I've never played a Final Fantasy all the way through and would like to, which game should I start with? I have a hard time playing really old games if the visuals are really bad. Although I still find myself playing Goldeneye from time to time.

The SNES era of FF's is considered by many long term FF fans to be the best in terms of story, battle system and characters. As long as the game has those three, graphics are just the 'icing on the cake'... nice to have, but not 'needed'.

I would suggest either Final Fantasy IV or Final Fantasy VI to start out on personally. However, if you're after graphics instead of anything else, then any from PS2 to current era then.

It's kind of hard to say. I started with X, then went back to VII and worked my way up from there. I've heard good things about VI but to be honest I can't get invested in the game because of the graphics sadly. If graphics don't bother you that's probably a good one to start with, as it's a fan favourite. If you're like me about graphics then VII might be a good start too since it's also so well loved. Either that or IX, because IX has a very distinct Final Fantasy 'feel' that would probably be a good introduction to the series.

Is there a chronological order to the series? It sounds like I might want to start witht he ps2 games.

The games are all separate stories and characters so it doesn't really matter which you start with. Only the spin offs or direct equals really need to be played in order (X/X-2 or FFVII-DOC). X was the first PS2 game and it was my first and it got me totally hooked on the series so it's definitely a good one to start with. They all are really. But the PS1 games are just as amazing.

If you start with just the PS2 generation of Final Fantasy games, you are missing a lot of great stories and characters from the previous games.


But the PS1 games are just as amazing.


The SNES games are far better though in terms of story and character development imo.

Well, Final Fantasy I on NES is kind of not a good game to start out with, that's for sure, unless you are really into old somewhat confusing and buggy D&D-influenced RPGs (not saying that it's a bad game, but it is a lot inferiour compared to the later Final Fantasy games in some ways).

It really depends on where you come from. If you have played other Turn-based RPGs on SNES before, I'd say play FF VI. Otherwise, I'm not entirely sure.
Of course, there is also the option to play that other acclaimed RPG Squaresoft made on the SNES (which does share quite a few things with various games from the Final Fantasy series).

FF1 is a decent game for an nes game, just that back then the stories were limited because of the cartridge.
That's like saying:The original dracula movie sucks cause it has no sound.The original ff1 was a good game for its time, but it depends on when you were born.If you were born too late, you are used to all the fancy flashy graphics, and most probably started circa 2000ad.

I personally believe its best for kids to start with old games, and work their way up, because that way they know their history and get to understand what made games great back in 1980-now, and learn to appreciate quality of gameplay and story instead of how pretty the graphics are.The graphics were not pretty or flashy in 1980's, and the story was limited, so you have to play with an open mind.Keep in mind that there are some games more modern which try to go back to the pc games like wizardry and bards tale.That game, is etrian odyssey 1-4.The story is limited so far, but it very much focuses on the old gameplay.See what i mean? If some games try to copy that style, and its old, then there must be something done right.

In my opinion:start with ff1 and work your way to FFXIV and dissidia 2.

I started with FFIX and it was an absolutely stunning journey that got me hooked to other Final Fantasy games. I would say to start earlier on in the series where things are more...basic I guess? Maybe start with IV.

I started with FFIX and it was an absolutely stunning journey that got me hooked to other Final Fantasy games. I would say to start earlier on in the series where things are more...basic I guess? Maybe start with IV.


FF1 is as basic as it gets, and FFIV is far more complex in storytelling than ff1.

FF1 and FF3 on the nes are about exact in terms of storytelling, except that ff3 has slightly more, but not much more.The characters are all blank slate, unlike FF2 on the nes which actually tried to give characters a backstory.

If you had played ff1 and ff4, you would appreciate more the attempt of what ff9 was doing.It is a sort of tribute to the old games of ff1-ff4.You can tell, because of the sprites used.White mage black mage etc etc.The fact that ff9 is a tribute to the old is one reason why old schoolers appreciate ff9.FF9 tries to stay true to the series by keeping the older ones still part of the legacy, but i fear that the series has become too sci-fi and futuristic.It is barely fantasy anymore, and that is one thing you would realize if you started with the really early games.You would realize that ff games started out paying homage to D&D, and it had roleplaying elements.The thing is:japanese games are more about showing you the story than allowing to create your own story, but that is nothing new in the jrpg world.The early american rpgs, like:Ultima also were about telling you the story.Sure you could move around the map, but you were following an already preset story.

