

I heard the Horner's score in full long before I ever watched TASM1 and absolutely LOVED it. The piano performances, a memorable theme, great orchestrations, etc. And then I heard that Hans Zimmer was doing the score, and heard the theme from the website. Up until that point, I was excited.

Don't get me wrong, I think Hans has great ideas sometimes. The Spidey theme? Not one of my favorites. Electro? Interesting take for sure.

Then I heard the score in order in the movie.... It was one of the aspects I enjoyed. Except on album, not so much. I'm kinda hoping for the complete so that I can hear what Zimmer and Co. did as it's intended to.

There doesn't appear to be an alternate version of "Harry Transformation" on the cue list... But "Sum Total" is different to the film version, quite noticeably so - beginning when the spider venom starts taking effect.

Yeah I noticed that too.

What I'm guessing is an insert recorded later on or possibly even just copy/pasted from another cue. Same with the film version of "My Enemy". There seems to be an insert for the Electro/Spidey fight that occurs before the end of the scene.

Not to be a dick, but why is there a discussion about the film mix of this score (especially in the download section) when it hasn�t even leaked yet. So we have the cue list and credits. Big deal. Same can be said for Man of Steel. Doesn�t mean it�ll be available any time soon.

By the way, I only skimmed through the comments when I saw there wasn�t an actual link for the score, so if someone already said what I have then disregard my statements.

I'm also saying this as someone who enjoyed the score more or less (even though it took a while to grow on me, and I'm still not sure I like the Electro cues).

I agree, this should be on General Discussion. Although, there should be more debate on scores in this forum. Not just "here's the score", "thank you, OP. Loved it", "thank you, OP. Hated it".

I don't mean to provoke rocklegend but he hasn't any sound arguments here. It's also another reason people avoid this type of discussion because in a Zimmer thread you'll get all manner of "this is literally the worst shit on the planet".

Don't up and leave and for fuck sake, rocklegend even likes the posts of people pointing out his idiocy. Can't you at least respond with clear points?



Anyhow. I watched the film again on blu-ray yesterday paid more attention to the score. I like the development and mischievous quality to Electro even though I thought he was a terrible character. I still didn't find any of the Gwen and Peter material interesting and it made me wish Horner had stuck around. Until the dubstep.

The Electro material is probably the only thread through the film along with Harry's theme which doesn't really announce itself too much, it's kind of restrained in the film.

I liked the film upon it's initial viewing but now I'm seriously thinking that the film would have worked better with a more connected score which I had hoped would build off the material of the first film. Actually I'm going to listen to Horner's score right now to calm me down a bit.

That picture is a textbook illustration of what the Germans call backpfeifengesicht.

Translated literally: "a face that needs a fist".[/QUOTE]

Actually, the literal translation is "cheek whistling face." Back is cheek, pfeifen is whistling and gesicht is, of course, face. But the explanation of the expression is correct: a face that needs a smack.

Germans do love their compound words. Probably because German has half as many words as English does.

Arrogance, Germans do that rather well also.

I don't mean to provoke rocklegend but he hasn't any sound arguments here. It's also another reason people avoid this type of discussion because in a Zimmer thread you'll get all manner of "this is literally the worst shit on the planet".

Don't up and leave and for fuck sake, rocklegend even likes the posts of people pointing out his idiocy. Can't you at least respond with clear points?



Anyhow. I watched the film again on blu-ray yesterday paid more attention to the score. I like the development and mischievous quality to Electro even though I thought he was a terrible character. I still didn't find any of the Gwen and Peter material interesting and it made me wish Horner had stuck around. Until the dubstep.

The Electro material is probably the only thread through the film along with Harry's theme which doesn't really announce itself too much, it's kind of restrained in the film.

I liked the film upon it's initial viewing but now I'm seriously thinking that the film would have worked better with a more connected score which I had hoped would build off the material of the first film. Actually I'm going to listen to Horner's score right now to calm me down a bit.

What would you like me to expand upon..... the fact that I Like Zimmer as a guy, met him, worked at RCP for 3 years but I hate his factory of clones and his meandering soundscapes and loud obnoxious noise .... turning Orchestra�s into synth samples that sound like shite.... his scores constantly written in D Major..... christ does he even know another key..... or the fact that Zimmer is unable change because he doesn�t have the skills to....Zimmer is nothing more than a gimmick,a fad,has not written anything worth while.... he�s propped up by Rabid Fanboys who know no better ;) I�m no longer into this thread and feel bad that I probably derailed it... There�s so many better composers out there such as Beltrami, Desplat, Giacchino ..... Zimmer reminds me everything that is wrong with modern cinema and music.... no creativity

What would you like me to expand upon..... the fact that I Like Zimmer as a guy(?)

You like Zimmer as a guy? My word, it doesn't sound like it:


I hate his factory of clones and his meandering soundscapes and loud obnoxious noise .... turning Orchestra�s into synth samples that sound like shite.... his scores constantly written in D Major..... christ does he even know another key..... or the fact that Zimmer is unable change because he doesn�t have the skills to....Zimmer is nothing more than a gimmick,a fad,has not written anything worth while....

That's not how I talk about people I like.

You worked at RCP for three years? Not sure I believe you. If you had, I would've thought you'd have something more intelligent to say than "Zimmer is sh*t."

But even if you did, you clearly have nothing intelligible to contribute to this discussion. You have derailed it into a "love/hate Zimmer" debate, and I'm glad you're no longer "into" it.

You like Zimmer as a guy? My word, it doesn't sound like it:



That's not how I talk about people I like.

You worked at RCP for three years? Not sure I believe you. If you had, I would've thought you'd have something more intelligent to say than "Zimmer is sh*t."

But even if you did, you clearly have nothing intelligible to contribute to this discussion. You have derailed it into a "love/hate Zimmer" debate, and I'm glad you're no longer "into" it.

Yeah I worked as a music editor for 3 years 1999-2002.....
Whether you believe me or not it doesn�t really bother me......... and don�t put words in my mouth... I�m pretty sure I said Zimmer�s music is shite.... not the man himself

Yeah I worked as a music editor for 3 years 1999-2002.....
Whether you believe me or not it doesn�t really bother me......... and don�t put words in my mouth... I�m pretty sure I said Zimmer�s music is shite.... not the man himself

So you worked at RCP. Fine.

I didn't put words in your mouth. In that context, "Zimmer" means "Music by Zimmer". For example, I can say "I love Zimmer" but that doesn't mean I actually love the guy! I'm sure he's a lovable guy, but in that context Zimmer refers to the music, not the man.

And you may not have called Zimmer himself sh*t, but you did say that he is a gimmick and a fad, and you clearly weren't referring to his music.

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Hey, I have a very simple question: what are you trying to prove here? I mean by all of your posts. :)

That Zimmer is shit !!

I don't mean to provoke rocklegend but he hasn't any sound arguments here. It's also another reason people avoid this type of discussion because in a Zimmer thread you'll get all manner of "this is literally the worst shit on the planet".

Don't up and leave and for fuck sake, rocklegend even likes the posts of people pointing out his idiocy. Can't you at least respond with clear points?



Anyhow. I watched the film again on blu-ray yesterday paid more attention to the score. I like the development and mischievous quality to Electro even though I thought he was a terrible character. I still didn't find any of the Gwen and Peter material interesting and it made me wish Horner had stuck around. Until the dubstep.

The Electro material is probably the only thread through the film along with Harry's theme which doesn't really announce itself too much, it's kind of restrained in the film.

