disgaeahavok
02-09-2014, 09:54 PM
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This movie is so good! It has many layers to it and it actually has a story! This movie has the biggest plot twist that you never see coming! The soundtrack to this is a horror lover's wet dream. So I ripped it for y'all! Plus, the original mix was mono so it actually sounds like an official release! No voices whatsoever and FX is minimal if not nonexistent! And for you who worry if this is the rescored "disco" version, fear not! This is the original soundtrack! If you're faint of heart, don't listen to this though! This is a very frightening soundtrack! Many loud stabs of shrill music and music just filled with doom. Very enjoyable to listen to though. Not a single dud in the mix! Enjoy!



https://mega.co.nz/#!RERi1AYJ!FSQUeIOS_3fMhYnIkYwlmfp-6dgNlkLCWqOub9tfsFU

Video highlights here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAjXHe6enjiwOO2L5RJNIfLTFOonL039f

wol1
02-10-2014, 01:57 AM
wow thanks! I have been a fan of this movie and the music for a long time!:awsm:

dsguardian
02-10-2014, 03:00 AM
Out of curiosity, what do you mean by the rescored disco version? Was the movie rescored with disco music at some point? (I don't know much about this score, so I'm just curious.)

Which Doctor?
02-10-2014, 03:18 AM
Thanks!

disgaeahavok
02-10-2014, 03:57 AM
Out of curiosity, what do you mean by the rescored disco version? Was the movie rescored with disco music at some point? (I don't know much about this score, so I'm just curious.)

Apparently, there was a DVD released with a new score at some point. People hated it. The version I have is the newer Anchor Bay release. Amazon.com: Happy Birthday to Me: Melissa Sue Anderson, Glenn Ford, Lawrence Dane, Sharon Acker, Frances Hyland (II), Tracey E. Bregman, Jack Blum, Matt Craven, Lenore Zann, David Eisner, Lisa Langlois, Michel-Ren� Labelle, Richard Rebiere, Lesleh Do (http://www.amazon.com/Happy-Birthday-Melissa-Sue-Anderson/dp/B0002VYOVS) Read the reviews here to see all the hate.

Elvinhawke
02-10-2014, 04:13 AM
Thanks for all your hard work, disgaea :)

dsguardian
02-10-2014, 04:19 AM
Apparently, there was a DVD released with a new score at some point. People hated it. The version I have is the newer Anchor Bay release. Amazon.com: Happy Birthday to Me: Melissa Sue Anderson, Glenn Ford, Lawrence Dane, Sharon Acker, Frances Hyland (II), Tracey E. Bregman, Jack Blum, Matt Craven, Lenore Zann, David Eisner, Lisa Langlois, Michel-Ren� Labelle, Richard Rebiere, Lesleh Do (http://www.amazon.com/Happy-Birthday-Melissa-Sue-Anderson/dp/B0002VYOVS) Read the reviews here to see all the hate.

Ah, I see now. Thanks for sharing this, and thanks for the info!

lord71
02-10-2014, 10:26 AM
great, a very big THX!!!

c�d�master88
02-10-2014, 02:26 PM
For those who are curious I did a rip from the 5.1 track on the Bluray. The DVD features stereo sound and considering I did a DVD rip from the Anchor Bay DVD years ago as well, I don't expect this to sound very good. My Bluray rip is in full stereo unlike this mono release. Interestingly my first DVD rip of this score was mastered in mono as well since the center channel removal process I used resulted in mono sound and very cruddy audio. The sound quality of the Region 1 Mill Creek Bluray's DTS-HD MA 5.1 track is obviously a vast improvement and actually allows for more elements of the score to be more effectively extracted with outstanding clarity. The "Falling Weights" cue being the biggest example of a hard cue to rip that include the synth twirls towards the climax. Here's the link: Thread 126225

disgaeahavok
02-10-2014, 10:20 PM
For those who are curious I did a rip from the 5.1 track on the Bluray. The DVD features stereo sound and considering I did a DVD rip from the Anchor Bay DVD years ago as well, I don't expect this to sound very good. My Bluray rip is in full stereo unlike this mono release. Interestingly my first DVD rip of this score was mastered in mono as well since the center channel removal process I used resulted in mono sound and very cruddy audio. The sound quality of the Region 1 Mill Creek Bluray's DTS-HD MA 5.1 track is obviously a vast improvement and actually allows for more elements of the score to be more effectively extracted with outstanding clarity. The "Falling Weights" cue being the biggest example of a hard cue to rip that include the synth twirls towards the climax. Here's the link: Thread 126225

You know, this is very impolite and outright rude. Saying your rip is better when you obviously haven't even listened to it. Listen to it, it sounds great. You'll see that it sounds almost exactly like it does in the movie. And the soundtrack was originally recorded in mono, not stereo, so this is more faithful. And you didn't even bother naming your tracks as well. Ripping has changed in the past few years so don't expect mine to sound like yours did years ago. And the falling weights track sounds awesome. One of the highlights of my rip.

c�d�master88
02-10-2014, 10:33 PM
You know, this is very impolite and outright rude. Saying your rip is better when you obviously haven't even listened to it. Listen to it, it sounds great. You'll see that it sounds almost exactly like it does in the movie. And the soundtrack was originally recorded in mono, not stereo, so this is more faithful. And you didn't even bother naming your tracks as well. Ripping has changed in the past few years so don't expect mine to sound like yours did years ago. And the falling weights track sounds awesome. One of the highlights of my rip.


