Info on mastering process (http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/flair/e/k2hd/k2hd.html)

Tracklist:

01. Theme From Schindler's List (4:15)
02. Jewish Town (Krakow Ghetto - Winter '41) (4:40)
03. Immolation (With Our Lives, We Give Life) (4:44)
04. Remembrances (4:20)
05. Schindler's Workforce (9:08)
06. OYF'N Pripetshok & Nacht Aktion (2:56)
07. I Could Have Done More (5:52)
08. Auschwitz-Birkenau (3:41)
09. Stolen Memories (4:20)
10. Making The List (5:11)
11. Give Me Your Names (4:55)
12. Yeroushalaim Chel Zahav (Jerusalem of Gold) (2:17)
13. Remembrances (5:17)
14. Theme From Schindler's List (Reprise) (2:59)

K2HD Version (https://mega.co.nz/#!CZVDXKRD!bAKkZgAVkqNqxQlzkdFhgiwxevUDy1lYDHaSnNF Ez04)

OR

MCA Ultimate Masterdisc Version (https://mega.co.nz/#!Td0kFQ5B!RVBrOhlocm11_9YhJwDj5wHmKBU4QolscKQUl2p uNkQ)

Many thanks

Interesting technology. Thanks for this!
Will definitely have fun looking at this.

There are several other OST related titles in this format. Off the top of my head there's...

John Barry - Somewhere In Time
Vangelis - Themes
Vangelis - Antarctica
Yo-Yo Ma Plays Ennio Morricone
Ennio Morricone - Legend of 1900
James Horner - Titanic
The Pianist - OST

I don't have these sadly :-( but if I had to pick one, Vangelis - Themes would be at the top of my list.

Yeah, Vangelis or bust.

Hmmm. Interesting.

I had thought these would be HDCD encoded but eac3to shows nothing.

What's even more interesting is when I decode "01 - Theme (Master).flac" to WAV and then convert it back to FLAC (with compression level 8), it's 20.8MB instead 43.2MB.
Bit-comparisons show that the two versions are identical.
I've even decoded the second FLAC-encoded file (20.8MB) back to WAV and did bit-comparisons with the original and it's still identical.

I presume the Master CD was ripped at a low compression level? Or default (usually 5).

Looking at the link for more information, it does seem the final output is 16 bit depth, 44.1KHz and no mention of HDCD or other new technology.

So I would presume that these are Top-Of-The-Line remasters for CD. Thee best quality you can obtain (for CD; before getting your hands on original masters and digital formats of the masters for consumer levels like with HDTracks.com).

Similar to:
Remastering a DVD with a Blu-ray copy instead of the same DVD copy.
:smrt:


Which one to download?
Probably the Master to CD? I guess.
Both are outstanding quality.
I'm listening to it right now as I eat my Canadian Thanksgiving dinner and have nothing but sorrow and pain in my weepy heart. :sad:

I can't really do a bit-comparison between the Master and the 2KHD because they are of different lengths.

Differences found in 1 out of 1 track pairs.

Comparing:
"E:\Downloads\Music\Lossless\John Williams - Schindler's List [MCA Ultimate Masterdisc]\01 John Williams - Theme.flac"
"E:\Downloads\Music\Lossless\John Williams - Schindler's List [K2HD Mastering]\01. Theme.flac"
Length mismatch : 4:15.093333 vs 4:15.693333, 11249616 vs 11276076 samples



I'm not going to open them in Audacity or anything to make them equal length and then do a bit-comparison.


If your goal is to save bandwidth on a limited internet speed: go for the 2KHD download as it is smallest download.
The Master set is over-bloated in compression size.
For the Master set, if you want to save space, you can re-convert with FLAC to maximum compression: 8.

Very, very interesting! Thankfully you shared the best disc from that list in post #4.

Titanic has basically been released in every mainstream format known to us. What a waste... :p

Thank you very much

I would be grateful for the links. Thank you for sharing this rare one!

Thank you for your great upload, mr_merrick!

I would be grateful for the links. Thank you for sharing this rare one!

Links are there... Just click on your logo of choice.

Thank you very much for this post.

What?

Huh?

