tenpennyopera
09-03-2014, 08:10 PM
Part 1: Download links for AD-HP7P1CS.part1.rar - Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple hosts (http://mir.cr/YZJVUD5I)
Part 2: Download links for AD-HP7P1CS.part2.rar - Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple hosts (http://mir.cr/JSQBVN6Y)
Part 3: Download links for AD-HP7P1CS.part3.rar - Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple hosts (http://mir.cr/1JND5BI3)

ygmmasta
09-03-2014, 09:00 PM
Well, fukc

TheSkeletonMan939
09-03-2014, 09:04 PM
Yessss.

Thanks. Four down, four to go.

Lokutus82
09-03-2014, 09:21 PM
Cool! Finally something interesting for a change!

ispalko070480
09-03-2014, 09:24 PM
AWESOME

DAKoftheOTA
09-03-2014, 09:31 PM
Well, fukc

Oh, come on. So many people have this. It was bound to happen sooner or later.

Can't wait to see the remainder of the circle jerk's reaction. The anticipation is killing me.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-03-2014, 09:41 PM
Can't wait to see the remainder of the circle jerk's reaction. The anticipation is killing me.

Ditto. I love reading their rants when something like this leaks.

bollemanneke
09-03-2014, 09:51 PM
This is not going to be a rant because I fully agree with what Dakoftheota said. The only thing that bothers me is... why can't you leak this under your real name? And whatever you do, don't say you're new to this forum now. If you're afraid to upset your friends, just don't leak things. Also, the effect is slightly diminished by the fact that you said you would leak it soon in SonicAdventure's poll thread. But again, I am not bitter. And before I forget, can anyone hwo reads this and has the remaining sessions contact me? (Just to talk about them, of course.)

pottyaboutpotter1
09-03-2014, 09:59 PM
Oh wow! This is a surprise! So out of the HP sessions, Philosopher's Stone, Chamber of Secrets, Goblet of Fire and now Deathly Hallows 1 have leaked. That leaves Prisoner of Azkaban, Order of the Phoenix, Half Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows 2 to leak at some point. Here's hoping/wishing on a star/sacrificing to the Film Music gods.

bollemanneke
09-03-2014, 10:04 PM
Pray for HP3 with all your might. The gods didn't heed that wish yet.

Drunkenmunkey
09-03-2014, 10:07 PM
holy fuk thex for making my day.

ygmmasta
09-03-2014, 10:18 PM
nvm

laohu
09-03-2014, 11:32 PM
thanks

moviemusicsi
09-03-2014, 11:37 PM
many thanks

Crossbones
09-03-2014, 11:58 PM
Better late than never. Thanks!

rocklegend
09-04-2014, 12:06 AM
Ah Balls it�s mp3 ;(

hack3rman
09-04-2014, 12:10 AM
Oh wow! This is a surprise! So out of the HP sessions, Philosopher's Stone, Chamber of Secrets, Goblet of Fire and now Deathly Hallows 1 have leaked. That leaves Prisoner of Azkaban, Order of the Phoenix, Half Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows 2 to leak at some point. Here's hoping/wishing on a star/sacrificing to the Film Music gods.

Someone may or may not already have Deathly Hallows Part 2...

TheSkeletonMan939
09-04-2014, 12:19 AM
Aside from Prisoner of Azkaban, I'm sure the others are out there in the hands of a good chunk of traders.

mirren
09-04-2014, 12:27 AM
Thank you.

SonicAdventure
09-04-2014, 12:29 AM
Pray for HP3 with all your might. The gods didn't heed that wish yet.

Well, the Gods are apparently people who... take a shite just like us mortal people do. They also have the same flaws: they�re selfish and greedy. And they are wicked, oh so wicked.

As it�s written: And HE shall smite the wicked.

:)

They should give the HP3 sessions to me, I would know what to do with them.

Oh, and thank you very much for the share, 'tenpennyopera' (who is of course not a member of the Gods).

Mr.Brain
09-04-2014, 01:02 AM
Can someone indicate how many tracks are included in this version? Thank you.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-04-2014, 01:20 AM
104 tracks, just over 3 hours.

amh1219
09-04-2014, 01:37 AM
This is not going to be a rant because I fully agree with what Dakoftheota said. The only thing that bothers me is... why can't you leak this under your real name? And whatever you do, don't say you're new to this forum now. If you're afraid to upset your friends, just don't leak things. Also, the effect is slightly diminished by the fact that you said you would leak it soon in SonicAdventure's poll thread. But again, I am not bitter. And before I forget, can anyone hwo reads this and has the remaining sessions contact me? (Just to talk about them, of course.)

Just for the record, I never once said I'd leak this. I said I'd give them to Sonic to work with IF it was the score picked by the voters in his poll. Frankly, these sessions sound fine compared to many of the others that could/should win instead (e.g. Spider-Man 3).

mboy114
09-04-2014, 01:46 AM
Thanks...

SonicAdventure
09-04-2014, 02:52 AM
Just for the record, I never once said I'd leak this. I said I'd give them to Sonic to work with IF it was the score picked by the voters in his poll. Frankly, these sessions sound fine compared to many of the others that could/should win instead (e.g. Spider-Man 3).

True. A quick comparison confirms that they sound like the OST (minus brickwall limiting and / or dynamic compression). Though I�d have to have a closer look to find out actual differences. And there are some low-level problems on the sessions... but they were on the OST too. I now wonder how they recorded this... but in any case, this is the real deal.

If I ever make a Deluxe Edition out of it... I wouldn�t know how to start. To begin with... there are so many alternates... and many of them are real alternates (compared to other scores), not something where only small parts have changed (which, on my editions, would be deleted immediately). But maybe my impression is wrong and I haven�t listened to it enough (very probable).

jamo1234
09-04-2014, 03:04 AM
Thankyou man!!!

Robin4
09-04-2014, 03:06 AM
Thanks!

AdrFax
09-04-2014, 06:09 AM
Holy mother!! Is this real? DD:

Something tells me that *if* they decide to leak the rest of the sessions, they'd shell out Hooper's works first, then Deathly Hallows pt 2 and they'd leave Prisoner for last (that is, if they ever feel in the mood to share it). Obviously Prisoner is the most valuable of them all, and it will be hard to let it go, but there is always hope :D

traceelementsobs
09-04-2014, 07:08 AM
Thank you so so much!!

Creativeawesome
09-04-2014, 08:15 AM
Thanks :)

bollemanneke
09-04-2014, 09:04 AM
SonicAdventures, if this wins I'll be more than happy to post a quick track analysis for you to get you started.

About Azkaban, it's not a question of letting go, no one ccan let go of it because it... just doesn't exist yet.

GreatKenji
09-04-2014, 09:22 AM
Thank you very much! ;)

Cornelius&Zira
09-04-2014, 09:26 AM
Yes many Thanks. I Wait for the second Session.... Weeeelll....

theodred27
09-04-2014, 10:27 AM
Covers i did for this edition and lets hope that leaking this one wont prevent me from doing one for POA if it ever comes out.

(http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=174395DHRS.jpg)

(http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=973204Hp7DD.jpg)

Marvelous
09-04-2014, 10:38 AM
Oooh Thank you! Now only if Part 2 would come out! And of course sessions for Prisoner Of Azkaban!

bobyaco
09-04-2014, 12:29 PM
Thank You

vje11
09-04-2014, 12:45 PM
Thanks a lot ;-)

SonicAdventure
09-04-2014, 02:21 PM
The only thing that bothers me is... why can't you leak this under your real name? And whatever you do, don't say you're new to this forum now. If you're afraid to upset your friends, just don't leak things. Also, the effect is slightly diminished by the fact that you said you would leak it soon in SonicAdventure's poll thread.

I've given this a bit of a thought. And I disagree, he actually might not be responsible for it. Many people read his post on the poll-thread, almost anyone who has the sessions could have leaked them. By doing that, the person leaking it has directed any suspicion that might arise towards him who first mentioned that they existed. The reasons to do so are countless... maybe he wants to discredit him, maybe the leaker just wants to avoid to be revealed himself by directing attention to someone else. Why not? It's easy to direct blame to someone else when that person has been transparent, combined with others who will then talk without thinking it through.

bollemanneke
09-04-2014, 02:31 PM
Fair enough.

