In your opinon what spells should a future FF game have.
Include:
Name of the spell
What the spell does
The spell's Elemental type (if any)

A spell called Luner it causes the most damage especially with boss battles the magic will start out with a full moon than an eclipse occur a destructive eclipse

I personally would like to see a resurect spell. Where the user reserects a perviously defeated enemey (non-boss) as an ally but with zombie status

I would want it to have the spell: "MOVE TO CORRECT FORUM"

My god idea's from your other thread.

Warp - all FFs should have this spell that was included in FFVI and some past FF games. It lets you escape from most battles and quickly exit most any area you might be trapped in at the time. Very useful.

i think that it needs an ability that sacrifice exp for crazy effects wierd!

I would really like to see some of the older summons in new FF's it would be really nice to see the likes of Golem and Starlet again.

Ya... Let us bring back the underdressed female summons.

no i want to see more sort of possesion magic

Maybe a spell that does the damage u have in life.

thats like white wind execpt it heals you

Actually, I think that's FFVIII's Kamikaze or maybe Dark Knight Darkness to a lesser extent.

I'd like to see spells like "White Wind", and something that raises your EXP and AP points, and I'd like to see strong non-elemental spells like "Pandorras Box" or "Shadow Flare". :)

Cool idea.
what about that the players cheats the enemy. With a gameboy that's exploding or something like that?

i'd like to see some new summons or maybe a technique that sacrifices an alleies life force for massive damage.

holy bound-disable all dark magic on your opponents side

i'd like to see some new summons or maybe a technique that sacrifices an alleies life force for massive damage.


(kamikaze on ff8)

(kamikaze on ff8)

Also Charon from FFX-2 and Darkness from FFIV

wot about "flarara" more powerful than flare and hits all emines???

wot about the summons thou... i mean u only see a few new ones...how about revamping them to look better like that quesicotl thing that does a move like ramara...sry about the writing im bad at this

wot about "flarara" more powerful than flare and hits all emines???

wot about the summons thou... i mean u only see a few new ones...how about revamping them to look better like that quesicotl thing that does a move like ramara...sry about the writing im bad at this

It's Quetzacotl and Ramuh

nightstalker

it does an attack like it envelops the target in darkness and does these crazy attacks that are pretty high

it'd be an aeon or summon whatever i don't thats a element though...

How about combination magic like in Chronotrigger? That would be awesome. Or maybe some more luck based magic to give it that challenging edge.

I'd love to see some super-over-the-top spells ala Disgaea.

If they put them in, people would probably just complain about them, though. :(

I think I'd like to see a system that lets players design their own spells, allowing really unique effects.

Well it depends if its helpful in the game really like Holy and Zombie worked great in FFX and Aura worked great in FF8. I'd definately like Zombie and more Summons =) Oh and perhaps Mighty Guard.

what prak said thats a great idea something like where you can use items on weapons and armour and that lets you use certain magic or you can use items to modify certain spells you could have basic fire and if you use say five holy waters it becomes fiery mist just like fire but inflicts zombie status too.

there should be like a terra attack *if there isn't one already* one with all the elements- dark, fire, ice, water, lightning, ultima, flare, etc

What about the capacity of making runes using your MP?

Like healing runes
Elemental runes like Fire, Fire2...
A Death rune, which would kill your enemy instantly
Flare and Holy runes (those'd cost a lot of MP)
The expeption would be magics like meteo and summons, and the advantages would be that even characters who wouldn't be able to cast a determinate spell could use the rune (being an item), and the rune maker could go to battle with good MP and the player wouldn't have to worry about it.

But to this happen I think the Inn's average price should be increased, and the MP to make runes should be greater than to use the magic in normal way.

That's my idea.

This i think would be a funny summon
It would be called manitee and its attack would be Flying Seacow Attack and it would show an ocean where a seacow flys out of the water and flys toward the enemy and beats the hell out of it and it would end by yelling MOO which would cause random status aliments.

This i think would be a funny summon
It would be called manitee and its attack would be Flying Seacow Attack and it would show an ocean where a seacow flys out of the water and flys toward the enemy and beats the hell out of it and it would end by yelling MOO which would cause random status aliments.
haha, that'd be one scary summon O_o;

wouldnt it be?

maybe a summon monster who grows. *I dont know if its already been done* but like when you first get it, it can be in an egg, or something. and then every time you level up 5 levels soemthing happens to it. and the highest level spell *like in 7- the highest level materia, x- the highest black magic spell, etc* and then have it be that element. or, with all the experience you get, you can make it........hehe, i probably sound so stupid right now *heh*

that egg things a bit like Pokemon gold/silver (sorry if that's a little sad but still)

Hmmmmm a spell....a spell....