Thank-you Mr. Merrick, very much appreciated.

merci mister :whatislove:

Fascinating post. By your command, John Merrick.

thanks a lot mr m

Thank you for this great post, looking forward to hearing this score again with such clean dynamic sound.

There are several other OST related titles in this format. Off the top of my head there's...

John Barry - Somewhere In Time


that would be on top of my list ;)


thanks btw, will compare the UMD to my current recording :)

Thanks very much!!

Thank you

Thank you share!

Thank you for sharing the K2HD versi�n :)

Thank you. Looking forward to listening to the differences.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Thank you so much for this!

Thank you very much mr merrick, this download is greatly appreciated. :)

Many thanks buddy!

Yes, thank you

Thank you! :)

Thanks a lot... Amazing album :)

Thank you very much for this release. I'm looking forward to listening to this amazing score.

Thank you!

Awesome!

Hmh, can't believe this one slipped by me... :) thanks

It sounds incredible!

Thank you

Big Thanks!

gracias

Thanks a lot for posting this specially mastered version of this beautiful music.

What a lovely, moving score! The K2HD version seems to sound very good indeed. Thanks for sharing.

Bravo,two version.thank you so much.

Classy! Thank you.

Thank you so much, natural rich and deep sound in this special K2HD mastering version!

Thanks for share

They should have at least offered a 24 Bit download at HDTracks or something.

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Here's another reivew about the "K2 HD" process (he separates "K2" and "HD" as different entities).
K2 HD Standard Review | Dagogo | A Unique Audiophile Experience (http://dagogo.com/k2-hd-standard-review)

It seems they keep the master files on hand and just press to disc as needed?
And then some talk about finding a better solution for CD technology.

But, why not just remaster the whole thing for blu-ray music discs?
Put on a blank screen, or a cover poster.

If they pushed for blu-ray music more often, I'm sure people would buy them.
And then upgrade their devices.
And manufacturer's would push for upgrading their devices (cars, vans, trucks, etc).

You can keep the high bit depth and have a sample rate that's both high (higher than CD) and logical (since it makes no audible difference going from CD to DVD/BD).
People won't complain about having 48kHz, which is a perfectly valid sample rate, as most DVD's/BD's are in 48kHz (music tracks being the exception of useless double rate of 96kHz).

Still, it makes you wonder, why don't they just let you download those WAV files with valid purchase of the CD?

Thanks for this, love the soundtrack (even though I've never been able to listened through it in one sitting... just too emotional given the subject material. John Williams really hit the nail with this one. Call me a sissy but as a history teacher, this one goes right through my bones).

I only have one question: which one is (presumably) the best quality of the two? Perhaps not in bitrate or anything, but in mastering? I know a good thing or two about audio but my ears as of yet aren't trained enough to really distinguish these two from each other. What should I listen for? What are, for you, the standout differences between the two? I can hear the difference in mastering from the original OST alright, but not really between these two. So perhaps someone could help me train my ears a bit more.

the best quality of the two?

Since they're both so mastered at high qualities to start with, at this point (CD), it doesn't matter which one you pick.
I grabbed both just to complete the archive and should the day come, I'll really sit down and do a blind ABX test with the two.

If you really want to know, you should grab both and use Foobar2000 (http://anonym.to/?http://www.foobar2000.org/download) to do a blind ABX (http://anonym.to/?http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_abx) test.
If you can't tell the difference, then just keep any one of them at random.

Thanks for sharing!

links are getting slow on initial post. Need other links to assist with load.

Thanks for the share!

Links recieved, thanks.. The sound quality is absolutely astonishing! :D

I've made some custom covers for Schindler's List:

Version 1 - OST
(http://imgur.com/xIqcW5n)
(click on image for full resolution)

Version 1 - Complete
(http://imgur.com/b93xjTl)
(click on image for full resolution)

Version 2 - OST
(http://imgur.com/woIdnhI)
(click on image for full resolution)

Version 2 - Complete
(http://imgur.com/mrZHlzh)
(click on image for full resolution)

thanks for the share.

There are several other OST related titles in this format. Off the top of my head there's...