__zss
09-04-2014, 03:46 PM
thanks

Amanda
09-04-2014, 03:53 PM
I've given this a bit of a thought. And I disagree, he actually might not be responsible for it. Many people read his post on the poll-thread, almost anyone who has the sessions could have leaked them. By doing that, the person leaking it has directed any suspicion that might arise towards him who first mentioned that they existed. The reasons to do so are countless... maybe he wants to discredit him, maybe the leaker just wants to avoid to be revealed himself by directing attention to someone else. Why not? It's easy to direct blame to someone else when that person has been transparent, combined with others who will then talk without thinking it through.

And I will say yet again, I **hate** these sort of Secret Squirrel games. Just read that folks. That there is actually reason among us to go to lengths to hide identities, and twist and turn to share a thing.....I'd laugh but it isn't funny. And, btw, angering friends is a good way to lose them. Since once accused of posting, there is no way to prove it WASN'T you, and you're screwed. Ask me, I know.

ygmmasta
09-04-2014, 04:08 PM
Hand up who thinks it was me :D

liveorletdie
09-04-2014, 04:12 PM
Thank you very very very much!

amh1219
09-04-2014, 05:38 PM
Someone may or may not already have Deathly Hallows Part 2...

You mean like, all of us?

boosterrr
09-04-2014, 05:46 PM
Fuck yeahhhhhh

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You mean like, all of us?
Come have the balls and share part 2

DAKoftheOTA
09-04-2014, 06:18 PM
Please. More than 50% of the people in this thread have pt. II

bollemanneke
09-04-2014, 06:22 PM
It's just that having it doesn't do anyone any harm, but posting it publicly seems to do exactly that. Before people jump to conclusions, this is not a 'I hate others having things I have' train of thought.

amh1219
09-04-2014, 06:38 PM
It's just that having it doesn't do anyone any harm, but posting it publicly seems to do exactly that.

Speaking as someone who's sitting on a small horde of sessions himself, I have a real hard time buying that. Can you prove that anyone was harmed by the posting of this thread?

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Come have the balls and share part 2

Why? It'll come eventually. And it's not like I never share. My current strategy is to post 1-2 sets of sessions every year; once on Christmas, once at some other time. And I do this in addition to the legitimate Intrada and LLL albums that I occasionally post.

bollemanneke
09-04-2014, 06:43 PM
I can't prove anything without spilling the beans on people, but I know for a fact that the people who will ever have, or maybe already have, access to Azkaban won't come forward after they see their stuff surface here yet again. Goblet of Fire already damaged an awful lot, but you don't have to take my word for it. Just wait and see when Azkaban pops up.

mgm5215
09-04-2014, 06:49 PM
Maybe Azkaban won't be out for a while, but I heard that if this one and the other Desplat score gets leaked, the Hooper ones might be getting around.

bollemanneke
09-04-2014, 06:51 PM
There's no need for another Desplat leak to make the other two surface in the future.

mboy114
09-04-2014, 06:53 PM
Maybe Azkaban won't be out for a while, but I heard that if this one and the other Desplat score gets leaked, the Hooper ones might be getting around.

I hope the Hooper ones get shared... I like Hooper...so yeah... I hope they get shared...

hahah123
09-04-2014, 06:54 PM
"And here we go" - Joker, Badass Zimmer music...

I hope everyone is enjoying this leak with all it's alternates source music etc! It is an amazing score and I think everyone agrees with me when I say that the OST didn't do it justice!

I am not at all annoyed or bothered by this leak, but what bollemanneke spelled out for everyone is sadly true...Let's see when we'll see HP3...maybe even tomorrow...who knows!:P

bollemanneke
09-04-2014, 07:03 PM
I can wait till 24th of December, but I NEED A WINTER'S SPELL ON CHRISTMAS EVE!

nyjon
09-04-2014, 07:37 PM
Thanks for sharing.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-04-2014, 08:09 PM
Well, in any case, I hope Part II leaks sometime this year. I'd predict the OotP sessions would leak next, followed by HBP, and finally PoA. I doubt those last three are in more than a few trading circles though.

bollemanneke
09-04-2014, 08:11 PM
I wholeheartedly agree with that order and statement.

DAKoftheOTA
09-04-2014, 08:14 PM
Do you guys not remember the Azkaban debacle last summer? I most certainly do. Of course it exists, everything exists. Even Terminator 2. I have hope for the future

TheSkeletonMan939
09-04-2014, 08:20 PM
Do you guys not remember the Azkaban debacle last summer? I most certainly do. Of course it exists, everything exists. Even Terminator 2. I have hope for the future

Yeah, that was great.

From what I understand the person who "uploaded" that was trying to trick someone else into re-uploading it (despite the fact that it had never existed in the first place). There's no real proof anyone had it then or now, though. And if anyone does have it they're certainly going to be discreet.

bollemanneke
09-04-2014, 08:23 PM
Yes, a debacle is indeed the best term for that whole episode... Some people actually fell for that cue list without durations without realising it was all over the Internet already. As I understand it, Azkaban was never digitally stored which makes it difficult to leak.

theodred27
09-04-2014, 08:24 PM
I know for a fact that a music editor wipped his ass with the sessions for hp3 and flushed them away......







no i hope im kiding =)

DAKoftheOTA
09-04-2014, 08:24 PM
Kinda like The Last Samurai, apparently Mr. Charles didn't really upload it but amh129 then uploaded it. But who knows

amh1219
09-04-2014, 08:31 PM
Maybe Azkaban won't be out for a while, but I heard that if this one and the other Desplat score gets leaked, the Hooper ones might be getting around.

That's why I think this leak actually sped up the process.

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Kinda like The Last Samurai, apparently Mr. Charles didn't really upload it but amh129 then uploaded it. But who knows

Yes and I didn't exactly make any friends over that one either, but I knew people wanted to hear it as badly as I had.

DAKoftheOTA
09-04-2014, 09:18 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but how does one score leaking further the process of another score leaking? In what way does that make sense?

mboy114
09-04-2014, 09:20 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but how does one score leaking further the process of another score leaking? In what way does that make sense?
I was kind of thinking the same thing...

TheSkeletonMan939
09-04-2014, 09:21 PM
Yeah, wouldn't that make people just want to hold on to whatever they've got even longer now that they have another worthless item thanks to a leak?

ygmmasta
09-04-2014, 09:22 PM
In what way does that make sense?

In no way because it doesn't further anything ;) Usually, it slows things down.

DAKoftheOTA
09-04-2014, 09:32 PM
I was kind of thinking the same thing...


Yeah, wouldn't that make people just want to hold on to whatever they've got even longer now that they have another worthless item thanks to a leak?


In no way because it doesn't further anything ;) Usually, it slows things down.

Well then there we have it. And I was almost starting to think that maybe I wasn't getting it

mbidule
09-04-2014, 09:37 PM
Awesome. Thanks a million !

bollemanneke
09-04-2014, 09:41 PM
Some people just reason differently I guess.

theodred27
09-04-2014, 09:56 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but how does one score leaking further the process of another score leaking? In what way does that make sense?

well generally it doesnt but harry potter is kind of a problem because you would expect them to come from one source only, so if you screw it you screw your chance to get them all. I always thought and still do that people should have waited to get them all before leaking them as soon as they got one. Im not saying that they shouldnt be put on the web im just saying i dont want to see that HP3 and maybe? hp5 6 wont see the light because of a careless move..
Getting a zimmer and leaking it is not really jeopardizing anything and yet? but HP which has been so carefully hidden... the people who leaked HP1 2 4 and now 7 should have thought this through because if we are all enjoying this, later you might gonna cry because you miss the one everyone wants and i mean by that hp3. I could be wrong but im 200% right when i say its a sensitive subject

Soundtrackcollector
09-04-2014, 10:01 PM
Well, in any case, I hope Part II leaks sometime this year. I'd predict the OotP sessions would leak next, followed by HBP, and finally PoA. I doubt those last three are in more than a few trading circles though.
trading circles =pianofiles

Riddle Snowcraft.Δ17
09-04-2014, 10:29 PM
I don't understand what's going on, but... why are there people acting like it has some kind of secret government documents about the cure of all diseases within the files?

mgm5215
09-04-2014, 10:43 PM
well generally it doesnt but harry potter is kind of a problem because you would expect them to come from one source only, so if you screw it you screw your chance to get them all. I always thought and still do that people should have waited to get them all before leaking them as soon as they got one. Im not saying that they shouldnt be put on the web im just saying i dont want to see that HP3 and maybe? hp5 6 wont see the light because of a careless move..
Getting a zimmer and leaking it is not really jeopardizing anything and yet? but HP which has been so carefully hidden... the people who leaked HP1 2 4 and now 7 should have thought this through because if we are all enjoying this, later you might gonna cry because you miss the one everyone wants and i mean by that hp3. I could be wrong but im 200% right when i say its a sensitive subject

Except that HP2 came from Ebay. The official version of how HP1 got leaked is that Scorepranos had HP1 from a source with all the eight sessions, he shared with someone, and that someone leaked it. The source got angry with Scorepranos and decided to not share with him the other sessions. But still, 2 years later, GOF came out and in the same time, HP7 and 8 in the trading circles. HP5 and 6 are out there, but like the others, it will take some time to get out. Having Desplat's scores out will make these others evenmore valuable which is why they'll keep it safe, or they'll use it for trade now that the others have fulfilled their usefulness. I think that we will see HP3 when all the others sessions are out.

