name says it all

Well, they are both good, but maybe Cloud? But Squall is good too.

i'd say cloud his spells a much puwefuls than squall's or meaby .............dude you are sick they are both good i'd must say it'll be a tie XD

cloud is the coolest! clouds huges sword is much cooler than squalls gunblade. all squall says is s is ".....whatever....." cloud is my favorite

yeah i beat ff7
and i am playing 8 right now


Cloud is rele cool especially this one




but squall is rele cool too



tough decision...........

squall looks kinda cool in that pic but cloud wins!

i know squall looks rele cool

and his gunblade would be tough for cloud to handle

i mean
if they ever locked swords
squall could just shoot or something

and squall does a ton of damage

with just his sword

but cloud took on sephy and won!

which u cant overlook

yes they are both pretty cool. i wish squall would talk more."....." isnt enough 4 him to say.i think cloud would win bcuz ppl love him more(i think so anyways) and he would have the courage to win! but have u seen omnislash!? thats by far the sweetest
limit break ive ever seen.cloud would win
cloud beat sphy(the sweetest villain ever)so he would win.more confident.

yes i have omnislash and a saw him take out sephy
but i have yet to see the lionheart
have u seen it

nope.that game makes me angry.juntioning sux.

Cloud and Squall both have strong limits, but maybe Cloud would use Omnislash or Squall will use Lionheart. But both limits are strong, and who will win?? It's a hard choice. But Cloud's weapons were stronger than Squall, so Cloud would probably win. uh, i'm just confusing myself!

they both are koo with cloud's attitude and squall's whatever thing they make koo fighters

Cloud would win, unless Squall used his Gunblade from a distance.

Do you mean as a character, or in a fight?

Eh, not that it matters. Either way, I'd go Squall.

i would say squall would win in a fight his sword is lighter plus the lionheart limitbreak is one of the best the sword lionheart was easy to get too

but cloud is cool though

I don't really know... I never played FFVIII :-/ Yes, yes, I've never played it... I've heard its not worth playing... I think Clouds cooler... but in a fight I think from what I've seen Squall would win

by far cloud is cooler than squall but in a battle i'm not sure because they are both great warriors. i think squall might have abit of an advantage due to his garden military training

but cloud has the jenova cells!

Originally posted by heavenscloud01
but cloud has the jenova cells!


true so they equal again?? now me confused

Originally posted by Magus
I don't really know... I never played FFVIII :-/ Yes, yes, I've never played it... I've heard its not worth playing... I think Clouds cooler... but in a fight I think from what I've seen Squall would win

FFVIII isn't for everyone, but it is a good game with a good story.

I would at least give it a try- the worst that could come of it is that you don't like it that much.

cloud

haha those pics are from Kingdom Hearts!! i loved that game!! sephiroth looked really kick ass in that game... and he also kicked my ass when i fought him... lol hardest boss i ever faced in kingdom hearts..

but anyways back on the subject... i definetly think cloud would win.. he's just so awesome... and he looks a hell of a lot cooler! so i go with cloud all the way! i would be cloud over squall anyday

Originally posted by Ndi


FFVIII isn't for everyone, but it is a good game with a good story.

I would at least give it a try- the worst that could come of it is that you don't like it that much.


yeah actually i'm playing ff8 right now started over


Originally posted by enix
haha those pics are from Kingdom Hearts!! i loved that game!! sephiroth looked really kick ass in that game... and he also kicked my ass when i fought him... lol hardest boss i ever faced in kingdom hearts..

but anyways back on the subject... i definetly think cloud would win.. he's just so awesome... and he looks a hell of a lot cooler! so i go with cloud all the way! i would be cloud over squall anyday

yeah cloud is cool. squall looks like a human chocobo

Well, these guys are the best even we can find out if which those two are best.

Originally posted by heavenscloud01
yes they are both pretty cool. i wish squall would talk more."....." isnt enough 4 him to say.i think cloud would win bcuz ppl love him more(i think so anyways) and he would have the courage to win! but have u seen omnislash!? thats by far the sweetest
limit break ive ever seen.cloud would win
cloud beat sphy(the sweetest villain ever)so he would win.more confident.

OH COME ON!! Sora from Kingdom Hearts whiped both of their asses at the same time! He also beat Sephiroth in a friendly one on one dual. Anyway, both Cloud and Squall are whiners. But my favorite part in FFVII was when Tifa went inside Cloud's head, and he had all of those identitys. BAD ASS. Squall did'nt have anything like that. But the Lionheart versus the Omnislash. It would come down to who had more stamina, but Squall could Junction all of the GFs. Squall maybe?