Your source is stereo DVD. Mine is 5.1 Bluray. We will leave the opinions to our listeners. Don't be so uptight.

moviemusicsi
02-10-2014, 10:48 PM
You know, this is very impolite and outright rude. Saying your rip is better when you obviously haven't even listened to it. Listen to it, it sounds great. You'll see that it sounds almost exactly like it does in the movie. And the soundtrack was originally recorded in mono, not stereo, so this is more faithful. And you didn't even bother naming your tracks as well. Ripping has changed in the past few years so don't expect mine to sound like yours did years ago. And the falling weights track sounds awesome. One of the highlights of my rip.


Codys rip is far superior .....

disgaeahavok
02-10-2014, 11:00 PM
Codys rip is far superior .....

This coming from a guy who's complained about my posts. Who cares about his fans, works hard on ripping music not commercially available, and uploads rare stuff? Me. Who complains about other people's hard work and hardly uploads a thing? I'll let you figure that out.

moviemusicsi
02-10-2014, 11:31 PM
This coming from a guy who's complained about my posts. Who cares about his fans, works hard on ripping music not commercially available, and uploads rare stuff? Me. Who complains about other people's hard work and hardly uploads a thing? I'll let you figure that out.

Its a free world matey , i have never complained i merely give feedback i appreciate that you rip what you feel your ' fans' want but would rather listen to Codys superior rips which dont include lots of sound effects etc and not just a rip off the DVD audio . if i want that i may as well watch the dvd etc .

disgaeahavok
02-11-2014, 02:18 AM
Its a free world matey , i have never complained i merely give feedback i appreciate that you rip what you feel your ' fans' want but would rather listen to Codys superior rips which dont include lots of sound effects etc and not just a rip off the DVD audio . if i want that i may as well watch the dvd etc .

Obviously, you have no idea what I do. You post about things you don't even bother listening to, like Codyap09. I don't simply take the audio from the dvd and separate it into tracks, what would be the point of that? I hate FX ridden music. When I rip something, I REMOVE THE VOCALS AND FX. What's left of them is extremely minimal. This particular rip really worked in terms of removal. I wish people would actually LISTEN to things before posting about them.

moviemusicsi
02-11-2014, 02:52 AM
why are you getting so uptight about this ????? take a chill pill man ... if you dont like feedback dont post anything

disgaeahavok
02-11-2014, 03:15 AM
why are you getting so uptight about this ????? take a chill pill man ... if you dont like feedback dont post anything

I'm not. It just irritates me that people post negative things without bothering to even listen to the thing. Seriously. This is exactly why I stopped posting on the Monster Club.

laohu
02-11-2014, 03:48 AM
thanks dh

c�d�master88
02-11-2014, 04:20 AM
So I gave this the benefit of the doubt and as I expected, it's actually worse than I predicted. Your rip may be free of a lot of SFX but the point is this: yours is mono, mine is stereo. If you like mono then hey, that's your thing but you're really missing out on the vastly improved soundfield as a result of the stereo upmix that can only be properly ripped from the Bluray. I find it hilarious that you're getting uptight and trying to argue that a stereo track with no surround channels programmed can beat my 5.1 Bluray rip. I highly doubt that you even gave my version a listen. Not that it's a competition nor am I going to make it one but I'm just stating an obvious fact.

I'm not sure why there are 2 versions of Happy Birthday to Me (tracks 1 and 2) when they are both the exact same cue with one being more complete than the other. The second version features an awkward fade-in at the beginning and an even more awkward fade-out at the end.

Also, several tracks don't feature proper fade ins/outs (tracks 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 and the list goes on).

My biggest gripe is upon inspection in Sound Forge, the peaks are very very hot. When listening to it, you can hear the crackling distortion when the music gets louder and more intense (Bench Press Drill being the cue I was referring to earlier, not Falling Weights). It doesn't start there nor does it end there.

Now, I am not a cocky person at all (in fact I'm more modest than I have any right to be) but I know when I'm right and I'm for sure right when I say that my version is FAR superior. Just like you, I began with the Anchor Bay DVD but being a newbie to that, I still think I produced much better results but hey, I'm not gonna argue. No point in it.

I really do appreciate the effort, don't really appreciate the uptightness in your responses (hey, I'm only trying to help. Don't want it? Then keep on making these terrible rips and getting naggy when others point out the exact same flaws) but you do what you do.

Anyway, say what you want from this point forward. Just don't argue or get snippy with me.

Thanks again for the effort. Sorry I pre-judged it only to be right anyway. Hey, at least I'm nice enough to give you the benefit of the doubt even AFTER I've slammed you for this even BEFORE I heard it. My dream career is to open my own record label so proper editing and mastering is of the upmost importance to me. That and my fans are quite important to me so I always try to make sure my releases carry a specific level of quality. Sure, I don't hit the mark every time (*cough* Skeleton Key & King Kong [thank you SonicAdventure for referencing my version and fixing my mastering fuck-ups]*cough*) but if something about a project bothers me I at least attempt to go back and fix it in the future.