Lockdown
09-04-2014, 10:51 PM
I'm sure Warner Bros. and the FFShrine knows exactly what specific user leaked this. They have historys of the IP Adresses, so even if you do make a new account, you aren't hidden at all. Especially to FFShrine, and Warner Bros. could find out exactly who leaked it if they wanted to. And leaks can ruin things, I heard of a label that was so close from getting a newly release Prisoner of Azkaban, but once Warner Bros. found out about the session leaks, they really tightened down on things. They said that they will be the only ones to release the Harry Potter scores. And also, I heard Man of Steel is far away locked in Warner Bros. vaults. At least that is what I heard from someone who knows Hans himself. So, yeah, sessions can hurt. And they can also help in a way. (For the people who don't trade things) Sometimes when someone shares a session, someone decides to share another, it's happened plenty here. Just my two cents.

bollemanneke
09-04-2014, 10:53 PM
HP2 idn't come from ebay... Or did it? When was it sold? In 2009 that stupid youtube video was already up. Didn't it get sold on ebay after it had been traded?

mgm5215
09-04-2014, 10:55 PM
Sessions might hurt WB, but it serves them right for not to release them in first place.

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HP2 idn't come from ebay... Or did it? When was it sold? In 2009 that stupid youtube video was already up. Didn't it get sold on ebay after it had been traded?

No, it was sold at Ebay.

bollemanneke
09-04-2014, 11:03 PM
I agree, I symphatise with people being hurt over leaks, but WB as a company needss to get a life and release the music. The only problem they have is that they lack common sense.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-04-2014, 11:25 PM
Exactly. If Warner Bros. knew what they were doing, they'd release the complete scores! They would sell like hotcakes. We'd get the music and they'd get the money. Sure, people would upload it online, but Warner Bros. would still make a hecka lotta money off them.

For some reason WB thinks that holding onto the sessions longer and keeping them in the back of someone's desk will keep their valuable music safe... it won't be. Man of Steel, Prisoner of Azkaban... they'll all leak someday, be it tomorrow or 2020.

tenpennyopera
09-05-2014, 03:47 AM
I have been persuaded to hold of on Part 2 for a time, expect it later this fall. oh and theres no need to try to contact this account or leave likes/rep, it's a public account with a freely viewable password (via bugmenot).

jmlangdon
09-05-2014, 04:18 AM
I don't understand why the HP scores have come to be so valuable. They certainly are not the best there is. But everybody seems to be just dying for them!!

DAKoftheOTA
09-05-2014, 04:31 AM
I don't understand why the HP scores have come to be so valuable. They certainly are not the best there is. But everybody seems to be just dying for them!!

Me neither. The first 3 are good I guess because they're Williams, (I only have interest in Azkaban because it's many a people's Holy Grail and it's piqued my interest) and after that I only like Death Hallows. 4, 5 & 6 are nothing to me

SonicAdventure
09-05-2014, 04:34 AM
I don't understand why the HP scores have come to be so valuable. They certainly are not the best there is. But everybody seems to be just dying for them!!

It�s the money connected to these scores. Not artistical value. The movies are extremely profitable, the scores are too. Both will always sell. Expect countless BluRay / whatever-future-format releases. And also expect countless soundtrack releases... like Titanic... with countless songs "inspired by the movie". Of course 'remastered' (-> made louder). Additional score pieces? One or two. If at all.

And since they are this popular (not only with score fans but with mainstream crowds too) they are highly coveted. And they can cure cancer. Bring world piece. Something like that.

Artistical reasons? Not so much. Not even HP3 is THAT good. Mostly low-level material, all important major pieces are on the OST already. Now, please don�t remind me of 30 seconds missing here and there. Those surely cannot be the most important ever, can they? Even if it�s the God of filmmusic, John Williams (and the 'God'-expression wasn�t cynical... IMO he is the best living composer right now). Though I�d love to finally hear the 9-note mystery motif for Peter Pettigrew outside the movie.

Lockdown
09-05-2014, 04:35 AM
DAK, if you have Prisoner of Azkaban OST on you, listen to Mischief Managed. It is literally the best thing ever. I always find myself 'humming' along and end up crying because the music is so amazing. Yeah, I am a male, and music made me cry.

jmlangdon
09-05-2014, 04:36 AM
Me neither. The first 3 are good I guess because they're Williams, (I only have interest in Azkaban because it's many a people's Holy Grail and it's piqued my interest) and after that I only like Death Hallows. 4, 5 & 6 are nothing to me

I agree! Azkaban is the best of the HPs, in my opinion. And still, I don't consider it the best that Williams has done. :P

Lockdown
09-05-2014, 04:39 AM
We are missing Peter Pettigrew's theme, which is my all time favorite, Winter's Spell, and some music that comes to mind is when Sirius, Lupin, Pettigrew, etc are all in the Shrieking Shack, great music there. And possibly there could be alternates of a few cues, maybe. It would be awesome to hear an alternate of Buckbeak's Flight or something like that. Plus the music that builds up to the End Credits, starting with Harry seeing his broomstick is some of the best. But, I guess excluding the Shrieking Shack and some others there is many short cues, like SonicAdventure stated.

jmlangdon
09-05-2014, 04:44 AM
It�s the money connected to these scores. Not artistical value. The movies are extremely profitable, the scores are too. Both will always sell. Expect countless BluRay / whatever-future-format releases. And also expect countless soundtrack releases... like Titanic... with countless songs "inspired by the movie". Of course 'remastered' (-> made louder). Additional score pieces? One or two. If at all.

And since they are this popular (not only with score fans but with mainstream crowds too) they are highly coveted. And they can cure cancer. Bring world piece. Something like that.

Artistical reasons? Not so much. Not even HP3 is THAT good. Mostly low-level material, all important major pieces are on the OST already. Now, please don�t remind me of 30 seconds missing here and there. Those surely cannot be the most important ever, can they? Even if it�s the God of filmmusic, John Williams (and the 'God'-expression wasn�t cynical... IMO he is the best living composer right now). Though I�d love to finally hear the 9-note mystery motif for Peter Pettigrew outside the movie.

I completely agree with you. Williams and Zimmer are the biggest soundtrack sellers, without a doubt. Problem is that their album releases are so bad sometimes. Specially Zimmer's!

Lockdown
09-05-2014, 04:48 AM
I completely agree with you. Williams and Zimmer are the biggest soundtrack sellers, without a doubt. Problem is that their album releases are so bad sometimes. Specially Zimmer's!
Well, Williams likes his releases to be suites, and not specific cues etc, if I remember correctly. And Zimmer doesn't like film order I guess? I don't really know, I think that Zimmer and Williams should release their scores raw, and add suites if they feel needed. And in film order, would be a great bonus.

SonicAdventure
09-05-2014, 04:51 AM
I agree! Azkaban is the best of the HPs, in my opinion. And still, I don't consider it the best that Williams has done. :P

True. IMO, the best would be Star Wars Episode II. But that�s only me...

jmlangdon
09-05-2014, 04:52 AM
Well, Williams likes his releases to be suites, and not specific cues etc, if I remember correctly. And Zimmer doesn't like film order I guess? I don't really know, I think that Zimmer and Williams should release their scores raw, and add suites if they feel needed. And in film order, would be a great bonus.

Yeah, their aim is to provide an enjoyable listening experience. But that tends to backfire. Some of Williams' soundtracks are have very bad editing, to the point where you can clearly notice the mash-up! And Zimmer... well, I thinks he makes an effort to make them completely unlistenable, sometimes. Adding Ti�sto remixes and crap like that...

SonicAdventure
09-05-2014, 04:52 AM
Well, Williams likes his releases to be suites, and not specific cues etc, if I remember correctly. And Zimmer doesn't like film order I guess? I don't really know, I think that Zimmer and Williams should release their scores raw, and add suites if they feel needed. And in film order, would be a great bonus.

