Just wanted to post a general discussion thread to see what people are thinking about for the movie!
I can barely contain my excitement. John Williams is a true maestro, so I see no point in doubting him.
Definitely going all out for the premiere. Gonna order a custom lightsaber and dress up :P

i am excited also. very good music hope with for john william! also good hope for not bad prequel like movie, such disney doing and marvel movies ok.

I am glad they hired williams who will give the purest sound possible unlike giacchinno who records very badly. Im affraid though that we ll get a similar story line: a good guy becoming a bad guy being defeated and redeeming.

^WHUT? Who else could take over if something happens to Williams? I mean he's 85...but seriously, he is alive, who else would they hire?
and yes, I think it will follow the timeline of the previous trilogy. I guess just watch a new hope and the phantom menace if you want to get a feel of what I think the film will be like.

Most people don't realize that Giacchino has already composed a Star Wars score. He composed and arranged the score for Star Tours II at the Disney Parks! And I thought it sounded great! If anyone was to replace John Williams for the future Star Wars films, it should be him!

From an interview I read with director JJ he said he was going to move away from the CGI extras of the newer 3 movies and use real people for everything. Expecting an old school feel to this with a new age twist of course. Looking forward to it much more than phantom menace.

The teaser releases limited this Friday

Phoenix, Arizona–Harkins, Tempe Marketplace
Los Angeles, California–AMC, Century City
Los Angeles, California–El Capitan
Irvine, California–Regal, Spectrum Irvine 21
San Francisco, California–AMC, Metreon 16
San Jose, California–Cinemark, Oakridge 20
San Diego, California–Regal, Mira Mesa 18
Toronto, Canada–CPX, Younge & Dundas
Vancouver, Canada–CPX, Riverport
Denver, Colorado–AMC, Westminster 24
Washington, D.C.–AMC, Tyson’s Corner 16
Miami, Florida–Carmike–Parisan 20
Atlanta, Georgia–Regal, Atlantic Station
Chicago, Illinois–Regal, City North
Boston, Massachusetts–AMC, Boston Commons 19
Detroit, Michigan–Cinemark, Showcase 20
Minneapolis, Minnesota–AMC, Southdale
Kansas City, Missouri–AMC, Studio 30
New York, New York–AMC, Lincoln Square 13
New York, New York–Regal, Union Square 14
Cleveland, Ohio–Cinemark 24
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania–Regal, Warrington 22
Nashville, Tennessee–Carmike,Thoroughbred 20
Knoxville, Tennessee–Regal, Pinnacle
Dallas, Texas–Cinemark, Plano 20
Houston, Texas–Regal, Marq*E Stadium 23
Austin, Texas–Alamo’s Lamar
Salt Lake City, Utah–Cinemark 24 WJ
Seattle, Washington–Regal, Thornton Place 14
Milwaulkee, Wisconsin–Marcus, Brookfield 16

I don't like the title.

The Force RE-Awakens.
:fixed: :smrt:

Well here is the official trailer! Gotta admit, I got a little emotional when a very familiar flying machine popped up ;)

Star Wars Episode VII / 7 - The Force Awakens First Official Teaser Trailer - YouTube (http://youtu.be/JyI6yh4sJZc)

While I'm a big fan of the Millennium Falcon I feel there was something wrong with it's model as seen in the teaser :(

Man, I wish I could like that trailer, but... I just can't. Everything was shaking around, and I could barely get a good look at anything. Maybe I'm just too picky.

That new lightsaber looks really cool, though.

I think that jurassic park 4 and star wars 7 will be source of complains for a whole new decade

Sweet Jesus John Williams has new music in the trailer..... The Trailer a big Meh from me but that music was incredible.... I don�t want that man to ever die.....

Yeah, it's pretty amazing that the man's 82 years old and still composing. I'm pretty interested to hear what themes Williams comes up with, or how he'll retool old ones.

Looks like total shit.

The light saber looks more like a sword now.
What's next? chain mail? saber-proof armor? knight's templar?

Looks. like. shit.

Of course all the fucking kids of today's generation love it.
cunts. all of them.

The one part of the trailer that I did find especially pleasing was the SFX. Thank God Abrams isn't trying to do his own thing with the sound effects. The X-Wing and Millenium Falcon flyby shots sound great.