So the main reason to start with old games, is to appreciate what you could get from a story without flashy graphics to show them.Sure, there are better games out there, but for their time,the first games were good.Modern jrpgs are to caught up in trying to be movies instead of trying to be games, and don't know how to immerse you anymore.Its like some of these modern flashy movies which do more flash but the movie ends up being inferior to the old ones, because there is too much flash and not enough concentration on the character development and story.

I mostly meant game play wise because complex stories shouldn't really be a problem as I assume everyone would be into that. But of course the very first games are as basic as it gets, but I thought I might offer something that isn't too simple but not too complicated either and still earlier on in the series. c: And I guess I offered FFIV because it is definitely one of my favorites and definitely has a captivating story and characters and it only gets better from there. (Not that 1-3 had bad characters or stories, but as we both said, basic as it gets)

I don't feel like FFIX is too sci fi or futuristic at all. O_o Whenever I talk about the things I like about IX it's the fact that it remains to be the one I feel has the most *fantasy* feeling to it according to it's story, it's atmosphere, and it's soundtrack. The only time I ever felt it started turning that way was during FFXII and I still loved that game - they kind of just slowly started pushing in more futuristic technology and plot ideas which didn't bother me. FFXIII while has charming characters (and gameplay to some, not me personally) - definitely took the road of being more futuristic. It seems FFXV is going to do the same, though there are hints of of areas without the modern feel to it.

While I don't mind that direction, I feel FF really shines when it sticks to it's roots.

I mostly meant game play wise because complex stories shouldn't really be a problem as I assume everyone would be into that. But of course the very first games are as basic as it gets, but I thought I might offer something that isn't too simple but not too complicated either and still earlier on in the series. c: And I guess I offered FFIV because it is definitely one of my favorites and definitely has a captivating story and characters and it only gets better from there. (Not that 1-3 had bad characters or stories, but as we both said, basic as it gets)

I don't feel like FFIX is too sci fi or futuristic at all. O_o Whenever I talk about the things I like about IX it's the fact that it remains to be the one I feel has the most *fantasy* feeling to it according to it's story, it's atmosphere, and it's soundtrack. The only time I ever felt it started turning that way was during FFXII and I still loved that game - they kind of just slowly started pushing in more futuristic technology and plot ideas which didn't bother me. FFXIII while has charming characters (and gameplay to some, not me personally) - definitely took the road of being more futuristic. It seems FFXV is going to do the same, though there are hints of of areas without the modern feel to it.

While I don't mind that direction, I feel FF really shines when it sticks to it's roots.

I'm going to assume you are very young, and started with later games, making you accustomed to flashy cutscenes and being forced to follow 1 direction, and being punished for exploration.Story wise, its like comparing dune of 1985 with the newer flashy dune.The original was already really well done and better overall.Unlike lord of the rings where the flashy effects are important for showing the amount of orcs and the battles themselves.Cutscenes and special effects should be used when needed.You talk about ff4.FF4's story is simple and focused, and that is why it works over some other games, like FFX where there is nothing going on for a long time, and the game is pretty much just jerking itself off, and that is one thing i dislike about some modern jrpgs.Old games got to the point, because they had limited space and had to make everything count.I believe in quality over quantity, and that having more doesn't necessarily mean its better.You see a lot more movies now that are 2 and a half hours long, and some don't need to be that long.


When it comes to sci fi over rpg:I think it depends.There is i believe some sci fi D&D, but if you aren't careful, you might completely abandon your roots.I think square enix has forgotten that final fantasy should have some fantasy in it, because it has the word fantasy in its name.

You're assuming wrong on the very young part ( though I'm not very old either ). The first FF game I ever played was FFIX, and then I seemed to go backwards from there. After I finished going backwards I went forwards. I really don't care about cutscenes and flashiness though, as I prefer story lines and character development. Naturally the game play is important to me too. If it looks nice that's fine too, but it's definitely the least of what impresses me in a game. Arguably, all of the games storylines are simple and focused. It's the depth of those storylines and characters that makes it what it is.

