Check <A HREF="http://www.nintendocentre.com/gv/content/news/full.php?id=255">this</A> out.

Initially, it was rumored that the DS would be priced at $200, and there was no way I was going to spend that much money on the system for a while. But, the apparent $50 drop makes it a lot more interesting, as I am now seriously considering buying this soon after it comes out. I'm also surprised with how soon it is being released, since it was first stated that the DS and PSP would ship within the time frame of the same week or so. It now looks like Sony's attempt to take over the hand-held market won't be for another three or four months, at least. I see this as a big advantage for Nintendo.

Your thoughts about the system, the price, and the move to release it this soon?

A very clever move. If this came after the PSTwo announcement, Nintendo know what they're doing.

Either way, the PSP aint gonna be under $200. Also, Nintendo has some shockingly good support for this console. Sony doesn't have anything really solid announced. I'm sure many of you will taunt me by saying "OH THEY HAVE SOMETHING HIDDEN." I hope they don't. To see them fail would make me pleased.

Going off topic with the PS...Two!

I CAN SLAP PEOPLE WITH MY PS2 WITH EASE NOW! ^_^

cool all they need to do now is to confirm a pal release for the ds and then i can start saving up

Originally posted by Ac-ace0
cool all they need to do now is to confirm a pal release for the ds and then i can start saving up I can confirm that there will be a pal/european release of the Nintendo DS early next year.

psp = pwned

;)

Originally posted by ud�
psp = pwned

;)
Actually, I'm sure of that. Nintendo DS has over 120 games currently being developed for the system, and it has a lot of support from many companies. So that should mean more success.

Dude... consider what you just said very carefully. >_>

Originally posted by Terry-kun
Dude... consider what you just said very carefully. >_> I can see the logic, but I also know the stigma.

It's a sad world.

Nah, you should have seen it before he edited it. ;D

Nintendo DS + X rated games = Touchie Feel Safe Sex.

That's a great idea for a game that would sell like hotcakes in Japan, actually!

On the touch-pad, you've got a spread-eagle vagina.

On the screen, you've got a lady's face. Pleasure the vagina with your finger on the touch-pad, and watch the reaction on the screen.

FAMITSU WOULD GIVE IT GAME OF THE YEAR! WHICH WOULD BE HARDCORE, BECAUSE FAMITSU IS SO HARDCORE AND STUFF, AND REAL HARDCORE GAMERS LOOK AT FAMITSU SCORES INSTEAD OF EGM OR GAMEPRO OR IGN OR "BOB'S GAMEZ" ONES!

Originally posted by Terry-kun
Nah, you should have seen it before he edited it. ;D
I deny the fact* that I edited it.

*<small>It's true, I had something bad in there</small>

For it to sell in Japan, they'd need to call it like. "Janders Girls" or something.

what did you say?_?

Originally posted by Terry-kun
That's a great idea for a game that would sell like hotcakes in Japan, actually!

On the touch-pad, you've got a spread-eagle vagina.



I was thinking more about breasts but... SURE that'll work too!

Hm, in my honest opinion when companies bring out consoles they are so much better NOT being hand held, lets see how the nintendo DS copes after its release.

Well, since your "honest opinion" is only backed by 3 companies (Nintendo, Sega, and Neogeo being the only three that have made both consoles and handhelds), We can validate your reasoning by throwing an anvil at you!

Originally posted by barret.wallace
Hm, in my honest opinion when companies bring out consoles they are so much better NOT being hand held, lets see how the nintendo DS copes after its release. Yes Nintendo should not release it's handheld system as a handheld system, I completly agree.

Originally posted by MogKnight
Well, since your "honest opinion" is only backed by 3 companies (Nintendo, Sega, and Neogeo being the only three that have made both consoles and handhelds), We can validate your reasoning by throwing an anvil at you!


Bandai has done both as well.

And if TurboExpress counts, then add NEC to the list.

Originally posted by rezo



Bandai has done both as well.

And if TurboExpress counts, then add NEC to the list.

You're not helping me rezo. ;_;

Don't forget Atari.

