JHFan
06-26-2014, 09:06 AM
.

theodred27
06-26-2014, 09:11 AM
thanks ;)

Amanda
06-26-2014, 09:40 AM
I was gonna ask you if this was complete, then saw the title clearer....so..errr...:awsm:

Thanks as always. :)

Rocklegend2000
06-26-2014, 09:43 AM
Great stuff

Amanda
06-26-2014, 09:51 AM
Apparently, I have given out too much rep in the last 24 hours. So, Horny rep for you!:D

:erm:

liveorletdie
06-26-2014, 11:16 AM
Thanks a lot!

Nicola
06-26-2014, 12:29 PM
Hello and thank you for uploading this score.

Does anyone know why the cue “The Game Calls” (or something like this, performed by percussions only) is not included here? Isn’t this one the complete version?

Thanks again

the marvin
06-26-2014, 03:40 PM
Thanks! I can't remember how many times I've watched this movie as a kid!

JHFan
06-26-2014, 04:45 PM
Hello and thank you for uploading this score.

Does anyone know why the cue “The Game Calls” (or something like this, performed by percussions only) is not included here? Isn’t this one the complete version?

Thanks again

That's because when I originally made the DTS CD version, I didn't include that percussion because it doesn't even sound like it was part of the score, but merely a sound effect / source music and it just stuck out a bit too much when listening to the score. I typically don't include source music with these customized versions of the scores I do, which is why I even faded out the entire wailing vocalized ending to the end credit cue along with the 'Monkey Mayhem' opening to it as well. It's something that (to me) ruined the nicer sense of resolution to what was a beautiful end credit music. Thankfully the album is available with it.

scorecrazy69
06-26-2014, 05:12 PM
Thanks, JHFan! I've had the dvd rip for years and I don't really listen to it that much. I'll be curious to hear your custom version - chances are it will be more cohesive and easier to listen to.

Nicole_FML
06-26-2014, 05:26 PM
Thanks!

Amanda
06-26-2014, 05:28 PM
:sad: I really, really wish you'd change the title under your name. You know it's not true....just as mine usually aren't. :(

Nicola
06-26-2014, 06:32 PM
That's because when I originally made the DTS CD version, I didn't include that percussion because it doesn't even sound like it was part of the score, but merely a sound effect / source music and it just stuck out a bit too much when listening to the score. I typically don't include source music with these customized versions of the scores I do, which is why I even faded out the entire wailing vocalized ending to the end credit cue along with the 'Monkey Mayhem' opening to it as well. It's something that (to me) ruined the nicer sense of resolution to what was a beautiful end credit music. Thankfully the album is available with it.
I totally disagree with you. Also, those fades out/crossfades/cuts are exactly the reason why I definitely stopped purchasing original music. I won’t buy incomplete scores just because the labels like such ugly edits. Too bad.
In my opinion those percussions ARE part of the score; especially because they comment an important part of the movie. Otherwise I would not call myself “FILM-music fan”. :)

Amanda
06-26-2014, 06:36 PM
Most FILM edits of scores are actually the butchered and bleeding remains of what was actually written and recorded. The lack of film edits in an album does not make it incomplete in that sense. And I agree for the most part on leaving out source music as not part of the written score. And yet, I am **still** a FILM score fan, just with different preferences than you.

JHFan
06-26-2014, 08:18 PM
I totally disagree with you. Also, those fades out/crossfades/cuts are exactly the reason why I definitely stopped purchasing original music. I won’t buy incomplete scores just because the labels like such ugly edits. Too bad.

Oh I know you do.

I remember you from the Intrada messageboard saying the same thing over and over about how disappointed you were with many of their releases because they weren't (as Amanda correctly pointed out) butchered to sound like film edits or didn't include 5 seconds of a sound effect therefore making the album incomplete.

I was one of the people you argued a bit with on this very subject.

I prefer this CUSTOM version I made to the OST.

You do not, but the OST is widely available. I even used it to make this thing.

To each their own.

Don't like, then don't buy....or in this case don't download or simply delete.

That's one of the precious few beauties of today, in that we can make things to our own liking with a few free pieces of software.

Kaolin
06-26-2014, 09:11 PM
Thanks.

Nicola
06-27-2014, 01:02 AM
...The lack of film edits in an album does not make it incomplete in that sense...??? It�s not a matter of opinion, they are OBJECTIVELY incomplete. And yes, the film version of a score is not so good, many times; the �best� (in the sense of *complete*) version is indeed the complete recording session. Always.