I liked the film upon it's initial viewing but now I'm seriously thinking that the film would have worked better with a more connected score which I had hoped would build off the material of the first film. Actually I'm going to listen to Horner's score right now to calm me down a bit.

Thanks for sharing your views. I have to say, I think Zimmer's material for Peter and Gwen is beautiful. But I absolutely love Horner's score just as much. I was disappointed when I originally found out he wasn't scoring the sequel, but I'm very happy with what Zimmer & Co. came up with, even though it's so different!

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That Zimmer is shit !!

Yes, I think that is what he is trying to prove. But that's not what this thread is about.

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I agree, this should be on General Discussion. Although, there should be more debate on scores in this forum. Not just "here's the score", "thank you, OP. Loved it", "thank you, OP. Hated it".

Once again, apologies for posting this thread in the wrong forum. If someone knows how to move it to the correct forum, that would be great. :)

Thanks for sharing your views. I have to say, I think Zimmer's material for Peter and Gwen is beautiful. But I absolutely love Horner's score just as much. I was disappointed when I originally found out he wasn't scoring the sequel, but I'm very happy with what Zimmer & Co. came up with, even though it's so different!

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Yes, I think that is what he is trying to prove. But that's not what this thread is about.

Yeah I agree .... the music for Peter and Gwen is beautiful.... the chords and melody was written by Pharall Williams .... Zimmer just added the instrumentation ....

Horners score elevated TASM 1 ..... It was the first time since walking out of the cinema in 5-10yrs where I had the theme stuck in my head for weeks ...... and I loved that...... music and images blended together

I do agree that Zimmer is a gimmick and a Fad...... his music will not be remembered in 20yrs time yet music written by Williams... Goldsmith,John Barry and others that I have not mentioned will live on for decades to come..... Just my opinion..... ;)

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OK, and here we have another one... Much sarcasm, very irony. Second question: why are you trying prove it to people, who like his music anyways?

Mr. rocklegend, taking the fact that you've been involved in music business for many years I guess that you are a grown man, probably a successful music editor or something... So why the hell you spend your time posting "Zimmer is shit" stuff on the forum, like some sort of angry teenager, pissed off and just trying to get others pissed?


I�ll reiterate ...... Zimmer�s music is shite.... it doesn�t serve the film imo.... it�s nothing more that soundscapes which is elevated to god like status by Fanboys ;)

Once again, apologies for posting this thread in the wrong forum. If someone knows how to move it to the correct forum, that would be great. :)

You could try contacting a mod about it; on the other hand, the thread seems to be doing really well here, and I'm not bothered that it's in the wrong section. Your choice, I suppose.

Yeah I agree .... the music for Peter and Gwen is beautiful.... the chords and melody was written by Pharall Williams .... Zimmer just added the instrumentation ....

I actually don't really like Pharrell's song with that chord progression. It doesn't really do anything for me. What Zimmer did with it, however, was pure magic. So Pharrell isn't really responsible for the beautiful cues with Peter and Gwen. He may have thought up the chord progression, but that is just the first step to a beautiful piece of music.


I do agree that Zimmer is a gimmick and a Fad...... his music will not be remembered in 20yrs time yet music written by Williams... Goldsmith,John Barry and others that I have not mentioned will live on for decades to come..... Just my opinion..... ;)

You agree with yourself. I did not say that Zimmer is a gimmick and a fad - I was quoting you. And we know it's your opinion. We know all too well.


I�ll reiterate ...... Zimmer�s music is shite.... it doesn�t serve the film imo.... it�s nothing more that soundscapes which is elevated to god like status by Fanboys ;)

Oh, shut up. I really am tired of hearing the same thing from you over and over again. I thought you were done with this thread anyway??

Just listen to this and then tell me that Zimmer's music doesn't serve the film it's written for. Then tell me that Zimmer's music is nothing more than "sh*t soundscapes".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Lm4ue3Fbc

Listen to the whole track with an open mind - it's only 3 minutes long.

i think there s a most useful way to waste space on the internet than using useless angry people talk, so dont bother reply to him sullivan we should instead find a way to get the complete score

My own two pfennig: Zimmer comes across in interviews as a decent sort. He's certainly talented. But like any composer who puts out as much as he does, he can fall back on formula.

And it seems clear to me that his outsized influence on the field has been baleful. History will probably not thank us for producing him.

we should instead find a way to get the complete score

Indeed so... who knows what's around the corner? This place is full of surprises.

I think the cues I want most are the two opening cues.

"There He Is" is in the end credits somewhere, isn't it? Anybody know why it's called "There He Is" on the OST? Is it a quote from the film? I can't think what.

I think the cues I want most are the two opening cues.

Seriously? How about the film mix of The Rest of My Life?

Seriously? How about the film mix of The Rest of My Life?

That's definitely my favorite cue... I was pretty annoyed when it was altered for the soundtrack.

I don't think this will leak for a while :(

That's definitely my favorite cue... I was pretty annoyed when it was altered for the soundtrack.

It's amazing how much of a difference vocals can have on just 1 cue, isn't it? For MoS, the vocals were removed from the film mix of Flight and there's added strings. For TASM2, there's vocals added and that seems to be the No Time for Caution of the score.

I don't think this will leak for a while :(

Too bad. :(

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A better score, another composer, a different musical approach would not have improved TASM2. The script is the foundation and if the foundation is flawed then so is the rest of the structure. The average moviegoer might not know about what goes into telling a good story but often they know it when they see it. (Of course there are those head scratching anomalies like the Transformers series which succeed despite being written in crayon on used adult diapers.)

And they've seen better on TV or cable. GoT, Hannibal, Fargo, True Detective, Walking Dead, Penny Dreadful, etc ... People watch these and other programs and they get something out of them, something that lasts after they've turned off the TV. And if its the superhero genre, look at what preceded TASM2: Captain America: The Winter Soldier. That's how you do superheroes. (That and of course, GoTG.) CA:TWS had something to say, it was more than just guys in long underwear beating the crap out of one another. TASM2 said nothing except it was a naked money grab and audiences got that. GoTG was the only movie in 2014, so far, to crack $300 million. That was due to repeat business which I doubt TASM2 enjoyed.

I would not be surprised if TASM3 never hits the screen because right now there's little to no excitement for another installment.

A better score, another composer, a different musical approach would not have improved TASM2

I feel the same way about TASM. I don't like Horner's score to begin with (and I love Horner), but that's not what made me hate the film so much. I don't know what it is about the film, I just hated it. I think it's probably the combination of cheesy effects, Spidey's awful costume, the fact that it was a reboot after only 5 years (4 if you count from when they started filming), and Horner's score. I think that sums it up. I never had any interest in it whatsoever to begin with, I only saw it so I could see TASM2 which I liked way better.

Seriously? How about the film mix of The Rest of My Life?


It's amazing how much of a difference vocals can have on just 1 cue, isn't it? ... For TASM2, there's vocals added...


I just want to add that personally I think that the whole structure of the film version is much more delicate. Not just vocals, but everything - the way strings start to play when Peter realises that this is it... I see a lot that people point out only the vocals, but would anyone agree with me that it's not the only thing nice about this cue? :)

I think I need to bring myself to re-watch that scene just to listen to the film version! It is such an emotionally powerful scene and Garfield's acting is so superb. The score just seeps through subconsciously, which is an indication of just how good the music actually is - it adds so much to the scene. But I just have to bring myself to re-watch it. Time for the tissue box to come out again. *Takes deep breath*

I've seen TASM 2 once, and that was months ago - when the film first hit as a digital release (never saw it theatrically).