Originally posted by dante's ninth circle


OH COME ON!! Sora from Kingdom Hearts whiped both of their asses at the same time! He also beat Sephiroth in a friendly one on one dual. Anyway, both Cloud and Squall are whiners. But my favorite part in FFVII was when Tifa went inside Cloud's head, and he had all of those identitys. BAD ASS. Squall did'nt have anything like that. But the Lionheart versus the Omnislash. It would come down to who had more stamina, but Squall could Junction all of the GFs. Squall maybe?


sorry to raid on your party but sora isn't in this battle if you want to go make a thread about sora kicking ass. as for this thread it is hard to choose squall and his training at garden and cloud with his strength power

But back to stamina, what is the most effective armor in FF-VII? And should Squall junction auto haste he would get the drop on Cloud. Oh, and is the Ragnarock the most powerful sword in FF-VII?

first of all if i was rooting for squall i would say yes on auto haste and as for armor and sword i don't know i just ran right through the game the only thing i cared about was the materia

Originally posted by dante's ninth circle


OH COME ON!! Sora from Kingdom Hearts whiped both of their asses at the same time! He also beat Sephiroth in a friendly one on one dual. Anyway, both Cloud and Squall are whiners. But my favorite part in FFVII was when Tifa went inside Cloud's head, and he had all of those identitys. BAD ASS. Squall did'nt have anything like that. But the Lionheart versus the Omnislash. It would come down to who had more stamina, but Squall could Junction all of the GFs. Squall maybe?

......Kingdom Hearts sucks.

Anyways, my cloud rocks and has master final attack and phoenix materia so he can never lose!hahahahahahha!unless he runs out of mp... but then i could just put on hp>mp and voila!9999 mp!bwhahahaahhah!

Arg, tough. It would depend on who's Squall and who's cloud we were talking about. But, if it's both of them at the top of their games...Aw, hell. They'd tie. To add to a previous comment, if Squall started using his gunblade at distance, wouldn't Cloud start using magic?

hmmm maybe so it's still a tie? well since i'm a cloud fan cloud would win

I didn't know that he could use his ginblade from a distansce...can he?

yeah in the game he'll use it but very rarely

So does it come down to who has more fans? If so, then it's gonna be Cloud.

I vote for Cloud. Some reason Squall's not that appealing to me...

well looks arn't gonna win and i thought that this was a battle not a popularity contest. but in my opinion cloud would win

Statistacly cloud would win but at limit breaks squall wins clouds Omnislash hits 14-16 times Squall uses Ranzozuken = 6 hits + Lionheart tht is 14-16 hits so about 20 - 22 hits with a 9999 attack versus only about a max of 16 squall will win. Cloud is my Fav FF char and i just Finished FF8 and still not even finished FF7 still Squall shall win because his Limit has more attacks and even then if all of them missed he could just summon eden and unlease a attack up to 99999 on cloud then again there is final attack materia with KOR tht would kill squall so in any battle it would be a Tie because with all of the right prep's there is no winner unless it comes down to just normal attacks then cloud wins in 1 hit Squall cant hit a 9999 in a normal hit

well first i would vote for squall being a ff hero without blonde hair plus the lion heart would win out of best looking swords squall has more gf/summons but cloud has kotr
as for limit breaks squalls one is cool lionheart but clouds is good too


to many factors to deside 1 winner i just say squall sorry cloud lovers

Cloud would win. The gunblade wouldn't be able to handle the buster sword. But abilities alone, Cloud would still win.

the buster sword may be big but looks can be deceiving. but cloud would win

Originally posted by Sean2k10
Statistacly cloud would win but at limit breaks squall wins clouds Omnislash hits 14-16 times Squall uses Ranzozuken = 6 hits + Lionheart tht is 14-16 hits so about 20 - 22 hits with a 9999 attack versus only about a max of 16 squall will win. Cloud is my Fav FF char and i just Finished FF8 and still not even finished FF7 still Squall shall win because his Limit has more attacks and even then if all of them missed he could just summon eden and unlease a attack up to 99999 on cloud then again there is final attack materia with KOR tht would kill squall so in any battle it would be a Tie because with all of the right prep's there is no winner unless it comes down to just normal attacks then cloud wins in 1 hit Squall cant hit a 9999 in a normal hit

Squall's ass would be fried because if he missed all of his shots then he wouldn't have been able to call Eden, but can't Squall just use Devour on Cloud and get it over with! I mean, Omnislash IS badass, but Squall can FRIGGN' EAT YOU!!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dante's ninth circle
[B]

Squall's ass would be fried because if he missed all of his shots then he wouldn't have been able to call Eden, but can't Squall just use Devour on Cloud and get it over with! I mean, Omnislash IS badass, but Squall can FRIGGN' EAT YOU!!!! Plus, Squall would have to use Aura or enter the battle at low health in order to use the Lionheart, and even if he does Renzokuken there is always a chance that he might fuck up and do Rough Divide. But if Squall uses Kamikazie, he would technically win because he killed Cloud.