Personally, I started with Super Nintendo, I was born when it was released, then N64 & PS then PS2 & Xbox.... but have grown very accustom to the visuals of the last few years of PC gaming, which has spoiled the hell out of me. I really enjoyed the KOTOR series and still play it from time to time. Let's not let this thread become "you like/dislike older systems so you must be 16/40 years old." There's plenty to like and dislike about the last few decades of gaming.

I'm just a little annoyed.There is someone on this forum who never even played all the old games and couldn't get over the pixelated.Thats like saying that something like:I'm not going to watch nosferatu or classics like the original frankenstein because both are in black and white, and nosferatu is silent, and there are no special effects.Its a sort of mentality that says:I'm shallow and have short attention span, and can't spend 5 minutes without a huge cutscene and or explosion.

This is why i think you should start with old and go towards new.You learn to appreciate stuff better.

I'm just a little annoyed.There is someone on this forum who never even played all the old games and couldn't get over the pixelated.Thats like saying that something like:I'm not going to watch nosferatu or classics like the original frankenstein because both are in black and white, and nosferatu is silent, and there are no special effects.Its a sort of mentality that says:I'm shallow and have short attention span, and can't spend 5 minutes without a huge cutscene and or explosion.

This is why i think you should start with old and go towards new.You learn to appreciate stuff better.

What's shallow is not being willing to accept that different people like different things and not everybody is going to spend hours (FF games are very long) on something they don't enjoy. Maybe you should learn to appreciate that.

Its not that people like different things, but that you aren't willing to give old stuff a chance.Ultima series for an example came before final fantasy, and with it you get a greater appreciation for the artwork put in by game designers.you are unwilling to give ff1 ultima 3 exodus and games like that a chance, because their graphics aren't 3D.I understand its antiquated, but thats like saying:I'm not going to watch nosferatu because its in black and white and a silent film, or watching boris karloff as frankenstein because it is from the 30s or 40s.I have tried games that were before even my time, and it was hard for me but i did it.You think i'm used to the atari 2600? no i'm not.I never had an atari console in my life, and even the original ultima and even something like akalabat is before my time.Akalabat came out in 1979, and ultima 1 came out in 1980.I'm just saying that if you are a true rpg fan, you might want to give them a try.If you refuse, then it seems to me like your not a true fan, but a graphics whore.

There are plenty of games outside final fantasy that are to be explored, some new, some old.What about baldurs gate series? What about wasteland? the old elder scrolls games? you going to say no to them too?

Its not that people like different things, but that you aren't willing to give old stuff a chance.
What the?! :rotfl: How would you know about that? Seriously, anyone is entitled to like (or dislike) a game for whatever reason, Nostalgia. Somebody doesn't want to play a game simply because it doesn't have graphics which match the player's liking? So what? Just respect that, it's their goddamn business. This was repeated countless times to you, but apparently you don't want to get it: people like (and want) different things from games. There are folks who don't really give a shit about gameplay, as long as the game/chapter they're playing develops their favourite saga's plot; there's place for someone who wants to enjoy the "view", too.

Oh, right, chuckling at the definition "true fan". Please, spare me from seeing this place become a CAPCOM-Unity's branch. There are already enough assholes in the world, thinking they're better than others... For stupid and idiotic reasons, most of the time.
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It seems to me you are way too presumptuous, Nostalgia gamer, or rather... Unable to hold a discussion, no matter how many times other users detail their opinions, you go and mumble about the same stuff, also "belittling" such opinions, in some way or form. A suggestion: change, become more respectful of others.

Belittling? Its a little frustrating when someone says they are a fan of the series, and yet they haven't played the entire things cause of something as petty as graphics.That also means that non related games that are also old are out of the question, and that= Limitations.That means you won't play secret of mana cause its old.FF4 is a classic and its been remade a bunch of times.Even re1 which you have a picture of(first one not second one) was remade and people still play the first one.Its graphics are lousy for todays times, but who cares? that is my point.The game chiibi has on his/her pic is FFXIII and is considered by some as the worse ff of all time.Thats not to say new ffs are automatically bad because they are new, but completely dismissing all old games because they are old is madness.Cmon is there anyone else here who agrees with me at all? that dismissing ff1-3 completely cause they are old and not actually judging them on their merits is wrong?