Anyway, just some food for thought.

WildwoodPark
02-11-2014, 04:49 AM
Thanks to you both for your efforts, I couldn't even begin to try to do what you both (Codyap09) (disgaeahavok ) have accomplished here.

One question though and it's been bugging me..explain your nicknames you two!! :-D

c�d�master88
02-11-2014, 04:56 AM
Thanks to you both for your efforts, I couldn't even begin to try to do what you both (Codyap09) (disgaeahavok ) have accomplished here.

One question though and it's been bugging me..explain your nicknames you two!! :-D

Codyap09: Cody Alan Perkins (my full name); '09 was the year I joined.

moviemusicsi
02-11-2014, 04:57 AM
eloquently put Cody ...

disgaeahavok
02-11-2014, 05:07 AM
So I gave this the benefit of the doubt and as I expected, it's actually worse than I predicted. Your rip may be free of a lot of SFX but the point is this: yours is mono, mine is stereo. If you like mono then hey, that's your thing but you're really missing out on the vastly improved soundfield as a result of the stereo upmix that can only be properly ripped from the Bluray. I find it hilarious that you're getting uptight and trying to argue that a stereo track with no surround channels programmed can beat my 5.1 Bluray rip. I highly doubt that you even gave my version a listen. Not that it's a competition nor am I going to make it one but I'm just stating an obvious fact.

I'm not sure why there are 2 versions of Happy Birthday to Me (tracks 1 and 2) when they are both the exact same cue with one being more complete than the other. The second version features an awkward fade-in at the beginning and an even more awkward fade-out at the end.

Also, several tracks don't feature proper fade ins/outs (tracks 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 and the list goes on).

My biggest gripe is upon inspection in Sound Forge, the peaks are very very hot. When listening to it, you can hear the crackling distortion when the music gets louder and more intense (Bench Press Drill being the cue I was referring to earlier, not Falling Weights). It doesn't start there nor does it end there.

Now, I am not a cocky person at all (in fact I'm more modest than I have any right to be) but I know when I'm right and I'm for sure right when I say that my version is FAR superior. Just like you, I began with the Anchor Bay DVD but being a newbie to that, I still think I produced much better results but hey, I'm not gonna argue. No point in it.

I really do appreciate the effort, don't really appreciate the uptightness in your responses (hey, I'm only trying to help. Don't want it? Then keep on making these terrible rips and getting naggy when others point out the exact same flaws) but you do what you do.

Anyway, say what you want from this point forward. Just don't argue or get snippy with me.

Thanks again for the effort. Sorry I pre-judged it only to be right anyway. Hey, at least I'm nice enough to give you the benefit of the doubt even AFTER I've slammed you for this even BEFORE I heard it. My dream career is to open my own record label so proper editing and mastering is of the upmost importance to me. That and my fans are quite important to me so I always try to make sure my releases carry a specific level of quality. Sure, I don't hit the mark every time (*cough* Skeleton Key & King Kong [thank you SonicAdventure for referencing my version and fixing my mastering fuck-ups]*cough*) but if something about a project bothers me I at least attempt to go back and fix it in the future.

Anyway, just some food for thought.

And you're STILL rude. It wouldn't bother me so much if you were nicer about it. But okay, if you think this rip sounds so bad,so be it. I guess the movie sounds just as bad since it sounds exactly like it does in the movie. You're right, I shouldn't be so uptight about the opinion of someone as rude as you. I think this sounds amazing and I've gotten lots of compliments about my other "terrible" rips. The only people I've heard complain is you and moviemusicsi. And besides, I can't remove FX without making it mono. But it doesn't really matter with this rip as IT WAS RECORDED IN MONO. So it sounds exactly like it was supposed to.

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Thanks to you both for your efforts, I couldn't even begin to try to do what you both (Codyap09) (disgaeahavok ) have accomplished here.

One question though and it's been bugging me..explain your nicknames you two!! :-D

Disgaea comes from one of my favorite games, Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness and Havok is the last name of the lead singer of AFI, Davey Havok.

WildwoodPark
02-11-2014, 05:13 AM
Nice guys!! now play nice all of us have a common interest but we still have the freedom to disagree and that's the beauty of a site like this.

Personally I don't agree with 75% of my family on certain topics but at the end of the day there is a shared respect.

Thanks to you two and everyone else on this site that makes it what it is today.

c�d�master88
02-11-2014, 05:20 AM
And you're STILL rude. It wouldn't bother me so much if you were nicer about it. But okay, if you think this rip sounds so bad,so be it. I guess the movie sounds just as bad since it sounds exactly like it does in the movie. You're right, I shouldn't be so uptight about the opinion of someone as rude as you. I think this sounds amazing and I've gotten lots of compliments about my other "terrible" rips. The only people I've heard complain is you and moviemusicsi. And besides, I can't remove FX without making it mono. But it doesn't really matter with this rip as IT WAS RECORDED IN MONO. So it sounds exactly like it was supposed to.[COLOR="Silver"]

Some people just can't see past the rudeness of constructive criticism. tsk tsk tsk. Moving on.

disgaeahavok
02-11-2014, 05:22 AM
Some people just can't see past the rudeness of constructive criticism. tsk tsk tsk. Moving on.