Different taste, sure. But, coming back on topic, if you don�t care listening to those percussions, I would not call you an HARD film score fan.
By the way, how can you people call that cue �source music�? Those great jungle percussions are played several times into the movie; and the score wouldn�t be so good without.


...we can make things to our own liking with a few free pieces of software.Any good software for the music missing?

DjawadiFan
06-27-2014, 01:22 AM
Yeah, Thanks you. ;)

Amanda
06-27-2014, 01:23 AM
They are not incomplete. Look. Take Aliens Deluxe released by Varese. That contains the complete score as written and recorded by Horner. It IS complete as such. Cues were butchered and blended to produce what you hear in film. So in that sense, what is heard is incomplete. The only way an album would be complete by these standards would be to contain the entire score as written and recorded, all pick-ups and inserts. Add to that all versions of alternate takes and performances. Add to that any edits done to produce film versions. (tougher since they are editorial decisions made long after and may not even BE preserved). For many here you'd also have to add in the trailer music, whether written for the film or not. In the case of Aliens you'd need to include the percussion piece NOT written by Horner. That is on the iso score.

So, because you would rather have an album that is exactly as heard in film, but is "not so good" rather than a score as written by a favorite composer that is a terrific listen. Your choice. But it does not make you a bigger or better fan than me. It is a matter of personal taste. The drums in this score are certainly more like source music and not score. ISO scores, being what they are, include all source music (usually) as well as score. I just personally do not see them as such. The only way for you to obtain that would be to take those tracks from the available ISO score.

The opportunity, as in Aliens to hear both the unused original composition and the final film version is eye opening. The reason film edits are not so good, as you say, and choppy is that the music is not intended to flow. It needs only to fit certain beats of certain scenes. It can be sped up, slowed down, looped, chopped into pieces. Transitions can be non-existent. Fx will hide all of that anyway. So, listening to Deluxe Aliens, there is far more depth to the score. A slower and creepier build up to the finale. Other films suffer this as well. I do not personally feel that if a film edit is different than an original piece that the music is "missing". It is there, most certainly. Just not in the way you prefer. Keep in mind the labels are in the business of making the score into listenable albums. A "not so good" album is not going to be good business, and a "complete" set like I mentioned above would be financially out of reach. A 5 or 6 disc set for every movie. Won't happen. So a lot of companies label them Complete, but you will notice a lot of them merely call it expanded, which is my preference. Then you can bypass the whole mess...:)

laohu
06-27-2014, 02:03 AM
thanks JH

DAKoftheOTA
06-27-2014, 02:30 AM
Awesome, thanks for this. I know it'll be good because you are the Horner king and your edits are always good.

Amanda
06-27-2014, 04:21 AM
Hello and thank you for uploading this score.

Does anyone know why the cue “The Game Calls” (or something like this, performed by percussions only) is not included here? Isn’t this one the complete version?

Thanks again

I actually do not find that on the iso score either? track number?

VincenzoSZ
06-27-2014, 05:16 AM
Thanks!!!!

JHFan
06-27-2014, 05:48 AM
I did a lot of minor level changes to several cues.

The Prologue / Main Title has a louder piano over the ethnic flute, some of the near-silent string passages are a bit louder and easier to hear, I added all the short (as in between 15 to 40 seconds) cues together or to longer cues and did a few re-arranging of pieces in those cues for a better musical flow. It isn't perfect but it's not bad a listen.

Spectre8750
06-27-2014, 06:41 AM
Nice work JH, Thanks for this!

Nicola
06-27-2014, 01:33 PM
...Keep in mind the labels are in the business of making the score into listenable albums. A "not so good" album is not going to be good business, and a "complete" set like I mentioned above would be financially out of reach. A 5 or 6 disc set for every movie...
Excuses, excuses, excuses. If an entire score fits into one disc, the labels *still* do their nasty mutilations because THEY LIKE! They say so! They say they are “artists”. Look at PREDATOR: introda butchered the first edition. Then they said “all minor edits undown” but the second edition (MAF) is still mutilated. too bad!!! Come on, you are defending the indefensible.

Bigger or better fan: “fan” means “enthusiast”. More interest in more particulars makes the fan BIGGER. :)

The cue we are talking about is “finding the game”, one of the first.