1) There's no wrong nor right, just different perspectives and opinions. As long as you don't get this fact into your head, you're better off politely agreeing to disagree on the topic at hand, because it's crystal clear that both you and Sheechiibii will stand by your opinions (which, mind, is not a fault in either case).

2) Wrong or right doesn't really matter, here, whoever is still entitled to dismiss "X" game for whatever reason, just accept that and give it a rest. Who cares about graphics? I'd dare to say there are obviously a lot of folks which do, otherwise we wouldn't have stuff like High-Definition monitors, or visually-stunning series like God of War, and shitload of others.

As a side note, the picture which I have comes from a render-artwork of BIOHAZARD 6. BIOHAZARD 1/2/3 are crap, especially on nowadays' monitors.

I have told you numerous times Nostalgia Gamer that I have given older games a try and I didn't like them. I can't relate to characters I can't see as people. It has nothing to do with being old or not having sound or being black and white, or being 3D. It's the sprites I have a problem with, I can't see them as people, and so I can't relate to them or care about their story. It's purely down to the characters, since I've always enjoyed story and characters before gameplay. I have tried playing old games so it's not like I haven't given them a chance. I'm not going to sit through hours of gameplay playing games I can't get into and enjoy. I gave them a chance, and I didn't like them, and I have a very clear reason why.

As for being a 'true fan' I've never claimed to be a 'true fan' because I don't think such a thing exists. People have preferences, and in my opinion nobody is less of a fan because they like one rpg and don't like another.

And actually no, the pic I have is from FFXV which isn't out yet so you can't really judge whether it's a good game or not. I despised XIII.

1) There's no wrong nor right, just different perspectives and opinions. As long as you don't get this fact into your head, you're better off politely agreeing to disagree on the topic at hand, because it's crystal clear that both you and Sheechiibii will stand by your opinions (which, mind, is not a fault in either case).

2) Wrong or right doesn't really matter, here, whoever is still entitled to dismiss "X" game for whatever reason, just accept that and give it a rest. Who cares about graphics? I'd dare to say there are obviously a lot of folks which do, otherwise we wouldn't have stuff like High-Definition monitors, or visually-stunning series like God of War, and shitload of others.

As a side note, the picture which I have comes from a render-artwork of BIOHAZARD 6. BIOHAZARD 1/2/3 are crap, especially on nowadays' monitors.

There is nothing wrong with enjoying good graphics as long as it immerses the experience.The enemies in FFXIII and XIII-2 look good in those new age graphics, and fallout new vegas looks really good too.The problem exists if you only care about graphics and nothing else, not even the content.Say what you will, i still think its wrong to dismiss something because its old.Also:You are being terribly unfair to resident evil.I really like the combination of music and art.To me:Music and graphics as i said before are made to enhance the game, not to be the main theme.Who the fuck cares if water doesn't look 100% realistic? and what about artwork? I really like artwork drawings like the ones in ff6 and tactics.I liked looking at the portraits.

There is nothing wrong with enjoying good graphics as long as it immerses the experience.The enemies in FFXIII and XIII-2 look good in those new age graphics, and fallout new vegas looks really good too.The problem exists if you only care about graphics and nothing else, not even the content.Say what you will, i still think its wrong to dismiss something because its old.Also:You are being terribly unfair to resident evil.I really like the combination of music and art.To me:Music and graphics as i said before are made to enhance the game, not to be the main theme.Who the fuck cares if water doesn't look 100% realistic? and what about artwork? I really like artwork drawings like the ones in ff6 and tactics.I liked looking at the portraits.
Well, good for you if you want to keep thinking that it's wrong to dismiss a game because of its "age", I believe that what others tried to say to you is to be more... "understanding" of someone else's perspective/opinion.
Me being unfair to BIOHAZARD? Ahahahah! I'm objective, those games were developed in a time where resolutions like the ones we could enjoy today were, dare I say, unthinkable on a console.
I still love BIOHAZARD 2, nothing will ever top it, for me, but getting to play it today on a PlayStation 3, with its built-in resolution~enhancement options, has the game simply look like crap: the picture gets way too stretched to cover most of the monitor, way too "pixelated". Those who want to enjoy completely the old REs are better off using an old SCART, or get a hold of the PC ports.