Just please stop posting on my thread. I'm all for constructive criticism but there is absolutely no need to be rude about it.

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Nice guys!! now play nice all of us have a common interest but we still have the freedom to disagree and that's the beauty of a site like this.

Personally I don't agree with 75% of my family on certain topics but at the end of the day there is a shared respect.

Thanks to you two and everyone else on this site that makes it what it is today.

Thanks! You're a good egg!

moviemusicsi
02-11-2014, 05:27 AM
Codys comment was really well put hes not been rude at all , he again was giving you feedback , what is your interpretation of rude ? obviously you cannot take feedback or any ' olive branch ' which is put before you ... you are been very childish and need to grow up , yopu seem to be very protective over your rips ... ive only ever dowloaded one rip of yours and wont be downloadin anymore . Codys rips are amazing and he deseves more respect than you are giving .... i have a feeling you are merely jealous.

disgaeahavok
02-11-2014, 05:31 AM
Codys comment was really well put hes not been rude at all , he again was giving you feedback , what is your interpretation of rude ? obviously you cannot take feedback or any ' olive branch ' which is put before you ... you are been very childish and need to grow up , yopu seem to be very protective over your rips ... ive only ever dowloaded one rip of yours and wont be downloadin anymore . Codys rips are amazing and he deseves more respect than you are giving .... i have a feeling you are merely jealous.

Um, saying my rips are terrible and advertising his own rip, promoting it as better isn't rude? Constructive criticism can be polite. Like I said, it wouldn't bother me if he weren't so outright rude. Please stop posting about my stuff. You have been the #1 annoyance to me. Anything you've ever said to me on the Monsters Club was negative. So stop. You're the one who comes across as childish, not me. And please, use spell check.

moviemusicsi
02-11-2014, 05:34 AM
Im not going to say anymore on the matter. Id rather have a rational conversation . End of.

c�d�master88
02-11-2014, 06:26 AM
Now I know I came off as condescending to your rip before I even heard it but I know your reputation and the mere thought of what you did to HBTM after the hard work I put into isolating music from the DVD and making it an enjoyable listen then turning around and hearing this one it was a very emotional experience for me. I'm now merely trying to tell you that you need a lot more work and I'm happy to teach you but I understand if your pride in your work stands in the way. I understand pride well enough. It can be quite dissuading. If you want people to give you less shit than they do, get some help or get out of the game. I like sharing music as much as the next guy/girl but why allow a mix such as this to be unleashed to the public? This is like that disaster where the master tapes for my last film got lost and now the only copy available is the very first edit I made in low resolution with missing sound effects and sound anamolies that almost make me cry that my final edit may never be seen again.

What do I know though? I'm just a rude asshole. *insert desired fictional deity here* forbid I give somebody the benefit of the doubt after the fact. At least I'm owning up to my mistakes. Not repeating them over and over and over and over and over expecting better results.

I'm done now though. Thank you again for the share. Sorry you just can't please everyone. Someone else here is likely to enjoy it though.

disgaeahavok
02-11-2014, 06:58 AM
Now I know I came off as condescending to your rip before I even heard it but I know your reputation and the mere thought of what you did to HBTM after the hard work I put into isolating music from the DVD and making it an enjoyable listen then turning around and hearing this one it was a very emotional experience for me. I'm now merely trying to tell you that you need a lot more work and I'm happy to teach you but I understand if your pride in your work stands in the way. I understand pride well enough. It can be quite dissuading. If you want people to give you less shit than they do, get some help or get out of the game. I like sharing music as much as the next guy/girl but why allow a mix such as this to be unleashed to the public? This is like that disaster where the master tapes for my last film got lost and now the only copy available is the very first edit I made in low resolution with missing sound effects and sound anamolies that almost make me cry that my final edit may never be seen again.

What do I know though? I'm just a rude asshole. *insert desired fictional deity here* forbid I give somebody the benefit of the doubt after the fact. At least I'm owning up to my mistakes. Not repeating them over and over and over and over and over expecting better results.

I'm done now though. Thank you again for the share. Sorry you just can't please everyone. Someone else here is likely to enjoy it though.

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Now I know I came off as condescending to your rip before I even heard it but I know your reputation and the mere thought of what you did to HBTM after the hard work I put into isolating music from the DVD and making it an enjoyable listen then turning around and hearing this one it was a very emotional experience for me. I'm now merely trying to tell you that you need a lot more work and I'm happy to teach you but I understand if your pride in your work stands in the way. I understand pride well enough. It can be quite dissuading. If you want people to give you less shit than they do, get some help or get out of the game. I like sharing music as much as the next guy/girl but why allow a mix such as this to be unleashed to the public? This is like that disaster where the master tapes for my last film got lost and now the only copy available is the very first edit I made in low resolution with missing sound effects and sound anamolies that almost make me cry that my final edit may never be seen again.

