Rapture
08-07-2004, 03:55 PM
Hi, im SephirothBizzaro, you may remember me from such threads as 'FF Game Rumble' or Shriners that are disliked' . There may also be a vague memory in your minds of me supernova-ing Clouds ass in the north pole crater.
Anyhow, after a bit of help form Smokey and Agent0042 :) , i have come up with a general gaming rumble.
It is different becuase although Final Fantasy may be involved in the RPG section, therewill be a lot of other games involved too. The rumble will involve a sort of do-as-i-go-along method so any feedback or questions just PM me, i wont have anything apart from the current round planned.
I am going to start with the Shooters or Shooting related games , and here is the list of them:
1. Timesplitters 2 (PS2)
2. Goldeneye (N64)
3. Metal Gear Solid (PS1)
4. Halo (Xbox)
5. Doom 3 (PS2)
6. Perfect Dark
7. Descent (PS1)
8. Starwing (SNES)
9. Half Life (Xbox)
10. Deus Ex II (PS2)
11. Air Combat (PS1)
12. Red Dead Revolver (PS2)
13. Judge Dredd (SNES)
14. Full Spectrum Warrior (Xbox)
15. Conflict: Desert Storm (PS2)
16. Rainbox Six: Lone Wolf (PS1)
Please note that i am not a hardcore shooter games player so if i have made any mistakes then please PM me and let me know. Also due to where i live differing to where you lot live, there might be some games on the list that you haven't played, if this is the case, then vote for the one who you have heard the most positive feedback about - or PM me and i may change it accordingly.
[BELOW]
ultimaflare
08-07-2004, 04:56 PM
halo, i have not played either i just have friends who are like halo pwns all!!!
hb smokey
08-07-2004, 05:07 PM
<B>Halo</B> is the most enjoyable shooter I have ever played in my life.
NOTE: Let's start this out the right way. People, bold your votes!
Rapture
08-07-2004, 05:09 PM
Yeah! Bold your votes, because you see the eye is good, but if you bold your votes it makes the eye even better to see who you have voted, remember thats bold , (b o l d)
Magus
08-07-2004, 08:11 PM
I didn't enjoy halo and I never played Duex Ex... But I'll go ahead and say halo.
mrmonkeyman
08-07-2004, 08:48 PM
If I had any say in the matter, this topic would be closed.
Originally posted by mrmonkeyman
If I had any say in the matter, this topic would be closed.
Well... you don't...
I do however, and I see no point in this thread. If you want to do something like this, you could make a "What is the best FPS" thread, but that would be rather pointless also, considering it has been done multiple times.
If any other mods have something against me doing this, say so. Otherwise, Closed.
Sarah
08-14-2004, 01:45 PM
this is fine, actually. we don't want too many rumbles, but about one per forum is fine.
... and I think I've played all of like two games on that list. so Doom 3 'cause oldsk00l np 8-).
Originally posted by Loki
Originally posted by mrmonkeyman
If I had any say in the matter, this topic would be closed.
Well... you don't... Well, he does.
mrmonkeyman
08-14-2004, 05:46 PM
Now I know the actual rules, eh, I probably won't. But keep on the straight and narrow people.
Wattson
08-15-2004, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by Sarah
... and I think I've played all of like two games on that list. so Doom 3 'cause oldsk00l np 8-).
Games that came out 11 days ago are so oldsk00l.
Because of the lack of PC games, which is the only format that shooters are good in, I choose not to vote.
and it's Deus Ex II on the PS2; Deus Ex was a PC game.
Seriously, replace Army Men with Perfect Dark.
Rapture
08-15-2004, 09:02 AM
OK, i shall do. As i am not a hardcore Shooter player though, i do not know, what format is it for?
Anyways, becuase of the dodginess at the start, i'll restart it.
Metal Gear Solid (PSone)
vs.
Half Life (XBox)
Remember to bold the vote!
Oh, and if you haven't played the game, vote for the one you've heard the most about.
PD came out for the N64.
Absolutely laughable having Army Men in a Best Shooters thread. Glad you changed it.
Rapture
08-15-2004, 11:20 AM
Well, i dont play 'em much. And your vote...
Dr. Lucien Sanchez
08-15-2004, 03:19 PM
Metal Gear Solid
This thread fucking sucks. Somebody who knows something about video games should try to make one similar (like myself).
Magus
08-16-2004, 05:38 AM
Word. Well I'm gonna just go along with it and say Metal Gear Solid. Meh, how can half life even compair?
Rapture
08-16-2004, 05:18 PM
Loki , what have you against this thread?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. I told everyone on my first post that i wasn't a hardcore shooter player. Doesn't mean to say that i have no gaming knwoledge at all, otherwise i wouldnt've done it in the first place.
And Maguc, if you agree, then i'd presuem you were kissing up to Loki cos he's a mod.
After Shooters, ill do RPG and drivers which i have the knwledge on. And Loki feel free to help me along the way. The the thread would be the way you like it, as well as everyone else.
OK, this thread has had a really sucky start. I may do shooters later on. I'm gonna have to start again, after all:
Originally posted by Loki
This thread fucking sucks.
So, basically i am going to do a list of 8 Driving games, all on different formats.
These are them:
1. Driver (PSone)
2. Moto GP 2
3. GTA: Vice City (PS2)
4. Colin McRae Rally 4.0 (PS2)
5. Gran Turismo 2 (PSone)
6. Project Gotham Racing
7. Crazy Taxi (PS2)
8. Need For Speed Underground (PS2)
Right, i am pretty sure that there isnt any trouble with these, however, please PM me if you wan any more or any swapped.
Just to make things totally clear:
I will start with 8 driving games, and whne i have a winner, do a different catergory of games, for example RPG's, and then get a winner from that section and so on.
When i come to shooters, to make everyone happy, and Loki (hopefully) i may ask everyone to include in their post what competitors they wish to have in it. When i have winners for all catergories, i will battle those out to get the winner. And then what t odo with it, well take it from there.
PLEASE CAN WE GET STARTED ON THIS PROPERLY NOW!?
Catergory 1 - Drivres/Racing Games
Battle 1
Driver (PSone)
vs.
Crazy Taxi (PS2)
Dr. Lucien Sanchez
08-16-2004, 09:29 PM
Driver, easily. Crazy Taxi must the the most repetitive game on earth.
Out of those two... Driver
One thing you might consider trying is instead of coming up with the list on your own, start off by asking what is everybody's favorite game of a genre and make a list using those.
Some things you are definately missing are Project Gotham Racing 2, F-Zero GX, Burnout 3, Grand Turismo 3, MotoGP 2.
Some things that do not belong on the list: GTA 2, The Getaway
Bring back "Best shooters".
Rapture
08-18-2004, 05:08 PM
When it comes to best shooters, i will let Loki do it, he has more knowledge of it than me.