I think the new lightsaber works, as long as the Sith holding it is the only one who has a saber like that, the same way Count Dooku had a curved lightsaber handle () but nobody else did. Although if everyone has a lightsaber that looks like a sword, it'll just look stupid.

Which is why I'm not sure if Abrams was the best choice for this movie...

Curved light saber didn't look nearly as dumb as trying to make the saber look like a sword with a cross guard.

Why don't they make light sabers with actual lazer sword designs? Why confine to a skinny little stick?
When the sword is drawn, why not give someone a scimitar?

The Inquisitor has a convincing sci-fi saber. That was a way better hand guard than this shit.

The shots that weren't the ships, looked like a cheap, low budget movie.
At any point when the human characters were looking back, I was expecting youtube's FreddieW to pop out and turn it all into a parody.

He should really stick to Star Trek.

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More evidence on the folly of lifelike swords for lightsabers:

Monty Python & The Holy Lightsaber (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BDO3pyavOY)

Looks like total shit.

The light saber looks more like a sword now.
What's next? chain mail? saber-proof armor? knight's templar?

Looks. like. shit.

Of course all the fucking kids of today's generation love it.
cunts. all of them.

Well I saw Star Wars in the theater in '77 and I think it looks amazing.

Looks like total shit.

The light saber looks more like a sword now.
What's next? chain mail? saber-proof armor? knight's templar?

Looks. like. shit.

Of course all the fucking kids of today's generation love it.
cunts. all of them.



personally i think it looks amazing!!! but haters gonna hate!

I'm going to smash it with a hammer!

http://31.media.tumblr.com/633284c54eb703e19852c4d17572eb63/tumblr_ms2uawfs0w1qf5hjqo6_250.gif

Curved light saber didn't look nearly as dumb as trying to make the saber look like a sword with a cross guard.


It actually makes a TON of sense. Having practiced European fencing in college and Japanese kendo for the last eight years, I can tell you from practical experience that having a hand guard at the base of your blade is absolutely imperative to prevent your enemy from just sliding his sword down your blade and cutting your hand off. (It's one of the biggest complaints I have about traditional lightsabers but they're so cool I was always willing to give it a pass / that and there ARE techniques I've learned in Japanese sword fighting where you can survive without a hand guard, you just have to be extremely good and very cautious and very very very aggressive).

THE PROBLEM with the specific design we see here is that there is an individual emitter head for each laser beam that could easily be cut off thus rendering the hand guard a mood point. A better design would have been to have one emitter just like a classic Lightsaber but then have a prism or something that splits the blade in three ways but doesn't leave a gap of any kind between the main blade laser and the little crossing lasers.

THE FORCE AWAKENS (Episode VII) Discussion *SPOILER THREAD* (Page 58) - RicOlie_2 - May 18, 2014 at 10:45 PM - originaltrilogy.com forum (http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THE-FORCE-AWAKENS-Episode-VII-Discussion-SPOILER-THREAD/post/737920/#TopicPost737920)

The light saber looks more like a sword now.

I'm not going to argue that it does look a bit daft, but as pointed out it's more than aesthetics.


saber-proof armor?

Didn't they introduce Cortosis in the EU? That's used to make saber-proof armour and weaponry (the CIS even constructed an advanced Battle Droid made of cortosis IIRC). There's also Phrik alloy, which I believe is also used to make saber-resistant armour and weapons (IE the Magnaguards' electrostaffs)


knight's templar?

In a nutshell, they beat you to it: the old Jedi Order.

To be honest, the best shots were of the X-Wings and the new stormtroopers, but the teaser did not show a lot. Most of the other effects all look unfinished. Somebody pointed out that the Guardians of the Galaxy Teaser was similar, with unfinished shots. This is why I'd prefer they had waited: the lack of polish on some of those shots and the insubstantial content of the majority of it works against it. It does have my interest piqued though, and I hope a more complete trailer comes out in the near future, but not too near.