Amanda
06-27-2014, 01:43 PM
I have no cue of that name in my set? No percussion only tracks at all. 33 track Isolated score? No jungle drums at all as stand alone...?

You say the albums butcher because it is not like the movie. I say the movie butchers because that was not how it was written and recorded. It's a personal preference. One cannot be more right than the other.

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runs 71 minutes..

Nicola
06-27-2014, 01:51 PM
You say the albums butcher because it is not like the movie...
Noooo. I say butchered because butchered it is. The labels cut/chop up/smash. That’s exactly what they do! You know they do, don't you?

I will serach that “jungle drums” somewhere in the next hours…

Amanda
06-27-2014, 01:57 PM
Combing through soulseek. I see a 26 track "expanded" score, the OST and the 31 track isolated score. IF it is not on the isolated score from the dvd, it certainly is NOT score and does not belong on the album. I say IF, because I am unclear where you are getting it from.

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Track 2 is Digging Up the Past. It runs 1:56 and is definitely score, not percussion.

But see there's the problem. You want film edits. Film edits are the score, that is chopped cut and smashed. It is the original score that is correct as the score goes. Now, some score cues can be mere seconds long. I PERSONALLY prefer those to be in longer suites and cues. I PERSONALLY cannot stand an album of tiny cues, even if that is how the film goes. I prefer longer cues, shorter cues combined, and I prefer the score as the composer wrote it and intended it, not necessarily as it ends up in the film. MY preference. Not right or wrong, just how I like it.

Misteretc
06-27-2014, 02:10 PM
Thanks!

Amanda
06-27-2014, 02:19 PM
Sorry, the iso is 33 tracks...

back cover...:

(http://s668.photobucket.com/user/kevandsue/media/jumanjicompleteback.jpg.html)

JHFan
06-27-2014, 02:23 PM
I had this debate with Nicola in 2009 on the Intrada board regarding "Honey, I Shrunk The Kids" and the debate went on all over the board with other members until both sides simply stopped talking about it....I've got no interest in it now 5 years later.


When I took the DVD's isolated score track and made it into a DTS surround CD, I condensed that down to 29 cues because a few cues in there were songs used in the film.

Amanda
06-27-2014, 02:28 PM
About the official albums? No, me neither really. It is a dead end there. BUT, about the details of the iso for jumanji, surely you can help? This IS an iso? Because this does NOT have the percussion only sound, and since an iso is (usually) exactly what is heard for film score that would imply the drums are not score but rather considered as fx.

JHFan
06-27-2014, 03:08 PM
That back cover listing is definitely for the isolated score.

I haven't had the DVD the isolated score came from for a few years now, and I made my DTS version of it (used to make this custom along with the OST) way back in 2006 or so.


I'll probably pick it up used somewhere just to have. There were three DVD releases of Jumanji but only the second one contained the isolated score track:

The original "flipper" DVD with fullscreen on one side, widescreen on the other, no extras
The "Collector's Edition" with extras including the isolated score
The specially-packaged "Deluxe Edition" which had new extras but dropped the isolated score

Just like the releases of "Legends Of The Fall", which also had three DVD releases that included the isolated score only on the second release.

Blu-ray versions of both films don't include the isolated score either.

Amanda
06-27-2014, 03:13 PM
SO, then, NO drum only tracks on the isolated film score certainly suggests they were treated as fx and not score. That wraps up my interest then. Cool. :)

lesterjd
06-27-2014, 06:45 PM
Thanks for the share, I'm happy to receive anything that's better than the commercial release so often they release scores that are to short the first time around and it all boils down to cost as we know.

Nicola
06-27-2014, 07:38 PM
...NO drum only tracks on the isolated film score certainly suggests they were treated as fx and not score. That wraps up my interest then...
Say what? You are not interested in that cue� just because someone (maybe GOD?) put it out from an iso file? Oh, please, be inspired by your taste and enthusiasm instead!

I uploaded the track here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkaBYgj-8a8&feature=youtu.be

*I* love it!

Calidoran
06-27-2014, 08:37 PM
Say what? You are not interested in that cue… just because someone (maybe GOD?) put it out from an iso file? Oh, please, be inspired by your taste and enthusiasm instead!

I uploaded the track here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkaBYgj-8a8&feature=youtu.be

*I* love it!