After all this time and even after all this talk, I still have no desire to watch it a second time. It was big, it was very loud, and it was at times fun, but there's nothing there that makes me think of revisiting it.

The first film...it was that Horner was scoring it (after knowing he had absolutely no interest in these kinds of movies) that made me sit up and notice. Prior to that I was totally against the idea of the film. Leaving that out for a moment, I thought the film was pointless (as a reboot) but still enjoyable. It had something to say about this guy Parker, and even though some things were clearly taken out (the origin / father subplot) I liked that it was down-to-earth (for the most part) and it's a film I've never had trouble revisiting. I bought it on Blu-ray (3D, even though the 3D itself was so subtle it might as well have been shot in 2D) without seeing the film theatrically and never regretted that. I went in only giving a crap because of the score, which I heard obviously long before I saw the film (film came out on Blu-ray on November, I heard the score in July) but ended up staying because I actually enjoyed the film itself.

That's why I wanted to see the sequel, regardless of whether Horner was involved (though let down that he wasn't) because I wanted to see this version of the story continue.

I've seen TASM 2 once, and that was months ago - when the film first hit as a digital release (never saw it theatrically).

After all this time and even after all this talk, I still have no desire to watch it a second time. It was big, it was very loud, and it was at times fun, but there's nothing there that makes me think of revisiting it.

The first film...it was that Horner was scoring it (after knowing he had absolutely no interest in these kinds of movies) that made me sit up and notice. Prior to that I was totally against the idea of the film. Leaving that out for a moment, I thought the film was pointless (as a reboot) but still enjoyable. It had something to say about this guy Parker, and even though some things were clearly taken out (the origin / father subplot) I liked that it was down-to-earth (for the most part) and it's a film I've never had trouble revisiting. I bought it on Blu-ray (3D, even though the 3D itself was so subtle it might as well have been shot in 2D) without seeing the film theatrically and never regretted that. I went in only giving a crap because of the score, which I heard obviously long before I saw the film (film came out on Blu-ray on November, I heard the score in July) but ended up staying because I actually enjoyed the film itself.

That's why I wanted to see the sequel, regardless of whether Horner was involved (though let down that he wasn't) because I wanted to see this version of the story continue.

The question is: would you be interested in seeing TASM 3? Also, who would you like to see score it?

Personally, I'd go and see TASM 3 on principle because I enjoyed the first two so much. As to the composer... I'm torn between Horner and Zimmer. Maybe a joint effort?! I'm sure those two could work magic together!

Bring back Horner and let Webb do his own thing. Sony did the same with Raimi by putting Venom in Spider-Man 3, and he intentionally ruined the film.

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The question is: would you be interested in seeing TASM 3? Also, who would you like to see score it?

Personally, I'd go and see TASM 3 on principle because I enjoyed the first two so much. As to the composer... I'm torn between Horner and Zimmer. Maybe a joint effort?! I'm sure those two could work magic together!

From what I've heard about how Sony wants to do some "Sinister Six" movie and after all their meddling, that more than anything else has me torn on wanting to see a third film.

The Horner Spider-Man theme is easily my favorite element of either score, and Zimmer's take on similar music (such as the quieter piano-based cues) was so similar Horner's could have been just re-arranged and I personally would've had a perfect sequel score, rather than a sort-of alternate take on things. That's what really bugged me about the sequel score. Those elements were so closely related they didn't have to abandon what Horner established. The remaining elements (Electro being the biggest) could've been kept in and it all would have been fine. But that's my preference. I really just wanted to hear Horner's theme again.

For a third film, really after everything I don't care who scores it. I have a complete Horner Spider-Man score in flawless lossless quality, customized just the way I want it, the Zimmer score is good on its own but it would be nice to get a complete version of that as well. We have these scores and no third film can take away from them. Maybe add to them, who knows? I just know I'm not as eager to see whatever they do next given everything. Especially if Spider-Man looks like this in three more years:



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JHFan, is it true that Horner didn't like to score TASM, so he was actually happy to never return? Because I've seen so many rumours regarding the change of composers that I just don't know what's true and what's not. Personally, I like the continuity, so I don't find it very exciting when the composer is changed in any series. For TASM3 I would be glad to hear both Zimmer and Horner equally.

The only reason Horner did not like working on the film was because there were all those producers and studio people all trying to have their say on what the score should be, when really it was supposed to be (traditionally) what the director wanted the score to be. Horner signed on for Webb, Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy, not 8 other people who all wanted to have their say at once. Also he didn't like that they were overriding Marc Webb (director) because they had their own opinions on what the film itself should be.

The thing is, why Sony is desperately wanting to ruin Spider-Man? Not just with Spider-Man 3, and the Webb films. There was a Spider-Man 4 script on works, which it was terrible. Peter was supposed to break up with MJ after going after her for 3 films, and dates with the daughter of the new villain (the Vulture, who was supposed to be played by John Malkovich). Spider-Man defeats him and tells his daughter and break up.

People says that DC and Nolan seems to be ashamed of doing superhero films, but it's actually Sony who seems to be afraid of doing Spider-Man. Same goes with Fox and their terrible adaptations from the past 15 years (it's a miracle that books like The Maze Runner and The Fault In Our Stars).

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The question is: would you be interested in seeing TASM 3? Also, who would you like to see score it?

Personally, I'd go and see TASM 3 on principle because I enjoyed the first two so much. As to the composer... I'm torn between Horner and Zimmer. Maybe a joint effort?! I'm sure those two could work magic together!

I loved Raimi 3 Spidey Films.... even the third.... I went and Saw TASM 1 and 2 in the cinema..... both films were dreadful imo..... Webbs movies has Sony�s hands all over them.... the editing and story is so jarring you know it wasn�t the directors vision.... Sony went chasing the billion dollars and gor slapped instead.... TASM 2 from what I understand is the lowest grossing of all Spider-Man films... I personally don�t think there will be a third.... I have heard from a very good source that Sony are planning on rebooting Spider-Man for a third time.... please god help us

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Man... I knew there had to be quite a story behind all that. Thanks so much for the info. :) And now I see - it really sucks that people who don't really CREATE art, but just trying to SELL it have that much influence (on directors, composers, etc...)

From I understand also it was the movie that put Horner into semi-retirement .... he didn�t like Sony dictating the music also .....

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Comic books does it all the time and nobody complains.

From I understand also it was the movie that put Horner into semi-retirement .... he didn�t like Sony dictating the music also .....

No, Horner has been busy writing his double concerto "Pas de Deux", which premiered in mid-November. It will be released on CD some time around May.

Horner has soured on scoring bigger movies because

A) he's completely over action music scoring. It does nothing for him anymore at all. That's why he often says the big action stuff "takes care of itself". Lizard fighting Spider-Man? Takes care of itself. It's big and impressive and does its job as action scenes are supposed to and same for the music. The occasionally awkward nature of Gwen and Peter's flirtation? That's where he can put some heart into it. That's what he goes for.

B) it's the state of the industry now that there are so many people involved that have nothing to do with the filmmaker's intentions - all those studio people and whatnot. What happened on Spider-Man happens all the time now. It's the new normal. It was not a unique situation by any means.

C) He prefers to do movies with newer directors, or other people he just has a good personal relationship with.