THE FORCE AWAKENS (Episode VII) Discussion *SPOILER THREAD* (Page 58) - RicOlie_2 - May 18, 2014 at 10:45 PM - originaltrilogy.com forum (http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THE-FORCE-AWAKENS-Episode-VII-Discussion-SPOILER-THREAD/post/737920/#TopicPost737920)

See, I knew sword enthusiasts, practioners and artisans would talk about it.

Any sword without a gaurd is just asking to have your hands cut off.

But, I thought Lucas was going for something different. For 6 movies, 3 tv series, and so many games, it became an art form to fight with a lightsaber without a guard. It became something new that really WAS in a galaxy far far away.

And if saber's can be cut at the base that emits the light, then what's to stop that dinky little guard? It's so exposed.
All you see is the base of the lightsaber and barely the little light guard.

It's more or less something that was just created to draw attention and appeal to dumb people.
It's nothing elegant. It's cheap and visual antics. It's a marketing gimmick because if they throw it in the teaser, everyone will love it and will decide to go see the movie because they created an "awesome" lightsaber.

The base would have to be created out of something stronger than the light it emits.

That dude in the other forum has a better idea about "modernizing" lightsabers.
You don't make it out of something destructible.

I remember seeing a sword in a movie where it had spring-loaded daggers pop out at the base. Above the handle so it was essentially just an extension of the blade itself.
Like the blade had babies. Or tiny T-rex arms.
Three blades, guard, handle.
That's how the dinky lightsaber should have been constructed.

Although, in the movie, that design of spring-loaded couldn't have been too effective. Maybe for one fight.
I'm under the impression that the spring-loaded mechanism would be cheap and wear out quickly.

This design in the teaser trailer is just stupid.
Stupid!!!

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X-Wings

Makes a nice wallpaper, them flying over the water.
Add some photoshop brushstrokes and stamp "DeviantArt" on it. :smrt:

This conforts me in my idea that Star Wars fans are the worst kind of people. You change one garment, one sound or lighting and they are ready to burn the new upcoming trilogy by saying its not like the 4th one, that it has too many CGI bla bla bla

I'll just leave this little reminder here as to why a saber guard is a good idea, courtesy of an old friend who got duped into having it done to him twice:

all - Jiffier gifs through HTML5 Video Conversion. (http://gfycat.com/EverlastingFelineGrayfox)

Just saw the trailer this morning.

New stormtroopers, new X-wings, new radar dish for the Falcon...

(Ker-pew)

That explosion you just saw was my mind being completely blown away.

George Lucas released his own version of the teaser trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93Jh6JNBng

This conforts me in my idea that Star Wars fans are the worst kind of people. You change one garment, one sound or lighting and they are ready to burn the new upcoming trilogy by saying its not like the 4th one, that it has too many CGI bla bla bla

You mean like people who read books and then groan about a film adaptation?
Or a video game?

This conforts me in my idea that Star Wars fans are the worst kind of people. You change one garment, one sound or lighting and they are ready to burn the new upcoming trilogy by saying its not like the 4th one, that it has too many CGI bla bla bla

But fans of Star Wars make amazing things. I mean just look at this: [LDD MOC] 71,000 piece, 13-foot Super Star Destroyer - LEGO Star Wars - Eurobricks Forums (http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=90341)

Or that CR90 Corvette made of LEGO that is built to the official LEGO minifigurine scale.

Regards.

I mean like people who just see one trailer and think they already know that the movie is going to suck. They maybe amazing fans but if you listen to them star wars would be only 3 movies.

While I'm a big fan of the Millennium Falcon I feel there was something wrong with it's model as seen in the teaser :(

it felt way too cgi-ish.
same for everything.
i mean, everything CG looked better in revenge of the sith, 9 years ago.

It's clearly not finished and will look better in the final film. There's still a whole year before release.

yes, is probably rough draft CGI (not render final/HQ)

So far so good with the teaser. Hope JJ Binks does a good job of it.

Didn't turn out so well for Giacchino and Star Wars. C'est la live!


Most people don't realize that Giacchino has already composed a Star Wars score. He composed and arranged the score for Star Tours II at the Disney Parks! And I thought it sounded great! If anyone was to replace John Williams for the future Star Wars films, it should be him!