What do I know though? I'm just a rude asshole. *insert desired fictional deity here* forbid I give somebody the benefit of the doubt after the fact. At least I'm owning up to my mistakes. Not repeating them over and over and over and over and over expecting better results.

I'm done now though. Thank you again for the share. Sorry you just can't please everyone. Someone else here is likely to enjoy it though.

I think my reputation is quite nice, thanks. Most people enjoy these.

moviemusicsi
02-11-2014, 01:38 PM
Now I know I came off as condescending to your rip before I even heard it but I know your reputation and the mere thought of what you did to HBTM after the hard work I put into isolating music from the DVD and making it an enjoyable listen then turning around and hearing this one it was a very emotional experience for me. I'm now merely trying to tell you that you need a lot more work and I'm happy to teach you but I understand if your pride in your work stands in the way. I understand pride well enough. It can be quite dissuading. If you want people to give you less shit than they do, get some help or get out of the game. I like sharing music as much as the next guy/girl but why allow a mix such as this to be unleashed to the public? This is like that disaster where the master tapes for my last film got lost and now the only copy available is the very first edit I made in low resolution with missing sound effects and sound anamolies that almost make me cry that my final edit may never be seen again.

What do I know though? I'm just a rude asshole. *insert desired fictional deity here* forbid I give somebody the benefit of the doubt after the fact. At least I'm owning up to my mistakes. Not repeating them over and over and over and over and over expecting better results.

I'm done now though. Thank you again for the share. Sorry you just can't please everyone. Someone else here is likely to enjoy it though.

Again CODY a very rational explanation ... no rudeness at all ... i think this poster is snakesinpanataloons has he been rumbled ?

disgaeahavok
02-11-2014, 05:31 PM
Again CODY a very rational explanation ... no rudeness at all ... i think this poster is snakesinpanataloons has he been rumbled ?

I told you to stop posting on here. All I wanted to do was share a score unavailable to the public and then Codyp came and started putting my rip down and promoting his as better. STOP.

moviemusicsi
02-11-2014, 05:49 PM
Its a free forum .. and your actions have been childish . I suggest you reflect on how you have come accross to people , and how you have probably stopped cody posting his excellent rips .

disgaeahavok
02-11-2014, 06:53 PM
Its a free forum .. and your actions have been childish . I suggest you reflect on how you have come accross to people , and how you have probably stopped cody posting his excellent rips .

I suggest you take your own advice. You have done nothing but be negative about my posts since the beginning. I post rare and unavailable things and try to help out those who need it. You just take, take, take. I suggest you stop posting things on my stuff because I've reported you.

As for Codyap, I highly doubt I've stopped him. Contrary to what he says, he comes across as highly arrogant and full of himself. He obviously thinks himself superior.

moviemusicsi
02-11-2014, 06:58 PM
ive never downloaded any of youre stuff ... what have you reported me for ? defending cody ?

disgaeahavok
02-11-2014, 07:06 PM
ive never downloaded any of youre stuff ... what have you reported me for ? defending cody ?

For complaining about my stuff consistently on the Monster Club and just adding more fuel to the fire here.

c�d�master88
02-11-2014, 08:05 PM
As for Codyap, I highly doubt I've stopped him. Contrary to what he says, he comes across as highly arrogant and full of himself. He obviously thinks himself superior.

I may come across as those things but you can thank the folks here who enjoy my work for that. It hasn't exactly hurt my confidence but I at least try to be critical and to-the-point where I feel it is strongly needed. I may have been very rude and whatever in my very first post by bashing it before I even listened to it but don't blame me from doing research on you before taking the risk of being disappointed. Sorry I just like to know what I'm in for. If that makes me arrogant then I guess we are all arrogant bastards/bitches. Nobody likes to waste time and what's worse is nobody likes to admit that they're wasting their time. Hence why we have very few like me who actually take the time to write a detailed message about almost everything wrong about a release that hinders our personal enjoyments. Our OPINIONS are entirely SUBJECTIVE to others. You can either AGREE or DISAGREE with our OPINIONS but no matter which stance you take, it's ultimately YOUR OWN personal listening preference that matters. Like I said, I may not personally like your rips but obviously others do. If you didn't over-amplify the sound then you know, it wouldn't be so bad. Happy Birthday to Me was mixed WAY too loud. The dynamics are practically destroyed. That's not me being arrogant or laying down an opinion, that's me just telling you the way it is. Sorry you don't agree and think so negatively of me.

We like SFX-free music just as much as you disgaeahavok but SnakesinPantaloons-in-disguise, you still haven't followed any of the advice that other users have been bitching to you about pretty much since you started posting rips. As much as I wanted to speak out on many occasions, I didn't. I had more respect than to cause a scene. I just kept my mouth shut and knew what to expect next time. You did however give me the Freddy vs. Jason complete score which I actually do respect you for. More than you will ever give this arrogant ol' bastard credit for. It made me realize that not everything you have is a waste of our time (in fact a quick pull-up of your history reveals some very good uploads), just a lot the stuff you personally work on. To be fair, your intentions are very noble and I respect that but you keep making the same mistakes in your rips. Once again, if that's me coming off as arrogant then all who agree with me are just as arrogant. Also, I understand you are working with stereo sources. From experience, I know how tricky that can be so I give you kudos for the effort. Some of your cartoon rips otherwise may never be released in any form and whether I like them or not, it means a lot to people here so don't think I'm knocking you on every level. I do respect what you do...even HBTM no matter how good or bad of a rip it was.