Noone "put it out" of the isolated score. That is clearly from the regular audio track of the DVD. Not what i would call a part of the score either, but source "music". The definition of what is a "complete" score has gone on forever and probably will continue after teatime as well. As long as people can't unite under one definition, there will always be these discussions. Is "You've got mail" complete without all the songs? Is "Contact" complete without the trumpet that plays at the funeral? That is a PERSONAL choice, but they are not a part of the score :)

Amanda
06-27-2014, 08:53 PM
Exactly, thank you.Nicola, it is not one person. NO version of the ISO or expanded score seems to contain the track. Neither the 26 track nor the 33 ISO. So, it IS possible they are all the same ripped repeatedly shared. But it is just as likely the makers of the ISO score did not consider it score. Although many of the isolated scores do often contain some source music. Bicentennial man for instance even contains snippets of songs played on the radio etc. So factoring that in, I would posit these drums were considered to be more fx than anything. Now, if you want it in, then just add the track to suit your taste. Easy peasy and everyone wins.

Calidoran
06-27-2014, 09:01 PM
What scene is it from? The one where the two boys bury the chest with the game or the scene where the chest is dug out again? I can hear the drums playing at the same time as the score at those two places, but it's not a part of the music in the isolated. Is it from any other scene where there is not music played? Tell me where and i'll try to rip it from the regular audio track if you want that track (i own the actual DVD with the isolated). If you have it but are asking why it was left out of THIS version posted here, it was the OPs personal choice and nothing you can do anything about. If you like it so much, go ahead and post your version of it :) it would be interesting to compare

Amanda
06-27-2014, 09:15 PM
Cal, in the youtube link, you CAN hear faint bird sounds, what I think are crickets and very faint voices in the very beginning of the track. I do feel that it makes no sense for it to not be on the ioso, but if that is the way the dvd has it then that's just the deal. You can put a rip in there sure, and many would not mind but the point of using the iso is to have all the tracks clean.

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Anyone have a nice front cover for this?

JHFan
06-27-2014, 09:24 PM
With few exceptions (Glory being one) I almost never include source music.

Almost all covers for the score, like the one that matches that isolated score back cover are butt-ugly.

That's why I just used the OST cover.

I was making Bicentennial Man into a new surround project but put it on hold to work on other stuff, but I'll be getting back to it soon.

When I made the surround version using the DVD I removed the songs in this score for obvious reasons. I did the same for Bicentennial Man as well.

Calidoran
06-27-2014, 10:30 PM
Ok, i've found the part in the film where these drums are playing - at about 23:10 to 24:30. And that would be right after the track called "Do You Miss Mom and Dad?" in the above cover and not one of the first.


I totally disagree with you. Also, those fades out/crossfades/cuts are exactly the reason why I definitely stopped purchasing original music. I won’t buy incomplete scores just because the labels like such ugly edits. Too bad.
In my opinion those percussions ARE part of the score; especially because they comment an important part of the movie. Otherwise I would not call myself “FILM-music fan”. :)

Hate to disappoint you then but what you linked to on Youtube is a custom mix of what's really heard in the film. The drums play for about 25 seconds and then there are no drums for at least 25 seconds and then they start playing again for 40 seconds so technically this should be in two parts.

Also, there is a medley of different songs playing when the woman who lives with the kids is cleaning up the house. No complaints about that missing? ;) And the track "Do You Miss Mom and Dad?" starts/fades in and ends/fades out with those same drums in the film, but they are not present in any version of that track

Amanda
06-27-2014, 10:36 PM
Apparently it is not unheard of for an isolated score to NOT contain the film mix of a cue. JH says that this is the case in several parts of The Aliens isolated score where the mix is off, seemingly being the album versions instead. O.o

But, that does not change the fact of only being able to get the proper cues through a rip. What is on the isolated track is what is there. Complaints should be directed to whoever made the call on what was or was not score..:/

JHFan
06-27-2014, 10:46 PM
The argument doesn't even make any sense because Nicola wants a butchered presentation of a film score, while complaining that an album presentation is a butchered presentation of a film score.

Except one is butchered, the other is as-written. How is a piece of music written and presented intact butchered?

Answer? It's not.