You won't LET Loki do anything, bitch.
You will ask nicely, and he will consider.
Rapture
08-18-2004, 05:27 PM
Well, i figured that you would like to do it as you have the knowledge.
Please consider in your very busy lifestyle to help me in my rumble.
Shiori
08-18-2004, 08:28 PM
this thread could be fun! i vote Driver
whoo~hoo post 300!!
Vivi FF
08-19-2004, 02:38 AM
The only problem I see with this thread, is the lack of "grip" of the thread and maybe the choice selection of the games. I do believe that this is a pretty good idea. If I were you, I'll restart the rumble, pick a genre of games, and have everyone nominate some of their favorites of that genre. Then take the best 8/16/32 and then we have a perfect rumble! That's what I would do.
Crazy Taxi!
Rapture
08-19-2004, 09:10 AM
Well, we can do that.
The problem with doing a General Gaming Rumble is, that there are so many to chose from. Plus, because everyone lives in different places, i do not know which ones people have played. So, i might use your idea, yes.
To start with, i will need 8 ideas for Shooter/Shooting Related Games . Include one idea in your post ASAP, and we'll chose the best of the best and get started ASAP.
Tribes.
Best online FPS ever.
hb smokey
08-19-2004, 09:29 AM
I would like to nominate Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and Timesplitters 2 for now.
Rapture
08-19-2004, 09:30 AM
Keep 'em coming everyone
Bahamut ZERO
08-19-2004, 09:55 AM
You're going to need more than 8 FPSs. Quite simply, there are too many of them available for it to be limited to just 8. 32 would be a much better number, and even then it's still too damn limited.
Example: Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Black Hawk Down, Halo. There's five straight away and I'm just brushing the surface.
Half-life, Unreal Tournament, Quake3:Arena
I don't know if you like to include sequels like: UT2 Q3TeamArena etc.
What about: Kingpin and Soldier of Fortune?
And maybe some classics?
Doom, Duke Nukem3D, or even go way back to Wolfenstein??
These are all the shooting games i enyojed playing.
Also the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series.
Red Faction was kinda cool. And Deus Ex...
Rapture
08-19-2004, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Bahamut ZERO
You're going to need more than 8 FPSs. Quite simply, there are too many of them available for it to be limited to just 8. 32 would be a much better number, and even then it's still too damn limited.
Example: Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Black Hawk Down, Halo. There's five straight away and I'm just brushing the surface.
32 then.
I will leave it a couple of days, and then we shall decide on 32 to use and we shall start.
Originally posted by Prak
Also the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series.
Red Faction was kinda cool. And Deus Ex...
oh yes DEus EX too!!!
i forgot about this game, because i don't think of it as: "only shooting"
Rapture
08-19-2004, 10:18 AM
Shooting related, so it counts.
Oh yeah! I almost forgot!
DUCK HUNT!!!
Rapture
08-19-2004, 01:00 PM
Up to now, i have:
Daikatana
Duck Hunt
Red Faction
Deus Ex
Half Life
Unreal Tournament
Doom
Duke Nukem 3D
Wolfenstein
Tribes
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Kingpin
Soldier of Fortune
Which totals 14, keep them coming and let me know of any objections on this list.
Thanks.
Zikan
08-19-2004, 02:00 PM
Dude! you rock man!! A toast to you and may you have good fortune and a prosperous life as well!!! I'm suscribing to this thread and may luck shine on your side that loki does nothign to this thread
okay, for me, some shooters
Truok 2
south park
Blood 2
Requiem
Alien versus predator
Shogun: mobile armor division
Thief
Delta force
splinter cell
messiah
MDK 2
soldier of fortune
Heavy metal: FAKK 2
KISS psycho circus: nightmare child
America's army
No one lives forever
some questionable shooters:
Army men: sarge heroes?
Star trek insurrection?
Star trek voyager-elite force?
Die hard Trilogy?
Nocturne
MAx payne?
Full spectrum warrior?
Keep in mind i do not know much about this games. Those questionable shooters are like what the category says, questionable. But I thought that you might need some help thinking of the names up. I'll like to help to keep this thread going, cause it has a lot of promise.
A toast to this thread and long may it live!:-D
Please NO!!!!
NOT Army men!!!
America's Army and Max Payne are good games by the way...
Zikan
08-19-2004, 02:07 PM
oops sorry abt that...... haha, i thought that might count.
But those on the list are definitely FPS, that much i know, so there would be 32. now the only problem would be wether ppl knows those games only.
Battlefield 1942
Call of Duty
Max Payne 2
These should definately be on the list, along with a lot of the above mentioned.
Rapture
08-19-2004, 04:42 PM
A few more and we should be done.
pedo mc tax me softly, black person (whom i love)
08-19-2004, 05:33 PM
Alien VS. Predator 2
Beachhead (!!)
Rapture
08-19-2004, 05:54 PM
Up to now, i have:
Daikatana
Duck Hunt
Red Faction
Deus Ex
Half Life
Unreal Tournament
Doom
Duke Nukem 3D
Wolfenstein
Tribes
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Kingpin
Soldier of Fortune
Alien vs. Predator 2
Battlefield 1942
Call of Duty
Max Payne 2
Turok 2
Metal Gear Solid
America's Army
Delta Force
Full Spectrum Warrior
MDK 2
Splinter Cell
Medal of Honour 2
Time Crisis
Which totals 27, keep them coming and let me know of any objections on this list.
Thanks.
Originally posted by SephirothBizzaro
Up to now, i have:
Daikatana
Duck Hunt
Red Faction
Deus Ex
Half Life
Unreal Tournament
Doom
Duke Nukem 3D
Wolfenstein
Tribes
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Kingpin
Soldier of Fortune
Alien vs. Predator 2
Battlefield 1942
Call of Duty
Max Payne 2
Turok 2
Metal Gear Solid
America's Army
Delta Force
Full Spectrum Warrior
MDK 2
Splinter Cell
Medal of Honour 2
Time Crisis
Personally, I would shorten the list to like 16 instead of 32...
Halo
Deus Ex
Half-life
Return to Castle Wolfenstien
Tribes
Goldeneye
Soldier of Fortune
AVP 2
Battlefield 1942
Call of Duty
Max Payne
Metal Gear Solid
Splinter Cell
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault
Time Crisis
Doom 3
However I sort of disagree with putting things like Splinter Cell and Metal Gear Solid in the same category as Half-life and other FPS's... they are a totally different genre.
Bahamut ZERO
08-19-2004, 06:00 PM
You are still missing Quake 3 in spite of my hint in my first post.
Return to Castle Wolfenstein is different to Wolfenstein.
Rapture
08-19-2004, 06:02 PM
Halo
Deus Ex
Half-life
Return to Castle Wolfenstien
Tribes
Goldeneye
Soldier of Fortune
AVP 2
Battlefield 1942
Call of Duty
Max Payne
Timesplitters 2
Quake 3
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault
Time Crisis
Doom 3
Does this float everyones boat?
