Alpott
08-01-2004, 02:06 PM
Read (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/3936597.stm)

And this recent story has really annoyed me, I for one dont feel the need to bludgen my family with a shovel after playing a mildly violent game, and I sure hope you gamers out there dont, but for someone to actually kill someone because a VIRTUAL game thats NOT REAL has it in there...

And the consequences? Manhunt gets taken off all the store shelves because shops are scared that millions of people playing this game are going to go on a killing spree from playing this game, we are not THAT stupid..What do they expect, a scene from 28 days later?

Opinions?

MogKnight
08-01-2004, 02:57 PM
Quite honestly, I'm against the holding games back to stop kids from being influenced from them.....

.... but Manhunt is an exception.

Top Cat
08-01-2004, 06:03 PM
Warren Leblanc, 17, of Braunstone Frith, Leicester....

He shouldn't have been playing the game anyway. :x

This always happens. Someone kills someone, and they happen to like a particular thing... GTA, Manhunt, Marylin Manson, and the thing gets blamed. God, if anyone plays GTA: VC and goes otside, hijacks a car and starts running people over in all honesty they're psychopaths who would've done those things anyway. All they needed was the trigger this game provided.

The whole point of these games is to let people do these things in a simulated environment, because you wouldn't in real life (unless you're mentally retarded).

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mr. Cheese
08-01-2004, 09:52 PM
I agree if sum1 buys a game like manhunt then goes out killen ppl they were goin 2 do it neway..... but seein ppl acttin like they were in 28 days laters would be cool.........untill they noticed u

Marceline
08-01-2004, 10:19 PM
I think it's stupid to just blame video games, or any form of entertainment, for that matter, for the horrible things people do. Obviously, the kid was pretty messed up to begin with.

There's nothing wrong with stores deciding not to carry the game though. Manhunt is extremely. extremely violent- it's not the kind of thing every store wants to be carrying. And it's not as if it's a best seller or anything like that.

Evad D'Aragon
08-01-2004, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Ndi

There's nothing wrong with stores deciding not to carry the game though. Manhunt is extremely. extremely violent- it's not the kind of thing every store wants to be carrying. And it's not as if it's a best seller or anything like that.

That pretty sums it up to me...


Games that are geared towards a specific public because of violence or mature themes shouldn't be found on the shelves of general stores, like, say, Wal-Mart...especially if, like Manhunt, they aren't particularly well-selling.

Those kind of games should only be sold on specialized store, and even at that time they should be verifying if the buyer has the required age.

Now, I am perfectly aware that in this case the kid was probably messed up and that it's nonsense to blame videogames for that but...the fact remains that if he hadn't got said trigger (in other words, was prevented from buying the game) he might have not do it...at least not at this time and maybe then it could have been prevented. With tragedies like that you're never careful enough.

Jewels
08-01-2004, 11:59 PM
This issue with Manhunt being blamed for a murder is ludicrous. They just want to find something to take the blame for the kid�s own mental instability. Before you start deciding to flame me, I haven�t played the game myself, but I do know that a game is simply not solely responsible for murder. There has to have been something else in the boy�s life in order to make him do such a thing.

I can understand why the mother blames the game, and why she wants the game taken off the market.

Right now, all these companies are just taking the games off the shelves cause they don�t want to lose the customers who might disapprove of them because they�re continuing to sell the game. Well that�s what I think.

The game may have been responsible for causing further disruption of the boy�s instability, but it was due to the fact that the boy was already unstable from the start. A game can�t really encourage someone into thinking that a real murder would be fun. Games are there to take you away from reality and have some fun. Yes, its true that murdering people wouldn�t be fun in realilty, but most gamers are mature enough to distinguish between the two.

The game is certified 18, yet the mothers let their underage sons play it? If they wish to blame the game, they should be blaming themselves for letting their children play it in the first place.

pedo mc tax me softly, black person (whom i love)
08-02-2004, 02:48 AM
What, Jewels? You mean taking responsibility for one's actions?

Ludicrous!

MogKnight
08-02-2004, 04:23 AM
*sneaks up behind Odin with a glass shard, stabs him in the eyes and the neck and beats him senseless*

>:D 5 POINTS!

Melchior
08-02-2004, 07:26 AM
If anything those games would prevent murder.

Think about it, violent videogames don't make kids violent, it's the other way around, kids that are f**ked up in the head play bloody f**ked up games. And it's the parents fault for not paying attention to the rating on the game, most adults simply assume that videogame = toy, and it won't include blood, sex, cursing, politics, religion, or anything that would influence a kid.

Rather than little johnny taking an axe and chopping up his "friend" like a bloodthirsty lunitic, the act is postponed because he's to busy doing it virtually, but of course it's not long before he can't hold himself back any longer and little johnny grabs a real axe, lucky for his "friend" who had time to get away while he was playing that videogame.

Xenogears and GTA are two games that made a few people I know realize that videogames are just a large a genre as movies, games aren't just toys, thier for adults too.

Alpott
08-02-2004, 04:55 PM
Dont you think taking the game of shelves is a bit extreme?

Cant they be more carefull on who they sell it too?

Oh and another point, 1 child plays it a kills someone? lets say..560 Million people worldwide are playing it, just for an example, you see how rare someone is going to go out to kill someone after playing the game..

But yeah, nice to hear your opinions

Loki
08-02-2004, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Alpott87
lets say..560 Million people worldwide are playing it, just for an example, you see how rare someone is going to go out to kill someone after playing the game..


Haha... that many people wouldn't play Manhunt if it was free.

Tidus_Leonheart
08-03-2004, 04:12 AM
I never even heard of this crap...
honestly blaming a videogame is the same as blaming Arnold Shwarzenegger (is that it??!?) for Terminator! Or whatever violent movie that there is....honestly...If anyone saw the movie Bowling for columbine from Michael moore there is this particular part that is exactly about this! How the nation tries to blame the games and movies for the violence, which is nonsense...if you play GTA: VC and wants to murder people with your car and whatever you're mental to begin with :)

Jewels
08-04-2004, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by Odin
What, Jewels? You mean taking responsibility for one's actions?

Ludicrous!

"My son just murdered his friend.... I'm gonna blame that videogame! It's obviously that videogame!"


This issue's been recently swamping the news and chat shows over here. Well, at least Amazon still sells.

The Ricky
08-04-2004, 06:28 AM
The kid was fucking nuts to begin with. How about the parents get ivolved with the kid's life, and pay attention to what he does.

Jesus Christ in a Taxi Cab.....

Marceline
08-04-2004, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by Alpott87
Dont you think taking the game of shelves is a bit extreme?

It'd be extreme if say. . .EB decided to take the game off the shelves, but I don't think it's too bizarre for a place like Walmart to decide not to carry it.

Bus Driver
08-05-2004, 01:21 AM
I'm not suprised, movies, music and games have always been there to take the blame for the actions of others. No one ever wants to bear responsiblity in these situations, so they find something to blame.

The game is aimed at mature audiences, obviously the parents should've been more aware of what he was playing. But yeah, anyone who goes and beats someone to death with a claw hammer was most likely crazy to begin with.