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Apparently it is not unheard of for an isolated score to NOT contain the film mix of a cue. JH says that this is the case in several parts of The Aliens isolated score where the mix is off, seemingly being the album versions instead. O.o



Yes, the ALIENS isolated score is a recreation of the "Final Theatrical" score, not the actual edited score as taken from the film's original audio stems.

ostgems
06-27-2014, 10:48 PM
thank you jhfan :)

Calidoran
06-27-2014, 11:16 PM
Ok, for those that absolutely want those drums, here you go:

Zippyshare.com - drums.rar (http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/4001797/file.html)

I did a hack'n'slash job of removing speech and sfx, but i think it sounds better than what's on the Youtube clip. And if you want it in it's correct chronological place, it comes right after "Do You Miss Mom and Dad?" listed on the cover here. Not sure what JHFan has named it...

Amanda
06-27-2014, 11:23 PM
And so I declare the conversation now dead in the water. Since it is established no isolated score or OST contains the edit, only a rip will do. And said rip is now provided. All winners. Move along, these aren't the cues you're looking for.

**These aren't the cues I'm looking for. Moving along** :awsm:

JHFan
06-27-2014, 11:35 PM
I did a hack'n'slash job of removing speech and sfx, but i think it sounds better than what's on the Youtube clip. And if you want it in it's correct chronological place, it comes right after "Do You Miss Mom and Dad?" listed on the cover here. Not sure what JHFan has named it...

That cue is a tracked piece, taken from the ending of the cue "Jumanji". It's when Alan and Sarah are returned to the past as kids after the game ends. That is why I didn't include it as that 'mom and dad' cue.

Calidoran
06-27-2014, 11:49 PM
Just curious here :) what is your definition of a "tracked piece"?

JHFan
06-28-2014, 12:29 AM
Just curious here :) what is your definition of a "tracked piece"?

A piece of music written to accompany one scene, but is used in another scene sometimes in edited (shortened or looped) form, sometimes repeatedly throughout different scenes.

Nicola
06-28-2014, 02:38 AM
Ok, for those that absolutely want those drums, here you go:

Zippyshare.com - drums.rar (http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/4001797/file.html)

I did a hack'n'slash job of removing speech and sfx, but i think it sounds better than what's on the Youtube clip....
THANK YOU!!! Oh, and *I* uploaded that youtube mix from the regular PAL DVD, yes. Sorry for the low quality.

However, great job thanks again! I just didn’t understand what exactly the source is.

Oh, and -sorry- just one “complaint”: both “Drums Pt I & II” end too early: there is still sound where you cut the pieces. Do you hear? Could you please reupload the entire thing?

Thanks again a million

Amanda
06-28-2014, 02:48 AM
:awsm:

Spectre8750
06-28-2014, 03:49 AM
I thought they were Musical Pieces written for a Scene, as opposed to the music just being written for the Movie? Makes sense what you said though JHFan.

Amanda
06-28-2014, 03:57 AM
Spectre, look at it like this. You how in Trek TOS, many episodes contain the same cues more or less a lot? Those cues were written for specific episodes and reused later. That is called tracked. And it is why, on a set of scores, often you will get all the music, but usually minus the tracked material as it was already presented on the set. So, while could in theory say the music from a favorite scene is missing, it really isn't per se as it IS in the set in ist's original form. Often these are editorial decisions made long after recording and can be quite arbitrary, choppy and brutal.

Spectre8750
06-28-2014, 04:07 AM
Wow, I've worked on Tracked Pieces and didn't fully know the explanation quite clear as you explained, thanks! I blame all my old Teachers. I was trained in the Art Of Sound Engineering by a hundred and two year old Amish man who was totally def, that might explain it. Hey I feel like that mail in course was just a scam, Darn!

Calidoran
06-28-2014, 08:54 AM
THANK YOU!!! Oh, and *I* uploaded that youtube mix from the regular PAL DVD, yes. Sorry for the low quality.

However, great job thanks again! I just didn’t understand what exactly the source is.

Oh, and -sorry- just one “complaint”: both “Drums Pt I & II” end too early: there is still sound where you cut the pieces. Do you hear? Could you please reupload the entire thing?

Thanks again a million

I suggest you file that complaint somewhere else then because THAT is EXACTLY what is on the DVD. I did no cutting WHATSOEVER. Every drumbeat is there as it was on the DVD. End of discussion. There just is no way of satisfying you, is there?


A piece of music written to accompany one scene, but is used in another scene sometimes in edited (shortened or looped) form, sometimes repeatedly throughout different scenes.