Originally posted by SephirothBizzaro
Does this float everyones boat?
Looks fine to me.
Rapture
08-19-2004, 06:17 PM
Yeah, well im going out for a drink ant time, so what the hell, i will just get this started.
Rules (You prob. already know these)
1. No double-voting or above
2. Try not to engage in too deep conversation.
3. Try to remember to bold the vote.
4. I am picking two that battle at RANDOM, so if they don't compare, don't put it i your post, it is RANDOMLY SELECTED.
5. As from NOW, try to remember to PM me if there is any trouble, with the list or anything else, although i do not think that there will be.
6. Each battle should last around 4 days, if it is above, there WILL be a reason for it so please be patient.
Hopfully, we can get started properly now everyones happy. ;)
By the Way...
I have decided that this is the way i am going to select every catergory for the rumble, i will advertise it in my signiture so keep a look out for it! Also, instead of making new posts every time i get an update, i am gong to repeatedly edit this post every time a battle ends. At the end of a round, i wil make a new post containing the remaining competitors though.
Italic means that a competitor is through to the next round.
Bold shows the cpmpetitors still in the round
Normal test shows games that have been knocked out.
Here are the competitors:
Halo
Deus Ex
Half-life
Return to Castle Wolfenstien
Tribes
Goldeneye
Soldier of Fortune
AVP 2
Battlefield 1942
Call of Duty
Max Payne
Timesplitters 2
Quake 3
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault
Time Crisis
Doom 3
Battle One
Time Crisis
vs.
Goldeneye
Goldeneye
The game that really brought First-Person Shooters to consoles.
Bahamut ZERO
08-19-2004, 07:00 PM
Goldeneye. One of the main reasons one should go out and get the N64. Time Crisis did not make as big an impact in the genre as Goldeneye.
Dr. Lucien Sanchez
08-19-2004, 07:37 PM
Goldeneye
I think for the shear fun of it (fun, I mean because its so shit) we should have the South Park game in there.
Hogan
08-19-2004, 09:02 PM
Time Crisis The King of Shooters
Goldeneye was one of the main reasons to buy a N64!
Have i played that some times with my friends after we got back from a pub.
Zikan
08-20-2004, 05:14 AM
Time crisis
The one game that made the gemre look good. I don't know abt goldeneye, but it did not leave with me a great impression....... Action affciandos should go for time crisis.
Hey people,sup ? i would have to chose NFSU as the gameplay is fast and smooth and the grahics are amazing.See Ya Lata.
Most definitely Goldeneye.
Where's Daikatana gone? That game should blatantly be in the top 16.
hb smokey
08-20-2004, 09:57 AM
Of course <B>Goldeneye</B>! It's the best Bond game, easily. It was <I>the</I> reason to purchase a N64, until OoT came out. Goldeneye set the standards for all First-Person Shooters to come.
Rapture
08-21-2004, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by Rap
Hey people,sup ? i would have to chose NFSU as the gameplay is fast and smooth and the grahics are amazing.See Ya Lata.
Originally posted by SephirothBizzaro
2. Try not to engage in too deep conversation. ..
*ADDITION*
...and if you must make a shallow conversation, at least make it MAKE SENSE.
Rapture
08-22-2004, 04:50 PM
Ok, faily good first round, but stopped it a day early due to slightly stale voting.
Time Crisis - 2
Goldeneye - 7
So. Bond's N64 classic had the upper hand in this walkover.
Battle 2
Timespltters 2
vs.
Deus Ex
hb smokey
08-22-2004, 06:05 PM
Oh come on, this is no contest. Timesplitters 2 is much better than the original, and I think it is underrated too. Yeah, the graphics may be weird, but the gameplay is still outstanding!
<B>Timesplitters 2</B> without a doubt.
Deus Ex
The epitomy of a thinking man's FPS.
Hogan
08-22-2004, 10:51 PM
Deus Ex
Deus Ex just played it again for a couple of hours, and i remembered why it was so great!!!
Rapture
08-23-2004, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Smokey
<B>Timesplitters 2</B> without a doubt.
Looks like some people are disagreeing with you here Smokey.
Bahamut ZERO
08-23-2004, 05:15 PM
Seeing as the only one of these I've played is Deus Ex, I suppose my vote has to go for that. The game is cool, with a neat atmosphere and plot alongside very intriguing gameplay.
Deus Ex.
pedo mc tax me softly, black person (whom i love)
08-24-2004, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Loki
Deus Ex
The epitomy of a thinking man's FPS.
Indeed.
Didn't care too much for any of the different endings, but the gameplay meantime was all kinds of awesome--if a bit cumbersome on the controls.
mrmonkeyman
08-24-2004, 02:59 AM
Deus Ex.
If you think otherwise, you are wrong.
Zikan
08-24-2004, 04:46 AM
Deus Ex
Definitely, ranks among the tops of thinking man action games
Rapture
08-25-2004, 03:37 PM
Ok, that shall make it:
Timesplitters 2 - 1
Deus Ex - 8
Yet another walkover, this time at the mercy of Deus Ex.
Battle 3
Doom 3
vs.
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
I don't believe I can make a well informed decision between these two, because I have never gotten the opportunity to play Doom 3. However, judging from what I have heard about it, my vote goes to Return to Castle Wolfenstein because it is an overall good FPS, and they had the scrotal fortitude to release a free version of the multiplayer, which was great.
Rapture
08-25-2004, 04:10 PM
I am kinda hoping that it will be a closer contest than the previous battles. ;)
Bahamut ZERO
08-25-2004, 04:15 PM
Return to Castle Wolfenstein was great. I remember when we had a LAN party with about 12 people all playing the game and playing capture the flag. Lots of fun, especially when randomly shouting messages at each other.
The Doom games overall were good, but Doom 3 makes my PC spec cry, so I haven't bought it yet.
Hogan
08-25-2004, 04:19 PM
Doom 3 is designed to run well on almost any system and amazingly on amazing systems. I have not played the singleplay of Return to Castle Wolfenstien, but I own and have played Doom 3 and it is simply amazing. My vote goes for Doom 3
hb smokey
08-26-2004, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by SephirothBizzaro
I am kinda hoping that it will be a closer contest than the previous battles. ;)
Give it some time. There will be close battles, and then there will be blow-outs. It is bound to happen.
With that said, <B>Doom 3</B>.
Zikan
08-26-2004, 01:15 PM
Oooh..... This is a nasty one...... Return to castle wolfenstein versus Doom 3....... Both with the same roots...... Both with the same purpose, to entertain the fans......... Doom 3 has better graphics, but i think that the storyline behind Castle Wolfenstein is better then Doom 3....... however, Mosters design goes to Doom 3 and the weapon design also goes to Doom 3
(Chainsaw!!!)