Re-watched the last half hour of the film again last night. *sniff sniff*

I can see why you all want the film version of "The Rest of My Life" - it is beautiful! And as abryus said, it's not just the vocals, but the strings as well.

I was listening to the OST in my chronological order again today, and I think it's a similar situation with "Look At Me" as with "Sum Total" - the ending of both tracks is a different arrangement in the film.

Here's an interesting article (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=112098) (I don't think it's been posted here yet).

It seems like Horner signed on to score The Amazing Spider-Man since he liked Webb, the director. But when he learned that the producers were meddling with ASM2 too much, and Webb became less involved, he said he backed out of the sequel because it looked like it was going to be terrible.

I have to agree with him. ASM2 feels like it was written by three or four different people; that's why you have the inexplicable hidden train base, the unnecessary opening with Peter's parents, etc. I guess Horner was worried that his score would end up being muddied like the film was, what with all the different producers trying to make the film into what each individual wanted it to be.

It was written by Orci and Kurtzman. However, the film does suffer as a result of its editing, though I feel no amount of editing could have saved Max Dillon's character as it was flawed from the start - they should have gone the route of the comics and had him as just an unassuming, normal guy (IE not crazy obsessive) who got his powers and chose to use them to commit crimes.

Here's an interesting article (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=112098) (I don't think it's been posted here yet).

Beat ya to it a few pages back:

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/amazing-spider-man-2-score-discussion-thread-182925/4.html#post2834791


CBM just got their little extract from the full interview I linked, only since I have the original unedited version, that's what I quoted in full regarding the film.

I very much doubt it... but is ASM2 getting nominated for anything this year?

I very much doubt it... but is ASM2 getting nominated for anything this year?



Maybe for the Razzies with Zimmer winning for Worst Score ;)

Oh shush you.

Ok, I've finalised my chronological OST order. This is the definitive chronological listing. Take it from a perfectionist.


There He Is (Cue most similar to opening cue)
I�m Spider-Man (Spidey Logo / Flying)
Cold War (Plutonium Truck Chase Pt.1)
No Place Like Home (Gwen�s Speech/Plutonium Truck Chase Pt. 2)
Harry's Suite (Material most similar to the cue when Harry sees Norman)
Look At Me (Max stays behind/Becoming Electro)
You Need Me (Peter and Harry meet)
Song For Zula (Date Pt.1)
I Chose You (Date Pt.2 [Ice Cream])
My Enemy (Times Square Battle)
You�re My Boy (Aunt May tells Peter)
I�m Moving To England (Last Interview at Oxford)
Special Project (Harry discovers Oscorp's secrets)
I Need To Know (Roosevelt Station)
Sum Total (Harry Transformation)
We�re Best Friends (Peter and Gwen on the Bridge)
So Much Anger (Electro at the Power Grid)
Still Crazy (Electro Showdown Pt.1)
I�m Electro (Electrocuting Spider-Man [Ends when Gwen hits Electro with the Police car])
I�m Goblin (Harry takes Gwen / Clocktower Showdown)
Let Her Go (Gwen Falls)
The Rest of My Life (Gwen's Death/Graveside Montage)
Ground Rules (Aunt May and the Box)
You�re That Spider Guy (Gwen�s Speech / Rhino Showdown)
It�s On Again (End Credits)
Honest (End Credits)


I haven't included "The Electro Suite", as it's not a specific cue and as far as I can make out it's just more of the same Electro material rehashed into a suite. Nothing new. What do you guys think about including "Harry's Suite"? It was a difficult choice, as it's not a specific cue, and threatens to upset the flow of the story. But it's the closest we've got to that particular cue.

Also, in an identical situation to "Till Kingdom Come" from TASM, "Gone, Gone, Gone" by Phillip Phillips was annoyingly not included on the ASM2 OST. It should be inserted between "My Enemy" and "You're My Boy".

Let me know what you think. Unless all you have to say is "Zimmer is sh*t."

Ok, I've finalised my chronological OST order. This is the definitive chronological listing. Take it from a perfectionist.


There He Is (Cue most similar to opening cue)
I’m Spider-Man (Spidey Logo / Flying)
Cold War (Plutonium Truck Chase Pt.1)
No Place Like Home (Gwen’s Speech/Plutonium Truck Chase Pt. 2)
Harry's Suite (Material most similar to the cue when Harry sees Norman)
Look At Me (Max stays behind/Becoming Electro)
You Need Me (Peter and Harry meet)
Song For Zula (Date Pt.1)
I Chose You (Date Pt.2 [Ice Cream])
My Enemy (Times Square Battle)
You’re My Boy (Aunt May tells Peter)
I’m Moving To England (Last Interview at Oxford)
Special Project (Harry discovers Oscorp's secrets)
I Need To Know (Roosevelt Station)
Sum Total (Harry Transformation)
We’re Best Friends (Peter and Gwen on the Bridge)
So Much Anger (Electro at the Power Grid)
Still Crazy (Electro Showdown Pt.1)
I’m Electro (Electrocuting Spider-Man [Ends when Gwen hits Electro with the Police car])
I’m Goblin (Harry takes Gwen / Clocktower Showdown)
Let Her Go (Gwen Falls)
The Rest of My Life (Gwen's Death/Graveside Montage)
Ground Rules (Aunt May and the Box)
You’re That Spider Guy (Gwen’s Speech / Rhino Showdown)
It’s On Again (End Credits)
Honest (End Credits)


I haven't included "The Electro Suite", as it's not a specific cue and as far as I can make out it's just more of the same Electro material rehashed into a suite. Nothing new. What do you guys think about including "Harry's Suite"? It was a difficult choice, as it's not a specific cue, and threatens to upset the flow of the story. But it's the closest we've got to that particular cue.

Also, in an identical situation to "Till Kingdom Come" from TASM, "Gone, Gone, Gone" by Phillip Phillips was annoyingly not included on the ASM2 OST. It should be inserted between "My Enemy" and "You're My Boy".

Let me know what you think. Unless all you have to say is "Zimmer is sh*t."

Is that much different than what I uploaded..... just curious

Is that much different than what I uploaded..... just curious

I have no idea. Post your tracklisting here and let's compare it.

01 There He Is / I�m Spider-Man
02 Cold War / No Place Like Home
03 Ground Rules / Look At Me
04 You Need Me / So Much Anger
05 My Enemy
06 I'm Moving To England
07 You're My Boy / I Need To Know
08 Special Project / Sum Total
09 We're Best Friends / Still Crazy
10 I Chose You
11 I'm Electro / I'm Goblin
12 Let Her Go
13 The Rest Of My Life / You�re That Spider Guy

I didn�t add the songs... it just ruins that flow of the score

01 There He Is / I�m Spider-Man
02 Cold War / No Place Like Home
03 Ground Rules / Look At Me
04 You Need Me / So Much Anger
05 My Enemy
06 I'm Moving To England
07 You're My Boy / I Need To Know
08 Special Project / Sum Total
09 We're Best Friends / Still Crazy
10 I Chose You
11 I'm Electro / I'm Goblin
12 Let Her Go
13 The Rest Of My Life / You�re That Spider Guy

I didn�t add the songs... it just ruins that flow of the score

Your list has several errors...

"Ground Rules" doesn't play at the graduation scene, like many people (including you) seem to think. It plays right at the end of the film between "The Rest of My Life" and "You're That Spider Guy".