It's just that "Do You Miss Mom and Dad?" is playing in a different key than what is at the end of "Jumanji". And i always assumed that something Tracked meant that the same piece of music was used. Nevermind :) IMHO it's beautiful enough to be a part of the score, but this is your edit.

EDIT: I would call those two "Variations on a Theme" if anything ;)

Amanda
06-28-2014, 09:32 AM
Either way, it does not show on the iso score, so whatya gonna do. :)

tooheen
06-28-2014, 10:07 AM
A great score and effort

Nicola
06-28-2014, 12:28 PM
I suggest you file that complaint somewhere else then because THAT is EXACTLY what is on the DVD. I did no cutting WHATSOEVER. Every drumbeat is there as it was on the DVD. End of discussion. There just is no way of satisfying you, is there?
Do you see what I mean when I say that your “Drums part I and II” end too early? Yes or no? I am totally unable to edit wav files, but, at least, I don’t cut out music.
When the instruments stop playing you can still hear the music, right? Sadly, for some reason, you people are not interested in hearing the complete tracks. :(

SonicAdventure
06-28-2014, 01:38 PM
Do you see what I mean when I say that your �Drums part I and II� end too early? Yes or no? I am totally unable to edit wav files, but, at least, I don�t cut out music.
When the instruments stop playing you can still hear the music, right? Sadly, for some reason, you people are not interested in hearing the complete tracks. :(

Is there no end to you?

You see, my dear... it�s called a 'learning process'. You can do it yourself if you know how. It�s not too difficult. On the other hand... editing is, by your definition, 'butchering'. So you decide.

crazyackleholic
06-28-2014, 02:05 PM
Thanks!

Calidoran
06-28-2014, 02:22 PM
Do you see what I mean when I say that your “Drums part I and II” end too early? Yes or no? I am totally unable to edit wav files, but, at least, I don’t cut out music.
When the instruments stop playing you can still hear the music, right? Sadly, for some reason, you people are not interested in hearing the complete tracks. :(

Will you give up? As i said - THERE IS NOT ONE BEAT MISSING!!! What is in those two files is what was on the frigging DVD. The only editing i did was to try and remove speech and sfx and give you the frigging drums as was HEARD IN THE FILM. Not like what you put up on Youtube where you had chosen to do the same thing as JHFan did when he chose to merge some tracks and that you later told us was unacceptable.

There were two portions of drums, just as you hear in my two clips. I tried removing speech/sfx. I did a minor attempt at remastering. BUT I DID NOT REMOVE ONE SINGLE BEAT. The only thing that MIGHT be missing is a fraction of a second due to fadeout, but again - NOT ONE SINGLE BEAT IS MISSING. If you say otherwise, you are imagining things. If you keep insisting that, i will surely put you on ignore and suggest you seek professional help for your problem.


Sadly, for some reason, you people are not interested in hearing the complete tracks. :(

Sadly, for some reason, you are not interested in listening...

Nicola
06-28-2014, 02:40 PM
If you keep insisting that, i will surely put you on ignore and suggest you seek professional help for your problem.

First of all fuck you. And yes, please, put me into your putrid ignore list.


The only thing that MIGHT be missing is a fraction of a second due to fadeout,..

Bravo idiot, so you do understand if you want, don’t you? That’s exactly what I am talking about.

Calidoran
06-28-2014, 02:57 PM
I will put putrid where putrid belongs...

And the time it took for you to put the final period to that post is the same amount of time of fadeout that you are missing.

... i should know better than to try and help trolls

Nicola
06-28-2014, 03:13 PM
“Troll” told by you people, is a compliment! I am SO happy of being a troll here, as much as I was happy of being a troll at the introia & fsm message boards. So thank you!

Hey people, I'm talking just about music here, I'm not fucking your nasty mothers.

JHFan
06-28-2014, 03:49 PM
First of all fuck you. And yes, please, put me into your putrid ignore list.
Bravo idiot, so you do understand if you want, don’t you? That’s exactly what I am talking about.

“Troll” told by you people, is a compliment! I am SO happy of being a troll here, as much as I was happy of being a troll at the introia & fsm message boards. So thank you!

Hey people, I'm talking just about music here, I'm not fucking your nasty mothers.

5 years of this crap and you still haven't grown up. You've only gotten worse in that time.