With that..... Doom 3 gets my vote
fantasy_fan(josh)
08-26-2004, 02:11 PM
doom 3 :D
though one....
but i'll vote Doom 3
Rapture
08-28-2004, 02:55 PM
That was slightly closer, Lovely!
Doom 3 - 6
Return to castle wolfenstein - 2
Battle 4
Half-Life
vs.
Medal of Honor - Allied assault
Hogan
08-28-2004, 03:23 PM
Half-Life
Zikan
08-28-2004, 03:48 PM
I'm starting to like this rumble..... NIce choices but maybe can we leave those tough choices to the back of the rumble. That way the rumble won't lose steam half way
my vote goes to medal of honor because half life sucks on the PS compared to the Pc. Mutiplayer was horrible.
Originally posted by Zikan
my vote goes to medal of honor because half life sucks on the PS compared to the Pc. Mutiplayer was horrible.
That's a super-dumb reason to vote for it.
Halflife is teh win because it does an excellent job of throwing you into an environment that you can interact with, and was pretty much the first FPS with story, and that allowed you to do a bit more than just run and shoot (Doom, Wolfenstein)
Zikan
08-28-2004, 04:30 PM
i don't know wether we are voting for the game on the PC or on the game consoles.... Because from the first round, both games seem to be inclined towards the console side. So i was basing my judgment on the console platform.
Well considering the original Return to Castle Wolfenstein, and Dues Ex were never released on any consoles. It seems like you should go by whichever version of the game is better. You wouldn't say the Splinter Cell game sucks because it's not quite as good on Gamecube and PS2 as it is on PC and Xbox.
hb smokey
08-28-2004, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by Zikan
I'm starting to like this rumble..... NIce choices but maybe can we leave those tough choices to the back of the rumble. That way the rumble won't lose steam half way.
Well, it's tough to do that, since the battles are randomly chosen.
My vote is for <B>Half-Life</B> as well.
Zikan
08-29-2004, 05:44 AM
point taken Loki. I'll keep that in mind when I vote next time.
Rapture
08-29-2004, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Zikan
I'm starting to like this rumble..... NIce choices but maybe can we leave those tough choices to the back of the rumble. That way the rumble won't lose steam half way
Plus, the better ones will meet in future rounds.
Half-Life
Very interesting game, One of the few shooters i actually played through the single player story and liked it.
Rapture
08-30-2004, 04:27 PM
Ending this one early, mainly becuase i can't really see this one going much further for some reason...
Anyhow, lets get back to it, the voted for that battle went:
Half-Life - 5
MoH:AA - 2
And...
Battle 5
Call of Duty
vs.
Tribes
Can i maybe remind everyone that if you haven't heard of any of the games, vote for the one which you have heard the best feedback from ;)
Hogan
08-30-2004, 05:13 PM
Call of Duty is one of my favorite games of all time. It has amazing single and multi play. Call of Duty will always get my vote.
Call of Duty because with it's amazingly emersive environments and sound, it is the most intense FPS game available.
Can i maybe remind everyone that if you haven't heard of any of the games, don't vote because you're opinion is wrong.
hb smokey
08-30-2004, 06:02 PM
I think <B>Call of Duty</B> is underrated, even though it is still a great game.
I'd say in terms of quality, the two are dead even, but Tribes was more innovative. Especially its awesome jetpack physics. Aerial dueling kicks ass.
Rapture
08-31-2004, 12:10 PM
A quick look at the standings:
Italic means that a competitor is through to the next round.
Bold shows the competitors still in the round
Normal un-styled font shows games that have been knocked out.
Here are the competitors:
Halo
Deus Ex
Half-life
Return to Castle Wolfenstien
Tribes
Goldeneye
Soldier of Fortune
AVP 2
Battlefield 1942
Call of Duty
Max Payne
Timesplitters 2
Quake 3
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault
Time Crisis
Doom 3
Zikan
08-31-2004, 03:39 PM
here is another tough one....... Tribes? or CoD? Tribes is nice multiplayer action but CoD has the advantage of a good historical background. Both are good shooters.........
My vote goes to Tribes, fantastic multiplayer connection with innovative jetpack duelling. Add to the fact that you have call down abiltities and the fact that you can heal while trying to defend your base makes for some furious combat action.
Rapture
09-01-2004, 12:05 PM
New Rule Thing - Battles will last between 24 hours and 4 days. My daily list of stuff to do is way to unpredictable man!
That's
Call of Duty - 5
Tribes - 2
Battle 6
Soldier of Fortune
vs.
AVP 2
Now VOTE!
Soldier of Fortune
Im a bit biased on this one because it is pretty much what introduced me to online multiplayer FPS. I was never too keen on Counterstrike or Quake, so this was it for me, and I loved it. Most of it is just running and shooting, non-stop action type of thing, but it's insanely fun.
Hogan
09-01-2004, 02:39 PM
AVP2 being able to be Human alien or preadator was just fun.
Zikan
09-01-2004, 03:02 PM
gore versus gore, blood versus blood...... this is going to be tough. It always seems tough doesn't it?
AVp2 is the one because what other game lets you control an invisible character who can go around and skin ppl? blow heads off? both do that, but you can bite heads off in Avp, nice weights to weapons and you do not need the infrared view on the IOCW when you have the predator view lens.....lolz
Soldier of Fortune, but i have to admit i only played AVP one or two times.... not more.
hb smokey
09-01-2004, 07:33 PM
I have played both games. But alas, I will have to go with <B>Soldier of Fortune</B>. When I play through this game, I just get a bigger thrill than the other one.
mrmonkeyman
09-01-2004, 11:43 PM
AVP2, because it had a lot more affective and original ideas, and a better graphical engine and design team than SoF2's greys :(
Rapture
09-04-2004, 08:25 PM
That's
Soldier of Fortune - 4
AVP 2 - 3
(In a tie, becuase i will have to PM Agent0042 or Smokey to find out how to deal with them, i am just going to say the one which was better in my opinion, just this once)
I will go for SOLDIER OF FORTUNE
Battle 7
Quake 3
vs.
Battlefield 1942
hb smokey
09-04-2004, 09:15 PM
<B>Quake 3</B>, no doubt.
Draven
09-04-2004, 11:32 PM
Quake 3!!!!! easy
Battlefield 1942
Never much cared for Quake 3. Quake 2 was better. Also, BF1942 had a much more in depth Multiplayer, and is much more fun that Quake.
Zikan
09-05-2004, 02:16 AM
Definitely Battlefield 1942. Quake 3 kinda suck after i played UT2004. The graphics were lacking, the weapons were just standard shooter weapons...... most importantly, it lacked vehicles!! That is the one distinguishing feature between BF1942 and Quake 3. The choice is clear, Battle field 1942 is the way to go!
quake 3 played it a lot!!!!