"So Much Anger" does not play after "You Need Me". It plays near the end of the film after "We're Best Friends" when Electro shuts down the power grid and Spidey and Gwen magnetise Peter's web shooters.

"I'm Moving to England" plays after "You're My Boy", not before.

"Special Project" plays before "I Need to Know", not after.

"I Chose You" does not play in the middle of the final Electro fight. It plays before the Times Square battle, when Gwen tells Peter that she's moving to England.


Not counting "Gone, Gone, Gone", the only song that fits in the score before the end credits is "Song For Zula", which I think goes wonderfully with the score. I also think "Gone, Gone, Gone" fits in very well with the score. It's all about the story to me, and if that's where the song is in the film, that's where it should be on the soundtrack.

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By the way, as a unashamed hater of this score, you seem to be showing a lot of interest in it. Even going to the lengths of trying to arrange a chronological order for the OST... for a score you hate??

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^^ Tyler's name seems to be on everything that members of RCP aren't on nowadays.

I watched a recent movie he did, "Into The Storm". A movie that is literally nothing but eye and ear candy...a great movie to show off your surround system basically. Yes I like movies like that from time to time when I'm bored and want something to just sit and relax in front of. Anyway, I could not tell you a thing about Tyler's score other than it had a lot of drums in it. Beyond that I couldn't identify it from any other Tyler score I've heard in a film (I've never listened to any of his scores apart from their films). The music was completely anonymous, as are so many scores I hear in movies now. Lots of notes, but no identifiable melodies. The only piece of music I can remember of his, really because it was so short and used so often, was the title theme to that 2011 Fox dinosaur show "Terra Nova".

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Thought I'd stick these here, seeing as they're ASM2. And made by me. :)

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Comic books does it all the time and nobody complains.

It doesn't cost $250 million to reboot a comic.

It doesn't cost $250 million to reboot a comic.

That's true. And to be honest I think you'll find that the large proportion of people who watch the films have never read the comics. I certainly haven't. A different Spider-Man movie franchise would just do my head in. Here's what I'd like to see happen...

Sony sell the rights to Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios. Marvel then continue The Amazing Spider-Man franchise with Andrew Garfield, keeping Marc Webb in to direct ASM3. Then Marvel can incorporate Spidey into The Avengers if they can think of a way. If it's too complicated, I'm really not that bothered if Peter Parker stays solo in the Amazing universe.

That's true. And to be honest I think you'll find that the large proportion of people who watch the films have never read the comics. I certainly haven't. A different Spider-Man movie franchise would just do my head in. Here's what I'd like to see happen...

Sony sell the rights to Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios. Marvel then continue The Amazing Spider-Man franchise with Andrew Garfield, keeping Marc Webb in to direct ASM3. Then Marvel can incorporate Spidey into The Avengers if they can think of a way. If it's too complicated, I'm really not that bothered if Peter Parker stays solo in the Amazing universe.

You're right about people who have read the comics being a big part of the audience. We pretty much make up 9.99% of a movie going audience, even for comic book films.

As of right now, Sony will NEVER sell the rights back. That's one of the few franchises they have that they can cling to before going bankrupt.

You're right about people who have read the comics being a big part of the audience. We pretty much make up 9.99% of a movie going audience, even for comic book films.

As of right now, Sony will NEVER sell the rights back. That's one of the few franchises they have that they can cling to before going bankrupt.

Don't you mean "haven't read the comics"?

Yeah, but it would seem Sony made a rather big loss on ASM2. Apparently Marvel/Disney made more on Spider-Man merchandise than Sony did profits for the actual film.

Don't you mean "haven't read the comics"?

Yeah, but it would seem Sony made a rather big loss on ASM2. Apparently Marvel/Disney made more on Spider-Man merchandise than Sony did profits for the actual film.

Yeah. Sorry. Meant to put that in there! :P

As hack3rman said, Spider-Man is one of Sony's biggest properties at the moment. If comic book movies weren't "the big thing" right now, I wouldn't be surprised if Sony were to just give up and sent the rights back to Disney after their big loss with ASM2. But since comic book movies are HUGE right now, to the point where a movie about a talking raccoon and his tree friend film can make millions, Sony is definitely trying to milk the franchise as much as they can (remember they're making a Sinister Six and a Venom movie?).

You guys mentioned the comics - if there is one compliment I can give ASM2, it's that it really seemed to evoke that feeling of the old comics. I've always thought of Spider-Man as being more of a romance comic (well, at least the older comics from the 70s and 80s), and the ASM films do a great job of putting Peter's love life front and center before his super-power.

Good News!!!

Venom Or Carnage Could Be Main Villain In SPIDER-MAN - SINISTER SIX Team-Up Film (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/news/?a=112303)



Venom Or Carnage Could Be Main Villain In SPIDER-MAN - SINISTER SIX Team-Up Film

More leaked emails from Sony have surfaced online and these provide details for their Spider-Man franchise, whether the Marvel deal happens or not. If it's the latter, future films could include Ultimate Venom, Sinister Six and possibly Carnage.

The "Sony Hack" continues to produce tantalizing behind-the-scenes information regarding Sony's Spider-Man franchise. The latest emails to leak online involve Spider-Man film producer Matt Tolmach, Sony Pictures Entertainment chief Amy Pascal and Columbia Pictures president of production Michael De Luca. In it, Pascal informs De Luca that Tolmach would like to introduce Venom into the Spider-Man franchise, but doesn't think the character could support a film on his own. He would rather introduce Venom in the Sinister Six film. And that film will feature Spidey teaming up with the Sinister Six to take down an even bigger threat. Who could be more dangerous than the Sinister Six? Tolmach would like the main villain to be either Carnage or Venom. If it is the latter, Spider-Man will wear his black suit in the film. He'll remove it when he can't handle being teased about the look by members of the Sinister Six. I kid you not. And of course, whoever finds Spidey's discarded suit will then become ... VENOM!

By the way, kudos to Badass Digest for accurately reporting most of this information near the beginning of October, a week before this leaked email was produced.

In the follow up email, De Luca explained to Pascal all of the options their Spider-Man franchise had in front of them at that time. He brings up the previously-confirmed deal Marvel Studios offered Sony, which would allow Spider-Man to join the Marvel cinematic universe. To be more specific, Spider-Man would make a cameo in Captain America: Civil War. If the deal was agreed upon, De Luca reports that Marvel would introduce A BRAND NEW SPIDER-MAN. See you later, Andrew Garfield. De Luca seems gung-ho about the cameo. He thinks it could spark new interest in Spidey. Fans would look forward to Spidey's next film without Sony having to make a Sinister Six film just to put fannies in the seats. Either way, De Luca would be happy with whatever direction Marvel president Kevin Feige chose for the Webhead.

That's all based on the deal with Marvel actually happening, but as of right now we know it hasn't, and De Luca addressed that grim possibility as well. Wisely, De Luca proposed another Spider-Man reboot, but this time, it won't spend a lot of its time on Spidey's origin or his parents like The Amazing Spider-Man films did. De Luca also thinks Venom, Carnage and Hobgoblin would be nice additions to a reboot. He especially likes Ultimate Venom because his suit isn't formed from an alien symbiote. He'd like to explore the modern Spider-Man comic book stories written by Michael Bendis, Michael Strascynski and Brain K. Vaughn.

No! No!! Please not another reboot!!!