As for being full of myself, I have every right to be. When you're kinda forced to live your life alone through most of it with no real meaningful and long-lasting relationships whether it be with a boyfriend/girlfriend or merely just a friend, you have a lot of time to think about what you want. Arrogance when you are repeatedly told that you are talented is a nasty byproduct but I don't try to waste any of mine or anyone else's time by trying to say that I'm God's gift to the world because I know I'm not. I'm my mom's gift to the world. Nobody ever showed me the proper respect growing up so I'm sorry if I can be a little disrespectful. I really don't know any better. I'm not Mozart, I'm not the God of music, I'm me and I happen to know what I like. I also take time to pay attention to what others' like so that I can surprise them later. I just like making people happy is what it all boils down to and I feel I've earned everything both positive and negative that can be said about me.

disgaeahavok
02-11-2014, 08:24 PM
I may come across as those things but you can thank the folks here who enjoy my work for that. It hasn't exactly hurt my confidence but I at least try to be critical and to-the-point where I feel it is strongly needed. I may have been very rude and whatever in my very first post by bashing it before I even listened to it but don't blame me from doing research on you before taking the risk of being disappointed. Sorry I just like to know what I'm in for. If that makes me arrogant then I guess we are all arrogant bastards/bitches. Nobody likes to waste time and what's worse is nobody likes to admit that they're wasting their time. Hence why we have very few like me who actually take the time to write a detailed message about almost everything wrong about a release that hinders our personal enjoyments. Our OPINIONS are entirely SUBJECTIVE to others. You can either AGREE or DISAGREE with our OPINIONS but no matter which stance you take, it's ultimately YOUR OWN personal listening preference that matters. Like I said, I may not personally like your rips but obviously others do. If you didn't over-amplify the sound then you know, it wouldn't be so bad. Happy Birthday to Me was mixed WAY too loud. The dynamics are practically destroyed. That's not me being arrogant or laying down an opinion, that's me just telling you the way it is. Sorry you don't agree and think so negatively of me.

We like SFX-free music just as much as you disgaeahavok but SnakesinPantaloons-in-disguise, you still haven't followed any of the advice that other users have been bitching to you about pretty much since you started posting rips. As much as I wanted to speak out on many occasions, I didn't. I had more respect than to cause a scene. I just kept my mouth shut and knew what to expect next time. You did however give me the Freddy vs. Jason complete score which I actually do respect you for. More than you will ever give this arrogant ol' bastard credit for. It made me realize that not everything you have is a waste of our time (in fact a quick pull-up of your history reveals some very good uploads), just a lot the stuff you personally work on. To be fair, your intentions are very noble and I respect that but you keep making the same mistakes in your rips. Once again, if that's me coming off as arrogant then all who agree with me are just as arrogant. Also, I understand you are working with stereo sources. From experience, I know how tricky that can be so I give you kudos for the effort. Some of your cartoon rips otherwise may never be released in any form and whether I like them or not, it means a lot to people here so don't think I'm knocking you on every level. I do respect what you do...even HBTM no matter how good or bad of a rip it was.

As for being full of myself, I have every right to be. When you're kinda forced to live your life alone through most of it with no real meaningful and long-lasting relationships whether it be with a boyfriend/girlfriend or merely just a friend, you have a lot of time to think about what you want. Arrogance when you are repeatedly told that you are talented is a nasty byproduct but I don't try to waste any of mine or anyone else's time by trying to say that I'm God's gift to the world because I know I'm not. I'm my mom's gift to the world. Nobody ever showed me the proper respect growing up so I'm sorry if I can be a little disrespectful. I really don't know any better. I'm not Mozart, I'm not the God of music, I'm me and I happen to know what I like. I also take time to pay attention to what others' like so that I can surprise them later. I just like making people happy is what it all boils down to and I feel I've earned everything both positive and negative that can be said about me.

Who the hell is this Snakeinpantaloons guy? And finally, a post I can actually respect. But if you think this is so bad, why don't you actually TELL me how to correct it rather than just saying it's bad? People tell me negative things but don't give any tips for me to actually use. I wear hearing aids so I may not be as acute in sound as normal people but I think it sounds good. But I'm so tired of this feuding. I get the feeling you ARE a nice guy but we just really got off leash. So if you can tell me how I can improve my rips, I'm completely open to it. I use Windows 7 and Audacity. I would like to know how to maintain the stereo rather than mono with soundtracks that are meant to be in stereo. There are more tracks than I'd like to admit that don't have the same impact and don't sound as good in mono. I have A LOT more rips in line and I'd be fully willing to utilize anything to improve.

moviemusicsi
02-11-2014, 08:29 PM
Cody ...well said mate

c�d�master88
02-11-2014, 09:16 PM
Who the hell is this Snakeinpantaloons guy? And finally, a post I can actually respect. But if you think this is so bad, why don't you actually TELL me how to correct it rather than just saying it's bad? People tell me negative things but don't give any tips for me to actually use. I wear hearing aids so I may not be as acute in sound as normal people but I think it sounds good. But I'm so tired of this feuding. I get the feeling you ARE a nice guy but we just really got off leash. So if you can tell me how I can improve my rips, I'm completely open to it. I use Windows 7 and Audacity. I would like to know how to maintain the stereo rather than mono with soundtracks that are meant to be in stereo. There are more tracks than I'd like to admit that don't have the same impact and don't sound as good in mono. I have A LOT more rips in line and I'd be fully willing to utilize anything to improve.