Rapture
09-06-2004, 09:25 AM
That is
Quake 3 - 4
Battlefield 1942 - 2
And the last battle in this round is:
Battle 8
Max Payne
vs.
Halo
I didn't like either one, but I guess Halo was the better game.
hb smokey
09-06-2004, 09:40 AM
While I admit I wasn't a big fan of the 1-player mode for <B>Halo</B>, I have to concede that nothing is more enjoyable than sticking your friends with Plasma Grenades in multi-player.
Max Payne was a fairly good game, if a bit repetitive. I vote for it because of how great Max Payne 2 was.
Halo was just kind of bland.
Raidenex
09-07-2004, 12:19 AM
Max Payne is a brilliant, brilliant game. The story draws you in, and screws with your head - perfect film noir in a computer game.
Halo gets my vote though. Why? Because I only played through Max Payne a couple of times. I only played through Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne once. Meanwhile, Halo crops up again and again - if you're short of something to do, Halo is the best multiplayer experience you can have. There hasn't been a console shooter experience like it since GoldenEye 007 for the N64. The brilliantly designed maps, the intuitive control and the many game options, especially combined with the great sci-fi single player storyline, make it a contender for one of the best games of all time.
Draven
09-07-2004, 02:48 PM
Halo!
Zikan
09-07-2004, 04:26 PM
Halo is too brightly coloured, but the action is fast and furious...... max payne is too dark, action is so cool...... played only Halo but max payne got good reviews.........
Halo wins this only because of the graphics...... Max payne is just slightly behind it in that area and it just loses by that small bit......
Originally posted by Zikan
Max payne is just slightly behind it in that area and it just loses by that small bit......
Haha bullshit. Have you even seen the physics in Max payne 2? The visuals are so much more amazing than Halo.
mrmonkeyman
09-07-2004, 06:52 PM
Max Payne.
Halo is overhyped unstylish bullshit in all modes.
Rapture
09-08-2004, 10:27 AM
Halo - 6
Max Payne - 2
Into the next round.
Here are the competitors:
Half-life
Goldeneye
Call of Duty
Doom 3
Round 2
Battle 9
Goldeneye
vs
Deus Ex
Deus Ex was fun, but I only played it for a tiny fraction of the time I spent playing Goldeneye.
hb smokey
09-08-2004, 06:24 PM
Yes, very few shooter games, if any, have reach the pinnacle that <B>Goldeneye</B> did.
blackeyedpeas
09-08-2004, 07:37 PM
goldeneye
Raidenex
09-08-2004, 11:52 PM
GoldenEye rocks, no questions asked.
Hogan
09-09-2004, 05:43 AM
Goldeneye
Zikan
09-09-2004, 10:57 AM
i shall ost against the trend and hope that somebody agrees with me...... Deus Ex Rocks!!! Long may Deus Ex live!!! May it never die out!!!
damn i wanted to vote max payne (not that it would have made a difference) but i had no electricity.
But now my vote goes to Deus Ex
Rapture
09-09-2004, 01:52 PM
Well, thats
Goldeneye - 5
Deus Ex - 2
Battle 10
Soldier of Fortune
vs.
Doom 3
hb smokey
09-09-2004, 01:54 PM
<B>Soldier of Fortune</B>.
mrmonkeyman
09-09-2004, 02:26 PM
Doom 3.
Technically and atmospherically a better game.
Zikan
09-09-2004, 02:56 PM
Doom 3 gets the vote. That is one game that is really a labour of love.... in terms of gore level and atmosphere, thrashes the competition
Soldier of Fortune
Just Plain Funner.
Raidenex
09-09-2004, 11:38 PM
Doom 3.
Because it raped my video card so much I bought a Radeon =D
Hogan
09-10-2004, 02:48 AM
Doom 3
I'm not a very big Doom 3 fan ---> so vote goes to soldier of fortune
KREAYSHAWN
09-11-2004, 04:57 PM
Doom 3 imo
Rapture
09-12-2004, 04:59 PM
Thats
Doom 3 - 5
Soldier of Fortune - 3
So, Doom gets the upper hand this time.
Battle 11
Halo
vs.
Half-Life
Half-life
Better, more interactive environments. Better story and characterizations. More intense. Better control.
hb smokey
09-12-2004, 05:36 PM
I still had more fun with <B>Halo</B>.
NOTE: SephirothBizzaro, I couldn't tell you this, because you can't receive PM's. But, if you need me to do that anytime, because of your internet problems, just tell me.
Rapture
09-12-2004, 05:40 PM
Yeah, i changed my emal, and i had to verify it.
Raidenex
09-13-2004, 02:16 AM
Oh the humanity...
How can I choose between the two greatest First Person Shooters ever created?
Halo, as I stated before, is a masterpiece of incredible design - the gameplay is perfectly balanced, the control is brilliant for the Xbox, and multiplayer is an incredible experience...
But Half-Life, on the other hand, is also an incredible game that still stands out today - nearly 5 years later. Not only was the single-player amazing, but multiplayer mods like Team Fortress Classic kept us enthralled in the early days, and then came that wonderous game called Counter-Strike. Not to mention the hundreds of excellent multiplayer mods available like Day of Defeat and Natural Selection.
If it was just a single-player game contest, then Halo would take my vote - but Half-Life is the gift that just keeps giving.
Hogan
09-13-2004, 05:40 AM
Half-life only because I have spent much more time on it and it's mods.
Half-life. All Halo has going for it is the fact that it's newer.
haryuu no
09-13-2004, 11:03 AM
half-life!
Half-Life
Although Halo is very good too, Half-life is just GREAT!!
Rapture
09-13-2004, 02:43 PM
Bit of an early finish, but i think all of the 'regulars' have posted.
Halo - 1
Half-Life - 5
Battle 12
Call of Duty
vs.
Quake 3
Call of Duty
Great atmosphere, great sound effects, and it integrates you into a team. The AI is incredible, and the visuals are also superb.
mrmonkeyman
09-13-2004, 06:05 PM
Call of Duty, because it's just more absorbing and atmospheric than Q3A.
Q3A was a...eh. It was dissapointing.
hb smokey
09-13-2004, 09:46 PM
<B>Call of Duty</B> was so much more addicting to me. It was hard to put the controller down while I was playing it.
Venom
09-13-2004, 10:52 PM
call of duty
Hogan
09-15-2004, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by Hogan
Call of Duty is one of my favorite games of all time. It has amazing single and multi play. Call of Duty will always get my vote.
Rapture
09-15-2004, 09:38 AM
Call of Duty - 5
Quake 3 - 0
So Call of Duty thrashes Quakes' 3rd instalment. So Quake 3 has to say bye.
Were into the semi-finals now.
Semi Final 1
Battle 14
Half-Life
vs
Doom 3
Note: The next catergory is RPG's I think, so you should start thinking about who you want in. PM me if you want to ask anything.
hb smokey
09-15-2004, 09:58 AM
<B>Half-Life</B>, definately.