A non-elemental spell it heals your party by the amount of damage you do to the enemy it's called Drainer (sorry i'm rubbish with names)

the ugly stick

i would like to have the level 9 spells from FF1.

o yeh and like someone said to design your own spells would be cool :)

maybe makeing up you're own elements.....that'd be cool.

the ugly stick, a nice whack of a magical stick that instantly makes the opponent look like a fuck
Hells yes

I would like the makers to design some new spells and keep the old ones too. My favorite was Holy in FFX. I would like the makers to add some new effects to the spells also.

i think there should be a whole spell encyclopedia with all the spells from all ff's plus new ones. there should be something like doublecast from ff10 cast two spells using both theoir mps. but instead of two diufferent spells they combine together to create new more devastating spells.

magick

some how i dont think that will happen chewey but i like your idea

OK, less of the porn methinks :(

- Pain. This is already recognized on FFVIII and above, but the chances of it actually working are like 5%, so it should be highered.

- Also, like what Prak said, some sort of "Spell Customization System", which allows current spells to be combined to produce new, and more useful ones, (or something like that).

Or the could let you design your own dress sphere, and make it an element, and then you get to customize it (althoguh they prolly aren't using dress spheres any more)

I'd add another level to the elemental spells. -aja. Dark Ixion from FFX had Thundaja.

Then like others have said, have like a Mix system but with spells instead of items. Maybe have it so you could mix it with an "All" support spell like the All materia in FF7. Also, have different levels of Mix. Level 1, 2 and 3. The higher the level, the more spells you can mix. Like Doublecast, have Double Mix.

What was special about the "aja" spells? I assume Dark Ifrit and Shiva had their respective Bliz and Firajas? Did they just do more damage? Could they break the damage limit?

Well it's funny, only Dark Ixion has an -aja spell, Thundaja, but it's non-elemental, and it does more damage than Thundaga (auto break damage limit with dark aeons). I just think since they've added another level, it should be present in future games.

Sounds like a sweet spell.

Oh --- I'd like to see more bosses with summoning ability.

I played FFX and then FFVII. In 10, Bahamut instantly became my favorite so his 3 forms in 7 were very appealing to me. They should definitely be brought back!

More original ones. Fire, Fira and Firaga are slightly boring. Try more exotic terms. Like Golden Sun did. Fume, Serpent Fume. Gaia, Great Gaia, Grand Gaia. Just more interesting names would be nice.

i think there should be one called final descruction
this would be the ultimate move, like knights of the round table in ff8
the character would lift his hand in the air and then you see the sun start to move
closer and closer the sun would get to your opponents. then BAM it would jump into light speed and collide into him and do the maximum damage possible

how many people would like this

error in my part it should be ff7

how many people would like this
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I like all the spells, using the suffixes instead of 2, or 3.
Fira, Firaga, etc.
They could use a "holy smite" however.

i think there should be one called final descruction
this would be the ultimate move, like knights of the round table in ff8
the character would lift his hand in the air and then you see the sun start to move
closer and closer the sun would get to your opponents. then BAM it would jump into light speed and collide into him and do the maximum damage possible

how many people would like this

error in my part it should be ff7


That sounds alot like Sephiroth's Super Nova. It was a summon that called a meteor over. It destroyed Pluto, Neptune, and Jupitor by fly through them. It crashed into the sun causing it to expand vaporizing Mecury and Mars and half of the Earth until it reached you.

I think the multi level spell names should be brought into other types of spells too.

Gravity -> Gravara -> Gravaga
Earth -> Earthara -> Earthaga

And again with the spell combinations. Imagine casting Aeraga fused with a Sleepel... You put them asleep as you fling them across the room.

Wow, talk about reviving an ancient thread.


Okay, first idea --- already been done to some degree. Final Fantasy XII has upped the ante with Aeroga, Curaja, Esunaga, Sleepga, Reflectga, etc. And I think it has high-level Gravity spells too.


Second idea --- interesting, but perhaps too powerful. Final Fantasy games already are somewhat less-than-famed for their difficulty.

Moving to FFXIII and Beyond...