For one, don't use Audacity. Sure it's free and easy but so is a slut right down the road to paint a similar image. In this wide sub-world of audio engineering there are many audio editing programs that are used by the professionals for similar projects. I personally don't work with stereo. It is such a headache but for my edit of Happy Birthday to Me from 2011 where I used the same stereo source, I merely tweaked the settings in Adobe Audition's center channel extractor software to a customized "a capella" setting. Since I no longer do those projects, I cannot be of much help there. In fact, I started editing HBTM from Audition but after horrible results, I imported it into Goldwave which I realize now is equivalent to Audacity in that it produces the same mono output sound as Audacity when running the center channel extractor function. My opinion is steer clear of free software. Much better professional quality rips can be made from a more advanced audio editor such as Adobe Audition or Sound Forge. Those aren't free but we are in the year 2014. A quick search on ThePirateBay or various other file-sharing sites will direct you to the bootlegged programs. Sure, it's dishonest but alot of what we do here is dishonest even if our intentions are noble. We wanna share music but sometimes the stuff we share robs labels and composers who work so hard on these projects and spend so much money to get them out to the fans only for the mouth to bite the hand by putting it online for free.

Back to the point: I'm a firm believer in try before you buy hence why I feel okay with downloading pirated software. I want to make sure that I'm gonna enjoy the software before I shell out hundreds (sometimes thousands) of dollars to buy it. Same with music.

I suggest starting out with Sound Forge. Adobe Audition has some nice features but is far too complex to a newbie. Hell, I'm not a newbie and I don't even like using it. Sound Forge is more user friendly and offers some nice features such as another center channel extractor which unfortunately STILL renders into mono. Audition has the only center channel extractor that outputs a stereo source into a stereo output but you really have to be familiar with what you're doing before you proceed. I've experimented with hundreds of different ways but I still find the final output to be too flawed for me to publicly post anything I make with it. There are better people to speak with about that who can guide you in the right direction to working those kinks out.

As far as over-amplifying your music, I'd like you to get more familiar with observing a wave form and its peaks in Sound Forge then pull up any cue from your HBTM and any other dynamically intense score cue and just compare. You will rarely find an album with peaks as hot as yours were for HBTM. It's not entirely uncommon but professionals consider that a sonic no-no. Remember that if your peaks exceed the threshold on both the left and right channels then the peak meters on the right will turn red. The object is to never let them get above orange. Normalizing is a tool I used to use to level my sounds out but after users reported that as another no-no for maximum dynamic quality, I ended up resorting to experimenting with simply adjusting the volume and keeping normalization to an absolute minimum. Also, you don't want all of your cues to be all mastered at the exact same high volume. They need to be consistent while still retaining a proper dynamic range where the louds are loud and the soft stuff is soft but not terribly low in volume. Something that when the cues are played back to back, no cue stands out as too low or too loud. The only way to do that is to play and re-play the album many times in succession to pick up flaws in sound volume consistency. Now, that philosophy does NOT apply to all scores, James Horner's works being an example. There's no way to make those quiet scenes louder without introducing some volume inconsistencies in the process since (also like Zimmer) there could be those issues all within the same cue. It could be a quiet cue with a stretch of loud material before the music sinks into near silence again. That's another reason why I don't fancy doing another Horner or Zimmer project. Unless it's Titanic or Sherlock Holmes 2. I'd make those work.


When I get some more time, I'll try to get you some help and have someone show you that knows more than I do.

disgaeahavok
02-12-2014, 12:15 AM
For one, don't use Audacity. Sure it's free and easy but so is a slut right down the road to paint a similar image. In this wide sub-world of audio engineering there are many audio editing programs that are used by the professionals for similar projects. I personally don't work with stereo. It is such a headache but for my edit of Happy Birthday to Me from 2011 where I used the same stereo source, I merely tweaked the settings in Adobe Audition's center channel extractor software to a customized "a capella" setting. Since I no longer do those projects, I cannot be of much help there. In fact, I started editing HBTM from Audition but after horrible results, I imported it into Goldwave which I realize now is equivalent to Audacity in that it produces the same mono output sound as Audacity when running the center channel extractor function. My opinion is steer clear of free software. Much better professional quality rips can be made from a more advanced audio editor such as Adobe Audition or Sound Forge. Those aren't free but we are in the year 2014. A quick search on ThePirateBay or various other file-sharing sites will direct you to the bootlegged programs. Sure, it's dishonest but alot of what we do here is dishonest even if our intentions are noble. We wanna share music but sometimes the stuff we share robs labels and composers who work so hard on these projects and spend so much money to get them out to the fans only for the mouth to bite the hand by putting it online for free.