Also, I nominate Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana for starters.
Half-Life because everything about it was cutting edge, while Doom 3 has cutting edge graphics, but plays just like Half-Life.
KREAYSHAWN
09-15-2004, 10:51 AM
Half Life.
Half-life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raidenex
09-15-2004, 11:49 PM
Half-Life. Pretty graphics do an atmospheric game make, but not a classic one.
mrmonkeyman
09-16-2004, 01:17 AM
Halflife, but not because it's a better game, but because of what it did for the mod community.
HL and Total Annihilation made mods cool.
Zikan
09-17-2004, 11:00 AM
Half life gets the vote.
mrmonkeyman are you a modder by the way? YOu seem to know a lot about mods..... Just asking because I saw you post, no offence though
Hogan
09-18-2004, 09:41 PM
I loved Half-Life but seeing as how we can't have Doom 3 getting shut out I will vote for ID's creation.
May I also suggest doing something besides RPGs next. They have their own forum for one thing and I personally would perfer an RTS or just General Startegy rumble.
Mickrulz
09-19-2004, 01:22 AM
Half-Life
Rapture
09-19-2004, 04:06 PM
Half-Life - 9
Doom 3 - 1
So the most votes so far goes in Half-Life favour.
Semi-Final 2
Battle 15
Goldeneye
vs.
Call of Duty
Zikan
09-19-2004, 04:11 PM
HA! I have been waiting for a chnace to shoot down Goldeneye!!!
My vote goes to Call of Duty because it is a better game then Goldeneye!!! Down with Goldeneye!!
KREAYSHAWN
09-19-2004, 04:25 PM
Goldeneye.
hb smokey
09-19-2004, 06:03 PM
I told myself at the beginning of this Rumble that I would always vote for <B>Goldeneye</B>.
And just barely, it still gets my vote.
Hogan
09-19-2004, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Hogan
Call of Duty is one of my favorite games of all time. It has amazing single and multi play. Call of Duty will always get my vote. I just bought the expansion yesterday as well. I kind of have mixed feelings about it so far in the multiplayer but the singleplayer is even better than before.
Venom
09-19-2004, 07:40 PM
Goldeneye
Mickrulz
09-20-2004, 12:42 AM
Call of duty
mrmonkeyman
09-20-2004, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by Hogan
I just bought the expansion yesterday as well. I kind of have mixed feelings about it so far in the multiplayer but the singleplayer is even better than before. Get to the british campaign.
Trust me.
Anywho, yeah, Goldeneye.
Raidenex
09-20-2004, 04:25 AM
GoldenEye, i've found your weakness...
Rapture
09-20-2004, 02:47 PM
Woah! An outburst of voting. The reason for ending this one much earlier.
Call of Duty - 2
Goldeneye - 10
Another thrashing, at the hands of Goldeneye.
This sadly brings us to the finale of the Shooting Games part of the rumble.
The Final
Battle 16
Goldeneye
(The reason to go out and buy an N64 as quoted by Smokey, and a fine FPS at that).
vs.
Half-Life (Very original FPS with lots to do and see, not to mention pretty pleasing graphics.)
(The next catergory is RPG's, so please nominate who you want in within your post. Altenatively you can PM me if you can be assed.)
RottenMilkman
09-20-2004, 02:58 PM
I had much more fun with Goldeneye than I did with Half-life.
RPGs: Morrowind, Baldur's Gate, Wizardry 6 (Which is, I think the best of the series), Xenogears, Final Fantasy 7
KREAYSHAWN
09-20-2004, 03:14 PM
Hmm...
Goldeneye.
Also, I would like to see Grandia and Suikoden (I suppose their respective sequels need not be included...? Depends on if you're doing it by series or by each incarnation. Well. I don't know)
hb smokey
09-20-2004, 03:59 PM
Wow, this is some final we have here. But, I still have to go for the Bond classic, <B>Goldeneye</B>.
I would like to take this opportunity to nomintate:
Chrono Trigger
Secret of Mana
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Hogan
09-20-2004, 10:24 PM
Half-Life is a better game.
Venom
09-20-2004, 11:03 PM
Goldeneye
Mickrulz
09-20-2004, 11:06 PM
goldeneye
Raidenex
09-21-2004, 01:13 AM
Half-Life has to be the best.
And i'd like to take this oppurtunity to nominate Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and Final Fantasy X, the two greatest RPGs of all time :D
Oh, and I think MMORPGs should be a separate category, otherise Final Fantasy XI would rule over all.
Masakari
09-21-2004, 01:15 AM
Gee, lemme think on that one...
Judging by my avatar and sig I would say Half Life.
Rapture
09-21-2004, 10:27 AM
Well have to see about MMORPG's, if there is enough, and everyone agrees that ahould be fine!
Venom
09-21-2004, 02:25 PM
I say go ahead with the MMORPG
RottenMilkman
09-21-2004, 02:36 PM
MMORPGs should NOT be a different category, because there just isn't enough good ones.
I dunno about that. There have been plenty of at least decent ones. Off the top of my head, there's:
Ultima Online
Everquest
Asheron's Call
Asheron's Call 2
Dark Age of Camelot
Horizons
City of Heroes
Star Wars Galaxies
Final Fantasy XI
A Tale in the Desert
The list goes on. Surely there's enough to get a decent roster together.
RottenMilkman
09-21-2004, 02:41 PM
The only ones out of those that would even have a chance of winning though are FFXI and DAOC
You must not have played Ultima Online, Everquest, Star Wars Galaxies, or City of Heroes. Those games have massive followings also.
I'd seriously be surprised if DAoC even had a chance against those. And I think some would give FFXI a good run.
RottenMilkman
09-21-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Prak
You must not have played Ultima Online, Everquest, Star Wars Galaxies, or City of Heroes. Those games have massive followings also.
Not in a mostly FF messageboard. There's no way anything would have a chance against FFXI here... even though FFXI wasn't any good.
I think it could work anyway, even though FFXI would have an unfair advantage.
Zikan
09-22-2004, 01:08 PM
Half life!!!!! never mess with one of the best in the Fps genre!!!Golden eye will never compare to Half life !!!!!
On The thoughts of Rpgs, I think that we should include in Lineage, Ragnarok........ Maybe even 'Progress quest' for those who have played it.....;-D
search up on progress quest and you would know why. haha:-D
Rapture
09-23-2004, 11:32 AM
That's
Half-Life - 6
Goldeneye - 5
HALF-LIFE wins the Shooting section.
This means that we are at the end of this section.
Keep posting RPG ideas and i'll round them up within the next 1-3 days hpopefully so we can get started.
The after that we'll decide on MMORPG's.
hb smokey
09-23-2004, 08:37 PM
What's this, no victory picture for Half-Life?