I want to see the FFT abilities like the Holy Knight Shrine Knight and Holy swordsman have brought back and playable. I saw some of the monsters in FFXII use attacks that looked like Stasis punch I belive it is-the Ice one Agrias uses at first- but the player never got them so I think in the next game we should espically since those attacks blend really well with the roaming battle system Square enix is using now.

Bring back Manipulate from FFVII. To control enemies is useful, fun, and may save your life time to time.

Actually, Manipulate doesn't originate from VII, it originates from V.

Reuse of the spell triple/double.

Vanish, Doom. W00t! :)

Actually, Manipulate doesn't originate from VII, it originates from V.

I haven't played any of the classics so I didn't know that.

I want to see Ultima as I remember in FFVI.
Reminded me of an atomic bomb but more epic (at the time). Always caused 9999 damage. At least most of the time.
None-elemental

I want to see Ultima as I remember in FFVI.
Reminded me of an atomic bomb but more epic (at the time). Always caused 9999 damage. At least most of the time.
None-elemental

I remember Ultima being in FFVII, but I never played FFVI so I dunno if it was originally there or not.

FFVI is actually the first time I recall Ultima being around.

bring back ultima, pandora's box, trine, and the rest of the cool looking non elemental spells that do crazy damage.

call some of the newer spells cooler names...white noise, sounds cool. i dunno, just a thought.

Vanish and float. I havent seen them in FF 10 :(

If it helps, both are in FFXII.

More use of Aja level spells. Ever since seeing Thundaja, and getting all excited about a new level, and then seeing Curaja and Diaja in FF1, ive been wanting the Aja level spells to make a real appearance. (I was very surprised to see Firaja in FFXII!)

I even thought of a further level, -ava, as in Thundava, Curava, Demava, etc etc.. Imho, its the only letter than works, and theres only one problem, in that it doesnt work with Gravity (Graviva?) I worked around this making "Gravirava".

I tend to disagree with Squares spelling of the names, I mean, Aeroga, should clearly be Aeraga, Dark/Darkra/Darkga should be Shadow/Shadara/Shadaga.

Also, wth are they doing putting in aga spells, when there is no ara level version in sight? Makes no sense at all.

Also, the person who stated Gravity and Earth, it would be Gravira and Graviga, as evidenced by Kingdom Hearts, and Quake, Quakara and Quakaga. Then again, Square is rubbish at naming things these days.

Firagajava.

Also.

The spell "Complete game"

I'm tired of knowing the chain of spells inside and out before I purchase the title. They should take a few more chances and try and update the magic.

I'd like to see a monster breeding program, maybe to replace summoning, sort of thing. It sounds a bit pokemon, I know, but maybe if you sort of captured defeated opponents, made them into your 'pets' (for lack of a better word), so you could call on them in battle as a start, but then you could maybe go further with it, and (heh) 'force' different species of monsters to mate, giving you a cross breed of the two with the abilities of both its parents, and eventually creating bigger, meaner and more powerful beasts as you go.

I realise developing this sort of thing would be nigh on impossible, given the number of varieties of enemies there are in the newer FF games, so limitations would have to apply, like obviously, mechanical enemies wouldn't be included, and opposing elements were incompatible, as are huge dragons and minute insects, etc, etc.

It could work with some more thought to it, I think...

Edit:- Another idea could be perhaps a FF game with a day/night cycle, and your spells are specific to this. Might make an interesting challenge if some enemies or bosses were immune to your 'day' or sunlight dependant spells, but weak against your 'night' or darkness dependant spells, it might make some refreshing 'forks in the road' so to speak, affecting your progression through the game, possibly giving more replay value.

It would be great too if there were some spells that could only be used at dawn or twilight, maybe these could be the most devastating. Certainly limiting the use of the ultra powerful spells to something other than MP consumption could force more tactical playing.

(mind you, I can't say i'm a massive gamer, in the FF series nor much else, so this has all probably been done. I said myself the monster capturing/breeding idea was vaguely reminiscent of Pokemon...)

Double post, pardonski...

Hmm. They did experiment with altered weather conditions in XII, but it affected the layout and the types of monsters you faced, etc., not the magic. That might be an interesting way to extend the idea though.

I don't need new spells, I just want freaking Ultima to be more powerful. The name says it's ultimate, but using it in battle does not. (And Ultima comes from FF2, not 6)

Spells:

-The -aja spells.

