JHFan
03-14-2014, 02:34 AM
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laohu
03-14-2014, 02:52 AM
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c�d�master88
03-14-2014, 04:38 AM
Thanks a bunch! Was gonna do this years ago but it kinda slipped by me.

moviemusicsi
03-14-2014, 04:41 AM
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liveorletdie
03-14-2014, 06:35 AM
Thanks!!

DjawadiFan
03-14-2014, 07:23 AM
Thank you very much.

the marvin
03-14-2014, 10:07 AM
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Prospero
03-14-2014, 10:20 AM
Thanks!

DreamTheater
03-14-2014, 11:02 AM
What a great idea JHFan. Always wondered why some tracks were not included in that otherwise brilliant release from Intrada. I believe it's a rights issue?

Minnasan
03-14-2014, 11:08 AM
Thank you!

Rocklegend2000
03-14-2014, 11:14 AM
What a great idea JHFan. Always wondered why some tracks were not included in that otherwise brilliant release from Intrada. I believe it's a rights issue?

James Horner didn�t want them released....

Tchaikovsky
03-14-2014, 11:19 AM
Thanks again for another fine 80's-Horner-score! :)

Kaolin
03-14-2014, 12:22 PM
Thanks.

JHFan
03-14-2014, 12:47 PM
What a great idea JHFan. Always wondered why some tracks were not included in that otherwise brilliant release from Intrada. I believe it's a rights issue?


James Horner didn�t want them released....

Horner himself assembled the album's contents and as his fans are fully aware, he prefers longer pieces of music and doesn't really go for shorter cues on albums.

Not all the unreleased cues are short, but in this case I doubt it has anything to do with rights and was simply a case of wanting a good album presentation in addition to his preference for avoiding shorter cues on albums.

ponsngo
03-14-2014, 02:16 PM
As a James Horner fan myself, I am delighted by your upload and thank you very much, JHFan!

yoyes
03-14-2014, 03:10 PM
thank you very much

DreamTheater
03-14-2014, 04:42 PM
Horner himself assembled the album's contents and as his fans are fully aware, he prefers longer pieces of music and doesn't really go for shorter cues on albums.

Not all the unreleased cues are short, but in this case I doubt it has anything to do with rights and was simply a case of wanting a good album presentation in addition to his preference for avoiding shorter cues on albums.

Wasn't there something going on with 'Bees!' though? In that it was a bit too similar to another composer's work and couldn't be released officially? But so is the main title. I think I read that somewhere.

Anyway 'Honey' always manages to put a huge smile on my face, one of Horner's most fun scores by a mile. :)

anakinbetrayal
03-14-2014, 04:51 PM
Excellent share !! Many thanks to you :)

JHFan
03-14-2014, 07:48 PM
Wasn't there something going on with 'Bees!' though? In that it was a bit too similar to another composer's work and couldn't be released officially? But so is the main title. I think I read that somewhere.

Anyway 'Honey' always manages to put a huge smile on my face, one of Horner's most fun scores by a mile. :)

That applied to "Main Title", "Strange Neighbors", "Test Run", "Shrunk", "The Machine Works", "Watering The Grass", "Flying Szalinski", "Lawn Mower", "Eaten Alive" and "Thanksgiving Dinner" from the Intrada release. If rights issues were why shorter cues like "Shrinking-Thinking Couch" were left off, these other cues couldn't be included either since they are more of the same.

Those cues on that album feature (intentional) references to Raymond Scott's "Powerhouse" and / or Nino Rota's "Amarcord" theme.

The main theme itself features some of Rota's theme in its second half (the resolution to the saxophone-driven theme. Not the up/down part at first, but the second part that repeats twice and then a third time to resolve) while the secondary, more menacing music is a derivation of the Scott melody, itself used in countless cartoons as a "Mad Scientist" / "Assembly Line" theme. Its use in this score makes perfect sense.

"Quark To The Rescue" (Unreleased), "Ant Rodeo" and "Thanksgiving Dinner" feature another reference, this time from a contemporary score (at the time): "The Goonies" by Dave Grusin. Its use also makes sense as the score is so full of these deliberate parodies and the fact that "Goonies" was a children's adventure movie and this movie is also that, again makes sense and it's a fun reference.

This score has always been one of my dearest favorite Horner scores ever since I was little when the movie came out, long before I officially became a fan of film music.

Petros
03-14-2014, 09:31 PM
Thank you very much.

Starfleet
03-14-2014, 11:21 PM
Thank you

thw2
03-15-2014, 12:46 AM
Many thanks!

starwatcher
03-15-2014, 01:21 AM
Many thanks!