Pathetic.

seymourclearly
06-28-2014, 03:54 PM
Many thanks to something I had not heard by Horner.

JHFan
06-28-2014, 03:55 PM
It's just that "Do You Miss Mom and Dad?" is playing in a different key than what is at the end of "Jumanji". And i always assumed that something Tracked meant that the same piece of music was used. Nevermind :) IMHO it's beautiful enough to be a part of the score, but this is your edit.

EDIT: I would call those two "Variations on a Theme" if anything ;)


I've often found that so many tracked cues are subjected to editing just as often as them being left alone but stuck in other parts of a film.

Nicola
06-28-2014, 04:33 PM
5 years of this crap and you still haven't grown up. You've only gotten worse in that time.

Pathetic.What are you idiot writing about? In your opinion I’d grown up if now I liked the shit?

crazyackleholic
06-28-2014, 06:43 PM
I will put putrid where putrid belongs...

And the time it took for you to put the final period to that post is the same amount of time of fadeout that you are missing.

... i should know better than to try and help trolls

If you think he's a troll, then stop arguing with him. Don't feed the animals, they can get very vicious. :)

Amanda
06-28-2014, 11:26 PM
“Troll” told by you people, is a compliment! I am SO happy of being a troll here, as much as I was happy of being a troll at the introia & fsm message boards. So thank you!

Hey people, I'm talking just about music here, I'm not fucking your nasty mothers.

Now, see, I was quite polite to you, and ready to entertain a DISCUSSION about the music. But now, now I get this attitude upon waking up? No thank you. Any merit in your point of view, you just threw out the window.

Lockdown
06-29-2014, 01:35 AM
The Drum Part 1 & 2 edits are perfect, when I looked for this score, I always wanted the drums..and now we have them thanks to Calidoran. Thanks so much, man!

Calidoran
06-29-2014, 09:26 AM
I wouldn't call them perfect. They are available. As i said, i did a hack'n'slash job in the editing. The simplest way to remove speech and sfx was to simply remove gaps of frequencies. Which i guess worked good(ish) enough since the drums are in the low freqencies anyway. But load it up in Audition (or any other program that lets you see a spectral analysis of the frequencies) and have a look. It sure ain't pretty ;)

scorecrave
07-08-2014, 04:43 AM
As always, thank you JHFan. You are THE best.

Minnasan
07-08-2014, 12:13 PM
Thank you!

SonicAdventure
07-08-2014, 01:37 PM
Why this doesn�t receive more love is a mystery to me. It�s well done and almost complete, there�s no reason to ignore it.

scorecrave
07-22-2014, 12:57 AM
I did a lot of minor level changes to several cues.

The Prologue / Main Title has a louder piano over the ethnic flute, some of the near-silent string passages are a bit louder and easier to hear, I added all the short (as in between 15 to 40 seconds) cues together or to longer cues and did a few re-arranging of pieces in those cues for a better musical flow. It isn't perfect but it's not bad a listen.

I completely heard the difference with the piano being louder than the ethnic flute before I read this! I know Jumanji like the back of my hand and I commend you on your edition of the score.

---------- Post added at 05:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:53 PM ----------


Do you see what I mean when I say that your �Drums part I and II� end too early? Yes or no? I am totally unable to edit wav files, but, at least, I don�t cut out music.
When the instruments stop playing you can still hear the music, right? Sadly, for some reason, you people are not interested in hearing the complete tracks. :(

If you have a MAC, just use Garageband. If you have a Windows, I can't help ya.

Otherwise, if you're really craving the the drums, just pick up the original score. It it bookmarked by the drum beat.

Amanda
07-22-2014, 04:57 PM
A google search brought up this image for a cover. No idea from where or by whom though.

(http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/amandag68/media/JumanjiComplete_zps5a5d4759.jpg.html)

crazyackleholic
07-22-2014, 05:27 PM
I've got this one: (don't know the source either)


rob131
07-22-2014, 06:12 PM
Thanks

The Warriors
07-23-2014, 08:12 AM
talking about cutting percussions and other things from a tune i.e. look at Rocky IV the film version WAR had Horns just before the end of the tune but they left that out now they should of put that in the tune it was on the film i don't see it without the Horns they cut it straight to the end of the song i mentioned it to Intrada i didn't get many responses but one person mention that was what Vince DiCola wanted to do what was that about putting in more effort on the film for the music then they don't bring the official score out to years later while bringing a not so good motion picture soundtrack out then they cut and make dents in what was meant to be like the film version sometimes they get paid to much to not always give the fans what they want.