John Barry - Somewhere In Time
Vangelis - Themes
Vangelis - Antarctica
Yo-Yo Ma Plays Ennio Morricone
Ennio Morricone - Legend of 1900
James Horner - Titanic
The Pianist - OST

I don't have these sadly :-( but if I had to pick one, Vangelis - Themes would be at the top of my list.

Thank you very much, greatly appreciated. And I would go for that one and Somewhere in Time. :D

Thank you very much mr_merrick for sharing this masterpiece.

Thank you again Mr. Merrick for sharing.

Info on mastering process (http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/flair/e/k2hd/k2hd.html)

Tracklist:

01. Theme From Schindler's List (4:15)
02. Jewish Town (Krakow Ghetto - Winter '41) (4:40)
03. Immolation (With Our Lives, We Give Life) (4:44)
04. Remembrances (4:20)
05. Schindler's Workforce (9:08)
06. OYF'N Pripetshok & Nacht Aktion (2:56)
07. I Could Have Done More (5:52)
08. Auschwitz-Birkenau (3:41)
09. Stolen Memories (4:20)
10. Making The List (5:11)
11. Give Me Your Names (4:55)
12. Yeroushalaim Chel Zahav (Jerusalem of Gold) (2:17)
13. Remembrances (5:17)
14. Theme From Schindler's List (Reprise) (2:59)

K2HD Version (https://mega.co.nz/#!CZVDXKRD!bAKkZgAVkqNqxQlzkdFhgiwxevUDy1lYDHaSnNF Ez04)

OR

MCA Ultimate Masterdisc Version (https://mega.co.nz/#!Td0kFQ5B!RVBrOhlocm11_9YhJwDj5wHmKBU4QolscKQUl2p uNkQ)

Wow, thanks in advance.

Thanks :)

Thanks! It does sound amazing.

excellent share ! Many thanks

Thanks! One of engineer Shawn Murphy's best recordings.

Wow!!! Beautiful & Great!!!
Big, big thanks for sharing links, mr_merrick!!! :)

Thank you very much for this! Really appreciated!

I recommend this score in any incarnation. I downloaded the K2HD.

I'm inclined to think much of this stuff is pseudo-science bullshit behind the mastering of the K2HD, but to be fair I don't trust really.. anything the audio industry says or claims. With that out of the way. Loading up 'Remembrances' and 'Theme from Scindler's List' from my 1993 MCAD-10969 and from the K2 in Adobe Audition the only obvious difference is a slight loudness boost of a couple decibels on the K2. I run dynamic range meter 1.1.1 on both and find that my 1993 disc has slightly higher dynamic range than the K2, but I must concede though that the analog master tape has perhaps degraded in those 20 years so it may be mute of a point. So for listening I slapped Replay Gain on both, dropped the preamp by 5 decibels and played my favorite tracks switching back and forth. Surprisingly to me, the K2 does sound a little bit better. I expected the K2 to be inferior, because remasters have a bad habit these days of being much LOUDER and hollow sounding compared to the originals! The K2 has some more space or air around instruments, they do appear to more lifelike. This is probably due to the mastering engineer of the K2 being better than the original Dave Collins, or maybe those glass discs infused with the tears of Christ are the ones to thank. I'm not sure, but I will say this is the best re-master I've heard lately.

Thanks mr_merrick

thaaanks!!!

Incredible! Many thanks for this!

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Thanks for this gem ;)

Many thanks!

Thank you very much.

Thanks Mr Merrick!

Thanks for sharing!

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Thanks!

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Thanks!

Can i have the link please

Many thanks for sharing.

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Thank you very much.

Thank you! :)

Thank you for sharing!

Thank you for sharing!

Thanks!

Any chance for a reup? Thanks.

Yes please - a reup would be so great !!!

curiosity is a strong instinct

Please can you re-up if you get a chance please :)

ReUp 2 Versions please. :)

Reup would be really appreciated

Seconding the request for both versions in FLAC! ;)

So, some listeners (myself included) are a little underwhelmed by the sound mastering of the recent two-disc edition. Mainly the first disc of the OST presentation. Is there any way these editions could be re-shared by someone if it all possible. I had a version previously which sounded incredible and I'm wondering if this was it.

Thanks.

Please Reup this 2 gem thanks

I would love these links too!

Many thanks,
Billy

Could Someone Re-up, please?
Thanks!