DreamTheater
03-18-2014, 07:39 PM
That applied to "Main Title", "Strange Neighbors", "Test Run", "Shrunk", "The Machine Works", "Watering The Grass", "Flying Szalinski", "Lawn Mower", "Eaten Alive" and "Thanksgiving Dinner" from the Intrada release. If rights issues were why shorter cues like "Shrinking-Thinking Couch" were left off, these other cues couldn't be included either since they are more of the same.

Those cues on that album feature (intentional) references to Raymond Scott's "Powerhouse" and / or Nino Rota's "Amarcord" theme.

The main theme itself features some of Rota's theme in its second half (the resolution to the saxophone-driven theme. Not the up/down part at first, but the second part that repeats twice and then a third time to resolve) while the secondary, more menacing music is a derivation of the Scott melody, itself used in countless cartoons as a "Mad Scientist" / "Assembly Line" theme. Its use in this score makes perfect sense.

"Quark To The Rescue" (Unreleased), "Ant Rodeo" and "Thanksgiving Dinner" feature another reference, this time from a contemporary score (at the time): "The Goonies" by Dave Grusin. Its use also makes sense as the score is so full of these deliberate parodies and the fact that "Goonies" was a children's adventure movie and this movie is also that, again makes sense and it's a fun reference.

This score has always been one of my dearest favorite Horner scores ever since I was little when the movie came out, long before I officially became a fan of film music.

And I thought I was a Horner nut... Shows how much I know. Great post!

And yes Honey is the type of score that makes you a fan for life of that creative medium called film music. Makes the movie as endearing now as it has ever been.

qqqqqqw
03-18-2014, 09:13 PM
Thnx!! :)

JHFan
03-18-2014, 09:39 PM
Wikipedia's info on "Powerhouse":

Powerhouse (instrumental) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerhouse_(instrumental)#Use_in_cartoons)

Spoiler-tagged for length




The first use of "Powerhouse" in a cartoon occurred in the 1943 Warner Bros. Looney Tunes short Porky Pig's Feat, directed by Frank Tashlin. Also in 1943, it was used in the Private Snafu shorts Gripes, Spies, and Rumors. It was subsequently featured in over 40 other Warner Bros. cartoons. The most well-known "assembly-line" usage of "Powerhouse B" occurs in Bob Clampett's Baby Bottleneck (1946), in which newborn babies (of various species) are processed on a conveyor belt in time to the melody.

The "Powerhouse A" section featured prominently during Bugs Bunny's altercation with a gremlin in Clampett's 1943 Merrie Melodies cartoon Falling Hare. The 1953 Merrie Melodies cartoon Duck Dodgers in the 24�th Century, directed by Chuck Jones, contains Stalling's lengthiest adaptation of the "Powerhouse A" section, clocking in at one minute and twenty-five seconds.

Other Warner cartoons which contain quotes from "Powerhouse" include Birdy and the Beast (1944), Cat-Tails for Two (1953), Early to Bet (1951), Falling Hare (1943), His Bitter Half (1950), House-Hunting Mice (1948), It's Hummer Time (1950), Jumpin' Jupiter (1955), Rocket Squad (1956), Sheep in the Deep (1962), Compressed Hare (1961), and dozens more.

In the 1960s, producer Hal Seeger and composer/arranger Winston Sharples adapted "Powerhouse" and other Scott compositions in dozens of episodes of their Batfink cartoon series.

The original Raymond Scott Quintette recordings, including "Powerhouse," were licensed in the early 1990s for soundtrack usage in twelve episodes of The Ren and Stimpy Show. Various passages of the tune have been arranged for use in The Simpsons, Duckman, The Bernie Mac Show, and The Drew Carey Show (in a brief scene involving an animated character). An entire 1993 episode of Animaniacs, "Toy Shop Terror," was set to Warner Bros. music director Richard Stone's arrangement of the composition. "Powerhouse" also served as bumper theme music for the Cartoon Network from 1997 to 2002, and can be heard as a systematic rock theme in the 2003 feature film Looney Tunes: Back in Action.

"Powerhouse" has been used In The Simpsons four times. The first occurs in ""And Maggie Makes Three" (Season 6, Episode 13) during a scene at a bowling alley. In the episode "Bart Has Two Mommies" (Season 17, Episode 14), "Powerhouse" B is adapted in a scene that pays homage to the 1937 Disney short, The Old Mill, when Homer Simpson gets caught in the Old Mill while trying to save his Rubber Duckie. In the episode "Little Big Girl" (Season 18, Episode 12), "Powerhouse" was used during the sequence where the fire at Cletus' farm is lit. In the episode "The Fool Monty" (Season 22, Episode 6), "Powerhouse" was adapted as background music for a construction scene in which Charles Montgomery Burns, having lost his memory, is led to a dangerous construction site by Homer Simpson, who is seeks revenge for Burns' years of cruel behavior. Burns walks along moving girders, narrowly avoids flying rivets, and other well-worn cartoon construction site gags. Simpsons creator Matt Groening once ranked "Powerhouse" as #14 on a list of his "100 Favorite Things."

