Lockdown
11-27-2013, 06:19 AM
Does anyone happen to know if on Ebay there was ever FYCs listed for Harry Potter 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, & 8? If so, does anyone have the original covers so I can see them possibly? Like scans I guess. Or links to the old Ebay listings. Thanks :)

bollemanneke
11-27-2013, 09:15 AM
Why do you want the FYCs? As far as I know, they contained the exact same music as the osts.

Zeratul13
11-27-2013, 03:58 PM
i have seen only hp 1 and 3

Lockdown
11-27-2013, 04:04 PM
I want to collect them. I have promos for all four movies. But 1 & 3 are FYC s the other seem to be just promos or album advances.

mgm5215
11-27-2013, 07:42 PM
Why do you want the FYCs? As far as I know, they contained the exact same music as the osts.

The FYC promo of HP8 has a missing cue (Voldy's Influence).

Lockdown
11-27-2013, 07:54 PM
It seems a lot of the tracks have different names for Part 2. I think it's more than just that one track according to what I remember from that post last year.

mgm5215
11-27-2013, 08:51 PM
I do remember that the FYC promo uploaded in the WB FYC site had the cues without Hedwig's Theme.

bollemanneke
11-27-2013, 09:01 PM
Didn't someone say that they had the HP8 FYC or that they had proof to suggest that the cue names were different, but that the music was essentially the same? Or did I misunderstand that? Didn't Amanda post somewhere that she'd seen the thing in the WB shop or sth?

DAKoftheOTA
11-27-2013, 09:17 PM
Why do you want the FYCs? As far as I know, they contained the exact same music as the osts.

Because like me, some people like to collect them. And if they're any different than their OST counterparts (apparently DH pt. II is, why else would it have different names for identical tracks as the OST?), they're worth having. Plain and simple

But until someone actually gets a hold of the DH pt. II FYC and uploads it, no one will know for sure. Some say that the cues on WB's FYC site were the same. But last year on Universal's FYC site, there were only 6 tracks for Snow White - and now look at how massive the FYC is. It's damn near complete. I know WB is not Universal, but it's not always that what's on a studio's FYC site is what's actually pressed on disc. Trust me, I'm an expert at this

chris_thornton
11-27-2013, 10:31 PM
keep checking ebay :)

DjawadiFan
11-27-2013, 10:49 PM
only have the recording sessions to films 1,2,4,7pt1 & 7pt2!

Bueller, bueller? And you won't find any glory here...

chris_thornton
11-27-2013, 11:21 PM
what?

Plutopurto
11-28-2013, 06:51 AM
I'm still reeling about the HP3 sessions. WTF Happened?

Some FYC's contain almost identical tracks - names and everything, though the mixing is sometimes different, microedits here and there and alternate takes used instead.
I can't remember the best example, but I know they're different from the OST's sometimes.

bollemanneke
11-28-2013, 10:25 AM
Hmm, now you've got me interested in that HP3 promo. About the sessions, i'ts very simple what happened: Electra started a fake thread hoping that something would happen, that someone would share. The only problem is that not a single person had it as far as I know. I have reason to believe that the HP3 sessions are even no longer in the Warner Bros archives.

Lockdown
11-28-2013, 09:48 PM
When I put my FYC disc of Harry Potter 3 in my computer, dbpoweramp detects it with the tracks and cover of the Original Soundtrack. It even has the exclusive wallpapers.

Plutopurto
11-29-2013, 01:46 AM
Hmm, now you've got me interested in that HP3 promo. About the sessions, i'ts very simple what happened: Electra started a fake thread hoping that something would happen, that someone would share. The only problem is that not a single person had it as far as I know. I have reason to believe that the HP3 sessions are even no longer in the Warner Bros archives.

What reason do you have, bollemanneke?

thejok3rrules
11-29-2013, 02:30 AM
Yeah, you had my curiosity, now you've got my attention, bollemanneke ;)

bollemanneke
11-29-2013, 09:19 AM
Suffice it to say that even Warner Bros people don't seem to be able to reach Azkaban. An interesting theory put forward by a friend of mine is that John Williams took them away from there after he didn't wanna do HP4 because of some disagreement with the producers. There is definitely more about those HP3 sessions than meets the eye.

Plutopurto
11-29-2013, 10:51 AM
I can't believe that Williams would take them. I think they're stored away nice and safe for some tenth anniversary edition when they can squeeze more money out of us.

bollemanneke
11-29-2013, 11:25 AM
If that's true, they're hidden really really well. Let's hope that anniversary edition will not mean four extra cues no sensible person would want...

Plutopurto
11-29-2013, 02:11 PM
Haha, I see what you did there...