Also, I nominate Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars.
include Bioware RPG's?
(like: Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter nights, Icewind Dale etc)
Raidenex
09-23-2004, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Sjel
include Bioware RPG's?
(like: Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter nights, Icewind Dale etc)
Um... if you had bothered reading the previous posts, BG and NWN have already been nominated - and ID is BG by a different name <.<
And I was going to vote for Goldeneye too :(
I'd suggest that if you did have an RPG rumble, wouldn't it make sense to have it in the RPG forum just below GG, and have a seperate, more fresh one here?
Oh yeah, and Dark Cloud 2/Chronicle, if it's eligible for the RPG battle.
Rapture
09-24-2004, 11:36 AM
Could do that...
But is there really any point in starting a new rumble just to battle 16 RPG's?
We'd have to do something else with it too.
Rapture
09-25-2004, 08:06 PM
Well, the RPG's we have so far are:
Morrowind
Baldur's Gate
Wizardry (6)
Xenogears
Tales of Symphonia
Grandia
Suikoden
Chrono Trigger
Secret of Mana
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Wars: KoToR
Final Fantasy X
Ragnarok
Progress Quest
Skies of Aarcadia Legends
Dark Cloud 2
(I'd like to nominate)
Shenmue
TLoZ: Ocarina of Time
So, if we are going to have 16, we are going to need a few more... And thats excluding the fact that there might be some objections to this list.
If anyone does not agree to any games in this list, please say, and put forward some more RPG's that you maybe think will do well.
Venom
09-25-2004, 08:09 PM
I would like to nominate Final Fantasy VI
hb smokey
09-25-2004, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Rapture
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy X
So, if we are going to have 16, we are going to need a few more... And thats excluding the fact that there might be some objections to this list.
If anyone does not agree to any games in this list, please say, and put forward some more RPG's that you maybe think will do well.
I don't think we need any Final Fantasy games in there, since that is what the other Rumbles are for. Let's have a Rumble where there is nothing Final Fantasy related for once. :)
I also want to nominate Skies of Arcadia Legends, and Tales of Symphonia.
Rapture
09-25-2004, 08:30 PM
Yeah. That's True.
FFVII, FFX DELETED.
RottenMilkman
09-25-2004, 08:46 PM
What? FF is a RPG? Why would you eliminate a good RPG from the list just because we do it in other forums. That's not really very fair.
Also: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is not an RPG, it's action adventure.
Rapture
09-25-2004, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Milkman
What? FF is a RPG? Why would you eliminate a good RPG from the list just because we do it in other forums. That's not really very fair.
Also: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is not an RPG, it's action adventure.
Fine. TLoZ: A Link to the Past.
This whole site is dedicated to FF. I think it would be nice to get away from it here. Unless, more people disagree with this, that is...
Hogan
09-25-2004, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by Rapture
Fine. TLoZ: A Link to the Past.
A Link to the Past is an action game as well. I would recomend making the FF series into one comtenstant on it's own same with all other series.
Planescape: Torment absolutely must be on this list.
EDIT: Maybe instead of doing a MMORPG rumble next it could just be sub RPGs you could include Action RPGs and Startegy RPGs as well.
RottenMilkman
09-26-2004, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by Hogan
A Link to the Past is an action game as well. I would recomend making the FF series into one comtenstant on it's own same with all other series.
Planescape: Torment absolutely must be on this list.
Agreed.
KREAYSHAWN
09-26-2004, 12:54 PM
I really enjoyed Lufia 2, until my save got destroyed. =/ And doing it by series sounds good.
Also, if we'll include strategy (TBS?): Vandal Hearts, Disgaea, and Shining Force.
If TLOZ is an entrant, why not Kingdom Hearts? I don't like it, but it could be filler.
FF would have kind of a huge bias for it, you know, that might ruin the whole thing, I mean, what's the point in voting if one entry is sure to win? =/
RottenMilkman
09-26-2004, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by ud�
FF would have kind of a huge bias for it, you know, that might ruin the whole thing, I mean, what's the point in voting if one entry is sure to win? =/
I can almost guarantee that FF would NOT win. We have a pretty diverse group of gamers here surprisingly, and the one that I forsee winning more than anything else would be Chrono Trigger.
Raidenex
09-27-2004, 01:15 AM
If we're going to have an RPG rumble, we need to define RPG - and since it's 'role-playing game', then if you take it at that, EVERY game out is a RPG - you're all playing the role of someone or something else.
Personally, I think the RPG category is defined by improvement - if you get EXP, or your character gets better as the game progresses, it's an RPG. As much as I dislike Ocarina, it doesn't really fit anywhere else - getting better weapons and getting more hearts just fits is into the RPG category.
That said, i'd like to see Vagrant Story, Ocarina of Time and Kingdom Hearts included.
Also, I believe that FFVI, VII and X should be included - they're magnificent RPGs in their own right, and they're generally recognised as the 'best' Final Fantasies.
RottenMilkman
09-27-2004, 02:02 AM
Kingdom Hearts and Vagrant Story are RPG's, but I don't see how you can consider a Zelda game an rpg at all. It's action adventure... you don't gain skills, you don't gain experience, you don't gain levels... your character never changes, it's not an RPG.
Raidenex
09-27-2004, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by Milkman
Kingdom Hearts and Vagrant Story are RPG's, but I don't see how you can consider a Zelda game an rpg at all. It's action adventure... you don't gain skills, you don't gain experience, you don't gain levels... your character never changes, it's not an RPG.
It pains me to say this, because I don't personally see what all the fuss about Zelda games is about - they're ok, and i'm having fun with Link's Awakening on my GB at the moment, but I'd get bored of them pretty quick.
I find them to be borderline RPG though - the storyline is definately RPG (rescue the princess... again, and again, and again), there is a fully defined fantasy world, you have to buy equipment, etc.
And although your character never really improves on individual stats per se, you do improve over time - you gain more 'HP' by finding pieces of heart, and you gain more Strength by gaining a more powerful weapon.
It's borderline, but I think it's just over. Personally, I think the entire series is overrated, except for the upcoming GameCube one - that looks decent.
RottenMilkman
09-27-2004, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by Raidenex
I find them to be borderline RPG though - the storyline is definately RPG (rescue the princess... again, and again, and again)
Super Mario Bros is RPG then.
, there is a fully defined fantasy world, you have to buy equipment, etc.
Grand Theft Auto is RPG
And although your character never really improves on individual stats per se, you do improve over time - you gain more 'HP' by finding pieces of heart, and you gain more Strength by gaining a more powerful weapon.
Ratchet and Clank, Prince of Persia, Maximo, and lots of other platformers and action adventure games do this also.
Name any game that you know to be a definate RPG, and it will include some sort of stats for your character... Zelda has none of these stats.