Who the fuck cares if stuff doesn't look realistic? Again, there are those who care. Learn to accept it. Not everyone is like you, Nostalgia.

Well, good for you if you want to keep thinking that it's wrong to dismiss a game because of its "age", I believe that what others tried to say to you is to be more... "understanding" of someone else's perspective/opinion.
Me being unfair to BIOHAZARD? Ahahahah! I'm objective, those games were developed in a time where resolutions like the ones we could enjoy today were, dare I say, unthinkable on a console.
I still love BIOHAZARD 2, nothing will ever top it, for me, but getting to play it today on a PlayStation 3, with its built-in resolution~enhancement options, has the game simply look like crap: the picture gets way too stretched to cover most of the monitor, way too "pixelated". Those who want to enjoy completely the old REs are better off using an old SCART, or get a hold of the PC ports.

Who the fuck cares if stuff doesn't look realistic? Again, there are those who care. Learn to accept it. Not everyone is like you, Nostalgia.

You make me sad then.You seem to only care about how pretty something looks, even if it might or might not be empty shell of a game.You really care more about how pretty something looks over gameplay story and replay value? really?

Nostalgia Gamer, you seem to think that it's about something looking pretty or not. For me that's not what it's about at all. For me I enjoy story and characters before anything else like gameplay or graphics. The only reason I don't play games with sprites is because I cannot relate to them as a character, I can't picture them as a real person, so their story doesn't connect with me. It's not about looking pretty at all, it's about getting immersed in the world and the story and the characters. Without that I don't enjoy the game, so why would I play it?

Sigh... I don't really care about graphics, for me the game must "function" as a whole, but... and I do mean BUT, I'm not beyond accepting someone else might give more importance to graphics. Their life. Their taste. Their business.

Also, I won't fail to recognize a favourite game of mine as "outdated" and "crappy" simply because it is my... Favourite. As I've previously stated, I still love BIOHAZARD 2 and personally think it is the best game ever made, but nowadays it simply doesn't work as good as it used to back then. Bottom line is: I won't let nostalgic feelings get in the way of my judgement.

Sigh... I don't really care about graphics, for me the game must "function" as a whole, but... and I do mean BUT, I'm not beyond accepting someone else might give more importance to graphics. Their life. Their taste. Their business.

Also, I won't fail to recognize a favourite game of mine as "outdated" and "crappy" simply because it is my... Favourite. As I've previously stated, I still love BIOHAZARD 2 and personally think it is the best game ever made, but nowadays it simply doesn't work as good as it used to back then. Bottom line is: I won't let nostalgic feelings get in the way of my judgement.

And why would you bash a game you love? thats silly.Resident evil 1 and 2 had that horror feel, like resident evil code veronica.Even re0 and 3 and resident evil remake.Sure it was silly, but you can appreciate its campy feel of the original game.I understand what you mean though.The voice actors of the newer re games seem less campy and a little lets say more professional? even some dialogue in the original silent hill seemed silly.But the original game scared the heck out of me, and i'm not afraid to say it, and i really like that about it.I just think its good to never lose sight.There are some out there who miss the original resident evil campy voice acting though.I for one can understand it to a certain point, but i do think its a little better with these new voice acting, though i think wesker in re5 was pretty bad.

As for chibii:I understand, its hard because you aren't used to it.Lets just agree to disagree then? i'l never convince you that classic ff4 is great, i mean:I do like improved graphics, it gives a clearer definition of the character.At the same time:The old games because they were sprites made you try and imagine what the characters looked like.Now they can actually show you what characters look like, which is a good thing.I don't think though that ff series as a whole has ever reached to be as good as book quality stories though, but thats another story.

I don't think it's about not being used to it. I wasn't used to ps1 era graphics but that didn't stop me from loving the games. If I really was only in it for the graphics then wouldn't I love XIII (my least favourite of the FF series) and hate VIII (my most favourite)? I think you're missing my point, the only thing I'm disagreeing with you on is that anyone who doesn't enjoy the things you do is automatically not as much of a fan and can't appreciate old games. I can appreciate something without enjoying it myself. I don't know why you say I'll never be convinced that FFIV is a great game because I have never once said any of the older game are bad in any way. All I've said is that they're not for me personally, that doesn't mean I think they're bad games. I think the FF series does have strong storylines, FFVIII and X for example I happily replay again and again the same way I reread books I love.