"Powerhouse" was adapted without attribution by composer James Horner in the soundtrack of the 1989 film Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. The Horner composition, titled "Power Play," resulted in legal action by Scott's U.S. publisher, Music Sales Corporation, against Walt Disney Pictures for failure to credit the work's original composer. The dispute was ultimately settled out of court.

This wikipedia entry about Horner's music is slightly incorrect, because "Powerplay" is song used in the movie and is shown in the end credits and has nothing to do with the score, and in all these years no one has ever shown any proof of the lawsuit beyond a nasty mention of it on the Raymond Scott website.

Inntel
04-13-2014, 12:52 AM
Thanks.

scoreman79
04-13-2014, 01:46 AM
JHFan, if I remember correctly, Honey I shrunk the Kids had the end credits changed (due to the legal action). The original theatrical release didn't have it mentioned.

JHFan
04-13-2014, 02:08 AM
JHFan, if I remember correctly, Honey I shrunk the Kids had the end credits changed (due to the legal action). The original theatrical release didn't have it mentioned.

Yes, "Theme from 'Amarcord'" by Nino Rota is credited on screen, but not "Powerhouse". It's alleged that the Powerhouse credit is on the original score cue sheets instead.

I'm assuming it was changed for the home video release if the theatrical release originally didn't have it.

scorecrave
04-16-2014, 02:29 AM
I never get tired of this score. Well before I started collecting film scores, I loved this movie as a kid and remembered the fantastic music. I listen to this score at least once a month. It's a real joy and makes me happy, no matter what. I would love to hear something as cheerful and fun as this, again, from James Horner. I guess the last thing I can think of was The Legend of Zorro, which I was in fact just listening to today! :-)

PALIM PALIM
04-16-2014, 08:18 AM
Thank you very much.

Amanda
04-16-2014, 12:34 PM
I never get tired of this score. Well before I started collecting film scores, I loved this movie as a kid and remembered the fantastic music. I listen to this score at least once a month. It's a real joy and makes me happy, no matter what. I would love to hear something as cheerful and fun as this, again, from James Horner. I guess the last thing I can think of was The Legend of Zorro, which I was in fact just listening to today! :-)

This could be a function of how "serious" the producers et al want the film to be perceived. These days every film seems to feel the need for enough gravitas in it to yank the sun out of orbit.

scorecrazy69
04-16-2014, 06:35 PM
Wow! Thanks so much! I've had the bootleg on CD for years. It's really nice to finally get a lossless version. I'll have to buy this one for sure - gotta support the labels that are offering us so many great scores these past few years!

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This could be a function of how "serious" the producers et al want the film to be perceived. These days every film seems to feel the need for enough gravitas in it to yank the sun out of orbit.

Hahaha! That is so freaking true!!

walles
05-10-2014, 10:30 AM
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KevinG
05-10-2014, 01:16 PM
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kamui99
05-10-2014, 05:25 PM
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07-26-2014, 04:29 AM
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07-26-2014, 04:35 AM
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07-26-2014, 04:37 AM
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08-13-2014, 04:24 AM
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08-13-2014, 01:00 PM
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09-22-2014, 10:11 PM
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Bioscope
09-23-2014, 04:35 AM
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_Worf_
09-23-2014, 08:59 AM
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PaperGhost
10-30-2014, 08:04 PM
Thanks for sharing this great score from an equally great movie! I'm looking forward to hearing it again

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10-31-2014, 06:26 PM
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11-01-2014, 12:23 PM
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01-10-2015, 08:26 PM
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Lockdown
06-04-2015, 03:14 AM
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06-04-2015, 08:32 AM
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06-04-2015, 12:57 PM
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06-04-2015, 07:05 PM
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06-04-2015, 11:15 PM
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06-05-2015, 12:30 AM
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06-05-2015, 12:32 AM
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elliomen
06-06-2015, 09:24 PM
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Azetlor
06-24-2015, 10:27 PM
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06-24-2015, 10:34 PM
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dlh9690
07-15-2015, 05:08 PM
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thefieldster
07-15-2015, 08:31 PM
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07-27-2016, 09:27 AM
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09-01-2016, 03:46 AM
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