Actually, I think that - especially JW scores - play better in their 'concert-suites-rearranged' form. The flow of the version John Williams prepares usually is much better.

jmlangdon
09-05-2014, 04:53 AM
True. IMO, the best would be Star Wars Episode II. But that�s only me...

Indeed!! Though, I would prefer Episode III first....

DAKoftheOTA
09-05-2014, 05:06 AM
Zimmer's score releases are suites as well. Actually, I'd say they're chopped up, put into a blender and spat out onto disc and sold in stores. One that comes to mind is TDKR. Listening to it, I can take 1 track and identify about 8 different cues from it. I wish Williams' scores were actual tracks, and in film order as well. And that's another thing about Zimmer scores, his aren't in film order because they all flow into each other. You can't really do that in film order

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 05:31 AM
Some of the Zimmer suites are actually thematic suites that become the actual scores. Zimmer writes these suites, and his RC cronies adapt those suites into the films. It's glorified tracking, which it explains why some of Zimmer's scores are actually copypaste. Williams does write suites or extensions of original cues for CD presentations.

Faleel
09-05-2014, 05:38 AM
Now, please don�t remind me of 30 seconds missing here and there. Those surely cannot be the most important ever, can they?

Sometimes less is more ;)

amh1219
09-05-2014, 06:34 AM
I love how this discussion has changed to our love of music for once!

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DAK, if you have Prisoner of Azkaban OST on you, listen to Mischief Managed. It is literally the best thing ever. I always find myself 'humming' along and end up crying because the music is so amazing. Yeah, I am a male, and music made me cry.

I'm right there with you, man. Azkaban's not the most emotional piece of music I have, but it's effect is very strong.

Plutopurto
09-05-2014, 07:04 AM
Prisoner of Azkaban definitely moves differently compared with the previous scores. I think Williams felt relaxed for once actually and we were finally starting to hear how he was building upon a nice bank of leitmotifs which no doubt would've gone on to other films if he had stayed. Some people often remind me that Williams sort of moved on from the first two scores like he ignored them, but I think most of this abandonment is due to what Alfonso Cuaron wanted. And there are hints of prior material in Azkaban which are not easily spotted but are there nonetheless.

DAKoftheOTA
09-05-2014, 07:16 AM
DAK, if you have Prisoner of Azkaban OST on you, listen to Mischief Managed. It is literally the best thing ever. I always find myself 'humming' along and end up crying because the music is so amazing. Yeah, I am a male, and music made me cry.

I have the FYC, which is identical. I've only ever listened to Aunt Marge's Waltz, I love that cue. I specifically remember reading that part of the book and where I was at that exact moment.

Your gender has nothing to do with whether music makes you so emotional you cry or not. Sent Here for A Reason from MoS gets me almost every time. There's plenty of music that gets me so emotional I tear up, and most of it is Zimmer's. And to all his haters, I hope this sentence greets you with a heart attack :)



Sometimes less is more ;)

I can back this statement up. Actually, it's not a statement - it's fact. Proof: 4m16 All That Love's About from WALL�E. Not 30 seconds - 54, but it's actually less than that after the silences are removed from the start and end of the cue. This is my favorite piece out of the entire score, and when watching the film, makes me cry almost every time.

ridan
09-05-2014, 07:45 AM
holy thanks!

theodred27
09-05-2014, 08:33 AM
I'm sure Warner Bros. and the FFShrine knows exactly what specific user leaked this. They have historys of the IP Adresses, so even if you do make a new account, you aren't hidden at all. Especially to FFShrine, and Warner Bros. could find out exactly who leaked it if they wanted to. And leaks can ruin things, I heard of a label that was so close from getting a newly release Prisoner of Azkaban, but once Warner Bros. found out about the session leaks, they really tightened down on things. They said that they will be the only ones to release the Harry Potter scores. And also, I heard Man of Steel is far away locked in Warner Bros. vaults. At least that is what I heard from someone who knows Hans himself. So, yeah, sessions can hurt. And they can also help in a way. (For the people who don't trade things) Sometimes when someone shares a session, someone decides to share another, it's happened plenty here. Just my two cents.

I wasnt aware of this story.

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 10:34 AM
Same here, music can get me very emotional, usually it's Patrick Doyle who does it.

As for HP3, yes a lot of 30-second pieces are missing, but the problem is that the score sort of only contains wonderful 30-second cues. To illustrate this, we have no released music between Snowball Fight and Buckbeak's execution! Seriously!

Composers shouldn't pick and choose what we get to hear. HP4's OST was a true disaster. So much beautiful cues missing.

As for HP1 and 2, well I'm only glad they left that sound because it drove me insane most of the time. I'd have swapped the sessions for 3 anytime with 1 or 2 or both.

Trian
09-05-2014, 01:22 PM
Holy mother.... thanks so much for this!!

Machionic
09-05-2014, 01:27 PM
Williams does write suites or extensions of original cues for CD presentations.

That's the way to go. Not the other around.

rocklegend
09-05-2014, 02:49 PM
I'm sure Warner Bros. and the FFShrine knows exactly what specific user leaked this. They have historys of the IP Adresses, so even if you do make a new account, you aren't hidden at all. Especially to FFShrine, and Warner Bros. could find out exactly who leaked it if they wanted to. And leaks can ruin things, I heard of a label that was so close from getting a newly release Prisoner of Azkaban, but once Warner Bros. found out about the session leaks, they really tightened down on things. They said that they will be the only ones to release the Harry Potter scores. And also, I heard Man of Steel is far away locked in Warner Bros. vaults. At least that is what I heard from someone who knows Hans himself. So, yeah, sessions can hurt. And they can also help in a way. (For the people who don't trade things) Sometimes when someone shares a session, someone decides to share another, it's happened plenty here. Just my two cents.


All the music Zimmer wrote for MOS is on the Deluxe edition 28mins sketchbook that was Sold.... that�s all he wrote for that film, maybe a cue here and there.... any other music that�s in the film was written by his Slaves ;) (additional Composers as it�s called) .... Junkie XL from what I believe wrote all of Zods music from what I believe from someone who worked on the project as an editor.....
I believe it was the same for the Amazing Spider-Man ..... he was heavenly part of the song writing process but not writing the score..... I believe there were 18 additional composer for that movie where they just adapted the songs into score..... Junkie XL wrote the Electro theme I believe.... what I will say that Zimmer has to pass on each cue and theme before they are put into the film so he has final say.....
The only score Zimmer wrote by himself and IMO his best ever work was The Davinci Code ..... fantastic score......

John Williams on the otherhand writes everything himself ;)

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Maybe I'm missing something, but how does one score leaking further the process of another score leaking? In what way does that make sense?

The value of the score diminishes from a trading stand point..... I know some scores that were traded for stupid amounts of money

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Maybe Azkaban won't be out for a while, but I heard that if this one and the other Desplat score gets leaked, the Hooper ones might be getting around.

I really hope they leak as Lossless..... true lossless ;)

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 02:53 PM
Maybe it's because of Zimmer's rediculously big team that everything from him leaks.

There's a always chance the leak in lossless, though I'd be happy with 320. Oh what the hell, I'd be happy with any format.

mboy114
09-05-2014, 03:16 PM
I wonder if Zimmer knows about his music being leaked... Like I'm curious to know if he knows...

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 03:21 PM
Rumour has it he does, and he doesn't even care. That's because he's a normal guy who understands some people like all his music more than his CDs.

mboy114
09-05-2014, 03:49 PM
Rumour has it he does, and he doesn't even care. That's because he's a normal guy who understands some people like all his music more than his CDs.

Well maybe he should release his sessions than his crappy CD edits...

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 03:52 PM
Yes, but aren't labels in charge of those releases? At least we can burn our own disks, SOME people (read John Williams) think they've got all the answers and pick and choose what we get and then go on to hide the rest forever. Damn you Johnny.

SonicAdventure
09-05-2014, 04:00 PM
I wonder if Zimmer knows about his music being leaked... Like I'm curious to know if he knows...

I'm fairly certain, that some composers even leak scores themselves. They either leak themselve or let their confidantes do it. I'm sure about one thing though: they definitely know.

c�d�master88
09-05-2014, 04:06 PM
If anyone has part II's sessions, could you PM me? I won't share, scout's honor. That's someone else's headache.

Bioscope
09-05-2014, 04:25 PM
Cody,please clean up your inbox :)

c�d�master88
09-05-2014, 04:34 PM
Cody,please clean up your inbox :)

Done :)

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 04:37 PM
I'm fairly certain, that some composers even leak scores themselves. They either leak themselve or let their confidantes do it. I'm sure about one thing though: they definitely know.

