ribonucleic
10-07-2013, 12:40 AM
On January 30, 1943, German state radio suspended normal broadcasts. It played the solemn Adagio from Anton Bruckner's Symphony No. 7, performed by the Berlin Philharmonic conducted by Wilhelm Furtw�ngler. This was followed by Hermann G�ring announcing the final defeat of Friedrich Paulus's Sixth Army in the battle of Stalingrad.




In days to come it will be said thus: when you come home to Germany, tell them that you have seen us lying at Stalingrad, as the rule of honour and the conduct of war have ordained that we must do, for Germany�s sake.



The German army had suffered 850,000 killed, missing, or wounded. It would never recover the initiative on the Eastern Front. 27 months later, the Soviets would occupy Berlin - bringing an end to the war in Europe.




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laohu
10-07-2013, 02:03 AM
looks interesting, thanks

max_stein
10-07-2013, 02:36 AM
As a student of history, I thank you

LeSamourai
10-07-2013, 04:45 AM
Thanks!!!

Ordensritter
10-07-2013, 09:34 AM
Thanks, sounds epic. Sorrowful, but epic.

Petros
10-07-2013, 04:41 PM
Thank you very much.

Yen_
02-09-2014, 11:11 PM
Thank you.

Crossbones
02-10-2014, 01:20 AM
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Kaolin
11-24-2014, 07:47 PM
Thanks.

SonicAdventure
11-24-2014, 08:57 PM
On January 30, 1943, German state radio suspended normal broadcasts. It played the solemn Adagio from Anton Bruckner's Symphony No. 7, performed by the Berlin Philharmonic conducted by Wilhelm Furtw�ngler. This was followed by Hermann G�ring announcing the final defeat of Friedrich Paulus's Sixth Army in the battle of Stalingrad.

As typical for a Furtw�ngler recording made during Nazi Germany, it stays far away from the composition Mahler intended. For a more faithful approach I�d suggest Rattle, Tilson Thomas and Abbado. For a slightly pathetic and less bombastic approach I suggest Bernstein's 1966 recording (even though it doesn�t sound well).


The German army had suffered 850,000 killed, missing, or wounded. It would never recover the initiative on the Eastern Front. 27 months later, the Soviets would occupy Berlin - bringing an end to the war in Europe.

Why do I have the feeling that this text purposefully omits some important facts? Not only the Russians were responsible for Germany's defeat, it was the combined power of all the allies. While the Soviets came from the East, the Americans came from the West, all resulting in putting an end to the oppression by German forces.

For a more detailed account, go here: End of World War II in Europe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_World_War_II_in_Europe)

ribonucleic
11-24-2014, 10:16 PM
Why do I have the feeling that this text purposefully omits some important facts? Not only the Russians were responsible for Germany's defeat, it was the combined power of all the allies.

As to why Germany lost the war, it was not my intention to summarize in two sentences what people have written thousands of books about. (I happen to like this one (http://www.amazon.com/Why-Allies-Won-Richard-Overy/dp/039331619X).)

But given that the subject was Stalingrad, I make no apology for focusing on the Soviets. If you like, let it be noted that the Russian advance to Berlin was made on American boots and in American trucks.

SonicAdventure
11-25-2014, 12:51 AM
As to why Germany lost the war, it was not my intention to summarize in two sentences what people have written thousands of books about. (I happen to like this one (http://www.amazon.com/Why-Allies-Won-Richard-Overy/dp/039331619X).)

But given that the subject was Stalingrad, I make no apology for focusing on the Soviets. If you like, let it be noted that the Russian advance to Berlin was made on American boots and in American trucks.

Ok, I didn�t know that you were quoting a book. If would have known that, I wouldn�t have made that comment. I just wanted to point out that the allied forces were a combined effort to end Germany's doomed quest for power.

Darth Sphincter
07-02-2016, 01:02 AM
Another military historian thanks you!