Although the four cues that were released from that score were some of my favourite bits of music from the film.

bollemanneke
11-29-2013, 02:23 PM
I agree, but I just don't se the point of this sick butchering tendency. why, WHY is it so difficult to just release the whole damn thing for an anniversary edition? Mark my words, if WB ever releases Potter special editions they'll contain not even half of the things we want.

DjawadiFan
11-29-2013, 02:28 PM
Yes, the La-La-Land 80 minutes limited editions.... oh crap :(

Lockdown
12-01-2013, 08:28 PM
WHY is it so difficult to just release the whole damn thing for an anniversary edition?
Bollemanneke hear me out man, I'm not trying to be rude, but just understand what I am going to tell you. There's just a lot of factors to it. Sometimes it's the cost of doing a score album. If the score was recorded with a union orchestra the union contracts only allow for 30 minutes of score to be released initially. Anything longer than 30 minutes to record label has to be for each additional minute which is pretty costly. Because of that they tend to keep those score albums a bit shorter than usual.

Other times it's the composer who chooses what's to be released. Very rarely does a soundtrack contain the complete score (this is not counting limited editions, deluxe editions, etc. that could be released later on as a complete release). With Marco Beltrami (which has nothing to do with Harry Potter, but this is just an example that still can relate to other Film composers.) he tends to only release what he feels is a better listening experience. Not all cues need to be on a soundtrack. Some may be to short or not much going on in the cue to warrant it being on the release.

bollemanneke
12-01-2013, 08:33 PM
Yeah, I see what you mean. But hang on, are you saying that composers have a finger in the pie? As I understood it, what happens is that they sign ane vil contract that gives the company to do whatever it pleases without them having any say in anything at all... What composer doesn't want all of his music available to the public?

Faleel
12-01-2013, 08:54 PM
What composer doesn't want all of his music available to the public?

John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner....

Lockdown
12-01-2013, 09:00 PM
I think it's fair that composer's would have a choice as to the order and what will be on the soundtrack. It's still their material before they give the rights away to whatever company. But yes, I know for a fact that it is true, because that is what Beltrami told me. I don't think it's that they wouldn't want all their music available to the public it's just they don't get the money in order for them to do that. It's very expensive, as stated earlier. Think of it, the mixer has to get paid, the composer, composer's agents, the entire orchestra has to get a sum, etc. Everything involved in the making of the music has to get paid by someone, somehow. Just think of it, you wouldn't be part of the music business if you weren't going to get paid, no one does jobs for free anymore. It's partially how I see it, and what I've been told man, I don't know what is honestly true, but I believe what he says. And what's this about 10th anniversary Harry Potter soundtracks, and them being 80 minutes? I see nothing on La-La Land's website, am I missing something?

bollemanneke
12-01-2013, 09:21 PM
That was just me referring to the Jurassic Park anniversary edition.

But But why does it have to be so expensive? All the music is already recorded in its entirety, isn't it? And really, do they think that they won't get the money out of a complete release? I mean, if for example Titanic got a truly complete release, Horner's fanbase would be so eager to buy it that the production costs seem like a trivial price, no?

Amanda
12-01-2013, 09:22 PM
We actually can't be sure about Goldsmiths wants just now.....

BUT, Williams for sure re-recorded album versions of tracks, and decided on what order to arrange them to make them a more listenable experience. That is common for nearly all of his work. So yes, he at least has a finger in the pie...errr.....

Plutopurto
12-02-2013, 12:27 AM
The complete recordings of TLotR scores is probably the only time in my life nearly all the score has or will be officially released.

DAKoftheOTA
12-02-2013, 12:52 AM
The complete recordings of TLotR scores is probably the only time in my life nearly all the score has or will be officially released.

Don't forget most La-La Land and Intrada releases

DjawadiFan
12-02-2013, 01:18 AM
Don't forget most La-La Land and Intrada releases

And they both won't release something one day such like TLOR-TCR.

Plutopurto
12-02-2013, 10:43 AM
I think, for me personally, the Lord of the Rings had to be released in a complete-ish form. It is so monumental and integral you hear the full thing as Shore had intended. In comparison to their standard releases, it was like receiving a broken present for Christmas or a birthday and then the CR's were released and it was like a ray of light from one of the 2000 heavens religions talk about.

dsguardian
12-03-2013, 06:27 AM
Wait a minute, when did the sessions leak for either of the Deathly Hallows movies?? (I'm referring to a post earlier here that seems to have been edited.)

The only thing I've seen for those are the demos.

Amanda
12-03-2013, 06:37 AM
Perhaps it was edited because the poster had the demos and mis typed. Or perhaps, though the sessions have leaked to a few, not everyone has or knows about it? Or...who knows?