Yeah. I think that the sessions and sheets from Beltrami come straight from him. About Zimmer, I've heard that he leaks some of his sessions. Which is different from this one, since it's straight from WB.

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 04:42 PM
The Beltrami stuff doesn't come from him, scorepranos is somehow... involved there.

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 05:04 PM
He is, apparently Scorepranos is a friend of Beltrami. But that's why some stuff like Knowing hasn't being around, because Beltrami doesn't have it.

Plutopurto
09-05-2014, 05:12 PM
I wish part II's score would leak. Whilst I admire the DHP1, part II has the best bits.

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 05:22 PM
If only SOMEONE had Azkaban, I'd not be worried about any leak. Dear MOther Mary, give me a sign someone has the Azkaban sessions.

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 05:25 PM
If only SOMEONE had Azkaban, I'd not be worried about any leak. Dear MOther Mary, give me a sign someone has the Azkaban sessions.


Someone has it. Warner Bros xD

drhousetapachula
09-05-2014, 05:30 PM
Klaus Badelt leaks his own scores in edit versions and sessions. See his page

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 05:31 PM
Lol yes but I meant a kind-hearted influential mysterious figure who would somehow take an interest into my private collection of sessions. It's been 10 years now,it's got to surface.

rocklegend
09-05-2014, 05:35 PM
I'm fairly certain, that some composers even leak scores themselves. They either leak themselve or let their confidantes do it. I'm sure about one thing though: they definitely know.

This is pretty much on the money

SonicAdventure
09-05-2014, 06:14 PM
Lol yes but I meant a kind-hearted influential mysterious figure who would somehow take an interest into my private collection of sessions. It's been 10 years now,it's got to surface.

I'm not influential... but I'm kind-hearted (though one cannot see it all the time), I can be VERY mysterious if I want to and I definitely have an interest in your private session collection. Do I count? :)

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This is pretty much on the money

What I would be interested in then are the reasons. Have they been unhappy with how the score was treated on the OST? Or is it for their ego? Or is because they think that their music is so good, that it should be out?

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 06:29 PM
You will when you manage to get HP3. :) If they want better releases, they should give the labels a piece of their mind.

theodred27
09-05-2014, 06:30 PM
In my opinion its all about bureaucracy contract bullshit.

SonicAdventure
09-05-2014, 06:37 PM
You will when you manage to get HP3. :)

No one would be so stupid to give them to me. I�ve made it pretty clear in the past that I�d share them as a Deluxe Edition... and POOF! all the trading advantages vanish into thin air. I�d be - sort of - like a magic wand, turning precious gold into poop. My precioussssss.....

Bioscope
09-05-2014, 06:57 PM
@ Cody,

Again....You have too many fans lol.

p774
09-05-2014, 07:28 PM
Thank you for this! :)

For all the impatient guys out there: I was waiting for "The Last Samurai" from the day one I saw the movie, and some 8-10 years later, it came out. I’m a patient guy who doesn’t have much to share so there’s no way for me other than just wait. Everything comes out sooner or later. It’s just a matter of time. :) Now I will be patiently waiting for Part 2 which is the last I’m really interested in and if it ever leaks, I will be happy. Then just HTTYD2 sessions and my life is complete

TheSkeletonMan939
09-05-2014, 07:48 PM
If anyone has part II's sessions, could you PM me? I won't share, scout's honor. That's someone else's headache.


Cody,please clean up your inbox :)

Boy, that was the easiest private rare score share I think I'll ever witness.

In that case... I'd like them too - I won't share, scouts honor! (jk)

but seriously though it'd be awesome if someone were to send them to me

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 07:51 PM
LOL. Exactly. Maybe you should change your signature.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-05-2014, 07:54 PM
To what? Aside from a brief moment when I was entrusted to upload a rare score (Thin Red Line, if I'm remembering correctly) I've never had the connections to obtain anything rare. :P

Every now and then I get random PMs asking me whether I have sessions, though, which I think is odd.

hack3rman
09-05-2014, 08:04 PM
For those who are curious to what the tracklist is... here are screenshots of my copy of the Part 2 sessions.

EDIT: Track 45 shows up twice because I did a bad job at cropping my screenshots. :P




TheSkeletonMan939
09-05-2014, 08:07 PM
Interesting how there aren't an hour's worth of alternate takes, as there are in Part One.

hack3rman
09-05-2014, 08:11 PM
Interesting how there aren't an hour's worth of alternate takes, as there are in Part One.

That's how I got it. I thought it was weird too.

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 08:12 PM
Maybe Desplat felt a lot more self-assured and was very adamant about what should be recorded?

TheSkeletonMan939
09-05-2014, 08:15 PM
Maybe Desplat felt a lot more self-assured and was very adamant about what should be recorded?

Or maybe the source of the Pt 2 sessions omitted them or something.

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 08:22 PM
No, they didn't. This is all that was ever stored.

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 08:41 PM
HP7 had more alternates because Desplat started to write the score in august (the demos has the dates) when the film was supposed to end with Harry, Ron and Hermione arriving to the Malfoy Manor. Part 2 begins just like in the final cut (according to the script), but adding all the Malfoy Manor scenes and Dobby's death. The filmmakers changed the split point and both films had to be recut.

According to Mark Day, both films were 140 minutes long. Part 2 was shorter because of the 20 minutes of scenes they put in Part 1, and Part 1 was longer even though 20 minutes of scenes were cut (check the sessions tracklist, you can see slates from scenes gone missing, the dates of the music for the Malfoy Manor scenes in the demos are from September, and the eight reel is longer than the others because they added a new one). Part 2 was pretty much finished when Desplat wrote the score, but still, the film had lots of tracked cues from Part 1 (included in the Part 2 sessions), re-recordings from Williams's cues, and lots of overdub synth percussion (which some cues from Part 1 has).

But both sessions aren't complete. There's missing cues from the demos and sheets. Part 2 has 3 alternates of the Opening, two including full renditions of Hedwig's theme. And some cues are practically film versions, not the original ones.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-05-2014, 08:47 PM
Maybe someone with the Pt 2 sessions can answer this - were the end credits a recomposed piece for the film (as track 53 suggests) or did they reuse material straight from older films?

theodred27
09-05-2014, 08:48 PM
from what i remember its old material

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 08:52 PM
I thought it was a newly and shortened recording of Hedwig's Theme.

amh1219
09-05-2014, 08:53 PM
Also from memory, I'm pretty sure it's a new recording of old material, just like the Leaving Hogwarts bits.

Edit: I see bollemanneke beat me to the punch!

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 08:56 PM
The end credits are tracked, same with the HP7 cues and Dumbledore's Farewell. The others are re-recordings, Conrad Pope made sure that these sound just like the original ones.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-05-2014, 09:00 PM
For a film series that seemed to depart from Williams' themes (asides from Hedwig's Theme), I'm glad they chose to add material from the first couple of films in the end credits.

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 09:01 PM
Yes, but if they could add Hooper, why not repeat a cue from Doyle's glorious score too?

theodred27
09-05-2014, 09:14 PM
because it all started with williams, i think its legit it ends with him. Im sure people were moved by this music choice if it had been doyle people would have been a bit WTF considering he was hired for one film.

DAKoftheOTA
09-05-2014, 09:33 PM
It's disappointing Williams couldn't do the entire franchise. There's nothing worse than when you have a steady composer until suddenly the God of film music is replaced, never to return. At least Star Wars, Indiana Jones, TDK Trilogy, Transformers, Spider-Man Trilogy (for the most part) PotC (bit of a stretch there), LotR, The Hobbit, The Expendables and The Hunger Games (so far, fingers crossed for Mockingjay) are all consistent. I really wish the MCU had one composer, the music is all over the place.

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 09:37 PM
@Theodred: I agree, but I meant Hooper's music showed up in the middle of that movie. Why not use a cue composed by Doyle as well? Hooper's efforts were very admirable, but Doyle's score is so much better.

ggctuk2005
09-05-2014, 09:38 PM
I kind of wish Desplat had used Williams' Voldemort theme too. There was one part that sounded like it was the tail of it (album track "Showdown" from the 2:12 mark) but that could be coincidence.

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 09:41 PM
I hear a hint of Three Note Loop in Sky Battle too.

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 09:47 PM
(so far, fingers crossed for Mockingjay)

Yes, James Newton Howard will be doing both Mockingjay films. It's unbelievable that it took 20 years to have his own solo franchise.

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I hear a hint of Three Note Loop in Sky Battle too.