Kraven Juelle
08-28-2014, 05:55 AM
Thank you so much for this JHFan, it's wonderful.
And thanks also to Calidoran for the Drums, they're fantastic!

gotaro
02-08-2015, 02:12 AM
Thanks!!

your_majesty
02-08-2015, 11:59 AM
Thanks

zaratorman2
02-08-2015, 09:43 PM
Thanks for sharing.

anonymousremains
08-08-2015, 03:51 AM
always love your stuff JHfan

: )

Johnnyboy4
08-08-2015, 04:32 AM
Thanks a lot!

Creativeawesome
08-08-2015, 04:51 AM
Thanks :)

thegrizz70x7
10-11-2016, 09:23 AM
hey guys, so I'm working on a brand spanking new cover for this. Just randomly, decided some of these custom Horner scores needed new artwork. Should be up later tomorrow. In case anyone's even looking at this thread...

uncut1
10-11-2016, 10:24 PM
thank you

Mirren2
10-13-2016, 01:11 AM
Thank you JHFan!

Lumberg
10-13-2016, 02:14 AM
Thanks!

thegrizz70x7
10-14-2016, 08:57 AM
Ok, a few days later on that cover than I'd planned, sorry! Anyways, here we go. This was fun to work on. Although that black book teaser poster is cool, I wanted something a little more lively for a custom artwork. There really only seems to be one main poster design, with a couple twists on it. The BluRay version is nice and shiny, but way too garish and colorful for my taste. I prefer the older style poster, with mellower browns and more moody.
At first I figured I'd remove the sky section at the top to give it an enveloping black edge, figured it'd be moodier, and would match more the tone of that original album cover. Then I ended up adding the sky back in and kinda liked it after all. Decided to save both versions, so pick whichever you prefer. Not totally satisfied with the font treatment, but I suppose it works, and is close enough to the design of the original.
Hope you guys enjoy these!
(let me know if there's any other of these JHFan custom Horner's that could use a new cover...)




Dave999
10-14-2016, 09:04 AM
(let me know if there's any other of these JHFan custom Horner's that could use a new cover...)

You need to click on "share" and then use the "hotlink for forum" URL.

EDIT: never mind, you just fixed the links.

Since this is a "custom complete" score thread where you posted these covers, wouldn't those covers better say "complete motion picture score"?

thegrizz70x7
10-15-2016, 12:01 AM
You need to click on "share" and then use the "hotlink for forum" URL.

EDIT: never mind, you just fixed the links.

Since this is a "custom complete" score thread where you posted these covers, wouldn't those covers better say "complete motion picture score"?

Hmm, yeah, I need to learn all the fixes for properly posting images here.

As to the Complete... Personally I tend to not like Complete/Extended on albums. Somehow it feels more bootleggy to me, even though of course there's official Expanded albums now all the time. Complete is fine, but Extended specifically looks cheap to me. Anyways, I can make a version with Complete instead. Although if I just keep it this way, people can also use it as a replacement for the regular album, instead of being limited to this specific edit. But choices are nice, thanks for the feedback!
Here 'tis: (also ever-so-slightly changed the white trim effect on the James Horner name)


Ivanova2
10-26-2016, 06:20 PM
Many thanks!

crazyackleholic
11-25-2016, 01:00 PM
Ok, for those that absolutely want those drums, here you go:

Zippyshare.com - drums.rar (http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/4001797/file.html)

I did a hack'n'slash job of removing speech and sfx, but i think it sounds better than what's on the Youtube clip. And if you want it in it's correct chronological place, it comes right after "Do You Miss Mom and Dad?" listed on the cover here. Not sure what JHFan has named it...

Can someone re-upload this?

uncut1
11-25-2016, 02:26 PM
thank you

codyofgvs
11-25-2016, 04:09 PM
I want those drums too!

blackie74
11-25-2016, 05:26 PM
thank you

Trian
11-26-2016, 07:31 PM
Thanks

frafak (uz2b)
12-18-2017, 01:08 PM
Thanks a lot !

PrinceSnake
10-12-2019, 09:29 PM
link is dead

MAYniac91
10-13-2019, 08:46 PM
Is a re-upload possible?