Lynx, right?

the current gamefaqs poll has 42% or something saying they are buying a DS and like 22% saying PSP.


Goooo nintendo!fucksony

hot damn thats soon and in the us first!, but WAY too much money for me to be spending while at college, but how much is the psp? if it is MUCH less than the ds then i might buy it.

It will be more than the DS. Significantly.

I wouldn't be surprised if the PSP is at least $229.99

I'm expecting the PSP to be about as much as a new console.

I still want to get a DS and a PSP, but I probably will wait a while for the PSP, whereas I'll probably pick up a DS pretty close to launch.

Smokey, I want to know what horrible things you said about Nintendo!

I don't think the PSP is even coming out within the next several months, so there will be plenty of time to save up for it.

Nonetheless, I am still not buying it.

Originally posted by Smokey
I wouldn't be surprised if the PSP is at least $229.99 That's optimistic, to say the least. I've heard numbers close to $300-$350.

these price estimates are not happy, even so i wont be bying either for a long time. not sure if i prefer one over the other right now.

I give it a bare minimum of 300 bucks, myself. Sony's doing what they always do and trying to pump it up to a multi-purpose uber machine, and that shit ain't cheap.

Originally posted by TCK
That's optimistic, to say the least. I've heard numbers close to $300-$350.
Well, $250 is what I'm guessing, but that's without knowing what is going to come with the handheld. Sony still has time to add more features and what-not, so as of right now, I'm guessing that would be the price. I don't see how PSP can even come close to the DS in sales if it costs twice as much.

Because of all the people who are like, "ANYEIHGEN MAKED BY NINTENGAY SI FOR LITTAL KIIDSSESS!!!!!1111"

That strategy seems to work for Sony.. they outsell everyone else by alot. =( I hate Sony... I lost all faith in them when my ps2 started refusing to load things.. cheap bastards. :(

Originally posted by Terry-kun
Because of all the people who are like, "ANYEIHGEN MAKED BY NINTENGAY SI FOR LITTAL KIIDSSESS!!!!!1111" I dunno, I think there's a backlash against Sony. A lot of people are prefering the DS to the PSP, including the (albeit credible, rofl) GameFAQs poll.

PSP looks like N-Gage mark 2, imo. The only reason it has any credibility is because of the words "Sony" on the box.

But I bet Sony will out-advertise Nintendo.

Originally posted by ud�
But I bet Sony will out-advertise Nintendo.

thats a given.

no matter what either of them cost itll be too much for my meager budget.

Regarding the PSP battery life (http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=2305)

I think it's a pretty stupid way to go about things. =\

Originally posted by TCK
I dunno, I think there's a backlash against Sony. A lot of people are prefering the DS to the PSP, including the (albeit credible, rofl) GameFAQs poll. People that use GameFAQs represent a pretty good cross-section of different types of gamers. I'd say it's pretty credible.

Originally posted by TCK
I dunno, I think there's a backlash against Sony. A lot of people are prefering the DS to the PSP, including the (albeit credible, rofl) GameFAQs poll.

I don't know about that. Sony really hasn't given people all that much reason to backlash against them. They still have the most widely owned console with the most games available. They still have an enormous marketing budget and a brand name that is indeed what "Nintendo" used to be.

I'm not saying the PSP will be more successful than the DS... at least initially, I seriously doubt that it will be. All I'm saying is that it will give it a serious run for its money, and it definitely is not going to be another N-Gage. There are enough people out there who will buy it on brand name alone to make it successful, whether it eventually out-sells the DS or not.

Originally posted by TCK
I dunno, I think there's a backlash against Sony. A lot of people are prefering the DS to the PSP, including the (albeit credible, rofl) GameFAQs poll.
There may be a backlash if the PSP ends up near the $300 range, even $250; Seeing as how the DS is only $150. Sony fans may get pissed off that they are jacking up the prices of their systems compared to Nintendo, and maybe even more when the PS3 comes out. From the path that Nintendo is headed, it is apparent that they plan to release their systems at a much less price than it's competitors.