And why would you bash a game you love? thats silly.
Allow me to slightly reference what you've said before about a true fan: to me the best kind of player+fan is the one which sees the good things about a series and has no problem speaking about its obvious flaws. For example, BIOHAZARD is a really stupid saga, or rather... It was: you solved a senseless riddle, grabbed a key which would either come out of nowhere/leave you wondering "Why the hell is it here?", travelled all the way back through 12-15 screens/rooms, unlocked the door... Shuffle and repeat. One could say it was all part of the fun, but being objective, you'd have to find and study the goddamn architect which designed the place(s), or who the heck arranged all the key items. I take back what I've said: BIOHAZARD is an idiotic saga, only such idiocy came with different "flavours" throughout the years.

Resident evil 1 was campy, but there are those like necroscope86 and others who like the campy feel.Sometimes you have to also know when to let things go and not nitpick as well.Re series has flaws, but because of some of those flaws, people like some of it.I think its a middle ground the one of resident evil.It has major flaws, and i think the remake from what i've seen of the original, has a lot of really good things about it.It has the dark atmosphere and the lightning and zombies breaking down doors, but you also have to take it for what it was when it came out too.

The reason i criticize both of you, is because you are essencially saying:Because it is old, it is no longer good anymore and worth playing, which is bs.Lufia 1 and 2 were simple but good, and some on this forum preferred the original over the ds.I think it was reaver.Also:How can you really appreciate the series if you don't take a look back? Sure the graphics are outdated by today's times, but there was something about the limitation and how it was used.This isn't about just not liking something, but unable to be open minded about something that is old and immediately dismissing it because you cannot look past the graphics part.You say you play ps1, but that is cause it is what you grew up with.Its no excuse to not at least give breath of fire 1 and 2 a chance.You are both making excuses to not try them.As i said:What about secret of mana? its a big game and its in 2d.You going to dismiss that one too just cause its in 2d? What if it never gets a remake?

How old are you chibii? Just curious.If you are 20 years old, that would mean you were brought up around the ps2 and 3 era, meaning you are already used to voice acting and stuff like that.It means you would have been brought up around the ps2 era, and xbox.It means that you probably started with ps2 and maybe had some cousin/brother/friend who had the ps1 games and brought you something like ff7 ff8 and FFX.

My point is:When you get to be in your 30s, some people 10 years younger will come around and say:the games you liked are shit and refuse to play them, because they are old for now and say:look at the old ass graphics, and you will say:But i liked ff8.Did you even play it? That is my point.How can you judge something without playing it? It just all seems so shallow.Back when i was a little kid, we didn't have mobile phones and for us, what was around was high tech.I do like the new graphics in new games and expect it, but i am able to look back at old stuff and still appreciate it.Can you Leon? You seem to like the series but you are confusing me.Are you a resident evil fan or not?

I don't hate the story in ff8 btw.Sure its really bad, and ultimecia for me is probably the worse villain in ff history.Worse even than barthandalus and garland and even x death, because at least FF5 never took itself seriously.Heck:I really don't like ff7, but i still think its a good game, and i don't think it should be completely bashed.It has nothing to do with something stupid like graphics, even though the ,polygons do look terrible if i may say so myself, i still think that those jerks who are still criticizing it in ff7 are talking about it, i say:GET OVER IT!! its graphics.

Stop looking so much at the graphics, and pay more attention to the story/characters and music.Pay attention to the writing.

Thats my point.I wouldn't expect low end graphics now, but its not the end all be all of games.Saying if graphics is important in a game if its subjective is missing the point completely.You are standing too close to the picture and not seeing the big picture, which is everything that makes a work of art a work of art.

Voice acting is good when utilized correctly.FF8 had no voice acting but you could more or less make out their feelings.The music also helps and also the style of writing.Take for an example in ff4 the original:Head down=sad Head up=either happy.Sure it was limited, but if you could look past its limitations, you could appreciate it for what it was then:It was good for 1991.That is why i say that you should start with old and go in the end with new.You learn to appreciate the old first for what it did, and how each game improves upon things in measure.Doing this means you greatly appreciate the modern technology more for what its done, and that is what i was hoping to happen to you chibii, and leon.I wanted you guys to experience what i did when you went from having no cutscenes to going to ff7 ff8 and ff9 when you get improved quality cutscenes, to FFX with voice acting, so you guys could experience it.