DaviD^8
12-03-2013, 06:40 AM
Wait a minute, when did the sessions leak for either of the Deathly Hallows movies?? (I'm referring to a post earlier here that seems to have been edited.)

The only thing I've seen for those are the demos.


Perhaps it was edited because the poster had the demos and mis typed. Or perhaps, though the sessions have leaked to a few, not everyone has or knows about it? Or...who knows?

at least 6 members here have the sessions for both there are probably others but 6 that i know of for certain and they are among us every day

Amanda
12-03-2013, 06:54 AM
Yea, but we all know how that goes, right. They are likely not "allowed" to share them. You have all seen what happens to those who go against that. That, and they are still useful as trade. If members here have them, then it will only be a matter of time. Or not. But people who see us everyday have any number of "grails". That's just the way it is and we all know that.

bollemanneke
12-03-2013, 09:07 AM
They are not useful for trade at all for some. For some, keeping them safe is just trying to restore the damage scoreman did to the original sharer. Go back to the Goblet of Fire thread and see what happened onpage seven. If we ever want to see Azkaban, the last thing that needs to happen is upsetting the guy more.

Amanda
12-03-2013, 11:21 AM
They are not useful for trade at all for some. For some, keeping them safe is just trying to restore the damage scoreman did to the original sharer. Go back to the Goblet of Fire thread and see what happened onpage seven. If we ever want to see Azkaban, the last thing that needs to happen is upsetting the guy more.

I'm sorry, but I can't personally follow with that. "keep it safe"? We were always told that when a thing had no more intrisic trade value, the likleyhood of getting it posted here goes up. What you are suggesting is that it is deliberately being kept private, despite it not being "secret' or "valuable". Tis is saying that members have formed a private decision to keep it from here to appease someone who originally shared it, which directly contradicts statements others have made that that is not done. :/ I know, the entire collection is desired, especially 3. But despite seeing your point I find the practice very distasteful.

And before anyone jumps on that bandwagon and screams "elitists", I **think** they are hoping to heal wounds and perhaps get Potter 3 leaked. If they leak the others now that will never happen. That is true enough so consider it before getting mad about it.

bollemanneke
12-03-2013, 05:43 PM
You're right about the appeasing part. Seeing as 3 is very desired, as you say, more leaks would be very bad. I can only for myself now, but for me it's not an 'I have things and you don't, hahaha!' thing at all. It's just the only way to get these damn HP sessions.

ygmmasta
12-03-2013, 07:35 PM
You're right about the appeasing part. Seeing as 3 is very desired, as you say, more leaks would be very bad. I can only for myself now, but for me it's not an 'I have things and you don't, hahaha!' thing at all. It's just the only way to get these damn HP sessions.

And we do want them, don't we...?

bollemanneke
12-03-2013, 08:00 PM
I must admit that even I am starting to crve A Winter's Spell from Azkaban by now. To return to the original subject of this thread, if only those stupid FYCs had any surplus value like unreleased music.

Lockdown
12-03-2013, 09:20 PM
Wait a minute, when did the sessions leak for either of the Deathly Hallows movies?? (I'm referring to a post earlier here that seems to have been edited.)

The only thing I've seen for those are the demos.
No there is a circle of members on the shrine that share the sessions they get with others and then keep it within their circle of friends.

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if only those stupid FYCs had any surplus value like unreleased music.
They have things on there that your HP 8 Sessions don't have. That's all I know.

Amanda
12-03-2013, 09:46 PM
And we do want them, don't we...?


Personally? No. Beyond the last williams one, I could watch the scores butn and smile as I hate theme all. Ok, well have no feelings for them at all.

bollemanneke
12-03-2013, 09:57 PM
Hooper has an etremely low fanbase indeed. Phoenix was kind of uneventful but Prince has some amazing orhhestral pieces.

Amanda
12-03-2013, 10:21 PM
It's not really the composer. More likely the films which past part two i really disliked. Each one more as they progressed, so I don't really seek out those scores. I was kidding about hating them, I just have no interest.

Plutopurto
12-04-2013, 09:13 AM
I have to say HP3 sessions are the last great score for me to collect and more importantly listen to. Aside from SWE3 sessions, If I can get HP3, I can finally die.

DAKoftheOTA
12-04-2013, 10:45 AM
They have things on there that your HP 8 Sessions don't have. That's all I know.

I've heard something similar

Lockdown
12-04-2013, 09:18 PM
Wouldn't you have to listen to HP 3 before you die, or you just get the sessions and die? Cause that wouldn't make much sense for how long you waited for them.

bollemanneke
12-04-2013, 09:22 PM
I hope I'll have them before I'm old enough to suffer from heart attacks when I actually receive them. But they'll probably be out when we're all young enough to enjoy them.