Originally posted by rezo
I think it's a pretty stupid way to go about things. =\

True, and I hear DVDs reduce it to 2 hours.

2 hours! That's barely enough to watch a DVD. But then, having DVDs on a portable console is a pretty dumb idea, to begin with.

Also, I don't think out-advertising is really a given. I think it's more the fault of other companies for neglecting that area, rather than Sony having an intrinsic advantage.

The only reason that people will buy the PSP is that its made by Sony...everyone know that Sony are good in electronic...and the graphic will be insane too...but still, I will not buy it. I have more chance to buy the DS than the PSP.

For an unknow reason, I would not like having a portative console with stunning graphic. I think that Snes graphics are cool! for portative console...

Well Snoy characteristically is just really good at marketing, and they DO have a very very large advertising budget, but it's not like Nintendo doesn't. I think that Duo is totally right in the advertising regard.

What I think is going to carry the PSP is simply reputation. In a general sense, Snoy's reputation for producing high quality electronis (which generally they do) and in a more specific sense their reputation for being the last word when it comes to current-day game systems.

I mean, I work at Blockbuster and we have two and a half aisles devoted entirely to PlayStation 2 games, and half an aisle each for Xbox and GameCube. People just buy Snoy systems because they believe Snoy is going to give them the most for their money, and because so many people do that, Snoy gets the most developer support and it's all a big vicious cycle.

Just look at what happened with the PS2. It launched with NO good games, was a technically flawed system, and was severely undershipped. It was probably the worst console launch in history (don't start with the N64; that may have launched with only Mario 64, but at least THAT WAS A GOOD GAME!). But that really didn't matter: People lined up in the snow to buy one and happily took home their copies of X-Squad and Street Fighter EX3. I imagine the PSP launch will happen in the same way, only on a smaller scale since Nintendo is much more firmly entrenched in this market than they were in home consoles at that time.

read plz: http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10/04/news_6109524.html

Could be as late as a year behind the DS.

Extra points++ 90 minute batterylife wtf.

E;fb. I'll kill you ashin.

E:fb? wtf/

http://www2.nintendo.co.jp/ds/movie/syokai.swf

and: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/index.php

if you click on one of the games, there'll be a button with a black and white DS on it that will take you to screenshots.

I think TechTV had something on the PSP about how most of the launch games were going to just be ports of currently existing PS2 games...

Also, I think the main thing behind the PSP is going to be for peeps who prefer their PS2 games over the usual Pokemon variants you'll find on Nintendo's handheld consoles, and just don't want to hassle with loading up all that wiring and junk they'd have to do to take their PS2 with them, and use the AC Adapter in a wall jack or something when they're relaxing in the hotel in the evenings while on road trips or whatever.

True, your average low-budget gamer isn't going to go for it. But then, since when has Sony really ever marketed to the low-budget folks out there?

I think Odin is pretty much spot-on. Sony's target audience is and always has been people who want fancy-schmancy stuff that is "cool," and I think they pretty much have the market cornered in that category.

Really, the DS and PSP have the potential to be the most even two consoles since the SNES and Genesis. MAYBE IT'S ANOTHER GOLDEN AGE WAITING TO HAPPEN!

(oh wait 3D. =\)

Speaking of which, about the changes they made to the PS2 itself. Did their shrinking it down like they did have any negative impact on the hardware itself?

You know, cos they made it like half it's former dimensions and weight or something.

Speaking of which, about the changes they made to the PS2 itself. Did their shrinking it down like they did have any negative impact on the hardware itself?

You know, cos they made it like half it's former dimensions and weight or something.Can't use the HD, hence no FFXI. Sorta defeats the point of the network adaptor.

Square Enix is releasing a remake of FF3 on the DS.

Legendary, imo.

Can't use the HD, hence no FFXI. Sorta defeats the point of the network adaptor.

Doesn't affect me, cos PC is for games like that, and pwns consoles anyway.

Though I'm sure they could fix that problem (i.e., redesign HD to fit in the new PS2 and just dump the old junk). Kinda like how they did with the PSX-PSOne conversion.