The Sony hack proved what most of us reading this forum guessed: Sony execs have absolutely no idea what to do with ASM. (If they did, why would they reboot the franchise starting with another origin story? James Cameron, who at one point was close to directing Spider-Man, had the right idea: start the movie with Peter already as Spider-Man. Forget the origin stories. Even Marvel has said "No M�s" to any more origin stories.)

Now read this: MARVELOUS DA7E 75: The Spider-Man/Marvel Deal is Very Much Alive! ? Latino-Review.com (http://www.latino-review.com/news/marvelous-da7e-75-the-spider-manmarvel-deal-is-very-much-alive)

At the end of the above article the writer speculates on action Sony could take, and I've thought the same thing, to re-engergize interest in Spider-Man in one fell swoop or swell foop:

In January Joss Whedon is doing reshoots for AOU. Rumor has it will be for the post credit sequence and in that sequence will be the seeds for the Civil War storyline for the MCU. In particular: the audience might see Captain America's version of the Avengers. (The Civil War results from the fallout of AOU and Tony and Steve's parting of the ways on the future of the Avengers.)

My inner geek would love to see this: Cap's Avengers, less cosmic, more street level: so the coda reveals his team - and mind you this is the product of my caffeine drenched, so-called-mind: Falcon, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Black Widow, Black Panther, Ant Man and swinging in at the coda's end: Spider-Man.)

The audience would lose their collective minds and Spidey would be back on track.

We can dream.

P.S.

So much for Spidey at the end of AOU, apparently.

http://www.latino-review.com/news/marvel-wants-a-fresh-start-with-spider-man-without-andrew-garfield

Latino Review isn't exactly a reliabe source, you know.

True enough although even a blind squirrel finds a nut on occasion. Sony holds a meeting in January and they will discuss ASM and its future. (Sony Japan is none too pleased with how Sony Pictures has handled ASM and they are the bosses with the bucks.)

We'll have to wait until next year to learn what Spidey's future holds. I say to Sony: give creative control back to Marvel and take a percentage of the box office, TV and merchandise. Better half a good loaf then the whole of a rapidly diminishing one.

The recording sessions or a fairly good DVD quality complete score rip would be a great Christmas gift for us all ;)

fairly good DVD rip

BD. :smrt:

I've been thinking a lot about this score lately.
How I wish Zimmer released a 5.1 soundtrack release like he did with Inception.
But, I guess due to him mostly having worked with 100 people on this, the licences weren't available to do so.

I'd have loved to hear Electro's cues bounce around the speakers.
Ripping the movie is simple enough. But I think the movie is too riddled with sfx in all channels that we'd have to severely compromise and take it mostly as-is from the BD.

I'm still in the process of ripping the end credits, but I just don't like the licensed music in it.
If it was all score, that'd be pure awesome.
But somehow feel they would use the lovey-dovey softcore cues more than the Electro cues.

The recording sessions or a fairly good DVD quality complete score rip would be a great Christmas gift for us all ;)

Indeed so. I'm holding out for the sessions...

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BD. :smrt:

I've been thinking a lot about this score lately.
How I wish Zimmer released a 5.1 soundtrack release like he did with Inception.
But, I guess due to him mostly having worked with 100 people on this, the licences weren't available to do so.

I'd have loved to hear Electro's cues bounce around the speakers.
Ripping the movie is simple enough. But I think the movie is too riddled with sfx in all channels that we'd have to severely compromise and take it mostly as-is from the BD.

I'm still in the process of ripping the end credits, but I just don't like the licensed music in it.
If it was all score, that'd be pure awesome.
But somehow feel they would use the lovey-dovey softcore cues more than the Electro cues.

The official Inception release was in 5.1??

Also, doesn't the ASM2 end credits mashup cue contain "There He Is"?

One of my favorite parts I truly want to hear is Hans' take on the "Itsy Bitsy Spider" cue... minus the voice and SFX.

One of my favorite parts I truly want to hear is Hans' take on the "Itsy Bitsy Spider" cue... minus the voice and SFX.

"Itsy Bitsy Spider" is actually throughout most of Electro's cues. Are you referring to the part at the power grid?

The official Inception release was in 5.1??

Not exactly.
The bonus features disc of the Inception Blu-ray had the album in 5.1 playing against a blank screen as one of the extras, minus a cue or two...don't remember what was missing though. It was turned into a DTS album shared here.To say Zimmer did it is stretching it but whatever.

Not exactly.
The bonus features disc of the Inception Blu-ray had the album in 5.1 playing against a blank screen as one of the extras, minus a cue or two...don't remember what was missing though. It was turned into a DTS album shared here.To say Zimmer did it is stretching it but whatever.

I wanna say it was missing A Half-Remembered Dream and Waiting for A Train, just like the FYC

"Itsy Bitsy Spider" is actually throughout most of Electro's cues. Are you referring to the part at the power grid?

The power grid scene, I believe.

The only cues of Inception that didn't receive a 5.1 mix were the ones that included Edith Piaf's remix version of "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien".

The opening track on the OST album "A Half-Remembered Dream" + "Waiting For A Train" weren't included on the 5.1 OST on the second OST of Inception. Probably due to licensing issues with whomever licensed Edith Piaf's music didn't agree with what Hans Zimmer was doing.
Or couldn't agree due to legal reasons.
International reasons play a huge aspect in any sales.

Probably why we only see the France Metropolitan release of Silent Hilll (2006) mastered the best from France distribution company: "Metropolitan".

Not even demos of those two tracks.
Well, outside the complete score we've seen floating here.

TASP2 with 5.1 Zimmer would be awesome.
If it wasn't the end credits.
I can do that. And do, do that.

Does anybody here specialise in DVD Rips? If so, I'd absolutely LOVE someone to do me a Christmas favour...

"Itsy Bitsy Spider" is actually throughout most of Electro's cues. Are you referring to the part at the power grid?

I've never been able to hear "Itsy Bitsy Spider" in Electro's theme. Only in the power grid scene. Where is it exactly?

I've never been able to hear "Itsy Bitsy Spider" in Electro's theme. Only in the power grid scene. Where is it exactly?

It's part of practically all of Electro's cues. But it's in the bass, usually beneath the four-note Electro guitar motif, so perhaps not so easily recognisable for most people. The first (and a very good) example on the OST (my chronologically ordered OST) is the end of "Look At Me" (the last 30 seconds when Max is electrocuted). Once you've picked it up, you'll keep hearing it throughout the score (if you're anything like me!). Another good example is the last 50 seconds of "My Enemy" (the end of the Times Square Battle). It's got a slightly different rhythm, and the notes aren't always in the exact correct order 100% of the time, but it's "Itsy Bitsy Spider" nonetheless. See if you can pick it out. :)

Check out this interview with Marc Webb about the score.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q7C1ajvEcs

At about the 2:40 mark he talks about the origin of the "Itsy" motif, and uses the Times Square Battle scene as his example.

I have never been able to hear it, either. In the end when Spider-Man says "I hate this song", I was like what is he talking about

I have never been able to hear it, either. In the end when Spider-Man says "I hate this song", I was like what is he talking about

Read my post above and then listen again. ;)

I have never been able to hear it, either. In the end when Spider-Man says "I hate this song", I was like what is he talking about

the dubstep version of itsy bitsy spider x3 XD

the dubstep version of itsy bitsy spider x3 XD

x3?