-A new spell level (like someone suggested the -ava spells) except only bosses should use it as there's loads of spells already and adding in the -aja spells would fill up the spell box enough anyways...

-Some "fan-favourite classics" from the older games.

-I'd like my water spells back. I'm sick of the lack of water damage I could do in FFXII without summoning Famfrit or finding a stupid water-base weapon.

-Air and Earth spells.

Summons:

-More classics (like Shiva and Ifrit, etc..)

-BAHAMUT!!!! And all of his forms from FFVII

-Anima, what? I liked using him.

-More control over your summons, not like FFXII. I felt as though I barely had any control over them.

-Summon customization (sort of like in FFX only more detailed)

-Summon use. This time I want to feel as though summons are needed throughout the game *cough* Not FFXII style *cough*.

Ultima

holy

Odin


Gilgamesh

and limit breaks system like chrono cross with upgrading weapons

They need to improve the white magic: more references perhaps.
What should be the example? Maybe also some field-effecting magics.

more Water and Earth spells. it would also be cool if certain characters could built up elemental strengths and weakness. such being weak/absorbing damage from a certain element.

Wow, talk about reviving an ancient thread.


Okay, first idea --- already been done to some degree. Final Fantasy XII has upped the ante with Aeroga, Curaja, Esunaga, Sleepga, Reflectga, etc. And I think it has high-level Gravity spells too.


Second idea --- interesting, but perhaps too powerful. Final Fantasy games already are somewhat less-than-famed for their difficulty.

They brought back the Aero3 spell from FF7?

Well, they certainly had high-level Aero magic. It's been a while since I've played VII, though, so I can't say how similar or dissimilar it was to Aero3.

Ive missed Blue Magic andsome spells like Vanish and Flow (is that right? :P)

Vanish is right, but Flow? Not sure what you're trying to refer to there...

Ive missed Blue Magic and some spells like Vanish and Flow (is that right? :P)

Maybe the name changed into "Levitate" now. Blue magic used in ancient FFs so some spells might get their name changed. (Fire3 to Firaga, for example)

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I want ultima(more powerful)

chuck norris spell
and the -ja spells

Hydrogen Bomb! :)

Hydrogen Bomb! :)

nooooooooooooo
real world crap :(

they should have a spell to call up ff guys from the old games, eg summon Cloud lol

Megultimeteofatalisuperpowerboostaplosion!


The ultimate destruction spell that surpasses even the ultimate power of Ultima.

Something new and unseen? That'd be pretty sweet. Then I'd have one less reason to not buy it.

Spell Armed assault,
A wraith of doom, comes out and gives your whole part a head shot, with a M16.

With the new system that was introduced with FFXII (free-roaming enemies and all) it would be cool to see a spell that allowed you to temporarily turn monsters over to your side. It would make for some very interesting strategy (ie. cast it on a particularly annoying enemy and then have it kill itself)

With the new system that was introduced with FFXII (free-roaming enemies and all)

Chrono Trigger.

Stupid similarly-named games...

That would be confuse, I take it you never played FXII? I mean if you pay close attention they will never attack the right party.

That would be confuse, I take it you never played FXII? I mean if you pay close attention they will never attack the right party.

I have FFXII, but I never used Confuse...

I meant that the creature would actually become a controllable member of your party.

I'd all this spell Napalm Explosion. The character would swiftly run past the enemy and strike the enemy with his/her sword. The the character would stand straight up and turn his head slightly at the enemy and the enemy would glance back. A tidal wave of flames would emerge the same direction as the player. The enemy would look forward and see the flames and the character leaped into the air above the enemy saying the spell. The tidal wave would engulf the enemy and the character would crash down sword first on the enemy making a huge explosion making it look like an atomic bomb just hit. How does that sound...to flashy?

Instant Money:

The spell generates reams of money enough to purchase any character from the game like a discounted item at Wal-Mart.

Requirements: A coin, plus a drop of water.

Sacrifice all exp that would be gained from defeating the monster, does massive damage.
Would be useful against mini-bosses.

I have FFXII, but I never used Confuse...

I meant that the creature would actually become a controllable member of your party.

That sounds a lot like FFVII's Manipulation skill. Abbreviated to Manip. Or do you mean something a little more like the Chorno Cross technique DoppelGang.

Wow, it's so rare to see the original starter of the thread, especially someone who's not very active on the boards, posting in the thread after this long.

I think you're right that the poster means something more along what you're suggesting. It seems slightly similar to the idea of FFX's Aeons.