Yet how tough can these guys be when the both of them can't take on a 13-year-old punk with a friggn' Keyblade!

Originally posted by dante's ninth circle


Squall's ass would be fried because if he missed all of his shots then he wouldn't have been able to call Eden, but can't Squall just use Devour on Cloud and get it over with! I mean, Omnislash IS badass, but Squall can FRIGGN' EAT YOU!!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dante's ninth circle
[B]

Squall's ass would be fried because if he missed all of his shots then he wouldn't have been able to call Eden, but can't Squall just use Devour on Cloud and get it over with! I mean, Omnislash IS badass, but Squall can FRIGGN' EAT YOU!!!! Plus, Squall would have to use Aura or enter the battle at low health in order to use the Lionheart, and even if he does Renzokuken there is always a chance that he might fuck up and do Rough Divide. But if Squall uses Kamikazie, he would technically win because he killed Cloud.

Yet how tough can these guys be when the both of them can't take on a 13-year-old punk with a friggn' Keyblade!

Don't make fun o the KeyBlade just coz it looks like a big Key it is a Good Weapon for a kid to have my Teacher said tht if a Adult gives a kid a key it means they trust em well i Trust Sora to kick ass with tht key so do not make fun o it.

the keyblade was creative and cool but i gotta stick with the regular japanese swords

hey! I wasnt going by looks, by 'not appealing' I just meant he's weaker than Cloud I couldnt think of any other words.

what? anyways i think that cloud would win

Cloud was drunk and had stayed up for 96 hours straight when he lost to Sora! Anyway, I maintain that Cloud would win. Of course, if there was a FF fighting game (like my idea for a SSBM-style FF fighter- check out the thread!) it would be more fun to just fight and determine that way.

that's really cool that would solve this cloud vs. squall thing

Originally posted by Master Nabeshin
Cloud was drunk and had stayed up for 96 hours straight when he lost to Sora! Anyway, I maintain that Cloud would win. Of course, if there was a FF fighting game (like my idea for a SSBM-style FF fighter- check out the thread!) it would be more fun to just fight and determine that way.

I think there is a FF fighter out there called Ergyz, or something like that, for the original Playstation. Time to check e-bay!

Yes there is, I own that game. It's not all FF characters though, only Cloud, Tifa, Seph, and Yuffie. The others you can fight with are from other games.

Squall vs Cloud? hmmm...

I really don't know. I love Cloud, he's really cool, but I'm attracted to people like Squall who don't let you get to know them. I liked Squall in the game. Cloud is probably a better person, but Squall has more of a personality all together. He changes too, which I like. But I guess I have to stand loyal to Cloud.

The fact that Cloud lost to Sora is a bad example. First of all, The main characters always win in their games, i mean Sora beat Sephiroth... Second, Sora had donald, goofy, heal potions, and magic. He couldn't beat Cloud with out any of those. If Cloud had his limit breaks, and materia he would of won easily.

Hmmm i think that cloud holds an sword and squall has a gun blade.
Sqaull had garden military training but
cloud has been in tougher moments and was in the group called SOILDER

Cloud wins:p


Ok prak

Originally posted by Omega sephiroth
cloud has jenova cells and was in the group called SOILDER

Did you actually play the game? If so, there's a glaring instance of stupidity in that sentence, and I don't mean the typo.

LOL!!! I usually hate how prak makes fun of people but that is pretty funny!I'm such a bad person...

Even after your edit, you still have a glaring instance of stupidity in that sentence. And I'm still not talking about the typo.

I wouldn't call it making fun, just being bitter.
Oh, and as for the qu., squall wins.

gaming wise, Cloud wins! Squall is too grumpy :) (puberty, probably!)

Originally posted by SephirothBizzaro
I wouldn't call it making fun, just being bitter.

Yep, I'm just being bitter. Can't you feel the bitterness? I'm getting bitter just from the thought of all the bitterness I'm feeling.

So what am I being bitter about, pray tell?

Lionheart v Omnislash
Lionheart v Ultima Weapon
Lionheart v Strife

3-0 to scarface, no contest

cloud by a longshot!!!

cloud would win end of discusion

Squall would win. Renewal of discussion. :p

dude, Omnislash all the way!!!! Cloud would kick Squall's little ass and slice and dice his gunblade to hell like it was nothing... uh huh, uh huh, uh huh, hey Cloud it's your birthday, we're gonna party like it's your birthday... sorry, got alittle carried away, heh heh...

Originally posted by Sephiroth's Brother
gaming wise, Cloud wins! Squall is too grumpy :) (puberty, probably!)

hehe heh agreed

if cloud's omnislash didn't work than his kick ass magic would. ULTIMA BAHUMUT ZERO, KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND, COMET and a whole shit load of other spells.

...that could be used by any character.
If your gonna use that arguement then we could Junction all 16 GF's to Squall and he'd be invincible.
No frikkin' contest.
Squall wins.