It's part of practically all of Electro's cues. But it's in the bass, usually beneath the four-note Electro guitar motif, so perhaps not so easily recognisable for most people. The first (and a very good) example on the OST (my chronologically ordered OST) is the end of "Look At Me" (the last 30 seconds when Max is electrocuted). Once you've picked it up, you'll keep hearing it throughout the score (if you're anything like me!). Another good example is the last 50 seconds of "My Enemy" (the end of the Times Square Battle). It's got a slightly different rhythm, and the notes aren't always in the exact correct order 100% of the time, but it's "Itsy Bitsy Spider" nonetheless. See if you can pick it out. :)

Check out this interview with Marc Webb about the score.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q7C1ajvEcs

At about the 2:40 mark he talks about the origin of the "Itsy" motif, and uses the Times Square Battle scene as his example.

Haha I'm usually great with picking up on motifs but this time around it completely went over my head :P

Speaking of Electro, I'm curious as to the lyrics at the end of his suite, and the little snippet at 0:12 in "Still Crazy". In the latter it sounds like he is saying "Kill Bitches"

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Also, watching that video, I can definitely hear all of the Suspiria inspiration, especially in the Oscorp theme.

Haha I'm usually great with picking up on motifs but this time around it completely went over my head :P

Speaking of Electro, I'm curious as to the lyrics at the end of his suite, and the little snippet at 0:12 in "Still Crazy". In the latter it sounds like he is saying "Kill Bitches"

Haha, it's very clever, in't it?

Do you mean the lyrics right at the end, as in the little recording session snippet? If so, I can't make them out either. :P

And I've no idea if it's "Kill bitches" - but I highly doubt it!

The idea of having the score reflect what's going on in Electro's mind was a good one, undermined however, by the character being so underwritten and at the same time overwrought.

Haha, it's very clever, in't it?

Do you mean the lyrics right at the end, as in the little recording session snippet? If so, I can't make them out either. :P

And I've no idea if it's "Kill bitches" - but I highly doubt it!

I have a lot more appreciation for this score. Listening to the last piece of the Electro suite and hearing that there were pages of lyrics written; I wonder if there are some unreleased demos for the 'jam sessions' the group did for Electro.

For those who want to know, listen to this piece of this scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dwhsa7LY2U

Yup, now I hear it

The problem is that you can't hear it unless you're really trying to... a valiant effort by the composers, but I don't think it worked.

The problem is that you can't hear it unless you're really trying to... a valiant effort by the composers, but I don't think it worked.

The fact that it's so hard to make out shows how well it fits with all the original material. That's an indication of how well-written it is. :)

This edit sounds really good, like no SFX at all... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrz47oZblq0 at least for the Itsy Bitsy Spider theme, which I'm talking about.

This edit sounds really good, like no SFX at all... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrz47oZblq0 at least for the Itsy Bitsy Spider theme, which I'm talking about.

So very close... Thanks for sharing this, Lockdown!

The problem is that you can't hear it unless you're really trying to... a valiant effort by the composers, but I don't think it worked.

I disagree. I thought it was very obvious in the movie, at least in the scene where Spidey comments on it. If anything, I'm baffled by how many people somehow missed the itsy bitsy spider.

I'm baffled by how many people somehow missed the itsy bitsy spider.

Because I'm deaf

You're far from the only one who couldn't hear it though.

I wonder if there are some unreleased demos for the 'jam sessions' the group did for Electro.
Yes, I believe there are.

If you are all in search for the complete score, be aware that the sony hackers want to share everything on the 24th so you might find the sessions on the web so stay tuned

They only hacked Sony Pictures. Surely they'd have to have hacked Sony Records too, which they haven't (as far as we are aware, of course).

Of course, if they have, perhaps they can also post Star Wars.

If you are all in search for the complete score, be aware that the sony hackers want to share everything on the 24th so you might find the sessions on the web so stay tuned

What the...? Where did you hear that?! And these were email/document/correspondance hacks, as far as I know, so is there any likelihood that they've managed to nab the sessions too?

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They only hacked Sony Pictures. Surely they'd have to have hacked Sony Records too, which they haven't (as far as we are aware, of course).

Of course, if they have, perhaps they can also post Star Wars.

Disney not Sony owns Star Wars.

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What the...? Where did you hear that?! And these were email/document/correspondance hacks, as far as I know, so is there any likelihood that they've managed to nab the sessions too?

The hackers leaked Fury and Annie, which gets released on Xmas. Hopefully this will impress on companies the necessity for better network security.

Disney not Sony owns Star Wars.

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The hackers leaked Fury and Annie, which gets released on Xmas. Hopefully this will impress on companies the necessity for better network security.

That's true. Both of your statements.

But have they leaked any music yet?

Not to my knowledge. Leaking music isn't as embarrassing as hacked personal emails or movies that still are or will be in the theaters.

Disney not Sony owns Star Wars.

That may be true, but last I checked, Sony still has the publishing rights to all six of the previous films' scores. Chances are they have the sessions as well as the CD masters.

That may be true, but last I checked, Sony still has the publishing rights to all six of the previous films' scores. Chances are they have the sessions as well as the CD masters.

With a year to go until Star Wars hits theaters the question is, "Has John Williams finished the score?" Scoring a film is usually done when the director has a temp edit or completed edit in the can or these days in the hard drive. That way the conductor can time the music to the action. (Or in the case of ET Spielberg recut the bike chase scene to match Williams' music.) Principal photography wrapped about a month ago so I doubt Abrams has even a temp edit done. Plus with all the interest in the next Star Wars if Williams had gone into the studio to record the score that would be the headline on every fan website and so far nothing. (Williams and his music are as much of an event as the movie.)

I wouldn't be surprised if Disney now owns the music to this new cycle of films. (Disney, despite its family friendly image, does not play games. They are harder and tougher than coffin nails.)

With a year to go until Star Wars hits theaters the question is, "Has John Williams finished the score?" Scoring a film is usually done when the director has a temp edit or completed edit in the can or these days in the hard drive. That way the conductor can time the music to the action. (Or in the case of ET Spielberg recut the bike chase scene to match Williams' music.) Principal photography wrapped about a month ago so I doubt Abrams has even a temp edit done. Plus with all the interest in the next Star Wars if Williams had gone into the studio to record the score that would be the headline on every fan website and so far nothing. (Williams and his music are as much of an event as the movie.)

I wouldn't be surprised if Disney now owns the music to this new cycle of films. (Disney, despite its family friendly image, does not play games. They are harder and tougher than coffin nails.)

More than likely that they do and Episode VII's OST will be published under Buena Vista Records.

Really hoping for a leak or some better quality DVD Rip with minor sfx. Fingers crossed !

...not just rip off Aaron Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man which Zimmer did .... once you educate yourself and listen to good music you will find that there�s nothing behind Hans Zimmer than hype and Fanboys .... he�s is as unoriginal as they come

Well, you could argue that Alan Silvestri did the same with Captain America's(First Avenger) Main title as well, but maybe that's just how the "lonely soldier" theme works? It worked for Captain America, as well as for TASM2. In my ears, the trumpets and the way these kinds of songs builds up, it sounds like patriotism, military-ish and lonely soldier-ish. And it's a theme that many people can relate to.

Here is another good example of similar usage of certain patterns in songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAvfs94TOyA
Vangelis - Introduction (from the movie Alexander)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecOLAexWmL4
Harry Gregson-Williams - Opening Titles (Prometheus)

Well, you could argue that Alan Silvestri did the same with Captain America's(First Avenger) Main title as well, but maybe that's just how the "lonely soldier" theme works? It worked for Captain America, as well as for TASM2. In my ears, the trumpets and the way these kinds of songs builds up, it sounds like patriotism, military-ish and lonely soldier-ish. And it's a theme that many people can relate to.