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Take nazis at the center of the earth leon:It is so bad, that it is good.It is because it is so bad, that it ends up being a ,parody of bad movies.See what i mean?

I'm 21. The first game I ever played was FFX and it had voice acting, I bought a PS2 specifically because I wanted to play that game and after that I was hooked on RPGs, and I went backwards and played the older ones as far back as I could enjoy. Please start reading what I'm actually saying and reply to that instead of putting words in my mouth:

I've never said old games are shit or bad or not worth playing or anything or the sort.
I've never said I wouldn't try a game just because it's old.

FFVIII was old to me but I loved it and it's my favourite game. Being old for my generation has nothing at all to do with why I haven't played the older FF games. I went back playing them all until I got to VI and encountered sprites and realised that games with sprites in them are not my thing. I tried the game, and I found I didn't enjoy it. I haven't said it's bad. I haven't said it's not worth playing. I haven't judged anything without playing it. In my first reply in this topic I said that VI is probably a good game in the series to start with since it's a fan favourite.

You tell me to pay attention to the characters, when this entire time I've tried to explain to you that this is what I do, and it's the reason I don't enjoy games with sprites. Characters/story are one of the most important things in a game to me, and if I can't get invested in that I don't enjoy the game. I'm not saying games with sprites are bad, so please stop replying to me as if I've ever said that or anything even remotely like that. It's really frustrating to have to explain this every time you reply to me. I do appreciate the craftsmanship of older games, just because I don't enjoy playing games with sprites does not mean I know nothing about them.

I'm not saying games with sprites are bad[/B], so please stop replying to me as if I've ever said that or anything even remotely like that. It's really frustrating to have to explain this every time you reply to me. I do appreciate the craftsmanship of older games, just because I don't enjoy playing games with sprites does not mean I know nothing about them.

I actually Believe you should start with ff1 not ff6.Its the fan favorite by some i guess, but ff 1 is where it all started with the series.And that's ok i guess.

And you're fully entitled to your opinion. But games with sprites aren't my thing, I just don't enjoy them, whether that's FFI or FFVI. It doesn't mean I'm saying they're bad or not for anyone, it just means I'm saying they're not for me personally. That doesn't make me shallow.

Man the first one was the original one for the NES. Enjoyed it and got all of the original gameboy Final Fantasy's as well. My favorite though was Final Fantasy 2. With Cecil, Rosa, Cain, Goblez and the likes. It was a blast staying up late at night leveling up and played it through a couple times. Then I had some Japanese friends who let me borrow Final Fantasy V as it was called on the famicom. Cut the plastic clips out of my US system to play it. It was even better than 2 graphics and spellwise but I couldn't read Japanese and got stuck in the desert eventually. When FF 3 came out for SNES it made me forget all about FFV. Overall I will say Final Fantasy 2 for SNES is my all time favorite, but honestly I stopped playing them after FFX

Final Fantasy VI.
Best Story Line.
Best Characters.
Awesome Classic!

The thing is, it's not always practical to play them in order. I never went out of my way to play the Final Fantasy games, I found VIII in a pile of games when I moved in with my boyfriend, and decided to start playing it. Since then, I've played every FF game that I can get hold of, and it's not always easy to do that without resorting to emulators, and I'm not keen on playing games with my keyboard. I don't think that you have to play them in any particular order, I just think that you should give each game a chance if you can get hold of them. I think that's more important than playing them in order.

VIII was my first, but I wouldn't say it was my favourite- not at the moment anyway. My favourite tends to depend on my mood and what I'm playing at the time.

And with some of the older ones, they do have remakes if for some reason you're not keen on the graphics of the original, although I wouldn't say that the graphics are a problem myself.

Start with one you can easily find. I don't think it matters which one. You can always go on to other games. I usually have two or three on the go at once, and dip in and out when I get stuck on one. At least after my first playthrough.

I wasted hours deciding which part between 7-9 I am going to play.. .:D

Final Fantasy 7. The overhead view has a nice lego charm to it.