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It stinks! I was alarmed the moment the nigger entered the frame. Immediately lowered my expectations. That's the end of the line-

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It stinks! I was alarmed the moment the nigger entered the frame. Immediately lowered my expectations. That's the end of the line-

This comment and others similar to it are the reasons why people often regard science fiction and comic book fans in the same way you regard the large smelly guy with the tin foil hat who talks to himself as he pushes a shopping cart full of junk down the street.

Of course, Dickless is simply being a troll and is akin to the chimps at the zoo who crap in their hands and then fling it at visitors. Small minds and smaller dicks will be ignored.

If you have a problem with this, I live in NYC. Let's meet sometime for a discussion unarmed and in a public place

And yet another burden NYC must endure. But you, like the snow, will pass, unfortunately not with the coming of warm weather.

God hates your guts.

Youremember those signs in zoos, right? They say"don't feed". Same prinicple here.

Particularly unimpressed with the trailer. Xwings fly on the ground (or near to) now? What. The. Eph?! Hmm, just think if they would've done that for the Battle of Endor?!

Let's see if we'll get back to the characteristics of the "original trilogy" where everyone DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH!!!

Particularly unimpressed with the trailer. Xwings fly on the ground (or near to) now? What. The. Eph?! Hmm, just think if they would've done that for the Battle of Endor?!

Let's see if we'll get back to the characteristics of the "original trilogy" where everyone DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH!!!

everytime the x wings were on screen, they were either grounded, on take off, or in space. there never was a "ground" level battle involving the xwings.
games on the other hand, featured them a plenty.

Yes, they get it all wrong!

And I'd really go for it, but with niggers involved in Star Wars, it just takes me out of the whole movie!
I mean, Lando was okay, he was a traitor, and Lando was a supporting character. But not in the leads.

I mean, now they gonna recast Spider-Man, and guess what? Black-washing! I wouldn't be surprised they cast a black actor as Spidey.

... Spider-Nigger!

I don't like the title.

The Force RE-Awakens.
:fixed: :smrt:

When was it sleeping? I was under the impression it was a constant entity.

Expect a more in depth trailer in the near future.

Yes, and did we miss there was a negro planet where all these blacks are coming from?

Yes, they get it all wrong!

And I'd really go for it, but with niggers involved in Star Wars, it just takes me out of the whole movie!
I mean, Lando was okay, he was a traitor, and Lando was a supporting character. But not in the leads.

I mean, now they gonna recast Spider-Man, and guess what? Black-washing! I wouldn't be surprised they cast a black actor as Spidey.

... Spider-Nigger!

no dumbass, im telling you they werent featured in a ground battle because they never needed them for one.
on hoth, they would have been useless since they dont have tow cables.

Nonsense!

When was it sleeping? I was under the impression it was a constant entity.

Then what's the point for it awakening in the first place?

I am to understand this long after Ep 3 where most Jedi are known to be dead and after 6 where the "new hope" escapes and has babies with his sister.

If anything is to have "awaken" in the title, it would be a prequel that predates The Phantom Menace.
Like the very first Jedi being born into existence.

It was also sleeping during Ep 4-6 since any Jedi was in hiding (after Order 66 in Ep 3).



Was there any official statement from JJA that this movie would include anything from the extended universe?

I still think the base+guard should be made out of the saber-proof material from the EU.

A skilled Jedi/Sith can still cut off those tiny little guard pieces.
If they can do all sorts of fancy shit, they can do that.
And make it a typcial 3 minute sword fight until the guard gets chopped up.

I also want to see a rapier saber now that we have a claymore.

Saber proof metal is canon. The Magnaguard staffs were made from the stuff.

Only 3K credits to make one.
Electrostaff - Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Electrostaff)

Assuming the materials were available.

It would be awesome for the stand-alone bounty hunter movie if they raided one of the Phrikite mining operations just to create their super awesome Mandalorian armor out of it.

i cant wait! at the bare minimum it cant be worse then where lucas has taken the series >.>

He, at least he kept the franchise caucasian! Except Samuel L. Jackson..

i cant wait! at the bare minimum it cant be worse then where lucas has taken the series >.>

Sure about that?



I'm worried that someone making this movie will think it's a good idea to include stupid stuff like that. There's so much potential to do something unintentionally hilariously terrible with the Star Wars universe.

Spider-Man will also be a nigger!