And the B phrase of the Obliviate theme has a resemblance of Williams's theme for Dobby.

rocklegend
09-05-2014, 09:48 PM
It's disappointing Williams couldn't do the entire franchise. There's nothing worse than when you have a steady composer until suddenly the God of film music is replaced, never to return. At least Star Wars, Indiana Jones, TDK Trilogy, Transformers, Spider-Man Trilogy (for the most part) PotC (bit of a stretch there), LotR, The Hobbit, The Expendables and The Hunger Games (so far, fingers crossed for Mockingjay) are all consistent. I really wish the MCU had one composer, the music is all over the place.

When I met John Williams many years ago I asked him that very question.... he said that he had only intented to do the first 2 with Chris Columbus as director.... he never was gonna do the third from what I understood ... it was the producers that really wanted him to return..... So he came back..... I did hear that Yates didn�t want Williams back for the last 2 films even though Williams was up to finishing the series .....

I agree that the MCU musically is a mess.....

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 09:52 PM
They wanted Williams, but he didn't do them because he was doing War Horse and Tintin. He was gonna do Goblet of Fire but he left because of Memoirs Of A Geisha. It was almost a done deal to have him in Deathly Hallows Part 2, but Williams wanted a rough cut of the movie to score, which it would have ended up on his score completely butchered (The final cut of the movie is really different from the original script and the rough cut, with Voldemort's death changed in post-production by the VFX crew).

Hooper decided to drop the last two films because he wanted Williams back. Desplat himself said that he liked to have cues from Williams in the last movie. But I do wonder how it would have being if James Horner did the first score as he was supposed to. Also, Columbus wanted to do all the movies, but he couldn't do Azkaban because he was exhausted from the first two. But he praised Yates for giving the franchise the direction he would have done (though seeing how he treated Percy Jackson, maybe the HP franchise wouldn't have made to the fifth book).

Also, you need to take into account that they we're adapting the books before finishing the series.

theodred27
09-05-2014, 10:04 PM
because Hp6 is a prologue for HP7 more than hp4 and i agree with dakota, the themes he did for HP3 were very promising, i cant help thinking what he could have done for the quiditch cup, the harry love theme, the order of the phoenix, sirius death, voldemort's past and so on. Im pretty sure that if he had done the 8 movies, he would have done something as big if not bigger than star wars and he would have been acclaimed for that.

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 10:09 PM
I think that Williams did 3 remembering that it's not another kids's film like he did the first two, and to bring something unique to the franchise.

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 10:13 PM
Voldemort's past, huh? Provided Yates didn't mess up that whole plot... I still think HP4 was THE score for Doyle to compose because of it's grandeur, Williams wouldn't have impressed me.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-05-2014, 10:14 PM
The final cut of the movie is really different from the original script and the rough cut, with Voldemort's death changed in post-production by the VFX crew.

That's exactly why I despise that last movie. It feels rushed, slapped together, too fast-paced to enjoy. It's the shortest film in the series, which means that it skims over pretty important plot points such as why are the Deathly Hallows important at all? They don't even bother mentioning Harry's cloak was a Hallow. They still didn't explain what that mirror thing was, or even really why Harry didn't die. It was whittled down to its bare bones, and anyone who hadn't read the books left the theater horribly confused. I hate what Yates did with the series and it's too bad he got to direct the most films.

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 10:24 PM
Should be grateful that we had two films of the same book, another director would have done like Mike Newell, who was offered to split Goblet Of Fire into two movies, and he didn't want to and took care of cutting stuff from the book. Deathly Hallows as a single movie would've being a disaster. The only way they could've done that is that Half Blood Prince had the original locket instead of a fake one, justify the Burrow attack to avoid Bill and Fleur's wedding, and avoid the Godric's Hollow/Ron's departure scenes to go straight to the silver doe scene.

Yates always wanted to make the films as faithful as the books as possible, which is why most of his ideas for the films were to make scenes out of mentions of events in the books (Azkaban's prison break, deatheaters attacking muggles, Hermione erasing her parents's memories, Ron and Hermione destroying the cup in the Chamber Of Secrets). Problem is, the last books have too much filler and purists wants even the useless details on the films (Even J.K. Rowling -who actually produced the final two movies - said that purists will still complain if the films would've been 6 hours long, and the Hobbit films are a proof of it) .

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 10:24 PM
They did explain the mirror thing... in a deleted scene (yes, I know...). The fact that Harry doesn't die can be explained in the movie by saying that the Elder Wand wanted to thwart Voldemort. As for the cloak, it's not really important to the story, is it? The audience might just think that Cloak of Invisibility is Harry's because the movies only mention that one cloak. Oh God, defending Yates's HPs on a Friday evening, I never cease to amaze myself.

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 10:27 PM
The problem is that audiences have become stupid, as stupid to believe that Snape was Harry's father only because he had the same patronus as Harry's mother, after having seven films with Harry being told over and over again how much he was like his father, who was actually seen in the films looking just like him.

The mirror was cut from HP5 because they didn't know it was going to be useful (and Rowling actually told them to keep Kreacher who was going to be cut), or it was actually used in HP5 but part of the 45 minutes of missing scenes. But in the script, it was explained. Another problem is that the last movies are done for those who has read the books, to fill the blank spaces that the movies have left to go straight to the point of the story instead of explaining everything.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-05-2014, 10:32 PM
They did explain the mirror thing... in a deleted scene (yes, I know...).

That's what I mean. Looking through the deleted scenes, I can see that a lot of material was cut that would have made Part 1 make more sense - like the mirror, for instance, and also why the characters never use the word "Voldemort" because the Death Eaters track whoever uses his name. It's little things like that that make the film less nonsensical. I'm not expecting a complete transcript from book to film - if that's what you want then just read the book again - but good grief - at least make sure the audience fully understands what the main characters are doing and why.

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 10:35 PM
Newell got criticism, but everyone can say what they want: HP4 DOES make sense as a film. Hallows apparently does not because it indeed doesn't solve plot points. The script for Hallows was brilliant, but of course someone had to change it.

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 10:40 PM
But again, the films had lots of changes because of the split point, most of the scenes of the scripts were filmed. Peter Jackson did the same with the Hobbit and LOTR films, but he had enough time to film pickups to tie everything in. For Deathly Hallows, they only had time to film a new Epilogue because David Yates didn't liked the original one with all the characters looking too old. And some scenes never were filmed (including Tonks and Lupin's deaths that weren't in the script)because of the 3D conversion (Same reason of why Bellatrix and Voldemort's deaths were changed at post-production).

But I disagree, HP4 doesn't have too much of sense, it doesn't explain how Barty Crouch escaped from Azkaban, why do the Ministry thinks that Harry is lying about Voldemort's return, the maze scene looks like a thrlller movie than a dangerous challenge like in the book, and the first test looks like a generic action scene of a fantasy film.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-05-2014, 10:47 PM
They don't even bother explaining Barty Crouch Senior's death. Harry finds him and is just like, "Oh, dead person, I see those all the time." And suddenly he's in Dumbledore's office.

DAKoftheOTA
09-05-2014, 11:00 PM
I stopped reading at Azkaban, which is also where I stopped watching the films as well. I lost interest up until I saw the super trailer for Deathly Hallows and that's when I decided to finish watching them. It's not that they didn't make sense, I just didn't find 4, 5 or 6 interesting. And Deathly Hallows made sense to me. I wasn't confused. I probably would have been disappointed had I read the books. And that's why I never read books that have been adapted into films: I'm a movie person, not a book worm. I would much rather love a film than love a book. I always hear people say "the book was better" (LotR, The Hobbit, The Hunger Games, Dragon Tattoo, the list goes on). So I always just steer clear of the books. I saw The Giver this afternoon. I remember not liking the book, but the movie was ok.

Visculmania
09-05-2014, 11:05 PM
Where is all the drama? I thought that someone would've been scalped by now, instead this is like a nerdy little fan gathering... Good job.

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 11:11 PM
I stopped reading at Azkaban, which is also where I stopped watching the films as well. I lost interest up until I saw the super trailer for Deathly Hallows and that's when I decided to finish watching them. It's not that they didn't make sense, I just didn't find 4, 5 or 6 interesting. And Deathly Hallows made sense to me. I wasn't confused. I probably would have been disappointed had I read the books. And that's why I never read books that have been adapted into films: I'm a movie person, not a book worm. I would much rather love a film than love a book. I always hear people say "the book was better" (LotR, The Hobbit, The Hunger Games, Dragon Tattoo, the list goes on). So I always just steer clear of the books. I saw The Giver this afternoon. I remember not liking the book, but the movie was ok.