Lockdown
12-04-2013, 09:33 PM
There's no age where you can't still enjoy music, unless of course you become unfortunately deaf. But, other than that.

Plutopurto
12-05-2013, 05:09 AM
Wouldn't you have to listen to HP 3 before you die, or you just get the sessions and die? Cause that wouldn't make much sense for how long you waited for them.

Of course. I will listen to it.

Then die.

My life would be complete.

Faleel
12-07-2013, 03:46 AM
We actually can't be sure about Goldsmiths wants just now.....

He is quoted as saying he did not feel all of his scores needed to be on record.

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Yeah, I see what you mean. But hang on, are you saying that composers have a finger in the pie? As I understood it, what happens is that they sign ane vil contract that gives the company to do whatever it pleases without them having any say in anything at all... What composer doesn't want all of his music available to the public?

Also, Hans Zimmer blocked a LLL released of The Last Samurai, so keep a tight hold on the sessions folks!

Plutopurto
12-07-2013, 04:01 AM
Has LLL or Intrada ever tried releasing a complete score for Star Wars, or is that safely coveted somewhere?

Amanda
12-07-2013, 04:04 AM
He is quoted as saying he did not feel all of his scores needed to be on record.

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Also, Hans Zimmer blocked a LLL released of The Last Samurai, so keep a tight hold on the sessions folks!

That does not mean he did not want full sets for some albums. He is sadly not here to see the surge in expanded and limited edition items, so we cannot say FOR SURE what his thoughts on the new atmosphere may have been. People have been known to change their minds.

But this and William's albums do show the control composers have in the assembling of what we hear. Mr. McCreary decides what gets put on his albums, as does Murray Gold. They discuss such decisions in their liner notes even. So yes, composers are a big part of what music you get on releases. At least the initial OST releases, anyway.

Also, not wanting it released, and feeling it was not needed are two different things. He seems to have felt that there was no need for smaller short stings and cues, nor repetitions of the same piece over and over. He like others wanted a certain flow for the audience listening experience. Hence John Williams composing concert versions of the big themes for the Star Wars films, as an example. They also do not care about chronological order, favoring a better balance/flow.

bollemanneke
12-07-2013, 10:28 AM
LOL that is so ironic! Zimmer doesn't want TLS released and look what happened! Would he actually be pissed off with himself now after seeing all the exited reactions to the sessions being out?

Lockdown
12-08-2013, 07:50 AM
I think he knows whether or not people would be excited about it..just my opinion. Like he knows, if there was an actual complete release of Inception, The Dark Knight Trilogy, etc. they would get a lot of sales, in my opinion. But, I don't think he will ever do it, or allow it to happen. Don't ask me why, I have no idea, I wish he would too.

bollemanneke
12-08-2013, 10:38 AM
Well, if you'd really want HZ complete scores physically, I suppose you could make your own CDs and include a nice cover. The HUGE advantage with Zimmer sessions is that the leaks are always very listenable. You know, no extreme silences, stage noises... It's like the leaks are the way he would present a complete score. He should definitely give complete releases some thought because his albums suck.

Amanda
12-08-2013, 12:28 PM
The leaks have not been "mastered" by whatever deaf person does the official cd's....:awsm:

You can actually, you know, hear the music....

DjawadiFan
12-16-2013, 07:55 PM
Alright.....
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/harry-potter-deathly-hallows-part-fyc-243266442

Lockdown
12-22-2013, 01:36 AM
Well I found out that there is a Chamber of Secrets FYC..and also a Goblet of Fire FYC...damn

Lockdown
11-03-2014, 05:35 PM
I have every FYC but the Goblet of Fire, and the Order of the Phoenix..

bollemanneke
11-03-2014, 07:20 PM
I'd love that GOF FYC.

Lockdown
11-03-2014, 10:05 PM
I'd love that GOF FYC.
I'll get it eventually haha ;)

Lockdown
11-27-2014, 08:40 PM
Well, all I need now is HP5's FYC..

bollemanneke
11-27-2014, 08:53 PM
Would you be interested in it if it was only 8 tracks like the other one?

Lockdown
11-27-2014, 10:48 PM
Yeah...and I guess that sounds lame to you. But it will be awesome for me, because I'll have all 8 HP FYCs, which is pretty rare to say, imo.. :)

Lockdown
04-09-2015, 02:25 AM
Does anyone have the FYC to Order of the Phoenix?

bollemanneke
04-09-2015, 08:26 AM
It appears they don't...