Here is another good example of similar usage of certain patterns in songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAvfs94TOyA
Vangelis - Introduction (from the movie Alexander)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecOLAexWmL4
Harry Gregson-Williams - Opening Titles (Prometheus)

Exactly. :)

Also, it's kinda the superhero thing, since Williams' Superman...

Thought I'd stick these here, seeing as they're ASM2. And made by me. :)

Version 1

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Version 2

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Version 3

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I'll be using the third one for my own edit, love it! Also, thanks for putting up the chronological order. Weird how pretty much nobody has been able to get it right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewgg_doYo_o&list=UUZl5YbBwH58qAdkHGAo-s_Q

Made a film edit for "The Rest Of My Life" using a good source for the vocals, edited in the harmonic string intro just to complete it

Nice job! That's a lovely edit you've made there.

I'll be using the third one for my own edit, love it! Also, thanks for putting up the chronological order. Weird how pretty much nobody has been able to get it right!

Glad you appreciate my efforts on the cover design and chronological track listing! :D

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewgg_doYo_o&list=UUZl5YbBwH58qAdkHGAo-s_Q

Made a film edit for "The Rest Of My Life" using a good source for the vocals, edited in the harmonic string intro just to complete it

Nice work! Although there was a bit in the middle that sounded a little messy. Also, I could barely hear the vocals. But it was lovely hearing the intro as it is in the film. So heart-wrenchingly sad...

Yeah I will probably do multiple versions of it until I think it's perfect, but mostly i just wanted to get the blueprint down for merging it with the album version of "The Rest Of My Life" which I think I've finished now. I just need to probably adjust the middle part's volume to hear the vocals a bit better. For some reason it sounded alright at the time

Yeah I will probably do multiple versions of it until I think it's perfect, but mostly i just wanted to get the blueprint down for merging it with the album version of "The Rest Of My Life" which I think I've finished now. I just need to probably adjust the middle part's volume to hear the vocals a bit better. For some reason it sounded alright at the time

Are you using the 5.1 stereo channels? If so, could you do a version without the album version at all? Just by removing the sound effects channel (channel 3)? Apart from Peter's words at the beginning, there's no dialogue at all, so it should make a fairly clean rip.

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Are you using the 5.1 stereo channels? If so, could you do a version without the album version at all? Just by removing the sound effects channel (channel 3)? Apart from Peter's words at the beginning, there's no dialogue at all, so it should make a fairly clean rip.


I second this. Could you pleeeeease?

I think that's what this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVFppe-pNM) guy did.

I think that's what this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVFppe-pNM) guy did.

OMGosh that is perfect!!! Thanks for posting the link! :D

Makes me cry every time.

Guys, I'm posting some links to the unreleased score to The Amazing Spider-Man 2:
The Plane Crash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ_zIjqesE4
Spidey Montage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al6wU4ZwoW8
Max and Spider-Man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcGGEYZ4q_w
Harry and Norman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6eJMMCe91Q
Birth of Electro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmGG4yue46A
Electro's Arrival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJnAWclwkkc
My Enemy (ver 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkalA4HoUb0
My Enemy (ver 2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3clp2hS-2Q
My Enemy (ver 3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr9C0zAgnSA
Harry Finds A Secret: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjnOv6Hd6MY
Harry Needs Blood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGUlKNOG5zc
Peter Takes Care Of The Guards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb7gummQ1TU
Harry And Gwen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzgtuksqmEM
Harry and Electro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Weu9eKJhHE
Oscorp Infiltration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EthuZNzZfe0
Green Goblin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Va9my0R1Mw
Electro's Last Stand (ver 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrz47oZblq0
Electro's Last Stand (ver 2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vntMxI9o8JY
Electro's Last Stand (ver 3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeFIOnFomeQ
Sinister Six: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upEM2jrEspQ
You're That Spider Guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDGp0VkMicE
I will post more :)

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Guys, I'm posting some links to the unreleased score to The Amazing Spider-Man 2:
The Plane Crash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ_zIjqesE4
Spidey Montage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al6wU4ZwoW8
Max and Spider-Man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcGGEYZ4q_w
Harry and Norman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6eJMMCe91Q
Birth of Electro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmGG4yue46A
Electro's Arrival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJnAWclwkkc
My Enemy (ver 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkalA4HoUb0
My Enemy (ver 2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3clp2hS-2Q
My Enemy (ver 3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr9C0zAgnSA
Harry Finds A Secret: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjnOv6Hd6MY
Harry Needs Blood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGUlKNOG5zc
Peter Takes Care Of The Guards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb7gummQ1TU
Harry And Gwen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzgtuksqmEM
Harry and Electro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Weu9eKJhHE
Oscorp Infiltration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EthuZNzZfe0
Green Goblin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Va9my0R1Mw
Electro's Last Stand (ver 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrz47oZblq0
Electro's Last Stand (ver 2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vntMxI9o8JY
Electro's Last Stand (ver 3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeFIOnFomeQ
Sinister Six: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upEM2jrEspQ
You're That Spider Guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDGp0VkMicE
I will post more :)

So you're NewSuperAvenger? Nice work! There's still loads of SFX in some tracks, but it's better than nothing. How did you rip them? From 5.1?

So you're NewSuperAvenger? Nice work! There's still loads of SFX in some tracks, but it's better than nothing. How did you rip them? From 5.1?

I used Garage's BRRip for the soundtrack. Then, I used Audacity to use the left and right channels on where are the less effects are spotted.

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Here are more:
The Intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqljczMIoVc&feature=youtu.be
Break-Up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT1Lsf7QsCw&feature=youtu.be
Last Message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J7ilw_iygg&feature=youtu.be
Oscorp Infiltration (ver 2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMGaaFhcfTQ&feature=youtu.be

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'Break-Up' is the second piece after 'The Rest of My Life' I am dying for, seriously. God... Sessions... Please...

Thanks for the tracks SpiderPool ;)

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Oh, and I think we all agree that part of the thanks shall go to Garage, no matter how unwelcome his work usually is... :) By the way, SpiderPool, I came across your uploads on YouTube quite some time ago and I thought that it sounded like what Garage had ripped, but more modified. Now it makes sense ;)

Thank you very much. I have also made a playlist on the complete score on YouTube. They feature unreleased songs and the ones from the official release.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO3qAdvx7imHKh1nvknihspSKtv-ZiyHc

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The complete recording sessions better include the Comic Con music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_wVwyQ9GnA

Well, you could argue that Alan Silvestri did the same with Captain America's(First Avenger) Main title as well, but maybe that's just how the "lonely soldier" theme works? It worked for Captain America, as well as for TASM2. In my ears, the trumpets and the way these kinds of songs builds up, it sounds like patriotism, military-ish and lonely soldier-ish. And it's a theme that many people can relate to.

Here is another good example of similar usage of certain patterns in songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAvfs94TOyA
Vangelis - Introduction (from the movie Alexander)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecOLAexWmL4
Harry Gregson-Williams - Opening Titles (Prometheus)

that opening titles to prometheus is a direct lift from a track on the the River by John Williams.... I think it's called The Ancestral Home

I mixed it with the OST version of The Rest Of My Life so I could have the full mastering and it didn't sound like an obvious DVD or Bluray audio rip, plus yeah this guy already posted one without the OST version in the mix.