The hunger Games does improve upon the books (in the books we seen everything from Katniss's point of view). LOTR suffered lots of changes but improved lots of things and characters.

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 11:17 PM
To me the LOTR books suck. But really, you haven't read Hallows and the movie made sense to you? Can I just say I'm really, really impressed? So, how did you interpret:
- Bathilda suddenly becoming Nagini
- the scene with Dumbledore in the station (does not make sense at all because all the relevant content was scrapped)
- why Harry was so pissed at Hermione for breaking his wand (they never menton he lost his wand protection by that)
- why the Grey Lady is so angry with Harry (I'm really intrigued now, did this really make sense to you? They don't even explain why Helena hates that diadem so much)
- the fact that Remus suddenly has a son in the final scenes of HP8
- and so on... I'm truly baffled lol, I hate these last movies so much and the idiotic volume levels are the ip of the iceberg.

And if someone wants me to scalp someone, just ask.

theodred27
09-05-2014, 11:25 PM
Dh at least was less rushed, less akward and the acting was improved yet not perfect but HP4 is sometimes so laughable in his montage, Harry isnt even in the movie, you see him but he is like a empty shell whereas in hp5 yates managed to give him a psychology. In hp4 harry looks just dumb, im sorry in fact we dont see harry potter but daniel radcliffe trying to act in a movie. At this point IMO the HP saga lost its charm. The DH movies were at least an attempt to adapt the book, hp4 looks like a action experimental packed movie.

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 11:32 PM
Nagini was inside of Bathilda (That was confirmed by the test screenings, before WB changed the scene). The Grey Lady screaming is like Dumbledore and Luna screaming, Steve Kloves's way to show that he doesn't know these characters (obviously, the story involving the Bloody Baron was cut so the idea is that the Grey Lady hated her mother's diadem and has been tricked by others to use it).

There was a scene in HP7 where Tonks wants to say that she was pregnant and got interrupted by Moody, and in the wedding (According to the script), Lupin talks to Harry and tells him to be Teddy Lupin's godfather (Which is better than having him like in the book saying that he was embarassed of his son).

traceelementsobs
09-05-2014, 11:35 PM
Absolutely amazing upload, but is anyone else having trouble with tracks 39 and 94? I've downloaded multiple times from multiple hosting sites and used multiple browsers and every time those two tracks are missing? Thanks!

EDIT: Scratch that. Thanks again for the upload!!

bollemanneke
09-05-2014, 11:42 PM
Wait, mgm, I was resonding to dakoftheota...

mgm5215
09-05-2014, 11:59 PM
I see, but the rest was a reply. Also, the final movie got a 96% in Rotten Tomatoes from film critics.

SonicAdventure
09-06-2014, 03:17 AM
That's exactly why I despise that last movie. It feels rushed, slapped together, too fast-paced to enjoy. It's the shortest film in the series, which means that it skims over pretty important plot points such as why are the Deathly Hallows important at all? They don't even bother mentioning Harry's cloak was a Hallow. They still didn't explain what that mirror thing was, or even really why Harry didn't die. It was whittled down to its bare bones, and anyone who hadn't read the books left the theater horribly confused. I hate what Yates did with the series and it's too bad he got to direct the most films.

A book is a book, a movie is a movie. Both are two completely different things. For the first one you read sentences and you imagine it all in your head. The second one is an audiovisual experience where someone has done the interpretation for you (in this case the mixture of all people involved). You don�t need imagination anymore (though there are ways to use this in movies too, just look at 'Poltergeist') you just need to take the story along. It�s all about pace.

And one just cannot translate a book directly to the screen. The detail overload would be tremendous. I still am a bit angry at the last movie for leaving out Trelawny throwing crystal balls at Death Eaters. But from a movie perspective it doesn�t make any sense since it doesn�t move the movie along. With a movie it�s all about momentum, with a book you can pause and start again.

Just to say something remotely scientific: the sciences dealing with both medias, at college for example, never compare them. How could they do so? They are completely different. The movie contains the story of the book. That�s all. Story as in basic story. Not the details which would overload the movie.

I can still remember the discussion people led when the third came out: they were angry that Hagrid's Hut had been moved, that Hogwarts looked differently, that the movie was so dark, yadda, yadda. Why did it do so? Because the people involved (the director for instance) understood the book this way. Perfectly reasonable and valid. And look how brilliant the third is. To this day, it�s my favourite HP movie. All the others coming after it feel disjointed and incohesive because they tried to fill it with plot points.

The books are treated like the ultimate references... but why? The 7th isn�t really the best book. All the plot about Harry being a Horcrux, needs to die, etc. Unnecessary explanation, slows down the plot. After she introduced and painted the characters she introduces another trait late in the process that now serves to explain why he sometimes behave the way he does? That Harry can speak Parseltongue? Oh please. Don�t get me wrong: I love the books and I�ve swallowed them whole once I got them... but structurally they have their week points and sometimes I�ve shaken my head.

mgm5215
09-06-2014, 03:32 AM
Another problem is that Rowling started to make the books longer and with more filler since the third one. Also, Steve Kloves is that kind of writer who makes everything going fast in order to put almost everything, including filler. But I would say that the third one introduced problems that stay in the franchise.

Adding dumb scenes with humour (the shrinken heads and Cuaron's mexican homages instead of keeping the explanation of the Marauders which it was originally in the script), glorifying Hermione and having her saying lines from Ron (or having her as a superheroine who rides a broomstick in HP8 when she was terrible at it) who becomes a dumb sidekick when in the books was much more smarter, etc.

Marvelous
09-06-2014, 03:37 AM
I still think Prisoner Of Azkaban is a mess! But people want to say it's the best for some reason? I mean they skipped 2 major plot points. The issue regarding The Marauder's Map. And the issue about Harry's Patronus. Why it was a Stag. You can't have Lupin yelling at Harry about the map. Saying "The Map never lies!" Unless he informs Harry that he is Moony And he helped to make the map. And how his father was also a unregistered Anamagus who became a stag!

mgm5215
09-06-2014, 03:47 AM
Also, the scene itself was rushed. It was like "Hi, Harry. I'm Sirius and I'm innocent! A former friend of mine betrayed your parents and framed on me. So I'm gonna kill him". "No, Sirius! Let him live so we can set you free. Oh, wait! Lupin is turning into a werewolf, let's flee!".

Valyrious
09-06-2014, 08:09 AM
This is not going to be a rant because I fully agree with what Dakoftheota said. The only thing that bothers me is... why can't you leak this under your real name? And whatever you do, don't say you're new to this forum now. If you're afraid to upset your friends, just don't leak things. Also, the effect is slightly diminished by the fact that you said you would leak it soon in SonicAdventure's poll thread. But again, I am not bitter. And before I forget, can anyone hwo reads this and has the remaining sessions contact me? (Just to talk about them, of course.)
Real name? Nigga who gives a sweet fuck. Music is music.


Do you guys not remember the Azkaban debacle last summer? I most certainly do. Of course it exists, everything exists. Even Terminator 2. I have hope for the future
How could anyone forget? I literally saw that thread within the first five minutes, just casually looking around, and I saw that thread title, and I swear to fucking god I shit myself. Literal poo came out of my butt and I was shrieking. How sad that those boxers and pants went to waste, since it was for nothing.

I DEMAND SATISFACTION!!!!!!!!

---------- Post added at 03:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:46 AM ----------

This thread is making me want to re-read the books (which I haven't done since Deathly Hallows came out - I read it the first day it came out.) and haven't seen the books since Deathly Hallows 2 came out on DVD. So depressing that I forget so much. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone was the very first real book (real meaning not a picture book) that I ever read, when I was eight years old. True story.

Kaolin
09-06-2014, 06:45 PM
Thank you.

DAKoftheOTA
09-06-2014, 07:57 PM
Where is all the drama? I thought that someone would've been scalped by now, instead this is like a nerdy little fan gathering... Good job.

I've you're looking for drama, this is not the thread. There's no hurt really, (which is surprising) so if you really came here looking to start shit, piss off. But if you're here to become part of the discussion, then join us.


To me the LOTR books suck. But really, you haven't read Hallows and the movie made sense to you? Can I just say I'm really, really impressed? So, how did you interpret:
- Bathilda suddenly becoming Nagini
- the scene with Dumbledore in the station (does not make sense at all because all the relevant content was scrapped)
- why Harry was so pissed at Hermione for breaking his wand (they never menton he lost his wand protection by that)
- why the Grey Lady is so angry with Harry (I'm really intrigued now, did this really make sense to you? They don't even explain why Helena hates that diadem so much)
- the fact that Remus suddenly has a son in the final scenes of HP8
- and so on... I'm truly baffled lol, I hate these last movies so much and the idiotic volume levels are the ip of the iceberg.