Lionheart hits more times than Omnislash, but I still think Cloud would win in a fight.

squall has gunblade. Cloud has a sword about as big as he is. I need say no more. Cloud every time

Originally posted by hellfire_1234
squall has gunblade. Cloud has a sword about as big as he is. I need say no more. Cloud every time

hehehehehe. oh and since when does lionheart hit more than omnislash?did you actually count!?(just curios)

Originally posted by heavenscloud01


oh and since when does lionheart hit more than omnislash?did you actually count!?(just curios)

well the quote u used was mine. was that question here aimed at me? I never said lionhart hits that many times.I thought omnislash hit more. I thought lionhart hit same number of times as tiduses blits ace thing?

Im a diehard VII fan but, kick some @$$ Squall.

Originally posted by Shinra Turk
Im a diehard VII fan but, kick some @$$ Squall. lol

I actually think Cloud would win... But I love Squall and Cloud!!

Originally posted by squallthelionheart
i would say squall would win in a fight his sword is lighter plus the lionheart limitbreak is one of the best the sword lionheart was easy to get too

but cloud is cool though

yesh definatly!! i agree its hard to choose tjough V.V;; i luv them both they are coolies...

cloud is the coolest! clouds huges sword is much cooler than squalls gunblade. all squall says is s is ".....whatever....." cloud is my favorite
yeah!!!!!!! Go Cloud!!!! =) =)

Squall would kick clouds A$$ anyday

Cloud kicks @$$ with his fat @$$ sword Cloud wins hayhahahhahahhahahah

Wow, this is a good one.
i feel a distinct clashing of loyalties, as i just mentioned to my friend here (silly wench thinks it's a simple question[of course, i mean "wench" with the kindest of connotations =) ])

back to the point, there are some technicalities that must be addressed, and if anyone else covered these, forgive me. first off, we need to know what level these two fella are at when they are fighting, what kinda materia/armor cloud is sporting, how mr squall is junctioned(elementally, status, blah dah blee) If squall happened to have 100 blinds on his status attack, and cloud wasn't equipped to defend against it, this'd be a rough fight for him to win. On the other hand, Cloud seems to carry the title of the Original Badass for newschool RPGers. I haven't completed FF7 yet, so i cannot say who i think would win, but i can say i'd pay to see the fight.

too bad it wasn't tidus vs cloud, i'd love to see that little jock get spanked, hehee.

anyhow, there's my cents.

Senji

cloud will be the victor

yes i have omnislash and a saw him take out sephy
but i have yet to see the lionheart
have u seen it
lionheart is too long and i think omnislash is preferably better.

I like omnislash better.

Anyways, I like Cloud more than Squall. Cloud would win a fight with him, too.

Squall would easily win. He could just use an item to make himself invincible and then clean Cloud's clock. He can also use aura to use his limit break repeatedly, something that Cloud cant do.

in terms of weapons

Lionheart atk 30 atk% ( hit %) 255
Ultima weapon atk 100, atk %110

so Squall is more accurate, but cloud hits harder. = draw

Limit breaks (max stats)

Omnislash 18-22 hits at 9999 ( I have attempted to count but its too fast)
Lion heart 18-22 hits at 9999 ( i believe, havent actually got the weapon or LB yet)

So again a draw (Cloud could build his up before the fight, Squall could cast Aura)

Defenseive / offensive capability

Squall can junction magics to his statistics and defense
Cloud can equip materia and amour and accessories

Cloud wins here, the combination of the Ribbon (total status protection) and materia just give him the edge i think ( especially things like pre-emptive). and item like the power vest give him boosted strenth ( altough he could only have one or the other)

Magic

Squall can cast 100 of whatever spell he has
Cloud has to distribute a maximum of 999 points between the spells he has (including summons)

Squall wins here, as long as his GFs have Hp they can be cast

Support

Squall has a 6 member team
Cloud has a (surviving) 8 member team

Cloud wins this one, (come on he has Vincent as a sharpshooter)

Character stats

I cant remember but i think that, with out junctioning or special items, Clouds stats are higher than Squalls

Overall i think Squal is just a Cloud imitaion ( same attitude at the start, same type of final limit attack) oh and Cloud failed to become a SOLDIER...however in disc 2 ( or was it 3) Cloud says "physically i'm built like a member of SOLDIER", and the doctor ( when clouds in a coma) says that Cloud has had a lot of information put into his brain so my moneys on Cloud but there are alot of things that could affect the outcome of the battle

come on he has Vincent as a sharpshooter

While Vincent might have been a "cool vampire guy with a gun," Irvine was a developed character who actually mad sense.

Anyways, I'm going to close this thread, as:

A) No conclusion will ever be drawn, discussion is all based on personal opinion.

and

B) It's a random "thing vs other thing" thread.