I consider an RPG to be a game where combat is based off of stats that you have to build up by defeating enemies and gaining experience.
Raidenex
09-27-2004, 05:05 AM
I concede your point :p
It's not like I would vote for a Zelda game, anyway ;)
Zikan
09-27-2004, 07:08 AM
I might get bashed up for saying this but What about Diablo 2? it is a Rpg if you look at it in that light. hell it is kinda fun. no story though....... buthey you still get to build up your stats by killing enemies!
One more thing..... HOW CAN YOU GUYS FORGET ABOUT FALLOUT!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell that is one kickass game. NEver forget the game that help in the restoration of Rpgs man!
Rapture
09-27-2004, 11:59 AM
I'll add these RPG's, and then include up tp 2 FF's. so we don't have too much. I'll start it within about a day or so.
Marceline
09-27-2004, 12:21 PM
Earthbound, please.
Though it'll probably lose, it's one of my personal favorites.
Valkyrie Profile, Shadow Hearts, and Star Ocean 2 were all also quality stuff.
I know it's been agreed that there won't be FF games, but maybe we could include Tactics? That generally gets excluded from the FF rumbles.
KREAYSHAWN
09-27-2004, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Raidenex
Also, I believe that FFVI, VII and X should be included
I agree on VI and VII, but I always thought X got one of the more lukewarm receptions for an FF. You know, 7/10 rather than 9 or 10, at least in really reputable indie games magazines/sites.
Plus it was a bit crap. :(
RottenMilkman
09-27-2004, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by ud�
I agree on VI and VII, but I always thought X got one of the more lukewarm receptions for an FF. You know, 7/10 rather than 9 or 10, at least in really reputable indie games magazines/sites.
Plus it was a bit crap. :(
Agreed
Raidenex
09-28-2004, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by ud�
Plus it was a bit crap. :(
Well, reviews are just opinions - the reason it got a lukewarm reception was because the storyline was more personal that the others - as well as saving the world, it was about saving one of your own.
The combat system was brilliant, the graphics are still to be surpassed, the story was top notch, and there are tonnes of things to do once the game is over.
I still think FF10 is the best Final Fantasy... and that's during my current addiction to FF11.
Rapture
09-28-2004, 09:48 AM
Geez, they just keep coming, i'll have to populate a list i am busy at the moment though.
KREAYSHAWN
09-28-2004, 11:32 AM
What do you mean just opinions? This whole thing is opinion based. And popular opinion was really a bit "meh" to X - as far as I could see. So whether you like it personally, or not, I really don't think it should be in the rumble. (IX is my favourite, but it didn't get a much better reception than X, and I don't think it should be in there, either).
And why would a good plot be a reason to mark it down? That's silly. Most of the reviewers I am talking about aren't ... you know, the dumb FF7 forum fanatics. Also, graphics aren't so important in the context of RPGs, imo.
Zikan
09-28-2004, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Rapture
I'll add these RPG's, and then include up tp 2 FF's. so we don't have too much. I'll start it within about a day or so.
Hey thanks for the attention dude........:-D
I do agree with ud� that Rpg do not really need good graphics to really win the hearts of the players. A point i keep trying to hammer into my friends but would he listen? NOooooo, he stills keep on playing his beloved fps..... never really broadening his horizons. A bit sad, and he considers himself a dedicated gamer......... i mean he does not even want to try ff7 even whne I offered him the chance! BUt i suppose he is entitled to his opinions....... bit sad though.
RottenMilkman
09-28-2004, 03:04 PM
FFX Graphics have not been surpassed? What? Bullshit.
FFX recieved the most lukewarm response than any other FF game on Playstation... and rightly so... the game was fairly terrible.
Rapture
09-28-2004, 06:55 PM
Morrowind
Baldur's Gate
Wizardry (6)
Xenogears
Tales of Symphonia
Terranigma
Chrono Trigger
Secret of Mana
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Wars: KoToR
Final Fantasy VI
Ragnarok
Skies of Aarcadia Legends
Dark Cloud 2
Final Fantasy VII
Shenmue
Kingdom Hearts
Earthbound (for Ndi)
Vagrant Story
Diablo 2
As you can see, there are 20 here. It's very hard to include ones that everyone wants. There isn't enough for 32, and too many for 16. 20 is a fairly good number. I have included 2 FF's, because any more wouldn't be fair. I'm guessing that everyone has heard about/played most/all of these listed games. Apart from TLoZ and FF, there have been no other objections to RPG's suggested. To my knowledge, not every game here is a full-on RPG, but they all have the element, which is good, and they WERE voted by YOU. Ocarina of Time, is a Real Time Action Adventure, with RPG elements to it, thus it isn't included. Any objections to this list, any that you havent heard of, and any games you don't think deserves to be here, include it in a post. However, I think I have incuded at least one of everyones suggestions. I will prbably be online tomorrow, but I can't bank on it, as today was REALLY busy for me. Hence, I am going to start it now, owing to the stated fact. NB: I may include a mini-review by the game, should I be bored, and it might help, you never know!
Section 2 - RPG's/Related
Battle 17
Morrowind (A game of impressive scope, depth and focus, set in a vivid, self-referential world. Exploration, character configuration, questing and in-game activities, (alchemy, enchanting, pearl-diving, factional conflicts and rewards, etc, are all very fun to do and very well done.)
vs.
Shenmue (Five gorgeous environments. Within each town, you can talk to every human inhabitant, examine every object, knock on every door, and explore every shop - all while time passes, seasons change, and weather intrudes with an amount of graphical splendor bordering on real life)
Originally posted by TCK
+ Terranigma
Rapture
09-28-2004, 07:51 PM
included
RottenMilkman
09-28-2004, 08:09 PM
Morrowind
Excellent game, and one that somebody could play for years.
hb smokey
09-28-2004, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Milkman
Morrowind
Excellent game, and one that somebody could play for years.
Morrowind
Very good game, play how you want to play, many many subquests and much to explore....
I still want a better pc to play it...
Venom
09-28-2004, 11:55 PM
Morrowind
Raidenex
09-28-2004, 11:59 PM
Morrowind. I haven't allowed myself to get into it yet, but the little I played amazed me.
Originally posted by Rapture
included Where the feck is it?
Anyway, can't comment on this fight, since I've never played Morrowind, and haven't played enough of Shenmue.
Mickrulz
09-29-2004, 01:22 AM
Morrowind
Zikan
09-29-2004, 03:27 AM
Got a feeling that this going to be anotjer Knockout round..... hehehe....
Vote goes to Morrowind
Hogan
09-29-2004, 04:20 AM
<b/>Planescape: Torment is what I should be voting for right now but seeing as it unjustly not included I shall have to vote Morrowwind.</B>
Rapture
09-29-2004, 10:39 AM
I can't make everyone happy Hogan. I'm happy to include your game, if other shriners don't mind getting rid of a listed RPG.