And if someone wants me to scalp someone, just ask.

I don't need an answer for everything. Usually when I see a movie, I shut my brain off (exception: Inception) and suspend my disbelief (hello, Transformers) so I don't question everything. But, here it goes:

Bathilda Bagshot turning into Nagini - I just assumed that Nagini had the ability to morph/change into others? I mean he vanishes with Voldemort in pt. II and it's also a movie about magic, so I just naturally assumed.

Dumbledore at King's Cross Station - This was after Harry had been "killed", so I assumed it was like a heaven/limbo/dream-like state he was in. Again, made sense to me

Harry Pissed at Hermione for breaking his wand - been a while since I've seen both, I don't recall this?

The Grey Lady angry with Harry - I assumed she was angry at everyone in general, after her mother's diadem was defiled

Remus having a son in the final scenes - don't remember this

Harry not being "killed" / coming back to life when Voldemort storms Hogwart's - you didn't specify this one, but I think I saw mgm mention it earlier. When Harry's in The Dark Forest and he sees his parents, Sirius and Remus he says "I'm ready to die" and he opens the Golden Snitch and retrieves The Resurrection Stone. So a.) he was ready to die and sacrifice himself in order to save his friends and destroy Voldemort, so I figured the powers that be decided to spare him, and b.) he had the damned Resurrection Stone. Duh? So I knew he wasn't really dead. And plus when Mrs. Malfoy approached Harry to check if he was dead, she could tell he was not and asked him if Malfoy was still alive, to which he subtly shoook his head yes. Also, upon Googling Mrs. Malfoy I'm just finding out that she's Bellatrix's younger sister, which makes Draco her nephew. I never knew this.

Sunderella
09-06-2014, 08:03 PM
Has Pt. II been posted here on the forums? I can't find it.

ggctuk2005
09-06-2014, 08:04 PM
Nobody seems to notice the most crucial point of the entire franchise was not even mentioned at all in a single one of the films: the real reason Voldemort went after Harry in the first place: the prophecy Trelawney made regarding Voldemort's downfall at the hands of one born at the end of July. There were many plot points omitted from all the films, but I'd say that was the most crucial omission. The last scene seems somewhat oddly edited as well: the conversation between Harry and Albus (his son, if anybody is getting confused) starts as though they've already had this discussion. We haven't seen this discussion (James teasing Albus about the possibility that he may be sorted into Slytherin), so it seems an odd jumping off point: they could have just omitted that entirely and had the kids getting on the train.

DAKoftheOTA
09-06-2014, 08:10 PM
Has Pt. II been posted here on the forums? I can't find it.

No, it has not been posted. Point me in the direction where someone said that.

It's being held off because it still retains a slight value, although I'll repeat myself: more than 50% of the people in this thread have it

moviemusicsi
09-06-2014, 08:13 PM
No, it has not been posted. Point me in the direction where someone said that.

It's being held off because it still retains a slight value, although I'll repeat myself: more than 50% of the people in this thread have it

wish i had .. im not worthy

DAKoftheOTA
09-06-2014, 08:15 PM
wish i had .. im not worthy

Neither were half the people who have it, which is how it spread around so fast. How you don't have it is surprising. But nah, it's not that people are "worthy" - trustworthy is the word. I'm shocked both pt. I and pt. II were not posted months ago. I know people who have had them forever.

moviemusicsi
09-06-2014, 08:36 PM
id consider myself trustworthy as welll lol ... im surprised these things dont leak as well...

bollemanneke
09-06-2014, 09:19 PM
Lol I didn't even think about that prophecy plot hole. Yates really did mess up...

Well sometimes promises go before posting, right? The only thing I absolutely hate is people getting these things using connections, scamming or trickery while not caring at all about this music (something tells me other people here might know what sort of people I refer to now...)

SonicAdventure
09-07-2014, 04:11 AM
I don't need an answer for everything. Usually when I see a movie, I shut my brain off (exception: Inception).

You didn�t shut your brain off when seeing Inception? You could have done so... that movie is one of the most pretentious I�ve seen in a long time. The last shot alone kills me every time. So unnecessary. Of course he isn�t dreaming. He doesn�t wear his wedding ring - which he only wears when he�s dreaming. But no, Mr. Supposedly-Brilliant-Nolan decides he needs a final shot to try and fool the audience. Then there is the colour grading... dreamstates are tinted in different colours than the real world. And all the fancy 'moving-Paris'-building'? All for naught since that wasn�t used in the movie afterwards. It just looked good and served to show off the capabilities of the visual effects departement, yet it didn�t have any relevance to the story.


Bathilda Bagshot turning into Nagini - I just assumed that Nagini had the ability to morph/change into others? I mean he vanishes with Voldemort in pt. II and it's also a movie about magic, so I just naturally assumed.

Hermione explains before in the movie that Bathilda Bagshot is ancient and known for her book 'History of Magic'. She even reminds Harry in her usual, book-worm-y way.


Dumbledore at King's Cross Station - This was after Harry had been "killed", so I assumed it was like a heaven/limbo/dream-like state he was in. Again, made sense to me

This was never properly explained, not even in the books. Dumbledore says something to him that can be interpreted in a way, saying that it�s all in Harry's head. So yeah, dream-like/limbo... just choose what you prefer :)


Harry Pissed at Hermione for breaking his wand - been a while since I've seen both, I don't recall this?

Well, he wasn�t really pissed... just a bit angry. Besides, he knew that it was an accident on Hermione's side.


The Grey Lady angry with Harry - I assumed she was angry at everyone in general, after her mother's diadem was defiled

Yes, the Grey Lady is angry at everyone - because Ghosts are strange beings in J.K. Rowlings world. The movies are not very clear on this. The only person the Grey Lady responds to is of course lovely Luna Lovegood.


Remus having a son in the final scenes - don't remember this

Tonks tries to tell Molly before they are attacked by Death Eaters in the 6th movie (Half-Blood Prince). It�s short but can be glimpsed.


Harry not being "killed" / coming back to life when Voldemort storms Hogwart's - you didn't specify this one, but I think I saw mgm mention it earlier. When Harry's in The Dark Forest and he sees his parents, Sirius and Remus he says "I'm ready to die" and he opens the Golden Snitch and retrieves The Resurrection Stone. So a.) he was ready to die and sacrifice himself in order to save his friends and destroy Voldemort, so I figured the powers that be decided to spare him, and b.) he had the damned Resurrection Stone. Duh? So I knew he wasn't really dead. And plus when Mrs. Malfoy approached Harry to check if he was dead, she could tell he was not and asked him if Malfoy was still alive, to which he subtly shoook his head yes. Also, upon Googling Mrs. Malfoy I'm just finding out that she's Bellatrix's younger sister, which makes Draco her nephew. I never knew this.

The Resurrection Stone has nothing to do with Harry's 'death', Harry threw it to the forest floor before facing Voldemort (besides, he would have had to use a spell to use it - which he didn�t). No, Voldemort created an accidental Horcrux when he first attacked Harry as an infant. What he then killed in the forest was his own Horcrux (Voldemort looks sort of damaged after it... because there�s just one Horcrux left: Nagini). Harry was just sort of stunned and in his 'Limbo'. And Narcissa's actions reflected the actions of Harry's own mum - the love of a mother for her child turns her into a lioness protecting her child. In Narcissa Malfoy's case it turned her away from the Death Eaters in order to protect Draco.

It is mentioned more than once that Bellatrix is Narcissa's sister. For example, I think, in the beginning of the 6th movie when Narcissa and Severus perform the unbreakable vow.

BTW, anyone should correct me in case I�ve stated it wrong. I�ve seen the movies often but I might still make mistakes.

DAKoftheOTA
09-07-2014, 04:26 AM
Voldemort created an accidental Horcrux when he first attacked Harry as an infant. What he then killed in the forest was his own Horcrux (Voldemort looks sort of damaged after it... because there�s just one Horcrux left: Nagini). Harry was just sort of stunned and in his 'Limbo'.

That's right, I knew this.

Still, I enjoyed pts. I & II and am glad I saw them in theatres. I likely won't ever read the books, so no worry there.

Irish_Whiskey
07-06-2016, 11:18 PM
Any chance someone can re-upload this? :) A megashare link would be fantastic!

jemima321
08-23-2016, 10:10 PM
I'd also look for a re-upload :-) thx in advance!