Back to the point: I'm a firm believer in try before you buy hence why I feel okay with downloading pirated software. I want to make sure that I'm gonna enjoy the software before I shell out hundreds (sometimes thousands) of dollars to buy it. Same with music.

I suggest starting out with Sound Forge. Adobe Audition has some nice features but is far too complex to a newbie. Hell, I'm not a newbie and I don't even like using it. Sound Forge is more user friendly and offers some nice features such as another center channel extractor which unfortunately STILL renders into mono. Audition has the only center channel extractor that outputs a stereo source into a stereo output but you really have to be familiar with what you're doing before you proceed. I've experimented with hundreds of different ways but I still find the final output to be too flawed for me to publicly post anything I make with it. There are better people to speak with about that who can guide you in the right direction to working those kinks out.

As far as over-amplifying your music, I'd like you to get more familiar with observing a wave form and its peaks in Sound Forge then pull up any cue from your HBTM and any other dynamically intense score cue and just compare. You will rarely find an album with peaks as hot as yours were for HBTM. It's not entirely uncommon but professionals consider that a sonic no-no. Remember that if your peaks exceed the threshold on both the left and right channels then the peak meters on the right will turn red. The object is to never let them get above orange. Normalizing is a tool I used to use to level my sounds out but after users reported that as another no-no for maximum dynamic quality, I ended up resorting to experimenting with simply adjusting the volume and keeping normalization to an absolute minimum. Also, you don't want all of your cues to be all mastered at the exact same high volume. They need to be consistent while still retaining a proper dynamic range where the louds are loud and the soft stuff is soft but not terribly low in volume. Something that when the cues are played back to back, no cue stands out as too low or too loud. The only way to do that is to play and re-play the album many times in succession to pick up flaws in sound volume consistency. Now, that philosophy does NOT apply to all scores, James Horner's works being an example. There's no way to make those quiet scenes louder without introducing some volume inconsistencies in the process since (also like Zimmer) there could be those issues all within the same cue. It could be a quiet cue with a stretch of loud material before the music sinks into near silence again. That's another reason why I don't fancy doing another Horner or Zimmer project. Unless it's Titanic or Sherlock Holmes 2. I'd make those work.


When I get some more time, I'll try to get you some help and have someone show you that knows more than I do.

CRAP. This is exactly why I use Audacity. Much simpler, ha. I'm gonna download Audition and try it. If nothing else, I can at least make my rips stereo.

c�d�master88
02-12-2014, 12:51 AM
And that's totally fine. Do what works for you. I have however laid out some advice. I'm sorry if it wasn't as detailed as you'd expected but I experiment for my projects so my techniques are rarely the same. No two projects are ever the same. It's so second-nature to me that I don't think I could teach anyone. I'm too impatient haha. But stranger things have happened. That's why we have the bonafide (tehe) audiophiles that are more than happy to break it down for you better.

disgaeahavok
02-12-2014, 01:46 AM
And that's totally fine. Do what works for you. I have however laid out some advice. I'm sorry if it wasn't as detailed as you'd expected but I experiment for my projects so my techniques are rarely the same. No two projects are ever the same. It's so second-nature to me that I don't think I could teach anyone. I'm too impatient haha. But stranger things have happened. That's why we have the bonafide (tehe) audiophiles that are more than happy to break it down for you better.

It's fine. It's something! And I see what you mean by the peaks being so "hot" It goes off the charts in both directions. It still sounds good but I see where I could've made it sound better.

---------- Post added at 06:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:03 PM ----------

Ok. Just tried Audition on my next rip and it really makes a difference. Not as muted and in stereo. My future rips should be much better now.

turner6
04-12-2014, 07:07 PM
I suggest you take your own advice. You have done nothing but be negative about my posts since the beginning. I post rare and unavailable things and try to help out those who need it. You just take, take, take. I suggest you stop posting things on my stuff because I've reported you.

As for Codyap, I highly doubt I've stopped him. Contrary to what he says, he comes across as highly arrogant and full of himself. He obviously thinks himself superior.

I absolutely agree with you, this user moviemusici is just a profiteer, he only downloads and posts only the same reply: thanks, thanks, thanks. What a shame !
That's because of people like this one that I stopped sharing my CD's and became also a profiteer like him.

TheKill123
08-31-2014, 10:01 AM
I have both versions

Astuarco
02-15-2015, 12:05 AM
I found the ending of this film pretty silly (it's unexpected because it's so preposterous) but it kept Glenn Ford busy and I remember the score as a good one. Thanks and don't quarrel so much.

shortywallach
02-19-2015, 05:43 PM
Thanks!!

acdcinfw
02-27-2016, 08:11 PM
I'd really like to hear your version Cody but it appears that your link no longer works. Could you please re-post? Thanks.

topgun
02-27-2016, 09:58 PM
Thank you so much for this unreleased score! Much appreciated! :)